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Subject: December 13 - December 20 Trade Thread
Posted by: Qwerty123
- Sustainer [349431211] Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 11:31
Last night was a chance to evaluate a couple guys who will shape trade plans for this week. Did LeBron show enough to warrant a roster spot? Did Moon show too little to stay? There's practically nothing Kaman could do to stay, but he'll factor in as well. |
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| 26 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 28991818
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 23:55
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I understand some leaking from SJax, he's at least been a bit up and down (though mostly up), but parting with Baron and Kaman as soon as tomorrow seems like madness to me. I somewhat understand it for those who have Howard and Kaman, and can't get to Bynum but through Kaman (I have all three). But Kaman is still going to outpoint every center other than Howard over the next 10 days.
As for Baron, he plays the same number of games as LeBron over the next 8 days, costs a million dollars less, isn't hurt or coming off an injury (knock wood) and is rolling: 47.5 through 3 quarters tonight.
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| 27 | Mrballaholic
ID: 1311121022
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:01
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Baron is going to be sold because he is the only out for people for Wade.
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| 28 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:05
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SJax poor game tonight has just sealed his fate. Anyody who was on the fence just hopped over to the sell side.
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| 29 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 28991818
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:06
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Okay, so somebody forecast the losses of the following players of me tomorrow night and (at least roughly) through the weekend: Baron, Kaman, SJax and Moon. Obviously, not everyone can trade each of these guys, and Moon's schedule remains good.
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| 30 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 28991818
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:11
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You are probably right about that, jedman, and I can live with it. If I have to make 3 trades, I'm leaning Marion, Kaman, Jackson>>>LeBron, Wade and Telfair. I gather that a lot of people are high on Dorrell Wright, but I like the way Telfair is getting his tsnps (high assists and steals). Good call by those who bought tonight.
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| 31 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:12
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Kaman -180
Jackson -160
Moon and Baron -120
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| 32 | wongyjongy
ID: 141035113
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:13
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i decided to keep sjackson, bdavis, udrih, brewer, and jaric.
decided to go: moon, kaman, ellis -> lebron, bynum, and blatche.
sjackson underperformed today, but my plan is to keep him at least until end of this year. i think he will deliver. well, baron davis, i dont think there's a reason to sell davis other than to free up money to go lebron. udrih, he needs to go come this saturday. i dunno, i might change my mind and sell udrih before freeze tomorrow.
moon, i can keep him for another week, but i'm afraid he's going to lose too much money. plus he's supposedly injured. and i should have traded ellis... only if i had time to check the yahoo boxscore! yes,i'm getting blatche even though he has 1 in 5 coming up. i don't have money to go anyone else...... and he's good for hte money...
anyway, i don't think i know what i'm doing so feedback appreciated....
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| 33 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:16
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Moon's not injured...he played all game and had a solid output
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| 34 | wongyjongy
ID: 141035113
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:17
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btw, here's my team after the trade:
Davis, B
Wade, D
Jackson, S
Udrih, B
James, L
Blatche, A
Jaric, M
Brewer, R
Bynum, A
Howard, D
Also I have a lot of trades left: 7.
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| 35 | wongyjongy
ID: 141035113
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:19
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33 I know he played today, but wasn't he a game-time decision going in?
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| 36 | wongyjongy
ID: 141035113
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:21
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If you would like to chat about rhia, I am on google chat as "wongyjongy@gmail.com"
thanks
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| 37 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:50
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Who does everyone think is the big gainer tomorrow and over the next week or so, Wade or Kobe?
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| 38 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 28991818
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:53
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Funny you should mention that, Dave R. I think Kobe is a forgotten man in all of this. I think he will see some buys, but far fewer than either Wade or LeBron.
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| 39 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 01:08
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Well, after pulling my best Senator Urine impression and running a whole lot of different scenarios, I might be the only dummy who will have no Wade,Kobe, or Lebron. My best projected team keeps Kaman and dumps SJax,Moon, and McDyess for Gay,Bynum, and D. Wright. The Moon>Wright is just mostly for the money to offset the inevitable Kaman losses that will come. I can get Bynum/Gay/Wade from Kaman/SJax/Calderon. That leaves me with 150K in cash and holding McDyess and Moon. The projected points are about 100 less than the above team going out to 12/23. That's a lot of days and there is probably a chance Wade's average will be more than the last 15 days I used. I just hate having only 150K in cash for when I want to do something with Moon and McDyess. Gotta sleep on it, but I need to make a decision early tomorrow because I may be gone before the first game starts.
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| 40 | Mac Daddy
ID: 24115245
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 06:11
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Who goes down more over the next week or so -- Moon or Stephen Jackson?
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| 41 | turnabouts
ID: 461061517
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 06:22
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I think Moon because
a) he have to go next week anyway and
b) he is more owned than S-Jax and
c) S-Jax will probably gain money back beginning 12/22
A problem can be yesterdays bad game from S-Jax but i tend to hold him and trade Moon today.
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| 42 | SU in Fresno
ID: 481143137
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:49
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Holding Action Jackson. That schedule is just too good and I'm short on trades. Even if I had them, nothing really makes sense. Going with a team of:
Baron, Wade, Tinsley, Udrih
Boozer, Jackson, Wright, Brewer
Howard, Bynum
One trade left, maybe I'll go tradeless and move Udrih mid-week. Meh.
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| 43 | Bluntkillers
ID: 3411141311
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 12:29
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dude Bynum is bad news, he will have good games until Sunday when Kwame Brown comes back I guarantee it. Phil Jackson is on Kwame's nuts because of his "size and defensive prowess" so he will definintely cut into his minutes...good luck with him...I will hold Kaman until tuesday.
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| 44 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:13
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SU #42 - I will have the exact same roster, except for Rudy Gay in place of Wright.
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| 45 | Qwerty123
Sustainer
ID: 349431211
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:27
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Not to throw another wrench in things, but is anyone considering Przybilla instead of Bynum? The extra money might come in handy.
I'm thinking about Kaman and Moon to Przybilla and Wade. Prz has been in the 30's since Aldridge went out with Plantar Fascitis, which can linger a long time (kept Nocioni out most of 2nd half last year. It also avoids the Kwame uncertainty and the need to sell Bynum right after Christmas. I'm undecided myself, but it's more food for thought.
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| 46 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:28
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You have a point Qwerty.
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| 47 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:58
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#45
To be honest, Przybilla seems to be a hold for a max of four games, not more. That's not nearly enough with the current trade frenzy going on. IMHO, Portland's schedule nullifies any potentially good production their players could have. And as experienced earlier this season, Przybilla's production is far from safe. So I think he absolutely is not viable option.
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| 48 | Adam
ID: 124532213
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 14:03
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wade and bynum seem like the biggest money makers for sure.
after lebron's last game and his injury i don't think he is going to make a lot of money and he is only a keeper for 7 days.
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| 49 | Mac Daddy
ID: 24115245
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 19:07
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Kaman and Moon to Wade and Louis Williams. Save all my guys with good schedules and I can wait out the Sixers bad schedule and hold him through the new year.Haveing Pryzbilla means I don't have to get a center from Kaman.
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| 50 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 19:50
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I am maybe the only guy in TSN holding Kaman and not getting Wade. I sliced and diced my team 10 diffeent ways and I'm going to try and maximize points and mitigate dollar losses as much as I can while still holding Kaman.
Moon/McDyess/Jackson>D. Wright/Bynum/Gay.
Leave me 3 trades and 1040 in cash for any future moves. Leaves me as a team
Tinsley,Baron,Brewer,Calderon
Howard,Boozer,Gay,Wright
Kaman,Bynum
That team gives me the best projected points and dumps some of the big losers tonight. I am counting on Kaman to continue to produce stud-like numbers and Tinsley as well. Probably wishful thinking, but I don't want to have Wade, hold some other losers and only have 120K in cash.
Should be an interesting week. Usually when I differentiate this much, I screw myself. Species and I are going to check our RV numbers over the next week and see how much more he makes than me as he is taking the aggressive approach down to one trade and little cash.
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| 51 | Headless Gunners
ID: 19282419
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 20:00
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Jedman
Not the only one holding Kaman x5
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| 52 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 20:04
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HG, I hope you are a lucky man in life:-)
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| 53 | Adam
ID: 124532213
Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 13:57
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selling moon today for humphrey because that will free up cash and I may be able to keep hump for a long time if he produces solidly.
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| 54 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 14:01
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Big if in my opinion. I worry Bargnani's return will send him back into the sub-20 TSNP/g region.
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| 55 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 08:38
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craig smith or Maxiell?
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| 56 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 08:59
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outlaw
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| 57 | wongyjongy
ID: 141035113
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 15:51
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udrih -> telfair x3
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| 58 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 16:58
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Anyone looking at Darko from Beno? I know he hasn't been as good pre-injury, but Pau is out atleast a week, and Darko could be held to 1/15. I really feel he is a legit 25 TSNP's per game with Pau in the line-up and would help out when Bynum has to go after Christmas.
I really want someone that I don't have to worry about selling next week because of high ownership etc etc.
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| 59 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:03
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I looked at my Financial report on my team and I have lost major cash on three of my biggest TSNP getters. Baron -210 Jax -360 Kaman -480
Now who on CHI is worth having?
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| 60 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:11
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Prolly Hinrich CJ, but not for me.
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| 61 | jedman
ID: 59012312
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 14:14
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Baron>Kobe for me today unless I hear something negative about Kobe's groin.
Thank you Baron, you have been a stud.
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| 62 | wqrtyt
ID: 4211441816
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:51
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Don't Baron and Kobe have basically the same schedule?
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| 63 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:53
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5 Kobe vs 3 Baron is not the same I think.
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| 64 | Bluntkillers
ID: 141131817
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:10
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cant get myself to trade Baron for some reason, maybe because I am a warriors fan, so I went Deron --> Hinrich
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| 65 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:37
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dejay... 5 Kobe vs 3 Baron assumes you can trade spots in your roster every 8 days!!!
The SECOND eight days it will 6 Baron vs 2 Kobe!!
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| 66 | jedman
ID: 59012312
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:50
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Or back to Baron from another spot, like Kaman if you have the cash.
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| 67 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 04:53
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yes of course, i had kobe already btw.
Kobe goes nice into Paul , someone told me :)
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| 68 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:13
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Beno Udrih => Nazr Mohammed
Somebody talk me out of it and suggest alternatives.
Only $1.89mil to spend on a replacement at any position.
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| 69 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:33
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Louis Williams if he plays.
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| 70 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:44
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Too bad he's not a starter and I won't know the answer to that 'if' until it's too late.
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| 71 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:45
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BTW deejay, I hear you use AIM. I'm guessing you're blocking me because I never see you online. Would you mind adding me? Screen name: Blooki
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| 72 | Bond, James Bond
Sustainer
ID: 04352469
Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 15:51
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I reckon that Tinsley is a must sell now. Thigh injuries are problemsome for any player, let alone one that needs his legs as much as Tinsley does. I suspect he'll drop major $$$ tonight.
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| 73 | Bond, James Bond
Sustainer
ID: 04352469
Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 15:54
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68....Blooki....Nazr looked good last night. I think that's one of the few times I've ever said that with a straight face. ;)
His price is sweet and his newly coveted starting spot in Charlotte should lend many to pick him up soon---especially with their nice schedule coming up.
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| 74 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 10:19
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Bynum/Kaman recap:
Since Dec 13
Bynum: 184 TSNP. +$910K
Kaman: 138.5 TSNP, -$840K
Admittedly, Kaman plays the next 2 nights, while Bynum plays only once, so the point gap could disappear. But if you followed the crowd with this one, you can't be disappointed.
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| 75 | cj
Leader
ID: 499271021
Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 10:36
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Ya and I did not follow. Still hanging on and probably wish after that stat you posted I would love to do it all over.
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