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0 Subject: Team Weykool GMD

Posted by: weykool - Leader [41750315] Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 01:24

Welcome aboard to: Guru, Coach Bird, Florian, Kentucky Indidans, Yehosh, Coldwater Coyotes, Kal Zakath.

I think we have a good mix of proven veterans and some up and coming managers ready to rock the GMD standings.

Please send me your E-mail Addy so that I can have it on record.

If someone would like to post the stats who has experience please feel free to volunteer.

Good luck and get your teams into position for Wednesday.
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93Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:24
Given that my team is lagging, and as a day late team, it is supposed to be pushing for financial value, and given that our GMD team is already short 3 LeBrons, I figure I should bail early. If LeBron puts up a monster tomorrow, we are cooked anyway. Might as well load up our bets on the other side.

I'm also carrying a stash of cash ($5m), which makes it silly to continue to carry Kirilenko when a significant upgrade is possible.

So, I'm leaning toward moving LBJ & Kiri to Garnett and Dirk. I could also substitute Marion for either.

In all likelihood, Garnett would turn into Howard on Dec 9, and Marion/Dirk would turn into LeBron on 12/11, assuming that LeBron is superman once again.

I'm having trouble figuring which of Dirk or Marion is the best choice. In the unlikely event that LeBron is not ready to return, Dirk has a slightly better schedule past 12/11. One of his games is @SA, but it doesn't appear that the Spurs have created any significant matchup problems for him.

Even though LeBron might play tomorrow, I'm still concerned that he might not be a full tilt, in which case, there's no compelling reason to hold him through likely losses if he's only going to put up (no better than) normal stud numbers.
94Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:44
I suppose that Dirk and Marion may be the best combo if maximizing value is the primary objective. But when KG fits both price-wise and schedule-wise, it's tough to turn down, especially when he might also be a differentiating pick.
95weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:46
The bad news is Lebron is injured.
The good news the the beat-down that my GMD team has suffered at the hands of not having Lebron is finally over.
I already have Dirk so I should see some decent RV gains from those trading out of Lebron.
Kinda like a blind squirrel story.

Guru:
The numbers on Marion and Dirk are about the same.
Dirk should see more RV and can be held a bit longer.
The longer hold would probably give more flexibility if we see more injuries to highly owned players.
Of course with Marion there can always be those little runs where he puts up monster numbers over a week or two.
96Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:47
*INTRUDER*

Guru,

Might I inquire on your thoughts on the relative pros and cons on Lebron => Kobe => Dwight vs. Lebron => Garnett => Dwight?
97weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:16
Kobe was sent to the NBA Dev league on Wednesday.

Per Rotoworld:

The Lakers sent Coby Karl to the D League on Wednesday.
He'll have a chance to play with the L.A. D-Fenders, unlike with the Lakers.

98Florian
ID: 167272717
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:23
Went Lebron to Kaman as I figured the losses on Lebron will be significant and money is so important this early in the year. If I hear later today that he'll likely play I'll cancel the trade.

That leaves my team as:

Baron
Jackson
Harris
Daniels

Bogut
Granger
Moon
Brewer

Kaman
Bynum

It also leaves me with just over 10 million in cash burning a hole in my pocket. Plan to get back into Howard and Lebron at the end of next week, so I could just sit on the cash until then, but I could lose a lot of points in the meantime. Was going to trade Bynum for Kaman, but with 5 games in the next 7 nights there isn't really a hurry to sell him (though there will be some leaking since he is so highly owned). The only other near term sells are Granger and possibly Daniels (unless there are more injuries which can always happen). I could upgrade either Granger or Daniels to Dirk (or Garnett or Kobe). Or I could sell Daniels for Kidd on Dec. 2. Or I ignore the cash and wait for opportunities when future sells present themselves. Any thoughts?
99Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:31
#97
Good to know, that rules out Kobe as a Lebron replacement then... ;)
100Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:40
Hey weykool,

Do you use AOL Instant Messenger? If so, could you IM me @ Blooki? Thanks.
101Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:40
[96] I prefer Garnett to Kobe, all other things being equal. The choice is 6 KG games vs. 5 Kobe plus an extra Howard, as you'd buy Howard back a little earlier. That might be worth a little extra money, I suppose.

102Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:04
I'll probably go to KG on some teams, and Kobe on others.
103Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:19
Going to Kaman from James

this will let me go Bynum->Al Jefferson next thursday and Howard->Boozer

I still think that for Ultimate, the Howard->Phoenix player move is not great this early in the season, RV still being a factor. Boozer will train hard.
105Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 09:22
Interesting to see that of the 29 LeBrons on the 4 GMD teams, only 3 remain.
106G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 14:23
Intruder

Well, since James missed the morning shoot around, I appear to be one of those 3 fools. Once it is official he is out, to Dirk it is for me with a little less cash in my RV bank but I would do it over again not knowing for sure the outcome.

End
107kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 03:41
Was planning the struggling Daniel Gidson to Antonio McDyess today... Gibson's big game last night plus McDyess still in gravity has me second guessing that one.
Am I the only one in love with McDyess today? 20 games over the next 36 days -- best schedule in the game! Locked in starter averaging 25-30TSNP for less than $3.5M! A chance to score more if Rasheed starts collecting technicals; although weed seems to be calmer this year? Locking in on Antonio could really conserve on cheapie trades if he continues to produce.
108JMISA
ID: 151050262
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 04:17
thinking of goin to mcdyess from blatche today too ... defintly a good lockdown for stability and schedule (liek devin harris was 2-3 weeks ago) jus worried that rasheed's comeback will take away from his recent production any thoughts on that?
109Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 08:37
Post #103

Yehosh -

With Boozer not playing last night, are you still looking to make that move ASAP? I'm thinking of waiting for the 4th and letting Boozer show he is healthy on the 3rd. If he seems to be hampered, then the moves I think will be Howard -> Phoenix player on the 4th/5th, and perhaps a player like Williams back into Howard when the schedule clears up. This also allows a Phoenix player -> Lebron move later on.
111Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 10:05
It appears putting a player on my roster is all that's needed to put his production in a funk.

All you Kirilenko owners can thank me for swapping him into Dirk. (I'd happily return the $370K marginal gain if I could swap Dirk's points for AK47's last night.)

Beware - my next move will probably be from Granger to Horford. Expect Horford to quickly tank.
112weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 10:25
On my other teams the plan was to go AK to Kaman on Thursday.
Fell asleep watching TV and woke up at 11:01.
Lost 240K in the price swing.

Made the move to Kaman on Friday.
The price swing was another 240K but the points swing was 56.0.

If losing were an olympic sport you would be looking at a Gold medal contender.

The question is.... now what do I do with AK on my GMD team?
Leaning towards holding.
The long term schedule is still decent.
"Just when I think I'm out they pull me back in".
113Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 10:44
Kal,

I really dont know yet what to do. All these injuries threw all of my plans out the window.

We have all that cash from the James->Kaman move, so IMO our options are:

1) Upgrade Daniels to Nash on Sunday and Howard->Al Jeff
2) Bynum to Jefferson on Thursday and hoawrd->Nash
3) Upgrade Daniels to Kidd today and Howard-> AlJeff
4) This option is only for my since you already have Baron, but Daniels->Baron. Chances are, as soon as I pick him up I get the DNP, but it actually does make some sense.

If we do upgrade Daniels, we'll see to find an out from Bynum for thursday that isn't over 6M

114kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 16:47
Im holding AK47...schedule is better than "decent." 12 games in the next 22 days!!! and... his production is fine for $6.??TSND. He doesn't cost $10M!

I like the Howard to Al Jefferson for 19 days starting on 12/4. The Phoenix guys look like awefully short term holds to me. Love there productions, Coach Bird with his 5 banked trade might look at short termer...but I'm too trade poor to go there.

Guru, why do you like Horford more than McDyess?


115Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:05
center eliglble
116Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:15
You may have a point, though, as I don't think I'll really need Horford's center eligibility. If I move Granger to McDyess today, I pick up an extra game as well.
119coldwater coyotes
ID: 249103110
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 12:54
I need to move Daniels today...with only 4080 available my options
seem to be McDyess and Barnes. I would prefer Barnes but he is in
a gravity mode and I need FV gains. Any suggestions?
120kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 16:10
I'm on record as liking McDyess
121qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 17:42
I think Calderon will see a lot of gains from Daniels, given similarity in price, schedule and recent performance.

*disclaimer - i have him*
122Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 04:57
Hey guys - sorry missed the last couple days. The hit on Daniels at least didn't hurt too bad.

Am thinking of Daniels -> Boozer, actually (yes, I have 7 million lying around), which would then let me move Howard to just about anyone with the other trade tomorrow.

The other option is going Daniels->Horford to get my second center, and then Howard -> either Stoudamire or Boozer.

Of course, the above is all dependent on my finding out that Boozer is indeed healthy, otherwise, Daniels can become Stoudamire and Howard could become anyone.

Bynum would then move on Wed or Thur, with either Horford or Stoudamire taking over the center position.
123weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 08:42
Kal:

Boozer is NOT a center.
125Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 15:45
weykool -

I know - I have Kaman and Bynum at C. When I move Bynum I either have to have a center available or move him for one.

If I go Stoudamire right away, that gives me flexibility for the move from Bynum, otherwise, I have to move Bynum for a center.
126kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 19:12
What am I missing about all the love for the Phoenix guys? Other than the 4 in 5 there schedule is piss poor. And why is Deron Williams getting no love? The Utah schedule is terrific and he is healthy vs Boozer who is not.
I don't think I can afford Deron but even if I could I'm not sure he's breaking out of gravity!

By the way... I feel like that old eighties commercial; "I've fallen but I cann't get up." How can I like my roster but still have sucked so bad this GMD period?
127Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 19:23
Lebron and Dwight will be occupying two stud spots by the end of next week. That's why there's love for the Phoenix guys. They've got the densest schedule in the interim.

If you have good triangle options to deal w/ the Lebron/Dwight transitions, then more power to you. However, many of us will be resorting to the classic Player A => Player B => Player A transition to have Player A at all times other than when he is losing TSND.
128kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 19:38
Loving Howard and want to get there on 12/10... Phoenix is off the ninth and plays the 10th! Phoenix does have it's 4 in 5 but I'm just thinking I'd rather have the two trades rather than a 4 in six and become trade starved. And an Injured Lebron is hardly a "must have" on 12/11? 12/14 if he is healthy is the date I'm targeting... but what do I know? I'm bringing up the rear in both points this period and I'm near the bottom in RV!
129Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 22:34
I take it nobody is taking Boozer?

I was thinking Howard->Phoenix->Boozer (11th)

That gains 2 games

I can move Dirk next week back to Howard, he is really underperforming.

The only downside is I'll have to move Baron to James on the 13th, a little earlier than I'd like to sell Baron.

What do you guys think?
130Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:56
Yehosh -

I wound up going Daniels -> Boozer (40+ TSNPs tonight if I am adding right).

My move for tomorrow is going to be Howard -> probably Stoudamire, which lets me then either move Bynum for Horford next week, meaning that Stoudamire can go either back into Howard at a later date or into LeBron when the time comes.

If I don't go Horford, then Stoudamire will be my second center for a while. I might just go Howard -> Horford, though, freeing me up to do whatever I want with Bynum.
131qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:02
I think your calculations for Boozer are a little modest...more like 60+
132Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:18
qwert -

Where did all those stats come from for him? Were he and AK47 beasts in the last couple minutes or something?
133qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:34
he was having a huge game all along from what I saw...45+ going into the fourth I think

134Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:07
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

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Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

LSWP5

WWR

FV

Cash

RV

FVC

Trades

1 Kal Zakath-4430 2705 290.5 2705 314 63.72 0.82 62.90 0.66 1
2 Coach Bird-1379 2662.5 275.5 2662.5 65 60.69 0.82 59.87 0.53 5
3 Yehosh-2949 2632.5 261.5 2632.5 439 63.72 0.32 63.40 0.55 1
4 Florian-6066 2595 193.5 2595 616 62.87 2.43 60.44 0.51 0
5 Weykool-4361 2508.5 248.5 2508.5 991 62.06 4.58 57.48 0.64 2
6 coldwater coyotes-3635 2451 186.5 2451 550 56.22 0.78 55.44 0.52 0
7 Guru-250 2420 154.5 2420 1134 61.02 2.15 58.87 0.40 1
8 kentucky indians-2450 2407.5 181 2407.5 166 59.06 0.45 58.61 0.55 2



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135Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:49
I finally outlasted my Howard-free problem. I plan to have him by Friday.

No trades that have to be made today (since I don't have Howard), but several guys bear close scrutiny - particularly Devin Harris. Moving Harris to Calderon is under consideration, even though Dallas plays both Wed-Thu while Calderon plays on Wed only. The dollars will favor Calderon, and if Harris is going to miss any time, that trade could/should be done as early as today. Of course, we probably won't know the Harris status until game time (when it's too late).

My two big trades this coming week are Kobe=>Howard on Thursday, and Dirk=>LBJ at the end of the week, assuming LeBron is back in action. Even if I move Harris=>Calderon, I'll have two more trades to work with.

I thought of Udrih, but don't have a logical way to get into him (i.e., no Louis Williams).
136weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 10:13
Made the move of Howard to Boozer today.
Have one trade left and thought about Dirk to Nash.
However I also have Louis.
Should I move to Udrih instead?
137Yehosh
      Donor
      ID: 181082023
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:08
weykool,

bear in mind that Nash is playing through an elbow problem.

If Marvin continues to stink, I'm thinking of moving Marvin Williams to Udrih on friday. I'll give him a couple more games, but I need to see a 25+ performance or else its Beno time.

I'm going Howard->Amare just because I don't want to have to trade Bynum for a center on thursday.By the time I sell Amare, Howard should be back on my team
138Kal Zakath
      ID: 269581213
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 11:52
I'm thinking about options for Howard:

A) Move him for Amare, then move Bynum for anyone up to about $7 million at any position.

B) Move him for Horford, then move Bynum for Josh Smith tomorrow.

C) Move him for Josh Smith, then move Bynum for Horford tomorrow.

I am kind of leaning toward moving him for Stoudamire. It's a temporary move due to not great schedule means that I have no compunction about trading back into Howard after the 4 in 5. That it is so short a hold is also a reason against it, though, and that is why it keeps falling down when I get ready to do it.

Josh Smith and Horford would be longer holds, which leave me with the questions on who I go back into Howard from. I am thinking that if I don't go big on either one (Howard or Bynum) it would let me go Marvin Williams -> Howard later in the week (perhaps Sunday).

The question then becomes which couple to pick up.

I would need about 5 million to make that move of Williams to Howard, so, the question is how to get there.

Howard -> Horford gives me 6.2 overall (5.4 + 0.8 in the bank), so I would be able to move Bynum for someone around 5.5-6 million tomorrow. Am seriously considering Calderon for the move. (I would move Horford to C, and then move Williams to Forward, setting up the easy acquisition of Howard from him later).

Thoughts?
139JMISA
      ID: 51115937
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:18
Intruder

Don't u mean to move bynum in 2 days and not tommorrow since hs starts B2B tonight

and C is definetly better then B jus based on season averages. Josh Smith > Horford

140Kal Zakath
      ID: 269581213
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 16:04
JMISA -

Nope, mean tomorrow.

He's going to bleed a lot on that last day (everyone getting their trades tonight and the huge hole in the schedule coming up. He has a game tonight, and none of the people who I am looking at do.

Calderon has a game tomorrow, though, so I won't be missing any games by making that move the one day early and it might be worth 300k in gains vs. losses. As far as the other moves are concerned I need to evaluate how much ownership in Bynum might be left after tonight (I expect more of a selloff tonight, but think he should still be super-heavily owned after tonight) to determine whether I need to move him a day early for one of the others.

Right now I seem to be leaning toward Amare, though, for tonight, then getting Calderon from Bynum tomorrow, missing the Horford move (even though I love it) unless I get him from someone else (like maybe even his teammate, Williams).
141weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 16:07
I think I would favor the move to Amare as well.
Not all that sold on Horford as a long term hold.
When I go cheap I want someone who can be held for a longer term.
142Kal Zakath
      ID: 269581213
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 16:07
PS -

Welcome to the team - you aren't an intruder anymore, are you?
143Yehosh
      ID: 2910291321
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:19
JMISA, welcome and good luck

I need advice regarding Marvin Williams, here are a few options I've come up with.

1) Marvin->Bene on Thursday to free up Cash and upgrade Bynum->Al Jefferson

2) Marvin->Granger (11th) and Bynum-> someone around 5M

I know I lose a game of Marvin with option 1, but it lets me pick up Jefferson who has a great long term schedule

My other 2 moves for next week will be Amare->Boozer (11th) and Dirk->Howard (9th)
144Kal Zakath
      ID: 269581213
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:35
I think I'm caving and going Howard -> Stoudamire and then Bynum -> Calderon tomorrow.

This should give me solid cash in the bank, and a solid lineup.

The move will then be Stoudamire -> Howard on the 9th (neither has a game, and the Stoudamire sell off and the Howard buy-in probably will be starting there).
145JMISA
      ID: 51115937
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:01
oh wow forgot the waiver session was today .... thanks ..i see we are in last place hopefully i can help boost the team scores for this period

yehosh i think al jefferson has some sort of nagging injury so might want to doublethink picking him up ... especially for a long term hold ( i had him under radar too and went with rasheed instead when i heard of the injury)

i like option 2 better and if you need a center for bynum it seems as if horford would be your best choice
146JMISA
      ID: 51115937
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:06
biggest desicion to make right now is which PHO stud to get NASH-MARION-AMARE

Pros:

Nash - highest season and 15 day avg of the three

Marion - most consistent history wise and statistics wise solid 20-10 man and gets alot of minutes (he also seems to do well tsnp wise regardless of how well or bad the rest of the team do)

Amare - Recently doing better then Marion and is also a Center spot (although i don't need a C) and is currently the cheapest of the 3

Cons:

Nash - too expensive nets u no money from Howard + i suspect he will be the lowest gainer of the 3

Amare - gets less minutes then Marion and can always put up a flaky game or 2

I still have a lil bit time to make the descion and thoughts on your parts?
147Yehosh
      ID: 2910291321
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 19:30
I like amare just because of the C spot, that way I can do whatever I want with Bynum. By the time Amare will be sold, Howard will be back on my team. Since Kaman isn't going anywhere until the 23rd, it makes things simpler.

Regading Bynum, I think I may follow in Kal's footsteps and take Calderon. Seens like a solid idea. Other option is Bynum to Beno Udrih.
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