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Subject: Team Bandwagon GMD team (TP5)
Posted by: The Bandwagon@work
- [151118518] Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 18:58
"I issued an upgrade for Team Bandwagon before the bell on Jan. 3rd to a market outperform for the next 3 sessions."
That's from the Team Bandwagon TP4 thread. The upgrade was dead on as Team Bandwagon has broke out of a trading range to a new 52 week high.
Great job guys!
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| 68 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 15:40
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if it helps personally i am choosing odom over Howard. And I dont see how its possible to fit in Camby howard and odom as Kaman Butler and likely Jamison are probably even higher regarded. Even Dirk looks good
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| 69 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 15:41
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forgot to add james to the must have forwards
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| 70 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 15:43
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Kidd possibly is too.
Just do it, Senator :)))
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| 71 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 16:27
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Haha, I think I might, just to put my mind at ease. I won't have access for a few days, so this will at least make it easier on Blooki in theory.
Right now my forward/center slots consist of Lebron, Duncan, Jamison, Butler, Camby, and Kaman. Duncan has to go at the end of the week, and Howard is probably the guy. Depending on how Odom does over these next couple games, maybe moving Camby to Odom would be a good idea (+3 games and money swing for a trade). This would pretty much guarantee me being able to move Cassell or Daniels into Calderon when the time comes, if I go with my plan D (Kobe and Marvin today).
The news of Deng being out is intriguing though too - maybe I should go cheaper than Marvin and pick up Thabo? Who knows...
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| 72 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 17:12
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I'm thinking Kidd has to go tonight. No one else will be buying him all week, only selling. Many people will be buying Kobe all week, and no one selling.
The big question is what to do with Mo. Sadly it's looking like the best options are:
- Ginobili for the quick two, then into Crawford or Robinson
- Taking Crawford or Robinson now despite the two days off
- Locking in Marvin Williams forever (but do I want to lock him in?)
- Devin Harris, though I feel he's equivalent to Robinson, just with a better longterm schedule but almost three million more
- Gambling on Thabo (though I don't really even need a cheapie as things stand)
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| 73 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 18:19
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Ok, I'm limiting the from-Mo choices, but feel free to add more if you like any better:
A) Anthony Johnson
B) Marvin Williams
I may be thinking too "in the box" by locking in Kobe and not going for, say, Josh Smith. But I really want Kobe now.
Marvin and Johnson are both theoretically "hold forevers". But at the same time, do I really want either on my roster forever? If I get Johnson, I'll also be sitting on 7.6 million in a few days (but that quickly changes to 4.4, but still). Maybe that 4.4 will come in handy for injuries or when it comes time to sell the Washington guys. But at the same time, when I sell the Washington guys, I'll probably be looking at the other guy who I didn't get.
I'm really torn and I've just spent three hours on this that I don't have. Ugh.
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| 74 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 20:27
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I think I'm just going to go with Kobe and Marvin from Kidd and Mo. It's time to start locking in some longterm holds - the fewer trades I make, the fewer mistakes. Sound good? I have a feeling Marvin is going to go off.
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| 75 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 21:13
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well i had wallace sold and then with news he was in the lineup I undid the trade right before gametime. thats not looking to be a good move. Think if I undid the move at 7:02 I can concince TSN I shouldnt have been able to make the move thereby negating the undo?
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| 76 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 21:20
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well nevermind. RSF calculator just isnt working tonight. all the totals are way to low. i responded wen i thought he had 14 in the 4th.
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| 77 | reebbertxx
Leader
ID: 561124720
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 21:26
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76, yahoo box scores only going to halftime as well. Must be a stat feed thing.
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| 80 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 13:13
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Guys, thinking of moving Kidd to Josh Smith today. Possibly lateral, but I think the Kidd bleeding will start tonight. I want to hold Amare as well, but tonight may be his last game with my squad, as I'll likely move him to Jamison tomorrow to free up cash for Duncan to LBJ on 1/30. Considering moving JRich to Josh Howard after the Bobcats back to back, hopefully Howard is out of gravity in 2 days. Anyway, the rest of my lineup can be held for a while. Am I out of line looking to move Kidd and Amare early?
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| 81 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 13:21
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yea Im contemplating the Kidd move as well. With wallace hard fall my window for upcoming moves is questionable so a move out of Kidd secures it. It doesnt project to gain any points unless Kidd keeps up his poor production but should gain good money and I would want Smith for his dense schedule right after the ASB anyways, tho the WAS guys could make nice transitions tho at a much steeper price.
I also am debating when i want to move Amare as his schedule matches the guys I want to move him for (odom, Jamison) right up to his sell date so its a tradedoff of Amare higher production versus the money gains by moving early.
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| 82 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 13:35
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I think I'm doing the Kidd to Josh also. I was wrestling with the idea that the move was lateral (and it is one for one), but it free's up enough $$ where I can do a good rotation from another slot that I wouldn't be able to do if I keep Kidd.
I'm keeping Amare until the end.
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| 83 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Fri, Jan 25, 2008, 15:35
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My RV is well below the level of the Bandwagon and dpr, so I'll likely move Amare tonight, and risk the potential loss of TSNP versus Jamison. I was $60K short of a potential group of moves, so I'm feeling the pain of a lower roster value, and Amare is now bleeding with no set sell date for a week. The crazy thing is I picked up Josh Smith early, figuring I could hold him for over a month, then reluctantly traded him to Kidd, not wanting to miss out on JK's nice schedule and ongoing triple doubles. OH well.
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| 84 | Gary D
ID: 3503650
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 00:00
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Cant we run the standings according to last5tnp just for one day,for me to see my name up top..Well im just " kidd"ing around,as im happy to be rewarded by jkidd for holding.
Really just didnt want to be tradeless on a friday. Will be downgrading gay tmrw, to be able to go duncan/LBJ after refresh..
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| 85 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 08:03
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Kidd/Amare to Jsmith/Jamison cost me about 7 TSNP but netted me $500K. A decent result I suppose.
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| 86 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 08:13
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And 500k isn't even the end result, further swings to come today and the following days.
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| 87 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 10:43
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I'm not enjoying these daily Amare bleeding one bit and I am considering dumping him early.
Amare > Odom today
Jrich > LBJ tomorrow
the current window stands at 420k, which I think should be fairly safe given JRich plays today and LBJ is entering a 1 in 4.
What do you guys think?
Amare > Odom is lateral but I suspect Amare will lose about 500k cumulatively from today and Wednesday.
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| 89 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 11:49
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yea I am unsure what to do with Amare now. My plan was to move him to odom but odoms production hasnt remained as high as right after Bynum went down making me a bit leary. Still his schedule is great. If i knew I wanted odom I would move today.
At current prices I would have 8.61 to choose a replacement. With another day of gerald losses, another day of jamison gains, and a few more days of duncan losses and james games I cant really approach that too much. Deron Williams is an interesting option at 8.32 but I cant see that window holding as Duncans losses themselves could match that. TO be safe i likely need a player under 8. Williams would have been nice as he transitions nicely into calderon which I dont durrently have other than moving out of one of my cheapie guards or getting in a week late from WAS.
You guys like Odom? or is there another alternative less than 8?
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| 90 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 12:13
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well I moved Amare to Jamison and will figure out alter what to do with Wallace altho he has to be moved before I can go into James. unless my .05 window holds but that isnt possible.
Unless u guys think maggette is a good alternative to Odom in which case I should get him today. wat you guys think?
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| 91 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 16:02
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INTRUDER
DPR, I don't like Odom as you can see from my roster. I also think he is injury prone and will not last his schedule. He has never been a 40/g guy, check his career stats. I don't see any reason why he should be a 40/g now, even with Bynum gone.
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| 92 | Pica
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ID: 161141312
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 20:40
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With the Kaman news I'm going to hold Amare for another game at least, just to be on the safe side.
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| 94 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 12:43
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well im selling Kaman. Moved him to LBJ and will move back into kaman from TD. IF kaman doesnt miss anymore then I used a trade to get an LBJ game over kaman plus significant money which isnt great but not awful. IF kaman misses this game or more then it should work out well. Unfortunately if kaman isnt healthy I wont have enough money to go to Howard from TD and will need a center so will likely go with Miller.
I sold wallace today and picked up randolph who I like for his recent high production and nice transition into Calderon in two weeks. Do you guys like crawford more? he is 2 million less and will make more money but likely get fewer points.Should Kaman also be out he would provide me the money to go to Howard
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| 95 | Senator Urine
ID: 011502111
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 14:43
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Hey guys, I've been gone for the past few days so I'm kind of out of the loop. I see that Kaman missed last night's game and is day to day.
The three main replacements standing out upon first glance are Josh Smith, Odom, and Deron.
A) Smith - I think I like him the most, but the problem is that at current prices I'd be 410k short of Duncan to Howard. And not getting Dwight could be costly.
B) Odom - He's got the schedule and the right price, but he's all over the place and lately has stunk.
C) Deron - He's been doing pretty well lately, but realistically is only a 5 game hold.
The problem with any replacement is "how do I get back in to Kaman?" With Duncan going to Howard (or someone else if I get Smith), I'd only have Camby as a means for re-entry. And their schedules don't really match at all. Camby is also playing so well right now and doesn't seem to be very highly owned - I wouldn't mind keeping him for a long time.
What do you guys think?
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| 96 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 14:55
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*intruder...i think most will turn to duncan as a path back into kaman...skipping out on howard, which might be a bad idea judging by his performance so far today.
i find it too hard to fit LBJ, Kobe and Howard's high price tags...so i'll suffer without dwight for 4 games.
also...i would consider deron a 9 game hold, not 5.
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| 97 | Senator Urine
ID: 011502111
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 15:04
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I think Deron could get sold off after the 5 in 7, and then again for the Duncan re-entry date.
I guess one option is to do what you said and take Smith, and move Duncan back into Kaman and skip Dwight. But Dwight feels like a must, and do we even know Kaman is going to be available on Wednesday? What if he's a gametime decision still (and what if gamechannel doesn't have it for that game)?
Another option is to take Deron and move Duncan to Howard as originally planned. Then when it's clear that Kaman is back, move Deron back into him. Basically just use Deron as a band-aid.
My original plan had me possibly moving Camby to Odom after Denver's back to back, but right now that feels crazy with Camby's high performance and Odom's sucking.
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| 98 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 15:09
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Was going to move Duncan to Lebron 1/30, and move JRich to Josh Howard today. Considering Kaman/JRich to LBJ/Brad Miller. Then I'll get Kaman back from Duncan 1/30 if he's OK. Will leave me tradeless today though
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| 99 | The Bandwagon
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ID: 479521116
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 16:28
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Wow how quickly plans change. I had it all set last night, and today I picked up two totally different players than I had planned, and sold one I didn't have planned. I got rid of Gay and Kaman, and kept JRich for atleast another game.
I finally said goodbye to Gay. I've had him from day one this season, and I really hated to let him go.
I vote C SU.
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| 100 | Senator Urine
ID: 011502111
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 17:00
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I think I'm going to go with Deron, he seems to provide the most flexibility. Smith is the guy I want though, but he can come later and I want Howard on Wednesday. Unless something magically comes out about Dwight being suspended, I think I have to go Deron.
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| 101 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 20:42
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I was so concentrated on figuring out what to do with Kaman last night I totally forgot about the 2nd leg of the trade in post87. Then when I woke up the game's already over. Of course LBJ did not disappoint those that just got him.
Arrrr.. it seems these Sunday afternoon games always get me a couple times every season. I did, moved Kaman to Brad Miller.
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| 103 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 10:55
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I should have enough cash to go JRich > LBJ tomorrow and TD > Howard on Wednesday should Kaman were still unavailable then. The trick is Orlando plays much earlier than the Clippers so if Kaman is still a GTD then I can't wait for the starting lineup to pull the trigger.
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| 105 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 15:41
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So...Camby and Kaman are both iffy for tomorrow. Best bet would probably be to hold Camby tonight, and then if he's out of the lineup move him to Kaman no matter what?
If we knew right now that both would be out tomorrow it would be fun gambling on Al Jefferson for two games, but I don't think that's a realistic option.
All of the other center options tonight (and tomorrow, besides Dwight who I'd be getting from Duncan) are essentially poop, so I should probably stand pat and hope at least one of them plays tomorrow. I just hope the price hits aren't too bad.
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| 106 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 15:48
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*intruder*
what about brad miller? unless i hear kaman is playing for sure, i will probably get miller and get kaman later on.
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| 107 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 18:47
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Senator - Barring any further news on Kaman suggesting there could be a prolonged absence, I am considering moving Duncan to Kaman tomorrow "no matter what" as well. At this point, I am uncertain moving Camby is a good use of a trade, but if prolonged injury is a concern Brad Miller has been averaging 40 TSNP over the last month and has a decent schedule upcoming (save of one 3 day hole next week) I will add that I picked up Miller a couple of days ago so mine may not be a totally unbiased opinion.
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| 108 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:25
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Well Butler now throws a wrench into things. I sold him with the news he's probably out tomorrow also. The logical replacement is Josh Smith, but then getting back into Butler on Friday will be impossible. I could possibly get in from Deron for Sunday's game. These injuries are ridiculous. It's gotten to the point where they don't even upset me anymore, it's just to be expected. You guys agree with Smith?
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| 109 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:29
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SU, what about Odom or Randolph? If Butler plays on Friday you get a 8 to 5 game advantage with Zach and he transitions nicely back into Butler. Odom is a longer term hold. Also they are about $2M cheaper if you needed the money. I don't know which one of the three to get.
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| 110 | Dean Martin
Donor
ID: 489552616
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:41
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*intruder*
105 - SU, Sportsnetwork now has Camby listed as probable for tomorrow.
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| 111 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:42
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It's tough, all three are very inconsistent, but I like the idea of holding Josh forever. Like the Kaman situation, it's hard to plan re-entry into a player when we don't know for sure when they're coming back.
Randolph is a Knick so he has that against him, and Odom has been miserable lately. And with the trade deadline coming up, who knows if they ship him out if they (foolishly) try to acquire Kidd. I like Smith's big game potential, but he's thrown up some bad ones himself.
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| 112 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:57
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Hmm, maybe they answer is in the averages. Smith's are ridiculous compared to the other two. The only problem I see in Smith is those two days off (2/10 and 2/11) where he could be sold and then picked back up again from another spot. And of course Odom plays both of those days. But Odom has a tendency to disappear.
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| 113 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:59
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FWIW I went with Smith...based on the averages.
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| 114 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:59
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With Camby probable, do I gamble and move Butler to Kaman? See if I can get a DNP trifecta going on.
Nah.
I'll probably have to pass on Kaman for tomorrow, and then force him from either Deron or Camby.
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| 115 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 20:43
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well I was annoyed I missed the freeze and couldnt sell butler then i realized I didnt have trades anyways.
Tomorrow i gunna mean alot of planning as DUncan and Butler will likely ahve to go and I will need to consider entries into Calderon, Dirk, Butler, TD and Kaman as factors. Its gunna be tough
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| 116 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 20:45
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I woke up 5 minutes after the Wizards game started so there was nothing I can do. Now that I had some time to think about things I am leaning towards holding at this moment.
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| 117 | The Bandwagon@work
ID: 151118518
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 21:52
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I had to come in early for work, so I did my trades around noon today. I went JRich/Iverson to Kobe/Calderon. After the Butler news, I un-did the Iverson to Calderon trade and sold Butler instead of Iverson.
Messing with fantasy hoops vs working is going to get me fired one of these days :)
What ever happened to that thread "You know you're addicted to fantasy sports when" (See above) LOL
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| 118 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 05:51
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Well, I bet you can guess which of the three options I took from Butler last night. Ugh.
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| 119 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 09:28
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| 120 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:35
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My original plans for the week included moving Duncan to Kaman, and Gay to ???. I think I'll now move Butler to Deron today and make the Duncan move if Kaman plays tonight. Even through a slow schedule, at the rate players are getting hurt, I'm thinking of holding Gay through his 2 in 8 to keep 2 trades available. Any thoughts.
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| 121 | The Bandwagon@work
ID: 151118518
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 17:38
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I think holding Gay and saving 2 trades is a great idea. Gay is cheap enough, and produces more than his price tag, plus his schedule heats up again on 2/12.
I have Calderon, and I plan to hold him through his 1 in 6 without any hesitation.
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| 122 | tothreeball
Dude
ID: 09118139
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 17:45
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Thanks BW, I agree and will likely hold Gay. Seeing the latest Kaman news, I'm inclined to just hold Duncan, and take the price hit. I can move Duncan on Friday to either Kaman or Butler, whoever seems healthier. There really isn't anyone else I want and I don't want to spend 2 trades to save $200K by trading Duncan today. As discussed earlier, I could save the $$ and move to Kaman regardless, but it's not enough of a price swing to give up the points.
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| 123 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 01:30
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To be honest I'm kinda stuck. I kept TD last night thinking he was my only way into Kaman when I want to go that route. With Miller and Camby however I can't fit kaman unless I move one. With Camby injury questions and recent poor production I figured a move to Dirk tomorrow and then moving TD to Kaman assuming he is healthy would be a good move. However now that Camby is again impressing me with his scores I wondering if selling a player that really can be held is a good idea when I have been trade strapped? With the plan to move Camby I would be down to one trade friday with my last trade not needing to be used. If I'm aggressive a move of Randolph into JHoward, TD or Butler at the end of the week and moving either Cassell or Carter into Calderon. IF i wanna be conservative I could hold randolph and move to calderon from there.
Now if i dont move Camby I have pretty much barred myself from being able to get Kaman because of the way their schedules match up, which could hurt as a productive Kaman at 7M with that schedule could be tough to have no possible entry into. Also this leaves me with the dilemma of where to go from Duncan as I don't really like any of the option. Howard doesnt really work because he bars me from getting Dirk and Calderon (from randolph and cheap guard x). Butler if he looks healthy or Odom would be the best options here I guess (or hold). Randolph would then have to Dirk and cheapie to calderon.
So those are my thoughts of confusion. What do you guys think? Some questions to simplify...
Is it real bad to leave myself with no in to kaman meaning I should move Camby now when he has a small blip in his schedule? Are there any guards or forwards that look good out of Duncan? Also if Kaman isnt ready to go from Duncan with the plan moving Camby I leave myself in trouble as I would need a center from him.
well i gues the question is just do I move Camby? Im leaning yes
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