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0 Subject: Soulman's '07-'08 GMD Team (TP1)

Posted by: Soulman
- Donor [016105313] Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 08:08

Welcome Dave R, deejay, Usual Suspects, turnabouts, Gescom, Dilo, BD. I'm very happy with how the draft went and I'm excited to have all of you on board.

There's no doubt in my mind that this is going to be a very competitive GMD season, so let's all do our best to be able to hoist the trophy in April. But to me even more important than everybody doing their individual best is that we work together as a team! And - first and foremost - that we have loads and loads of fun! :)

So please do freely post all your plans, thoughts, analyses, predictions, frustrations, questions, whatever. If last GMD season is any indication, then an active and completely open discussion not only helped the overall team performance but also each individual team's performance a lot. So post away, guys!!! And don't let yourself be inhibited if English isn't your mother tongue. Heck, we're a GMD team and not an English linguistics class! :)))

Season starts Wednesday, so let's all have our teams rolling by then. Let's go guys!
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222deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 09:23
Marbury expected to play bd...
223bd
      ID: 31281917
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:34
Hopefully Marbury will not just play, but put up a great game. He never escaped gravity and this will probably be his last game on my squad as he'll probably become Kiri tomorrow.

I'm worried about a big Dirk sell off today and am looking at either Baron or Marion.
I also worry about a sell off for Harris as well. The best alternative I see for him is S. Jackson and I already have him. So right now he looks like a reluctant hold for me. Any suggestions? I could go to Kiri from him today instead of to him from Marbury tomorrow, then I would look for a marbury replacement tomorrow.

Dirk --> either Baron or Marion.
Marbury --> Kirilenko
(to get Kiri from either Harris or Marbury I would need to go Baron instead of Marion)

Does anyone have Kurt Thomas (sea) on their radar? Center eligible ... recent games of 25, 34 and 33 at 2.46Mil. he has 18, 14 and 13 rebounds in those games. I'm looking for a Bynum replacement and am not convinced Holford is the answer.
224deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:36
Im considering Harris to Kirilenko today, but thats not certain at all, might just hold Harris.
Hes still (one of) the best option(s) in his range.
225qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:07
*intruder*

bd...have you looked at jeff foster?
226Usual Suspects
      ID: 99503022
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:10
Hey team,

I have access to the internet for about a half hour. Thinking of going Antonio Daniels-Calderon today. With AD recent subpar production, I am scared he will lose a lot of money. I also think that Calderon could keep the starting job for a while, putting up around 30 a game in 30 or so minutes. I don't want to buy into him if he's going right back to the bench shortly. Thoughts on this trade?
227bd
      ID: 31281917
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:28
US - with 3 days off Daniels will lose a lot and Calderon has been very good lately and it sounds like he's earned a lot more playing time. Sounds good.

I went Dirk to Baron. I almost went Harris to Hill this AM but realized if I do this and Marbury to Kirilenko tomorrow, it would leave me tradeless and Howard needs to go Tuesday.
228Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:32
Deejay, why would you trade Harris? You have 2 trades and one must be earmarked for Howard in a couple days.

I don't hold much hope that Louis will not become a " sell " very soon. Harris seems to be the least of your problems.

I have to deal with Daniels today. To fit in with future plans of getting LBJ/Howard/ Boozer, he needs to be moved to a comparably priced G. Calderon fits now with an 80K cushion. LBJ/Howard losses + Marion gains hopefully would make it all work. But very close, and I'm not sure I want to risk it. Plus I'm not suer how much longer Claderon holds the starting gig with Ford back.

The other options would be to buy into Beno's 1-5, figuring after that he should start seeing significant gains, or Wright.

Or scrap getting Boozer and refigure everything.
229deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:40
Agreed Dave, gonna hold my horses :)
230Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 13:22
US - the three days off alone would make Daniels the top loser today. Pair that with his recent subpar production and I think he is a must sell. I like Calderon despite Ford so I think Daniels>Calderon is a very good move today.
231deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 04:41
KG was my worst player last night.
That surely never happened to me before.
And hes not making me any money either.
Tempted to get Kirilenko from him today.
Feel free to talk me out of it.
232turnabouts
      ID: 461061517
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 07:00
220

Back on track!

231

Go for it!

@all:

What do you think will Howard loose today?
Is there any love for Dalembert?
234deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 07:23
232

No love from me for Dalembert, been there.
235Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 07:36
turnabouts, hadn't really considered Sammy either.

As far as Dwight's losses today, it would normally be hard to imagine anyone who has held this far, selling today, and admittedly I was surprised by his +30K last night ( I guess there are those who get more trades than I do ). I suppose his, for him, subpar performance last night didn't help and I would expect a huge game from him tonight vs. GSW, especially since I moved him Saturday for Kidd.

Other than possibly Boozer or Kiri, I don't really see a Howard exodus today, although those salivating for one of the Jazz may go that route.
236Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 09:34
#231
Do it deejay, KG has done absolutely nothing that would warrant holding him through that spotty schedule.

#232
Can't imagine Howard losing all that much today. Celtics, Hornets and any Washington leftovers should dominate the losers list tonight. Regarding Sammy, I see why you consider him but somehow I don't have a good feeling about him.
237deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 09:56
Thanks guys.
its a go then unless Boozer plays, then it might be him instead. Need to think that over, which one I like the most. Prolly that will be Kirilenko anyway, puts 8mil in the bank tho, which I have no immediate plans for.
Tomorrow Howard prolly becomes Amare.
Since I need a C.
Other name I was looking at is Sheed. That would put 13mil on the bank. :)
238bd
      ID: 01081412
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 12:01
Marbury to Kirilenko today for me.
Howard to a center tomorrow, probably Amare.
239Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 13:54
#194
Skip, GMD is definitely a blast and I highly recommend joining next year. Thanks for your wishes and good luck to you also, I see in the Gurupie standings you're kicking some serious butt even after your four year absence! :)
241Dilo
      Donor
      ID: 30912294
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 05:01
Well, is it once more time to take the money and run?
The top loser today is certainly Howard, but we have 7 out of 8 Harris owners. I'm thinking about taking the million and going on to a)Calderon.
Other options are b) holding,
c) Grant Hill
d) McDyess
e) Horford

Personally, I like Calderon best, because of the schedule (holdable till X-Mas), but the again there's Ford lurking to get his share of minutes.
What will you do?
242deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 05:22
With all these things happening while I was asleep, I might skip Phoenix today.
I have only one trade, which will be used on Dwight.
Louis/Harris will be taken care of at refresh.

Looking at Sheed today. Would put 13mil away...
Louis might become Calderon tomorrow and if Harris sits then I will need to get back to the drawing board.

Dilo: Personally like Calderon/Hill the best i think.
243Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 05:23
Yeah, Harris situation is a bit worrying.
If we have definite news today he's ok and will play Wednesday, I'm inclined to hold.
In all other cases, I think I'm dumping him.
Now for replacement options in same price range, that's another story.

- Calderon: Top option on paper, producing like nuts with TJ sidelined, holdable till Xmas. The thing is when TJ comes back full speed, which can be any day, I expect Jose to get back to his season average of 28 or so, causing disapointment among masses and early sell-off. While I think 28 would still be ok with this schedule, the $$$ downside potential worries me.

- Hill: Too short schedule for my taste, with exit dates of 12/11 and 12/13 being on light trading days meaning heavy losses.

- McDyess: Certainly a good option. He will not get 2 fouls in the first 6 minutes every night like his last 2 games. Very good schedule but ... I have him already so not an option for me.

- Hortford: Very consistent but short schedule with exit date potentially coming as soon as 12/12

So I'm leaning towards Jose as well if no good news from Harris today.

244Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 07:17
If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

The following columns are sartible and reverse sartible.
Click on the column header once for the default sort order.
Click a second time for the reverse sort order.

Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

LSWP5

WWR

FV

Cash

RV

FVC

Trades

1 deejay-168 2709.5 226 2709.5 87 62.85 8.15 54.70 0.68 1
2 turnabouts-1495 2696.5 184 2696.5 15 62.27 0.48 61.79 0.54 3
3 Dave R-4326 2678.5 122 2678.5 653 63.56 5.28 58.28 0.55 1
4 Usual Suspects-1857 2652.5 232 2652.5 10 60.55 0.10 60.45 0.33 2
5 Soulman-786 2593 233 2593 145 61.96 4.24 57.72 0.47 4
6 BD-1544 2580 243.5 2580 259 57.09 2.82 54.27 0.52 1
7 Dilo-1633 2578.5 122.5 2578.5 70 63.34 0.39 62.95 0.30 2
8 Gescom-1851 2526.5 154.5 2526.5 171 63.06 0.21 62.85 0.46 1



Head To Head

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COMMON TO BOTH TEAMS
245Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 08:55
Blah, a day of reckoning. Some expected ( Howard ) , some not ( Louis, Devin) . Why are the laws of TSN, such that widely owned players always seem to get hurt, or suck on a Monday, the day before supposedly a light trading day, or a Tuesday when trades refresh?

-Howard- We still have 5. My early exodus to Kidd turned out OK, a loss of 7 points, I believe, but a little extra coin. But not as much as I thought. Better than some early moves. Howard to a Sun will no doubt be popular with a return for Howard's game on 12/10. For those needing a C going with Amare, and short on trades, budget carefully as getting stuck holding Amare could be costly. It might be wiser to find an alterantive option.

-Louis- We have 3. Last nights stinker doesn't bode well, especially with Beno looming. Beno's schedule is good for a couple weeks, and quite frankly, for his price, if he keeps performing, he possibly can be held beyond Christmas. There is an ugly sea of red there, but it's also around the holidays where there are a lot of red schedules. At some point the cheapie shuffle has to end.

-Devin- We have 7. Great, another day to day player. Up around $1 mill. Didn't need this to happen now, I was hoping he could last until the end of the week. His last game was crappy as well. At this point I intend to sell him, unless something definite comes out today. And that might not be enough to stop a sell off. Calderon will be a likely replacement for many. I'm concerned that Ford is looming, although last nights DNP doesn't seem to indicate he is ready for prime time.

Any other options jumping out at anyone?
246deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:06
I have only one trade and all three of course.
I need to see what im gonna do.
And yes I agree Dave skipping Phoenix is defenitely a plan if low on trades. As do I.


247turnabouts
      ID: 461061517
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:30
245

Another louis williams replacement is telfair. And another Devin Harris replacemet is Monta Ellis.

I need more center alternatives than Stoudemire and Al Jefferson. Al Horford looks good. 9 games in 16 days, 7 at home where he plays better. Brad Miller looking good to... but is he the old Brad Miller? And Sheed must play more minutes....

Other Options?
248deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 09:36
That sums it about up turnabouts.
249deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 13:58
Am I crazy to consider holding Dwight?

Two days heavy bleeding, but then the only way is up again, with as matchup, the running/no D Pacers. I can see people picking dwight on thursday, no doubt.
And Harris/Louis have no more upside whatsoever.

Instead I would do one out of Louis/Harris to Marion, and tomorrow the other one to Calderon prolly.
Marion would then become Lebron on 12/11.

I dont really like any construction I came up with so far.
Plus I am not wild ... at all, about the other C options, ie Sheed/Horford who could have to go on 12 and 13 december possibly again.

Only Howard to Amare, I dont dislike, but thats the most risky way(as in uses most trades with only one security trade aside the following week)

Id give a kidney for one or 2 trades right now.
250Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:08
That's not an awful idea DJ. At least with Howard you will want him back, baring anything unforseen. Can't say the same necessarily about Harris and Louis.
251Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:17
deejay, it's about swallowing 2 days of 200k+ losses and missing the points of his replacement of course. Doesn't sound completely crazy but comes at a heavy cost for the very least.
252deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:20
Yes that was my thinking indeed Dave.
Any other construction costs me 1 or 2 trades more and has me picking up dwight on thursday anyway, if I want to keep my way to Lebron open that is.
253Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:21
Well, he's gonna swallow losses from whoever, so pick your poison.
254deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:25
gescom,

Louis/Harris will also be swallowing losses, with the difference I dont want them back.
255Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:30
Agreed. Just highlighted what keeping Howard means.
256deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 14:54
I know Gescom, it defenitely has a downside, but so does keeping both Lou/Devin.
As Dave said pick your poison.
257bd
      ID: 01081412
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:22
Good luck in the next TP guys -- I'm going to keep checking in. My RV hurt and my Marbury pick-up really backfired.
I went Howard to Marion today. It leaves me tradeless until tonight.
Next week I have Bynum that has to go for a Center and will have to keep an eye on the Devin Harris situation. Make sure Dr. D watches the Dallas Pre-game show to keep you informed on Devin. Other than those two I don't see anyone else that must go.
Good Luck guys.
258Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:22
deejay, a kidney for a trade or two sounds like a good deal, and I'd gladly help you with any of my four trades. Only I then would have too few trades to deal with all my own sells today while having a third kidney. Doesn't really make sense either... ;)
259Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:24
On a more serious note, the blessing of havin 4 trades on such a day also is a curse. Too many options available. Howard must be sold and I'm very much leaning towards dropping Harris and Louis also. While doing so I could also try to upgrade Diop (although that is optional, he isn't a must sell). Meaning I could do everything from 1-4 trades. These are the possible moves:

A) Howard > Kidd/Marion/Josh/Redd/Boozer/Deron/Kirilenko
B) Harris > Calderon/Ellis
C) Louis > Udrih/Telfair
D) Diop > Horford/Rasheed/Stoud/Bogut/AlJeff/Biedrins

I know this is a vast range of options which is why I need a team vote: Please choose whehter you would do A/B/C/D and for each trade what your preferred target would be. Right now I'm leaning towards doing all 4 with

A) Howard>Marion
B) Harris>Calderon
C) Louis>Udrih
D) Diop>??? (Any of the above listed Cs, but completely undecided here...)

Sorry for the long post, your vote would be appreciated!
260Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:35
Agree on A,B,C

As far as a Center, don't like Sheed, Bogut, and Amare is short term. So Jefferson or Biedrins.
261deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:37
I like your choices Soulman, im jealous now and will go sit under a rock :)

Still undecided myself... tho im leaning towards the risky road, that looks like this:
today Howard to Amare
tomorrow either Louis or Harris to Calderon
next day the remaining one of those 2 back to Howard. Unless Harris plays, then its defenitely Lou to Calderon and Harris to Howard on friday.

To continue Soulman, D depends on how lucky you feel I guess, if money is no issue, and neither are trades, then I would say Amare.
But maybe you find Marion/Amare too much, then Boozer/Amare looks a nice alternative.
262turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:49
259

It's difficult to say because i don't know which players do you want in one week. With Howard, LeBron, Boozer, Tinsley etc. around the corner you probably want to save trades and money.

A) Howard - Boozer (so you have him already and you must not find difficult ways to get him)
B) + C) Harris/ Louis - I am myself undecided with the 4 guards you mentioned; I tend to pick Udrih - he is a starter for sure and i can bank money
D) I don't like Diop and some centers are a good upgrade. But don't go Bogut (ask Dilo) and Biedrins (ask Don Nelson before).
263turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:05
My plan is crazy so please tell me that i have to do it in another way.

Today

Harris - Udrih
Howard - Stoudemire

next week

Kidd - D. Howard
Nash - Tinsley
Stoudemire - Boozer
McDyess - LeBron

That leaves me with one trade on the last day of next week but i have a team which i like a lot. What do you think?
264Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:13
turnabouts, your plan isn't crazy at all. In fact I think it's great! Do it exactly as mapped out.
265Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:18
Soulman

A) Really depends who are your ins back into Lebron and Howard. If Marion is you way back to Lebron or Howard on 12/11, agree he's the way to go.

B) and C) Agree

D) Didn't even realized we were having a Diop owner ;-) He has to go IMO. 16 tsnp for 4m is not enough. Replacement depends: Till when do you theoritically need to ride this C ?
- For a one week hold, Stoud is perfect but has to go on 12/11.
- For a two week hold and beyond, Jefferson or Hortford would have my preference. Don't quite understand the love for Sheed and Biedrins is really frustrating to own as you never know what to expect with Nellie's ever changing rotations. That leaves Bogut. Yeeahh ! Bogut ! For a cheaper one week hold option, he can do the trick with his 5-in-7 but don't lock further. This is coming from an ABBOF member (Anonymous Bogut and Biedrins Owner Foundation).





266deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:20
I surrender.
Howard to Amare for me today.
267turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:26
266

I will do the same. I think your plan mentioned in 261 is a good one.

264

Thanks. Hope it pans out. Let's hope LeBron will play next week.
268deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:29
thanks turnabouts, exactly what ill be doing.
269Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:40
263
AWESOME
270Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:40
Thanks for all your feedback guys, that was very helpful for me. I will go Howard/Harris/Louis to Marion/Calderon/Udrih as suggested, and upgrade Diop to Amare. My in to Howard would then be either Marion, Amare or Dirk on 12/9. The other two could then turn into LBJ, Booz, AlJeff, TinMan, AK47 etc. on 12/11.

By already earmarking all but one trade for an upcoming week, that's far more aggressive than what usually my style of play is, but sometimes you've got to try to make a push. Let's hope this doesn't come to haunt me. And if you think it will, please feel free to talk me out of it within the next 15 minutes. ;)
271turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:20
So with the news that Devin Harris will play tomorrow i think i keep him and eat the money losses.
272deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:22
oh that is wonderful news
273Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:23
Yeah, I'm contemplating the same.
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