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0 Subject: Gurupie 20 2007 Season 6 Discussion II

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- Donor [539581218] Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 09:53

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138Great One
      ID: 233541511
      Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 11:10
Think I still tied for 3rd... is there a tiebreaker of some sort?

Yeah, I actually had a late rough patch with Mo Williams and Kevin Martin and Mike Miller all hit with injuries down the stretch and shutting it down. Chris Quinn was a lucky add and Ricky Davis stepped it up (but that I had planned on as I knew D-Wade would shut it down the way the season was going). Just thought it would be Marcus not Quinn in the PG spot.
139Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 11:23
I was looking on Live Scoring. Those have been so messed up lately who knows.

Guess we have to assume the Standigns are correct. No there is no tiebreak--you'll split 3rd place winnings. We will dice roll it for draft position.
140Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 12:04
Congrats bmd on an awesome season.
141beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Thu, Apr 17, 2008, 19:03
Thanks everyone. I was blessed with a pretty healthy team. Only 2 of my top 8 guys missed more than 15 games(Bosh missed 15 and Ford missed 31). Hell, even Grant Hill stayed healthy. He played more games this season than he has since 99-00. My center by committee looked pretty bad halfway through the season but Boone finally started to get some PT and that was huge.

I think Ref showed how well a team can improve through the draft. He didn't even have a 1st round pick and definitely had the best draft of anyone. Congrats to him on his 2nd place finish.

Can't wait til next year.
142RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 00:14
Congrats bmd!
143Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 18:05
RANK TEAM PTS CHG TRANS
1 beastiemiked 144 -1 25
2 Can't Beat the ... 138.5 1.5 9
3 Twarpy 131 0 15
4 Great One 131 -2.5 27
5 RecycledSpinalF... 128 2 22
6 KnicksFan 123.5 0 13
7 slackjawed yoke... 120 0 4
8 Frick 113 3 12
9 RotoGuru Talaxi... 111 0 5
10 Extreme Basketb... 102 -1 16
11 Peter N. 99 -0.5 15
12 Blurred Crusade... 97 0 20
13 blackjackis21 92 0 14
14 coldwater coyot... 79 2 12
15 barilko6 55 -3 14
16 Perm Dude 54 0 22
17 Young Lions 48 0 8
18 The Knicks of G... 45 1.5 16
19 Tosh 42 -2 23
20 Team rockafelle... 37 0 16
144Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 22:12
Great year bmd. Well done.
145Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 11:47
Rank Team Total Change FG% FT% Pts 0Reb Reb Ast Stl Blk 3PM
1 beastiemiked 144 -1 15 13 19 19 20 11 20 20 7
2 Can't Beat the Refs 138.5 1.5 13 6 20 18 19 19 10.5 15 18
3 Great One 131 -2.5 18 18 17 10 15 14 9 13 17
4 Twarpy 131 0 7 7 15 16 17 16 19 18 16
5 RecycledSpinalFluid 128 2 17 14 18 17 13 12 18 7 12
6 KnicksFan 123.5 0 16 5 16 14 16 15 10.5 16 15
7 slackjawed yokel 120 0 19 17 10 13 12 18 7 10 14
8 Frick 113 3 4 19 12 11 10 7 13 17 20
9 RotoGuru Talaxians 111 0 20 2 13 20 18 9 15 11 3
10 Extreme Basketball 102 -1 2 20 11 5 8 20 16 1 19
11 Peter N. 99 -0.5 9 10 14 9 11 10 17 6 13
12 Blurred Crusaders 97 0 10 15 6 15 14 17 8 8 4
13 blackjackis21 92 0 11 16 7 12 9 5 14 9 9
14 coldwater coyotes 79 2 8 8 9 1 5 13 12 12 11
15 barilko6 55 -3 6 9 4 6 7 1 6 14 2
16 Perm Dude 54 0 12 11 8 3 2 3 3 2 10
17 Young Lions 48 0 3 3 1 4 3 8 1 19 6
18 The Knicks of G20 45 1.5 14 4 5 8 6 2 2 3 1
19 Tosh 42 -2 1 12 2 2 1 6 5 5 8
20 Team rockafellerskank 37 0 5 1 3 7 4 4 4 4 5

Standings by Rotisserie Points | Details by Statistics

Week: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | YTD
Rank Team GP FG% FT% Pts 0Reb Reb Ast Stl Blk 3PM
1 beastiemiked 721 .475 .773 11,533 1,253 4,908 2,184 808 623 544
2 Can't Beat the Refs 724 .473 .746 11,571 1,142 4,753 2,459 678 460 738
3 Great One 718 .481 .797 11,356 967 4,165 2,309 669 448 724
4 Twarpy 719 .457 .751 10,341 1,110 4,627 2,362 804 542 723
5 RecycledSpinalFluid 719 .480 .793 11,361 1,124 3,886 2,257 769 398 604
6 KnicksFan 715 .476 .741 11,153 1,091 4,458 2,314 678 465 676
7 slackjawed yokel 718 .482 .796 9,485 1,047 3,798 2,389 599 413 650
8 Frick 711 .453 .798 9,962 973 3,676 1,855 697 470 824
9 RotoGuru Talaxians 721 .484 .709 10,071 1,297 4,724 1,929 720 418 360
10 Extreme Basketball 710 .450 .811 9,907 848 3,471 2,736 723 328 752
11 Peter N. 680 .460 .758 10,078 954 3,757 1,946 724 397 614
12 Blurred Crusaders 715 .463 .794 8,499 1,108 4,053 2,372 668 406 431
13 blackjackis21 707 .468 .795 8,550 1,034 3,617 1,741 704 411 577
14 coldwater coyotes 714 .460 .758 9,483 725 3,247 2,275 683 431 599
15 barilko6 648 .455 .758 7,987 915 3,362 1,436 582 457 350
16 Perm Dude 690 .469 .758 8,965 789 2,933 1,484 481 336 597
17 Young Lions 643 .451 .725 5,916 800 3,197 1,893 459 552 534
18 The Knicks of G20 659 .475 .736 8,007 953 3,307 1,482 471 337 333
19 Tosh 693 .425 .762 7,362 736 2,804 1,844 559 368 561
20 Team rockafellerskank 717 .453 .701 7,374 929 3,228 1,501 529 357 507
146Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 12:58
Thanks to everyone for a great season, and congrats to bmd.

Next year will be the year of Greg Oden!
147beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 19:23
Up until this year we had a different winner the 1st 5 years. Says a lot about the parity of this league.
148beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 19:23
Up until this year we had a different winner the 1st 5 years. Says a lot about the parity of this league.
149Slizz
      ID: 27319199
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 12:26
Didnt finish last!

congratulations to BMD.
150Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 12:37
All I wanna know is when we can trade.
151Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 14:36
I see that a couple of teams made free agent pickups on Thursday, the day after the season ended. Do we allow this? Are F/A add/drops still allowed?
152RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 15:45
I dont think so.
153Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 18:09
Make the arrests, Sheriff Guru.
154Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 23:47
Nope the freeze is the freeze of that player's game on the last day of that player's season.
155RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Mon, May 12, 2008, 14:46
Did we dish out the winnings?
156Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, May 16, 2008, 14:32
Prize email was just sent out to bmd, Ref, GO, Twarpy, RSF, and KF
157RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, May 16, 2008, 15:23
Next years fee and extra to Guru for me.
158beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 10:57
I'm not complaining but how are the prize pools calculated?

Also, file another $40 for future years(Pretty sure I have $35 left over from last year still). Rest goes to the site.
159Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 20, 2008, 13:22
6th place gets their money back and it goes up from there. A few are not in the pool so it knocks it down. It's listed in the rules on the site.
160KnicksFan
      ID: 334572420
      Sat, May 24, 2008, 22:00
I put mine toward next year's dues.
161Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 15:01
Are we going to do a draft lottery like G24 (football) to coincide with the NBA draft?

I know Ref worked really hard to create the drama for the G24 draft only to a 33% turnout, but I still thought it was a pretty cool thing to do.
162Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 15:53
I loved it too... When you think about it, only about 33% of the teams cared though, so perhaps thats why. I'm sure all the lottery teams would check in to see if they stole the high pick if they knew it would be released at a certain time or whatever.
163Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 18:47
I would. I'm reaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hoping to come up big and get into the top 2.
164Slizz
      ID: 21733916
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 11:13
you and me both Species! hopefully karma is on my side for not tanking by actually setting my lineup when I could've secured the #1 odds!
165Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 11:23
Slizz, doing my best actually got me Roy.
166barilko6
      ID: 3051187
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 11:28
My team could use some help with a higher pick too! This group of guys is slowly coming around after picking up a weak set of keepers, but would be better with that top pick!

Go Ping Pong Balls Go!

167Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 11:42
So, when is the lottery??
168Frick
      ID: 23117516
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 13:56
Am I wrong to wish for a 3-peat?
169Great One
      ID: 56438112
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 14:21
I think the tricky part here is the commishes would need to get verbal commitments from all teams that they plan to return (or at least all the lottery teams I guess). Once thats confirmed... then I think it wouldn't be a big deal.

But say if two teams were leaving -- then they don't want to wind up having that pick determined before handing out teams to the new managers.
170Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 15:48
I think we can do it anyhow. No one has told me they aren't returning and we haven't done an analysis to determine if anyone wont be invited back.

I am not sure of my time or my ability to post during the draft at this point. Also, it seems as though only about a third of the league checked in consistently during the postings based on Guru's viewing stats.

The draft is Thursday night. If we were to do it, we would need to have some people interested to tuen in during the draft. Otherwise we might as well just post it. Also, I have to be able to be around as well. Maybe we could do it throughout the day as a build up to the actual draft?

Regardless, we'd have to be sure that Guru has the time to set it up for us before then.
171beastiemiked
      ID: 402141714
      Thu, Jun 26, 2008, 20:29
Am I wrong to wish for a 3-peat?

I know I'm wishing for one...
172Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 12:40
I WANT THE LOTTERY

I WANT THE LOTTERY

IIIIIIII WAAAAAAAAAAAAANT THEEEEEEEE LOTTERYYYYYYY
173Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 22:01
G24 football league has voted to end the tradition of the plaque. (Cards, G24 treasurer) and I are very happy about this as it was a major hassle. Several still want it though and we are considering ordering a customizable boblehead/trophy that each year the winner may simply keep. Since this league has had the most difficulty with the plaque, I'd like to suggest that here as well.
174Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Sep 12, 2008, 15:58
I heard today that we will likley need one replacement manager this upcoming season.
175Slizz
      ID: 22813187
      Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 13:49
Ref - when is the lottery?
176Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 14:19
Soon!

Been waiting for NBA's site to get up so we can go through last year's activity before inviting players back. We will need at least one new manager though. Would be nice to have that taken care of before the lottery.
177Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Sat, Sep 27, 2008, 17:31
Well I am certainly going to want to put up a proposal to switch over to Yahoo. Some of the problems that pushed you away have been adjusted or at least given some options (you can have co-managers, can change commishes and keepers can be entered which even gives the option of a live draft if we wanted).

I was very disappointed with the NBA website last year and even more aggravated with their customer service which was nonexistent at times and there were issues which they would blatantly just not fix (no league specific categories on trading screens or current season stats - no 3 pt's in the default sort etc.) There were so many other errors and things wrong, only half of which were fixed and I know the commishes sent even more emails cause we were all cc'ing each other.

I also know that several other people disliked the site just by being in trade discussions with them.

Now the other question is about live scoring, and to some extent I agree 9.99 for Statracker is a rip-off, but #1 I also think live scoring isn't really all that important for a roto-league and #2 a lot of us already have Statracker, so its not any additional cost. Honestly I only really use live scoring in H2H leagues, I don't really care if I've gained 0.5 points in blocked on a given night.

178barilko6
      ID: 52612922
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 09:36
As a newbie to the G20 league and to fantasy on NBA.com, I must say that I really didn't like the setup for theirfantasy site. In fact, I found that it actually took take away a lot of the enjoyment I had for the league.

I would wholeheartedly approve of a switch to Yahoo, and although I don't see live scoring as a necessity for Roto Basketball, I would actually pay the extra just to get out of NBA.com.

That being said, if we stick with NBA.com, I would still be in for the G-20.

179Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 12:56
I see that the NBA.com Ultimate Commissioner site appears to be up, but it would not allow me to log in, so maybe it's not really up yet.

I would also support a shift to Yahoo.
180Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 14:45
I will investigate Yahoo to see if the changes they made would allow us to switch back. I'll also look at nba to see if they have made it acceptable. Tosh and I had a lot of issues with NBA too but really like thh overall concept. Still if it's lacking again, I might have had enough of it as well--esp if Yahoo can do what we need.
181Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 16:57
At first glance of Yahoo, I notice no changes avail. to a commish from the reason we left Yahoo in the first place.

Tool Name This tool allows you to...
Lock Managers (All season) Prevent any manager from making any moves.
Edit Rosters (All season) Change the roster of any team for the upcoming day.
Edit Transaction Numbers (All season) Change the number of transactions made by a team.
Commissioner's Note (All season) Permanently post any note of general interest to your league.
Change League Name & Password (All season) Change the name and password for your league.
Change Retroactive Date (Until December 24) Change the date on which your retroactive stats (if applicable) are processed.
Edit League Settings (Variable) Edit the configurations you chose during registration. After the season begins, you cannot edit all settings.
Delete Manager (Pre-draft) Remove any team from your league.
Invite Friends (Pre-draft) Easily invite friends to join your league.
Edit Draft Order (Pre-draft) Set any draft order you wish.
Change Draft Type (Pre-draft) Change the type of draft your league uses.
Change Draft Status (Pre-draft) Tell us that your league is ready for its draft.
Change Draft Time (Pre-draft) Change the time of your league's draft.
Submit Draft Results (Pre-draft) Submit the results of your league's offline draft.
182Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:14
Basically count me in as echoing barilko6's sentiments completely, albeit with perhaps a bit more dissatisfaction with NBA.com.

GO - can you address Ref's commish concerns? I would love to go back to Yahoo.
183Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:32
Change Commish is an option in my baseball and football leagues, both PLUS and the regular leagues. I am just assuming they will offer that for hoops as well. Don't see why it would be any different.

Set CommissionerSelect a new commissioner from the list of managers. An email will be sent to notify the new commissioner and provide league access information. All other listed league members will be notified of the change via email.

184Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:40
I just renewed The Elimination Chamber for testing, and the "Change Commish" option IS in there. So thats confirmed.

"Add a Co-Manager" option is in Edit Team Settings as well.

185Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:43
Yes I see it. That was a response from Yahoo! Chagne commish doens't mean two can have access at the same time though.

We're going to do what is best for the league. I DO HATE that you have to wait a full day to get a player you pick up and really 2= days for WW pickup. I haven't looked at nba for this season yet. If they don't imporve it at all, obvioulsy we would be looking to dump them.
186Great One
      ID: 12858611
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:48
No daily "everybody frozen at the same time 30 mintues before first game" like CBS baseball though, so thats a check in the "Pro's" column as well lol...
187Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 29, 2008, 17:52
nba is 5 mins before.

I was on nba and our history is not back in yet. I have no idea what they changed.
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