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Subject: Bandwagon's GMD team
Posted by: The Bandwagon
- Donor [479521116] Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 21:56
Welcome Senator Urine, dpr, Blooki, Pica, Winston, Gary Dotson, tothreeball.
I look forward to hearing your gripes and complaints about players, and in return, you get to hear mine. No holds barred here, let it all out ;)
If someone would like to volunteer running team stats through Excel daily, then please, stand up and be heard. If not I'll figure it out...hopefully.
I'll start it off. I went Paul to Kobe today, and held AK-47, and Aldridge for another game hopefully. I skipped Baron and Al Harrington.
I plan to go AK-47/Aldridge to LBJ/and a center on 11/20, and hold Brewer. |
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| 184 | Senator Urine
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 16:02
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It's not a have to move for everyone, but for me it personally is because I need to overcome that 350k gap at current prices. Holding Howard any longer will only make that gap larger. -150 tonight, -50 tomorrow (lemming followup), and -100 the next night would not surprise me at all.
I'll go check my email now.
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| 187 | Gary Dotson
Donor
ID: 571057216
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:57
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Su...I like the marion,howard route personally. Just seems like garnett does not need to do everything anymore while Howard is playing possesed...
My dilemna is i have 20k window to go from blatche -horford today but miss blatches game 2nite if i trade 2nite,
Would like to go into jefferson from howard but hes in gravity and not sure if he will come out...what u guys think?? pull trigger or stand pat??
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| 188 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:58
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Alright, I've self edited myself. I'll summarize that mess.
I came up with four plans. Plans B and C were very efficient points-wise, but could have cost me possibly 800k compared to my other two plans.
Plan A is moving Howard to Kidd today, Kidd to Lebron, Garnett to Howard.
Plan D is moving Garnett to Kidd today, Kidd to Lebron, Howard to Marion, and Marion back to Howard.
Using an estimate of averaging 15-day and season averages:
Plan A - 587 points, 760k
Plan D - 670 points, 680k, but uses one more trade
Net game difference:
A - 4 Garnett
D - 2 Howard, 4 Marion for one more trade
What do you guys think?
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| 189 | The Bandwagon
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:02
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Plan D, and you're getting 83 points for that extra trade.
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| 190 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:14
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Yeah, I'm leaning towards that also. I just always hate trading out of Garnett when I have an option not to. While he hasn't finished with a good total the past two games, he was on pace to get 70+ on the first one. He's still capable of being a monster, so I'm worried that point gap isn't entirely accurate, especially with Marion's ability to throw up the occasional turd.
As of now I'm going to say D, even though I'm not 100% comfortable.
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| 191 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:15
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There's always that nightmare flashback too of trading Garnett for Kidd. It still amazes me how Kidd had 4 games to Garnett's 1 and Garnett still beat him. But I think I have to take the chance on Kidd, the money (not to mention his production so far) is just too big.
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| 192 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 19:16
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Alright, I went with D and moved Garnett to Kidd. I'll be holding Howard for his remaining two games.
That should be it for the trades this week, unless I get out of Daniels tomorrow. Anticipating future moves and not factoring in price swings to be safe, I'd have around 4.6 million for a replacement. This replacement would have to be a guard. It's a shame Ford is back because Calderon looks great. Beno and his poop schedule may be the best option if Daniels has to go.
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| 193 | Winston
Donor
ID: 119543011
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 19:33
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Moved KG to RJ, looking for A.Daniel or L.Williams to SJax tomorrow (I never own him).
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| 194 | The Bandwagon
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 20:25
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I moved Kobe for Kidd. I didn't like the upcoming Kobe to Wade swap.
My plans were Kobe to Wade to Lebron,
and Howard to Sun to Howard.
Now its Kobe to Kidd to Howard
and Howard to Sun to Lebron
Works out exactly the same except I have Kidd for 6 games instead of 2 Kobe, and 4 Wade.
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| 195 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 20:32
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I think it would have been 3 kobe games
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| 196 | The Bandwagon
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 20:50
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Yea you're right. Both plans picked up the same amount of games. Trust me, I checked it several times. Both plans involved rotating 2 slots.
In the end, its whether I wanted Wade or Kidd.
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| 197 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 23:08
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I think I'm going to move Daniels for a needlessly lower-priced Action Jackson tomorrow.
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| 198 | The Bandwagon
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Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 00:14
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I'm looking to do the same move SU. I'm currently about 650K short of getting Howard and Lebron back if I get SJ from Daniels, but I do have to trade Rudy Gay before I get Lebron back.
Another idea is Bogut to Baron (Get Amare from Howard),Daniels to Beno, and hold Beno forever.
This would leave me with 2 trades. What's scary about that is, I have never been able to hold Baron in the past through his hot schedule without him getting injured.
Which one does the team like better?
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| 199 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 00:46
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In the first one, who would you be getting from Howard? In the second will you be getting both Lebron and Howard back also?
If so I'd lean towards the second - Bogut to Baron is a huge upgrade, moreso than Jackson vs. Beno I think. But more importantly it ties up your money in studs, rather than having it in Bogut. While Bogut's schedule is great, you know he's going to drive you nuts, and I'm not sure if after tonight so many people are going to continue to be moving into him.
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| 200 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 00:51
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BTW, thanks for that email, I'm thrilled right now that not only I kept Howard but I'm also going to be able to pick up Jackson again tomorrow.
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| 201 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 09:21
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Captain: Baron has been awesome for me, he should gain some decent cash for the next few days or so, and looking into his matchups coming soon, it's pretty favorable. And as SU points out, it's a huge upgrade over Bogut. If you can fill your center slots without Bogut, then by all means he's wasting a valuable slot and cash.
I'm probably going Daniels > AK, and then Dirk and Kidd will rotate back to LBJ and Howard, it's only a matter of when.
Downside of the plan means I have to hold Przybilla longer.
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| 202 | Winston
Donor
ID: 119543011
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 09:30
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I can move Daniel to SJax as planned (I also have cash for Baron or Nash) but I am not so sure what to do with L.William. I am not very comfortable with guard(upgrade) options under 6M (Grant Hill?). May be I will just hold William from now on. Help from team appreciated.
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| 204 | JMISA
ID: 21056316
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:32
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BLOOKI
i never realized it buti always see u post on this thread and i jus figured out that i been lookin at u at #1 on my league for the last month "Great Wall of Blooki" in sn_1828 auto leauge ... is that your'e team? how many teams you have or is that your only 1. I am the guy behind u this whole time =).
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| 205 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:38
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how many teams you have or is that your only 1
LMAO, he isn't the " the Great Wall of Blooki " for nothing. He's been know to influence price swings all by himself;)
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| 206 | JMISA
ID: 21056316
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:50
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haha really i figure alsmot everyone has like 3-5 teams i started the season 3 days late becasue i was away so i only bought 1 i think next season ill opt for multiple teams as well
btw Dave R is gator daves your team? It's #3 rank for the "late" teams behind me and bandwagon
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| 207 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:59
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Intruder
JMISA:
That ranking which you think is the DL ranking, that cant be right, my DL team has more points than either of you.
I suppose you mean that "basic" ranking in ultimate that you can click on. Have no clue what kind of ranking that is , but its defenitely not the Day Late rankings.
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| 208 | JMISA
ID: 21056316
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 13:18
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im not sure what it is my team was 3 days late so i don't know if they put all the teams that started then into 1 standings but i dont understand what it means to be in that column for basic leagues?
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| 209 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 13:43
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Looking to move Howard and Turkoglu on Tuesday to Amare and Marion. I am currently holding Blatche, who I am considering moving to Beno. I had originally taken Blatche befor Haywood got hurt, planning to hold long term. As a long term hold at similar price, Beno seems to be putting up better numbers. My window is $250K with Beno, $320K if I hold Blatche. Any thoughts about if that window closes by Tuesday. Who is being considered as a Howard replacement.
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| 210 | The Bandwagon
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Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:07
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I want to get Baron really bad, but the Beno/Baron combo vs the SJackson/Bogut combo only nets me 62 points over the next 17 days using season averages, plus uses an extra trade. I can get Beno from Rudy Gay next week, and miss Beno's 1 in 5.
I could then hold Bogut and swap him to Al Jefferson on 12/11. That would give me a center replacement for Kaman when he has to leave on 12/19. Stephen Jackson also gives me another G/F option.
I was all set to get Baron today, but I've got a huge gut feeling that he's fixing to go down with a injury.
Here's something funny. You guys will probably think we're whack's.
My wife has no clue about hoops, so alot of times when I can't make up my mind which way to go, I ask for her gut feeling on players.
So far this season she's been great. She got Moon right, and picked Baron over Kobe back when I was debating which one to pick up 3 weeks ago. Too bad I took Kobe! Anyway, I ask her this question this morning, "Does Baron play through his great schedule"? She answered no, he'll get injured. lol
That sealed the deal for me.
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| 211 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:24
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What does Mrs Bandwagon think of holding Blatche vs Blatche to Beno
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| 212 | Gary D
ID: 33117212
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:41
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re:210,,, Thought i was the only crazy one who did that...thats classic
Im thinkin of gettin marion 2nite from underperforming Dirk, then get jefferson from howard on 4th....This has me holding blatche..
Or
Hold dirk(who i didnt want in first place) then get horford from blatche and marion from howard on 4th.
I think amare is a DNP waiting to happen
Really had been set to go the jefferson route but now this injury scares me....
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| 213 | The Bandwagon
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Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:11
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to3ball, I just ask Mrs. Bandwagon, and she said take Beno. :)
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| 214 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:14
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212 Al Jefferson's injury worries me as well, as he was my original choice to replace Howard. Although looking at Amare going into a 4 in 5 is not without risk as well.
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| 215 | The Bandwagon
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Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:16
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I like option 2 Gary.
Al Jeff is banged up right now, and Dirk isn't going to keep playing like this. I'd take the $ hit on Dirk, and stay away from Al for now.
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| 216 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:28
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Intruder
This is just in: Mrs Bandwagon told Reuters "Selling Dirk today is stupid".
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| 217 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:39
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Mrs. Bandwagon is also one of those "4 out of 5 doctors say"
lol
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| 218 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 15:40
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215 Holding Dirk as well. Right now leaning towards picking up Beno from Blatche.
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| 219 | Blooki
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ID: 449292712
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 18:19
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Quick question: If you have no plans to utilize the freed money for the next two weeks or so, would you go Antonio Daniels => Beno Udrih today?
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| 220 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 18:57
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Both are in a 1 in 5. I think Blatche losses more $$ and Beno has more $$ upside starting on 12/7.
Dunno if that helps, but that's my take.
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| 222 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 13:16
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140 + 207
To clear up the whole "basic league standings in ultimate" I e-mailed TSN and this is what they wrote back:
Dear Manager,
Thank you for your inquiry. The "Basic" Standings should not have been
there in Ultimate as there is no separate tier in the game. We apologize
for the confusion and the page has been removed. Your prize eligibility
status is based on whether you are in a ten team league or greater and
where you live. You can see all of the restrictions in our official
rules:
Oh well i guess theres nothing else to feel special about anymore ;)
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| 223 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 15:42
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213 I'm glad I made the Blatche to Beno move. The $250 price swing was more than I thought it would be. I believe my $$ window for the Orlando => Phoenix moves tomorrow will be fine. Now how about a monster game from Howard against GSW tonight as a going away present.
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| 224 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 17:01
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in the next couple weeks i need to find the most efficient way to turn Ilgauskas, Kobe and Kidd back into lebron and Howard. I was thinking that id go Kobe to wade to lebron and kidd to howard but wade isnt picking it up like i hoped so not sure that is the best option. Now im thinking that i will move kidd to lebron and Z to Howard. not sure who tog et from Kobe but I should have around 8 mill i think so that I can afford my other moves.
rest of my players no have schedule holes coming up so they could all conceivably be held. Considering moving louis williams for udrih if williams does poor tonight. Also kirilenko is gunna be real up and down financially so if he has a bad stretch he will probably me moved. Hopefully moon and the GSW can last their schedules
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| 225 | Pica
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 08:53
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The Harris injury sort of opens a way to finally get rid of Przybilla, last of my original draftee. I am thinking:
Harris > Udrih
Przybilla > Horford
That should leave enough in the bank for the eventual Kidd > Howard and Dirk > LBJ swap next trade week. No trades really planned next trade week, it would be really awesome to hold the GS boys as long as possible.
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| 226 | The Bandwagon
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:38
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | Senator Urine-190 | 2789.5 | 223.5 | 2789.5 | 18 | 62.04 | 1.03 | 61.01 | 0.63 | 1 | | 2 | dpr-93 | 2778.5 | 154.5 | 2778.5 | 4 | 64.33 | 1.68 | 62.65 | 0.58 | 3 | | 3 | Winston-1104 | 2710 | 259.5 | 2710 | 14 | 61.31 | 3.19 | 58.12 | 0.59 | 3 | | 4 | Pica-4490 | 2661.5 | 212.5 | 2661.5 | 29 | 61.52 | 1.40 | 60.12 | 0.62 | 3 | | 5 | The Bandwagon-1022 | 2641 | 234 | 2641 | 51 | 60.81 | 0.92 | 59.89 | 0.54 | 3 | | 6 | Blooki-845 | 2639 | 223.5 | 2639 | 191 | 61.01 | 8.83 | 52.18 | 0.65 | 3 | | 7 | Gary Dotson-5568 | 2626 | 289.5 | 2626 | 168 | 59.61 | 0.53 | 59.08 | 0.73 | 1 | | 8 | tothreeball-502 | 2538 | 216 | 2538 | 316 | 60.15 | 2.36 | 57.79 | 0.39 | 2 |
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| 227 | The Bandwagon
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:07
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Howard to Marion, and Devin to Beno or Calderon is the plans for the moment. I'm having a tough time choosing between Beno and Calderon.
I think Beno could be the longer hold due to his price and production, and I'm willing to over look his 2 game week during Christmas because of his price.
Calderon if he keeps the starting job can outscore Beno by 10 points per game which can add up in a hurry. As someone mentioned in another thread, he could also be the first to de-rail if TJ forces him back to the bench in the next few games.
I have enough $$ to get Howard and Lebron back regardless if I take Beno or Calderon, but the $$ money saved on Beno could help out if Moon or someone needs to be moved in the near future.
Anyone else having the same problem?
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| 228 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:16
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*intruder*
to be up front, i have both calderon and beno, so no vested interest in persuading you one way or another. as a raptor fan, I don't see TJ starting any time soon...clearly the injury is more serious than they were saying to start. In the two games he was back, he looked completely out of sorts and didn't threaten Calderon's minutes at all.
I would be very surprised if TJ is starting anytime this week. I'd say calderon has 5 games at least...maybe more if he keeps up his solid play (ie. blowing out the bobcats without bosh, bargnani and tj).
I understand the thought about keeping money around, but not for Moon. He's been one of the most consistent TSN players this year. A cheapie with nothing under 15 and only a couple games under 20.
I think Beno makes a lot of money, especially tonight and becomes a lot harder to hold over the holidays than you think.
As I said, I have both and think they are both good options.
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| 229 | Dave R
SuperDude
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:35
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* intruder *
I think BW's logic is solid on both fronts regarding Beno and Moon. If Brewer was a hold for alot ( arguably a sell also )a bit ago , there's no reason Beno can't be held also. He has been as productive by and large as Brewer, has a Holiday hiccup schedule wise, but as I stated in my GMD thread there is a lot of red schedule wise that time of year. 25+ points per game at his price is a bargain. And after Christmas his schedule is OK for a couple of weeks.
Moon, on the other hand, will be gone from my roster before Christmas, when I'm not sure. True his production is great for the price, but with $ 1.6 mill in profits, and climbing, at some point it will be time to take the money and run. Although he plays only 2 games less than Beno over his dry stretch, I think he will be a must sell.
Maybe I'll get itchy and trade Beno also, but the game plan is to hold at this point.
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| 230 | qwert
Donor
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:46
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I didn't get the impression he meant he would hold money to upgrade moon on 12/22...and if he did, I think that's far too long to hold onto cash for an upgrade. I meant, that I don't think Moon is a concern performance wise until his schedule dries up.
I agree that Beno's a great option and I hope I can hold, but as we know, there seem to be people that get 8 trades on tuesdays when we get 4 and red schedule almost always means big losses, even when there aren't any good schedules to move to.
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| 231 | The Bandwagon
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:57
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Thanks Qwert
I just noticed that Gay to Calderon fits perfect on 12/9, so Beno for Devin is the choice tonight.
I really don't like missing 5 days of potential gains from Calderon, but it does give me 2 games to see if he is going to continue to start etc etc.
If I don't like what I see in Toronto, I can always hold Rudy Gay. From 12/9 thru Christmas the only trade worth making in players 5 million and below is Calderon. Based on season averages, Calderon only gains me 61 points, and of course $$, so it's not a slam dunk trade.
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| 232 | The Bandwagon
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Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:22
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Change of plans, still going Devin to Beno, but decided to take Boozer over Marion.
I'll still be able to get Lebron from Bogut on 12/11.
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| 233 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 15:04
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Moving Howard/Turkoglu to Amare/Marion. I was 60K short of Boozer instead of Marion, or I may have followed your lead Bandwagon. Phoenix's matchups this week should be TSNP plentiful, so Marion should be OK. Both can transition to Howard and Lebron at some point.
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| 234 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 19:52
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I think I'm taking the money and running with Harris. Moving him to Beno, I think the money is going to be well worth the (potential) loss of a game.
I could go to Calderon instead, but that would limit my Sean Williams escape route. Plus Calderon has already moved 500k, and Ford could screw things up. Wish I could fit him in, but I need to be extra careful with my trades, the week of 12/12 (naturally, the one where I start my 11 day trip across the country) is going to be insane. I can't afford one thing going wrong now.
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| 235 | Gary D
ID: 33117212
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:08
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Amare for me today gentlemen...Hate having Dirk right now but holding till maybe LBJ or howard....
I actually think i will be able to bank trades for once this week! fingers crossed..
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| 236 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 21:50
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Itchy fingers made me pulled the aforementioned trades. And now Harris said he will play (see injury thread) and Horford didn't blow anyone away tonight. Ah well, at least there's some $.
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| 237 | Winston
Donor
ID: 119543011
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 23:14
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With the news Harris plan to play tomorrow, I undo my trade for Harris to Beno. Expected some money lost but I don't have a plan to effectively use the 8M left over if I did the trade.
Plan trade for this week.
Dirk/Amare/Harris -> Howard/LBJ/Tinsley
Hope my window for Harris to Tinsley don't close in the course of the week.
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