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0 Subject: Bandwagon's GMD team (TP2)

Posted by: The Bandwagon
- Sustainer [479521116] Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 12:16

500 point lead after round 1, nice! Maybe it would have been better if your fearless leader had picked up Baron when everyone else did :(

I went the conservative route yesterday and took Boozer over the Suns 5 in 7. Hopefully I saved a valuable trade in doing so, and I can always pick up 2 games from that trade later in the season.
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112Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 18:16
Well.....that's a good question. I guess it would be BAD for me if I want to make up ground! lol

And yes, that's the only team that could afford that roster. I really like how that team comes together.
113SU in Fresno
      ID: 5211511218
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:03
Well, the player I really want is Rudy Gay, but because of the Ellis injury and everything that snowballed down from that Kidd "migraine", I think I have to settle for Dorell Wright. He started off shaky, but I think Riley believes in him. Last year he had Riley's support and was playing great, but then Rothstein took over and benched him for Kapono. Now that Penny has been waved and Wade is back to himself, I think Dorell should be good to go. With cheapies at this point I like going for guys who can be explosive, even if at other times they can stink. He's one of the few players in the league capable of putting up a 5x5.

If Ellis is officially out tonight (and if no one is at this computer), I'll lock in Bynum tonight.

After tomorrow's big swaps, I'll have only one trade and the heavily owned Baron, Jackson, Udrih, and Brewer to deal with. I really feel Baron and Jackson can be holds until January - they'll see some hits at times, but the schedule is so good and they produce so well that after one or two nights, they all of a sudden look like the best options. Can't sell every player that's going to see a money hit I guess. I guess I'll have to take things as they come with the other two, unfortunately I won't have enough money to move either to Gay.
114SU in Fresno
      ID: 481143137
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:58
Blooki, I just sold Kaman and Moon for Wade and Wright, so hopefully you won't have to do anything. If it's announced for some reason that someone's out and you can't get in touch with me, you can go ahead and undo the moves and make the decision. Call me if anything stupid happens.

One trade left, 980k in the bank:

Baron, Wade, Tinsley, Udrih
Boozer, Jackson, Wright, Brewer
Howard, Bynum

Mid-week maybe I'll go tradeless and dump Udrih somehow. Ugh. Everything stemming from that Kidd situation just completely sunk my team.

Should I lose my mind and go tradeless today and move Jackson to Gay? Probably not...
115Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 09:05
Like the rest of everybody I am torn with my team. Kaman is the guy that need to go the most so Kaman > Wade seems like a no brainer to me. But the rest becomes difficult.

I think out of them AK becomes the most holdable giving his decent performance last night, good sked behind him and Okur injury.

Moon is the most alarming of the bunch. 22 tsnp from last night isn't great, but isn't horrible either. He did just enough to keep us on the fence. But the important I take from his last game is his minutes. He only played 3 less minutes than Bosh and Humphries don't have a career game every night.

Baron will see a lot of selling pressure as it's many people's way into Kobe/LBJ/Wade.

I'm thinking about Jax/Baron/Kaman > Wade/Kobe/Gay and left with 2 trades but that means holding guys like AK, Brewer, Moon and Udrih.

Out of the 3 cheapies, the danger level probably is Moon, Udrih, and Brewer.

117Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 10:11
The permutations are endless it's driving me insane. I don't recall such a difficult decision with so much consequences in the last two seasons. Basically I've narrowed the choices down to 3:

a. Kaman/Baron/Jax > Kobe/Wade/Gay
b. Kaman/Jax/Moon > Wade/Gay/Wright
c. Kaman/Moon > Wade/Gay

Any comments would be helpful. It's driving me nuts.
118The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 10:37
The money move is B. The smart move is probably C. No need to trade the awesome man of steele Baron Davis.

Jax will get sold today and the 18th, if you can stomach that, he's a hold.
119tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 12:21
I've moved Marion/Kaman/Moon => Lebron/Bynum/Dorell. Already have Wade, so I think I'm good for the week.
120dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:07
ok i am moving Kaman/moon to wade/gay/bynum.

Yesterday the third guy i was going to move was going to be kirilenko but now I am leading towards jackson. I feel kirilenko should be able to Jackson and is less risk to lose money. However he would leave me with 1 mill less to deal with udrih/brewer should they have to go. Luckily I will also have 3 trades left.

So sell kirilenko or jackson?
121Gary D @ work
      ID: 44650614
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:33
Dpr...Id sell jackson....Any team thoughts on kobe or lebron?? can go either way....
122dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:38
so since pryzbilla looks more attractive (apparently Aldridge abscence is helping) now I can go to him instead of Bynum which frees up enough to get wade and Lebron but also couldnt afford gay so would need a forward less than 2.5 where I dont see anyone attractive.
123tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 14:39
As I look at it, I could replace Bynum/Dorell with Pryz/Gay. Any preferences?
124Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 22:57
I went for B, as Captain puts it, the money move. Then after Wright's suspected injury. I held of Jax > Gay, maybe going Wright > Gay tomorrow. I'm gonna take my shots with Jax.

This really blows.
125The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 01:28
Sorry team, I had a bad day at the office.

I went Kaman/SJax/Moon to Kobe/Bynum/Telfair
126Gary Dotson
      Donor
      ID: 571057216
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 01:36
I went the lebron route....also bynum and gay..Looks like aldridge is going to play on monday. would check on that,,,and POR is a very short term hold....Hope no one bought wright tonite..
127Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 08:15
Sorry... Wright victim here.
128SU in Vegas
      ID: 341146147
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 09:26
Did Rothstein coach for Riley last night? Ugh. I feel like giving up.

On the bright side, I'm up a whopping $4 after two hours of poker. It's time to go lose 50.
130The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 11:00
Rrrr, Pat Riley!! We have 3 Wright owners, and two of the owners down to one trade.

I was worried about Wright back in post 104 because of Riley's love/hate relationship with Wright. I didn't want to voice my opinion too much because I've been dead wrong on Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson this year.

On the bright side, Riley could play Wright 40 mins tonight. That's how Riley seems to work this season. I wouldn't worry about Wright too much until he plays another game or two.

Maybe treat Wright like Soulman is with Shawne Williams, take what you can get, and ignore that slot until you build up some trades.

I like the way my team is set-up, so hopefully I can start carrying my weight on this team, and give us a boost during this bad stretch.

Hang in there SU, this is just a bump in the road for you. Ye shall overcome.... ;)
131tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 11:42
I have Wright, not concerned with the game to game fluctuation for now. Seeing that he just escaped gravity, ownership is low and that many of his owners picked him up yesterday, I don't see him as a major decision this week.
132Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 12:25
I read the game recaps on both Miami local papers and not a single mention of Wright. Don't know if that's good news or not.
133Gary Dotson
      Donor
      ID: 571057216
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 01:18
BD...Think Kobe strained his groin in game last nite. He finished the game but took they him out for defensive purposes at end,they said he couldnt really move lateraly...Id check into...
134SU in Flagstaff
      ID: 45119150
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 08:39
Well it looks like Jackson's already lost a good chunk, so he's definitely a "hold forever" candidate now. Last night's pricemovers were absolutely absurd.

Since Udrih plays today, no moves for me. This may be the last time I have internet access for a few days, so Blooki, tomorrow could you go Udrih to Outlaw for me? It seems to make the most sense out of possible moves. That will leave me tradeless for the week unfortunately, but I think I have to do it to keep moving forward. I'll call you from the road tomorrow. If any stupid news comes out today, could you call me and leave a message? I may not be getting service the whole day because I'm going to the Grand Canyon.

Wright's a hold I think, as someone said in an earlier post in some thread yesterday, he's cheap, he broke gravity, he's a GF, the schedule is great, and he's only had one atrocious game. I'll take what I can get from him, he's going for 80 tonight.
136The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 12:04
I've purposely avoided Baron, Wade, and Tinsley all season because they are prone to injuries. I took Kidd from Kobe a week and half ago to avoid getting Wade for his 4 in 5. Kidd DNP's, and Wade averages about 50 per game during the 4in5.

Now I take Kobe instead of Wade, and it now looks as if Kobe could sit at anytime. The guys I have avoided have probably averaged a combined 45 TSNP's per game, and missed ZERO games during the stretches I purposely avoided them.

I thought I was all set up for a run with the surplus of trades, but now I may have to use the trades to deal with injuries.

Another funny story. Mrs Bandwagon can't stand Kidd or Kobe due to the domestic problems with Kidd, and Kobe's rape case from past years. Everytime time I mention trading for one of them, she always says "You know I don't like him".

If only I'd listen to her 100% of the time!
137Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 12:21
INTRUDER

If you don't listen to the oracle then don't complain :)

Which option has Mrs Bandwagon preference ?

1: Moon-Maxiell, hold Udrih

2: Moon-Humphries, hold Udrih

3: Moon-Outlaw and Udrih-Telfair
138dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 13:37
im impressed u can talk to ure wife about fantasy sports

ok so when I move udrih (have the trades) I dont have the money to upgrade really so does anyone see an option better than maxiell? kinda like telfair but doesnt fit well schedule wise. also getting a forward allows me to pick up udrih from brewer in a week which for now is the plan. if i get a guard then all my spots will be full. so maxiell?
139Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 13:43
Is Brewer even going to make the week to triangle back into Udrih?

I'm currently scrambling to see who I can replace Brewer with as early as tomorrow.

17.5, 14.5, 18.5, 9, 23 in his last 5 tells me the end is nearer than we think.
140dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 13:59
yea he definitely should be a sell candidate but for some reason others are seeing more larger price drops than him. Guess i was hoping that with the others who seem to need to go first and the lack of alternatives he could be held. Would hate to have to move Udrih and brewer with no cash in the bank.
141The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 17:14
Gescom, Mrs Bandwagon said she liked Outlaw, and that will probably be the best choice because I think I'm going to avoid him.
143tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 11:10
One trade left, comtemplating selling Beno, although up to a few days ago I was a steadfast holder. My RV is low relative to the group, and Beno => Telfair/Outlaw would be a solid RV move. We have 6 Beno's on the squad, what are the thoughts. Bandwagon, what does Mrs. BW think of Telfair vs Outlaw.
144dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 13:33
ok so not enouygh money for outlaw and i slept to late to get maxiell. wat do i do with udrih? with 3 trades I figure I dont need to be holding. Brewers game alst night also increases the likelyhood of being able to triangle back. Is selling AK and getting Outlaw and xx a good idea?
145dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 13:45
if i go to a gaurd like telfair then my gaurds are locked up and i have no idea where I will go from brewer but maybe thats ok.
146The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 14:14
tothreeball, Mrs. Bandwagon said Telfair.

My plans were Beno to Calderon, but my window closed last night. I really don't want Outlaw, but I guess I'll do it for a $$ move and hopefully he continues to play well. I can really see Outlaw as a player I'll be looking to replace next week.

If I knew Beno would just take a 300K hit, i'd hold.
147The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 14:30
Bye the way tothreeball, I didn't tell Mrs. Bandwagon my feelings on Outlaw. She just goes with her first instincts when I rattle off player names. :)

I also have Kobe, Rrrr. So much for avoiding the injury prone player strategy!
148tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 14:36
I suspect over the next week it will be more than $300K, or I'd probably hold as well. Was leaning towards Outlaw, but still undecided.
149The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 15:57
What to do? I have the trades but I'm not comfortable with Outlaw. Am I crazy to hold Beno with 4 trades in my pocket? Or am I over evaluating the situation?

What about Darko? He got in foul trouble last night, so that explains his bad performance. Before his hand injury, he was a solid 25 TSNP's per game and could come in handy when Bynum has to go. Gasol is out for atleast a week. He could be held until 1/15. Thoughts?
150tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 16:34
Bandwagon, Darko hasn't had many games over 20 TSNP since return from injury, and appears to still be in gravity. I like Telfair or Outlaw better. I'm still undecided, although Mrs. BW's choice would save me $750K to put to use elsewhere next week, you never know when it could come in handy.
151tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 18:21
I hate to cross the Mrs., but Telfairs next 5 matchups aren't overly inviting. Wade (Williams), Baron, Tinsley, Chris Paul, and Baron again. Leaning towards Outlaw, even at the higher price.
152The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 18:43
lol, I guess I'm going with Outlaw also, but I really want Darko. If I could talk Blooki into taking Darko, we would get him out of gravity. That's one of the reason's I drafted Blooki ;)
153tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 18:49
Outlaw it is, better make my trades and get some work done around here or I'll be facing the wrath of Mrs 3ball.
154The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 19:20
I bet you guys think I'm nuts for considering Darko, it's just a hunch I have. Anyway, I went the popular route due to peer pressure and took Outlaw. I just hope he continue's his hot streak for another 3 weeks.
155Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 21:18
Sorry Team, my team's just been in a serious funk since the big trade day. Wright is a disaster and selecting Deron over Boozer was not very smart as well. With my RV and ranking going south I'm going with the plan of Udrih > Telfair and Wright > Gay. Fairly obvious moves in my opinion.
157The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 10:02
I have a new found respect for Kobe. People have mixed feelings about him, but like him or not, the man loves to play the game. Alot of players would have taken a game or two off with the same injury.
158The Bandwagon@work
      ID: 151118518
      Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 21:52
Wow, good thing I stayed away from Darko. He's too slow for G-State so Memphis is keeping him on the pine.

What was I thinking?
160dpr
      ID: 219281916
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 11:09
alright looking ahead there aren't many good option to buy when selling wade. Davis fits real well tho and since his schedule is weak for a bit and he is gunna lose money I think a triangle makes sense. People agree?

so who to move Baron to? No one today stands out because only LA and CHI have longterm schedules and Im not risking Hinrich or any1 on chicago and Kobe is to expensive.

Any preferences among the rest? Going to a forward reopens up the brewer to udrih movewhich brewer will now for sure make it to (if not longer?)

I could also sell Kiri has he has been very aggravating. That would leave me with 0 trades bt none planned for next week other than Brewer and maybe Boozer.

If I move Baron today I would likely give me Aljeff which also gives me another center although I dont rate this that highly because both Dalembert and Miller look good out of Bynum. Another alternative may be to hold for one more game and go to a Denver player but this could mean big loses in te meantime for not many more points. Opinions?
161dpr
      ID: 219281916
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 11:16
looking at sortable stats Camby projects 60 (plus if baron beats Aljeff) points better than Aljeff from 12/20 to 1/7 the date to sell camby. Aljeff would likely go a day earlier but since both players would likely be used to transition into Howard for his 1/8 game i would miss may be some gains. Woever Aljeff is where the money is so wat do u guys think? will Camby even escape gravity because if thats a risk then Aljeff is the solution for sure
162dpr
      ID: 219281916
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 11:22
ok going for the triple post. AI may look better than Camby from a points perspective as he has been better lately and is less of an injury risk. However he would force me to move Howard into a center instead of likely nash or marion at the start of the 1 in 5. Tho then I probably go to Camby then Kobe and then those Pho players which is obviously more trades but gains good games for the trades. If i have the trades I like this rotation more.
163The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:29
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

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Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

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Trades

1 dpr-93 5679.5 38 2704 3 69.60 1.70 67.90 0.23 5
2 Senator Urine-190 5580.5 38 2591 49 66.65 0.25 66.40 -0.09 4
3 Winston-1104 5540.5 38 2627 19 66.32 0.03 66.29 0.10 6
4 tothreeball-502 5520 38 2719.5 118 64.27 0.37 63.90 0.19 4
5 The Bandwagon-1022 5510.5 71 2625.5 35 66.33 1.23 65.10 0.23 7
6 Blooki-845 5461.5 38 2594.5 152 66.23 0.20 66.03 -0.08 5
7 Pica-4490 5396 38 2565 107 65.58 0.08 65.50 -0.14 5
8 Gary Dotson-5568 5356.5 50.5 2541 210 63.88 1.88 62.00 -0.05 4



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164The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 09:51
DPR, sorry I couldn't respond to you yesterday. I've been pulling 12 hour shifts for another supervisor off and on this month. All I have time to do is work and sleep lately.

I see you took Jefferson.

165tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 10:44
Wow, 4 new trades, and no need to use any of them. Congrats to team Soulman on its TP2 win, although we still hold a decent overall lead.

Gary and I are the only 2 Lebron holders. His past few games haven't been up to his pre injury production, and I'm trying to decide when to redeploy his $11.81 value. Will likely hold until after the Christmas games and then downgrade Lebron and upgrade a cheapie. Any other thoughts on Lebron.
166Gary D @ work
      ID: 44650614
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 11:08
I sucked this TP...Need to rite the ship.. Agree that LBJ hasnt been worth it. I think my biggest regret is not getting boozer. Not even sure where to go from here..Will take a look today as im slow at work...Nice TP fellas....I Suck....
167dpr
      ID: 219281916
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 11:27
yea I wnt with jefferson figured there was too much money to be made with that route especially if the Denver guys stay in gravity. Also with Howard I will likely get one of the from Howard for the 4 in 5 at the end of the schedule and the schedule wasnt that great up till then
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