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0 Subject: Soulman's '07-'08 GMD Team (TP4)

Posted by: Dave R
- SuperDude [3010361110] Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 07:44

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149deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 14:33
I feel holding Lou is just moving the problem to next week, then there is indeed Baron/Dwight, Lou would make 3.
Plus Dalembert to who is still very unclear to me. Adding Lou at least gives me the option to throw in a G.
Lou's minutes are going down too the last 3 games, that is not a good indication.

It will be either hold Lou like you say. or get a longer hold instead of Miller.

I really appreciate your help btw.

150deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 14:38
I was wrong I meant to say:
If I do get Miller today,and hold Lou then it are 4 trades next week, thats what I meant with moving the problem.
151turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 14:54
deejay

I don't know if this will help you, but the next three opponents of Philadelphia are SA, Hou and Bos. All three on the road. With so many blowouts in sight Lou will probably play a lot of garbage time.
152deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 15:09
good point.
Been looking at Dalembert --> mid range F(6mil).
But no luck.
Everyone of them brings a problem.
153Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 20:01
deejay, kinda like Carter and Boone too. I think they will be on many rosters soon.
Miller is a too short term hold IMO

Soulman, I like Duncan too.

With the -140 last night which also surprised me, I think Beno is dead tomorrow. I don't know what could save him now apart a Paul-like explosion today. Will likely move him to Carter tomorrow.

Then I can't wait to get rid of McDyess. Looking one week back, that was a mistake to hold through the 3 day hole. Should have hold Hinrich a few more days instead. Well, he will become Thomas or Boone on Monday.



154deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 20:16
Yep, but getting them both doesnt seems to make sense for my team, however I turn it.
155deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 21:14
Ive had it with thinking and writing plans on little papers, wasted a forest in the meantime.
Gonna do Sammy to Joe Smith today.
Decided there is no rush into Boone/RJef and their 2in7. Plus RJef kinda locks me out of Bynum anyway.
Brad/Salmons is indeed too short and the rest of the sub 6mil club, well, I dont want any of them.
Gonna hold Lou.
Beno to ACarter tomorrow.(locked)

Thanks for the all the help.

156Philsphan
      ID: 2579209
      Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 21:29
Gescom, I feel the same way about Beno/Maxiell. Definietly going Beno=>Carter tonight, but I will probably shed Maxiell after tomorrow's game. He seems to be doing fairly well tonight so I'll give him one final chance.

Then I'll probably get Boone or AJohnson. I like Johnson for his long-term hold and it frees me up some cash for potential moves, especially around that magic 1/20 date. But I don't think I have the flex to get him, unfortunately.
157Dilo
      Donor
      ID: 30912294
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 05:37
So, i made up my mind about my team. Unfortunately because I have to get rid of 5 players in the next 7 days and have to find a reasonable way into Kaman and Bynum, i'll have to keep udrih till the 19th (then to bynum). Tomorrow i'll go Mcdyess->Carter.
Then on Wed Butler -> Kidd, Tue Howard/Turk to Duncan or Nash, Kaman. Sun Udrih -> Bynum. That leaves me with one emergency trade on sunday and a Roster of:
M.Williams
Kidd
A.Carter
Nash or Duncan
Marion
Gay
Richardson
Stoudemire
Kaman
Bynum

No trades planned for the then upcoming tradeweek, which leaves me with 9 trades in the week when almost everybody has to be changed.
An other plan included buying calderon from udrih today and then calderon -> bynum, but in hindsight of the week that begins on 30th i dont want to start that week with 8 trades (no injuries included) and have to get rid of 6 guys at least in that week.
Close my eyes on udrih now and hope almost erveryone sells him today!
158Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 05:48
Dilo, that roster looks good. I'm contemplating the same thing with Beno (in my case holding until the 20th) and hoping that everybody sells today. Still not decided though.
159deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 06:07
I am defenitely moving Beno today.
Since I kept Louis for that.
160turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 06:22
I am definitely undecided what to to with Beno. I don't really like all the options today (J. Smith, K. Thomas, A. Carter). And with other problems just around the corner (Salmons and Gay) it looks more uglier. I must think about it and let you know later what i will do.
162Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 07:47
My decision with Beno comes down to this:

------------
A) Move Beno to Carter/AJ (I need a G) today. Entirely lock me out of Daniels next week and have a forced trade out of Carter soon. I guess no one really thinks Carter lasts for more than say two weeks.

B) Move Beno to Daniels today. Get another ugly Daniels matchup and the hits for his 2in7. Reduce my Bynum>Kaman window on Tuesday to 220k as of now.

C) Hold Beno for now and move to Daniels on 1/20. Eat Beno's losses until then and miss on Carter gains (which might be short lived anyway). Gives me an extra trade until next Sunday, which could be useful in case something drastic happens.
------------

While writing this down, I'm beginning to think that C would be the wisest thing to do. Still, I'm open to anything so your opinions are welcome as always.
164Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 09:17
Soulman, I think AC would be a great pickup and if he is performing, would be safe for a long time.

That being said, I also think the window with the Daniels P/U for Kaman would be safe. I find it hard to imagine Kaman gains coupled with any losses incurred by Bynum ( if there are early exits ) would exceed $220K.

But there are strange ways people play this game and if Bynum games are sacrificed.... well let's say it is hard to fathom.

Personally, on some teams that still have Beno, I plan on AC today.

165Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 12:36
Beno -> Carter for me, with the intention to hold at least till 1/29 and possibly to AS Break if he does well. I think I've abandoned the idea to get Daniels in the near future.

Trying to see when is a good time to go into Lebron. Would like to get him as soon as 1/20 or 1/21 but that would mean sacrificing either Wallace or Stoudemire and go tradeless on that day as I would like to get Paul and Bynum from Baron and Jackson on 1/20. Not sure I'll do that. We'll see.

166deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 13:10
Beno to AC for me today too.

Near future:
Dwight will become Duncan or Marion
Baron to Kidd/Paul
Louis to Bynum
prolly
Would like to have Lebron/Butler at one point too.
167Dilo
      Donor
      ID: 30912294
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 13:57
Soulman, I thought the same thing about carter. I think he will be that widely owned on 30th that it will be hard to resist to bring home the money. Nonetheless I'm buying him tomorrow (fits well and I can use a money-push)but from Mcdyess, Udrih I will hold as I mentioned above.
For you, with bynum, salmons, howard, miller, davis and udrih (all on the trading block, i think) waiting on udrih could be the safest route to go.
168deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 16:47
162

Would do A.
But Im doing that too, so Im not neutral.
169turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 20:16
I am going Beno to AC.
171deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 08:08
4 Bynums we have.
I am not one of them this time, but do have him on another team.
Dont really who to get. RJefferson maybe.
172deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 08:08
Dont really know, that should say.
173Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 08:16
I see no reason not to carry through, a day early, with the planned Bynum=>Kaman trade
174turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 09:22
This Bynum thing destoys my plany again. But it opens a door to get Kidd. My future plans:

Bynum - Kidd today

Howard - Duncan
Salmons - Marion both on Thursday

Gay - Bynum on Sunday (If Bynum is healthy again)

G.Wallace - Butler
J-Rich - Jamison both on 1/27

The only disadvantage is that i must take Marion instead of Nash. But i think Kidd will outscore Nash over the next 16 days so this will compensate the fewer Marion points.

What do you think about my plans?

175qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 09:31
*intruder*

looks like a good plan...but I think you should plan for bynum not to be healthy.
176CJ
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 11:20
Agree with 175

Here is the optimist comments :

The 20-year-old center expressed the opinion as he left Staples Center following the game that his injury isn't serious, but perhaps that's simply wishful thinking.

"I feel all right," he said, walking under his own power, although limping slightly, with a brace on his left leg while personal trainer Sean Zarzana carried a pair of crutches.

"It's on the top of the kneecap, and a little on the right," Bynum said. "I was pretty scared. But the X-rays were negative. I never heard a pop. Just when I bend it, it hurts. I'm feeling fine, it's not as bad as I thought. I put ice on it, and it felt better right away."
177bd
      ID: 01081412
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 17:51
Which do you prefer?
Option A) Bynum --> Kaman tonight
Option B) Bynum/Jackson --> Camby/Kenyon Martin
Tomorrow Mo Will --> Kaman

I really want Camby but after looking at this a lot today feel option A is probably the best way to go. I keep a few trades and Mo. Will may bounce back nicely and then can be held for a while longer.
178bd
      ID: 01081412
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 17:52
I'll throw in option C too...
Gasol/Bynum --> Camby/Kaman
179deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 17:57
A or C depends on your trade situation...
180bd
      ID: 01081412
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:17
I have 3 trades and the following roster:
G - Davis, Williams, Calderon, Carter
F - Wallace, JRich, Jackson, Gay
C - Bynum, Gasol

If Mo Williams does poorly tonight I think he'll have to go. Davis, Calderon and Jackson will need to go next week.
181Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:24
bd, I'd absolutely go with A. Maybe C if you feel lucky, but definitely not B. Just my 2 cents.
182deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:26
Gasol is not highly owned so a good differentatior, and playing well recently.
However adding Camby gains you a game and he could be kept longer, its camby of course, so keep a trade at hand.
if Mo does not play well and you need/want to move him, then youre tradeless and with 3 planned trades next week, not much may go wrong.
So its kinda risky.
183deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:29
If I were you bd, Id rather move Gay before Id move Gasol, hes not spectacular lately and highly owned.
184bd
      ID: 01081412
      Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:41
I've traded and undid the trades a couple of times already, so I'm not still not sure how I'll end up. I'll probably take a chance on Camby. It may be a quick experiment and I might take the 3 to 1 game advantage and go back to Gasol???

DJ I agree that Gay hasn't been great lately, but he doesn't give me the $$ I would need to get any of the players I wanted.
186deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 07:58
So team, Kaman?
187Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 08:21
Looks like we have 4 with no trades, and of those with trades, Dilo doesn't have Kaman. So deejay, it's only you, Gescom and I that have to worry about it.

My take? He's only questionable, which seems to make it sound like it's not serious. LAC doesn't play again until Friday, so if he misses tonight, I would expect him to be back on Friday.

Unless word comes out it's more serious than " questionable" leads me to believe, I'm not trading him.

What's your thoughts?
188Gescom
      Leader
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 08:38
The last 3 weeks have turned ugly:
- Missed Paul
- Missed Richardson
- AC over Daniels (on his way to bite big time)
- Boone over Thomas (What was I thinking ???)
And now that... Just the continuation of a free fall. At current pace, I'm out of Top 100 by the week-end. I won't be around at game time tonight so I'm tempted to move preventively to Camby (which I should have done yesterday). So be prepared to have Kaman dropping 60 and Camby to twist a pinkie and be sidelined indefinitely. Sorry Blooki.


189deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 08:39
Well I dont know, light trading and all. And if he indeed sits then another hit tomorrow. Could be ugly, not?
So I was looking at Marion and then Dwight to Kaman.
No Duncan that means, but had to chose between Marion/Duncan on 1/17. Kaman choses for me then.
Uses an xtra trade though and not sure its worth that.

190deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 08:41
Or Camby indeed hmm.
191Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 11:07
Re: 188

Camby and preventative used in the same sentence with the context describing Camby as such. Heh...
192Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 07:24
If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
A pop up will display a longer definition of the header.

GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

The following columns are sartible and reverse sartible.
Click on the column header once for the default sort order.
Click a second time for the reverse sort order.

Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

LSWP5

WWR

FV

Cash

RV

FVC

Trades

1 turnabouts-1495 11156.5 179.5 2987 22 74.18 2.02 72.16 0.19 4
2 Dave R-4326 11107.5 246 3013.5 188 74.94 1.80 73.14 0.28 7
3 Soulman-786 11031 185.5 2831 70 74.01 0.79 73.22 0.30 4
4 Gescom-1851 10969.5 259.5 2865 71 73.47 2.67 70.80 0.43 4
5 Usual Suspects-1857 10968 254 2921 34 71.81 2.24 69.57 0.53 4
6 deejay-168 10829 271 2715.5 140 72.48 3.03 69.45 0.53 5
7 Dilo-1633 10725 264.5 2725 128 70.83 4.36 66.47 0.04 5
8 Philsphan-197 10578.5 176 2721 296 68.17 0.11 68.06 0.40 4



Head To Head

UNIQUE TO
UNIQUE TO
COMMON TO BOTH TEAMS
193Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 08:28
Looks like Daniels was a bad idea. I'm the only genius here that got him. Although, my guess is he's back for the next game, I also think the knee issue will be a recurring matter with the dense schedule.
So I think it's time to cut loose.

Thinking of either Anthony Johnson or Kurt Thomas. My first choice initially was Thomas, who is around a 2 1/2 week hold.

Now thinking Johnson, much cheaper and if he keeps putting up solid numbers can be held forever, it seems.

Any thoughts?
194deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 08:54
Well Dave I have considered Lou to AJohnson too, it loses me a game though, so in your case it makes more sense.
Hes an option and I have him already on another team.
Kurt Thomas scares me a bit and the sked is rather short at this point for a cheapie.
195Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 11:57
#193
I think Thomas will minimally outscore AJ but still I'm leaning towards AJ over Thomas if that is to be the Daniels replacement. Three reasons for that:

1) AJ is much cheaper
2) AJ's sched is longer
3) Most importantly: AJ does not block a F or C slot, both of which I think will be in high demand in upcoming weeks (especially Fs). Don't see any Guards that will be must-haves into February.
196Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 12:13
As far as the G/F issue, I agree, although essentially Thomas would be replacing Bynum in what I had planned earlier. So squeezing in the F's and C's I had earmarked shouldn't be an issue.
197Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 12:27
In that case it's a toss-up I guess. One strong point in favor of AJ would be if there was any C besides Kaman on the horizon emerging as a must-have in the next few weeks, but right now I think that's about as likely as Josh Boone breaking the NBA record in FTM.
198dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 13:16
Soulman

fyi
i believe today is a waiver period for GMD
199Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 15:13
Yes I know, but thanks for the heads-up anyway. Actually, I am already in mail contact with the other captains all day long... ;) Waiver thread will be opened in a few minutes.
200deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 17:37
Is Louis to AJohnson too lateral?
I need a player around their price for my further plans.
The money will be nice, but not sure its worth it?
Or should I just keep Lou (likely then till 1/27, 6in9)?

201turnabouts
      ID: 6828256
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 18:04
200

Keep him. I think it's not worth it. Both players have ten games over the next three weeks. And who knows which new and better player will be available on 1/27 when Louis can be moved.

Anthony Johnson is not bad but with the Lue return and rookie Law in the back he should not play 30+ minutes any more.
202deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 18:14
Leaning towards holding I think.

Thanks turnabouts.
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