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Subject: DPR's GMD Team
Posted by: dpr
- [13443116] Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 13:31
Welcome to the team guys. I will send out emails to all of u later and post my own trade thoughts. For know I wanted to set up this thread so we could get some banter going.
Also hopefully someone has the ability to run the stats for our team as I do not.
I will be back this evening to give my thoughts
Good luck to all on the team |
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| 106 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:20
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I think of Nene as a better value than Butler, but Butler could be held for a LONG time and has been hot of late. With 1.97 you have almost enough money to go Foye > Rose or even Rondo if you trade down from Chandler to a mega-cheapie like Bonner or Simmons or (gulp!) Chris Andersen. If one of those options is palatable to you, you may want to go with Butler. With Nene, you could go Foye, Chandler > Rose, Troy Murphy but that window is so small you'd have to do it today.
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| 107 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:26
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Moving Lee and Ariza
Need a C
A - Bonner and Dirk
B - Biedrins and Simmons
C - Biedrins and Bonner
A gets the most points per game, but Bonner has one fewer game this week than Simmons and a shorter schedule (maybe a good thing...would I really hold Simmons for a month?).
Tempted to go with Dirk at his bargain price, but worried about getting burned by Biedrins continuing not to own him.
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| 108 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:37
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Would you guys trade Ariza tonight for no other reason than to avoid the cap hit? I already own Hawes, have only two trades and want to have enough money left over to go Westbrook > Rose or Rondo, so I would want a cheapie. The best trade I can think of for Ariza is Bonner. Should I trade for Bonner, hold Ariza or is there someone I've missed? (don't have the flex for Barea).
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| 109 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:40
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Qwert, are you keeping in mind that Biedrins has probably already made almost all of his money?
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| 110 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:40
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CBG...we're in the same boat. I think I am trading Ariza...he just has too far to fall...and his minutes are always a question mark, so you can't predict whether he would be able to stop the bleeding.
So you would go Bonner over Simmons? I think I would too, which then opens up
Dirk, Biedrins or Butler.
I think the ship may have sailed on Biedrins...his price is at a season high and his ownership will be near the tops after tonight. Dirk on the other hand is at a season low in price and is performing well.
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| 111 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:41
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I might lean toward toward B although you already have a g/f. Biedrins does have dense schedule but already made gains and is a f/c. He would need to be traded in two weeks. I would rather swap studs than cheapies if possible. Dirk may gain as time goes along but, I am not sure how much as there may be other options at forward.
Bonner is interesting but not sure how long his schedule will be and assume probably trade after 10 days 2 weeks.
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| 112 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:41
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107 I would go with option C
108 The only reason I traded Ariza was to avoid the cap hit. If I were you and I had 2 trades I would hold Ariza. I'd eat the $$ losses and deal with him next week. Too much can change btwn now and trade refresh...I also don't like Bonner. Just my 2 cents
FWIW I went to Nene x 5. I like Butler more but I have too many cheapies to trade in the next week and I like having a cushion of over 5MM to help with the transition.
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| 113 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:42
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109 - yep...getting him would just be damage control pointwise, but I'm leaning toward Dirk.
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| 114 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:46
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qwert
I am not sure your cash situation but what forwards could you pair with nene if he isnt already in your plans? It isnt the smoothest transition but he seems to be one the best bargains for the coming weeks if you could find someone to pair him with.
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| 115 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:54
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thanks guys.
dpr, I have 11.64 million...so if I got Nene, I would have 6.83 for a F. I'm not THAT crazy about nene, despite his schedule.
the thing I like about getting a cheapie is it leaves me enough cash to upgrade duhon and/or move bosh to howard next week.
oh and I have 3 trades, not 2 like the standings say.
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| 116 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 20:26
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Unless someone tells me I'm an utter buffoon for doing so, I'm keeping Ariza. I'm hoping that his losses are largely restricted to the next 2-3 days, meaning I'd lose maybe 400-500K, not miss out on a big gainer because I see no trains to trade him for, and probably gain a few points. I'd really be short on trades in two weeks if I traded Ariza. Plus, Ariza could get some buybacks when the Lakers have what amounts to a 5 in 6.
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| 117 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 21:00
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I was thinking about trading him but with the J Rich situation and only two trades left for the week, I think I am going to hold Ariza and see what happens here for a couple of days. I agree that 5 in 6 at Xmas looks interesting but may be hard to hold him that long.
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| 118 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 21:10
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I have no doubt that the next few days will be brutal for Ariza owners, but I'm hoping that by Sunday people will move on to somebody else as their must sell. Ariza's schedule is still GOOD. His role is defined. He's had only one game under 15 all year.
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| 121 | Maineac
ID: 61142206
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:05
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After trading for Paul, Biedrins and Hawes, I have 1 trade and 5 mill. Now Brewer has to go and I can go to Dirk and use all my loot or Hilario and have 4 mill left for refresh. I like Hilario better. Would like some reinforcement if any strong feelings on this. Thanks.
Glenn
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| 122 | Maineac
ID: 61142206
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:38
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Upon further review, I like Rondo better for money and points in the long run. Any thoughts?
Glenn
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| 123 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:50
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It may depend on what your G or F position in the future will look like and money needs. I think the guard position will require more near term planning and one reason I have not considered Barea because I like others better. I think both will do about same points wise as Rondo has been over his average(until last two games) and Nene recently a little under. I think the overall average will be close and their long term holdability is similar.
I do have Rondo and view him as a possible longer term hold but last two games have been not so good.
I like Nene for the price and am looking at him for the futue but not sure when just yet.
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| 124 | qwert
ID: 361022217
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 17:18
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I'm not that crazy about nene but he's obviously going to make a
lot of money and can produce. Like twolves I think it all depends
on your plans for the future. I think planning is pretty important
right now with the possibility of Paul, howard and wade next
week.
I plan on going with stuckey as my cheap guard next week and
will also be avoiding barea.
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| 125 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 20:26
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Glenn,
If you're making the trade today, it sure seems natural to go for Nene (2 game short term advantage over Rondo) but it depends on your other plans.
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| 126 | Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 23:37
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CBG,
I wish I had gotten this earlier. I had knee surgery Monday and was out of it until Friday and then decided on Hilario for that very reason. Then I took one last quick look and my bias in favor of Rondo made me forget that. At the moment it looks like a major fornicateup.
Glenn
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| 128 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:20
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So far happy that I went with Dirk over Biedrins for sure.
Bosh's next two games are pretty important. I don't think he makes it to the triangle back into Paul unless he blows up in these two.
One thing I'm starting to look at is a bridge of Bosh to Camby on Tuesday...then either into Paul at the end of next week or Howard (if he's not healthy enough to sell Paul for on Thursday...in which case, bank a trade and hold Paul through his one in five)
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| 129 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:46
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All my original plans for Lebron seem to be disappearing: Bosh, Howard(injury) and Wade(JRich eliminated the g/f). Although Bosh looks like a good choice, I think I may hold Lebron for now due to the concern about Bosh production.
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| 130 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:59
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probably a good call with bosh leaking already.
of course...he'll probably put up a couple of monsters now but that's life.
weird trading day...no clear sells or buys...other than Paul for those who don't have him.
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| 131 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 03:11
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126
Glenn, you sure didn't miss out on much by not having Nene yesterday! Rondo's a potential long term hold so it could work out okay, but you did have the rare achievement of buying a player on a day on which he lost money. Hope you're feeling okay and recovering well.
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| 132 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 03:27
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A couple of questions:
1. Do you guys think their will be a huge run on Stuckey this week in spite of his mediocre schedule, to the point where I should trade Daniels for him Tuesday even though Daniels has 3 games while Stuckey has 2? (I think I know the answer).
2. Some people including Qwert are talking about getting Wade. When is his his buy-in date, Jan. 2? What players trade into him? I'm planning to have Paul, Harris, Stuckey and probably Rose as my guards at that time and I don't see a transition from any of them. Is Wade important enough for me to have a plan for?
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| 134 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 08:35
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STuckey has put up a couple of good games and I think there is interest in him because of his price. If he puts up same numbers as last couple, he would likely outpoint Daniels despite the extra game.
I sold LBJ yesterday with last trade after deciding I needed some cash for upgrades and he would continue to get sells over the next week or two. Bosh looked good yesterday, but decided on Dirk over Duncan due to a slightly better schedule long term. Hopefully Josh Howard will not return too soon as it seems Dirk has been very productive with Howard out.
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| 135 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 08:56
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my tentative plan is to move bosh to camby(tomorrow) to wade (on 12/23) but if Bosh does well tonight I may hang on to him and play it a little less aggressive. Unlike camby, bosh has a long term schedule, so I could hold him and take a look at a couple of Wade games to see if he's going to get back to his old self.
barring a huge game from Howard tonight, I think I've ruled out the Paul/Bosh/Howard triangle. I would rather not jump in early if Howard's not totally healthy.
CBG...where does Stuckey have 2 games to Daniels' 3? It will certainly make you money...and I see their schedules as being exactly the same over the next 3 weeks (starting tuesday).
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| 136 | bd
ID: 389151123
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 09:18
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CBG mentioned buying Tuesday and Daniels plays Wed, Fri, Sat. While Stuckey plays Wed, Fri.
I have bee swamped lately and haven't spent the time I need to on my team. I ahve Bargnani who has been absolutely horrible and have Foye who has been good (except last night). Foye's schedule is turning bad, so I need to look at replacements and it appears stuckey is the buzz word at the moment.
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| 137 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 09:48
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I see...I would think the money would make it worth the 2 games to 3...but not sure. Not a question I have to answer, as I am moving Duhon for him.
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| 138 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 13:48
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I need to figure out if i want to still do the howard-bosh-paul triangle. I deecided that if i was going to do it then I would move bosh to camby to gain a game but i would do that tomrrow. If I make that move and howard didnt come back then i am in trouble as camby doesnt transition well into people whereas bosh could be held. Also think i am going to move daniels to stuckey tomorrow
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| 139 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 15:41
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Camby transitions into Wade...but that's assuming you have the flex and the free G spots.
I'm also looking at the possibility of Camby from Bosh tomorrow.
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| 140 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 15:58
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I do have the flex but i already had a plan for wade (bynum). I guess I could jsut make the move to camby and then reevaluate the rest if howard isnt ready to go
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| 141 | DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 05:14
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Crawford>Stuckey today! Is it worth losing the TSN points to gain the money? Just curious as I don't have any trades left on this team?
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| 142 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 08:40
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If you still have Foye, I might use him instead of Crawford despite my interest since I own Foye with no trades left today.
AS for Crawford and Bosh whom I own on other non-GMD teams, I think I would hold them and hope for a big game or two to make up for the bad ones since they have dense schedules coming up.
Crawford has been getting lots of minutes and is capable of big games.
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| 144 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 09:58
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DPR,
Could you send out an email out when you get some time so we have them to share some info and get to know these "old" guys on the team?
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| 145 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 13:20
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twolves,
I remember u asked for that weeks ago and I was traveling and i forgot. However I am still going to put it off another day. I ahve two finals today and have to pack to go home for christmas so a bit busy.
Also I dont know if the details have been explained yet but tomorrow is a waiver period. The it goes this year is we have to submit either 1 or 2 players from our team (depending if we have 8 r 9) for a redraft. This means that tomorrow our roster will likely change.
We have to leave two members unprotected. For tomorrow I am going to have that be wolfer and DrD. You guys are at the bottom of our standings. Since bd has volunteered to run our standings and has been an active member of discussion(not that the rest have not) he gets the pass. Hopefully things work out so that you guys can remain on the team. If not enjoy your new teams and hopefully can rejoin us later in the year.
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| 146 | bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 13:44
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DPR if you want to put me on the waiver wire... the way Guru sends the spreadsheet to me, if you have a simple knowledge of excel, it only takes about 5 minutes. I guess what I'm saying is that don't just keep me to do the spreadsheets as I think anyone could be shown how to do it.
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| 147 | bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 14:42
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I have 2 trades (amazing for me on a Tuesday) and $2 mill cash. I would like get Rose & Stuckey but don't have that flexibility.
Thoughts are as follow:
Sell Bargnani/Foye which would give me $8.23
I would love to get Rose who is 5.47 but that wouldn't leave me enough to get Milsap or Scola.
So do I go bargnani/Foye:
1) --> Rose/ ??? (F or C under 2.76)
2) --> Stuckey/Milsap (Boozer sounds like he is close to returning, but Milsap still should put up good numbers)
3) --> Stuckey/Scola
4) anyone have any other suggestions???
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| 148 | bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 15:08
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Other option that I am now leaning to is
Foye/Bargnani --> Stuckey/Bonner.
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| 149 | qwert
ID: 188411214
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 15:47
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bd, do you have a plan for the excess money if you get stuckey and bonner?
I probably like that move best, but only if the money's going to good use.
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| 150 | C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:08
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Do you guys think I should drop Daniels today for Stucky and lose the game or take the 3 Daniels games vs. 2 Stucky games? I really torn.
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| 151 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:16
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that's the 64 million dollar question.
I think I would, but I don't really know.
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| 152 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:19
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i did, if that helps
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| 153 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:41
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Camby or Randolph from Bosh?
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| 154 | C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:50
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Randolph
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| 155 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:12
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150
My general rule on whether to take two games as opposed to three before the schedule advantage actually kicks in is if the player with two games is clearly better, and may outscore the other player even giving up a game, go ahead and do it.
Stuckey figures to make A LOT of money because numerous players trade into him---Daniels, Foye, Duhon, Chandler and Augustin (305 soles held on until the bitter end).
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| 156 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:18
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I like Camby although Zach has been very good lately with Kaman out. It may depend on money needs this week as neither is likely to be a long term hold. I think Camby may make a little more money but could be wrong.
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| 157 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:26
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thanks guys. went with camby.
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| 158 | Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 03:02
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Am I naive in thinking that there won't be a big Hawes sell-off this week?
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| 159 | bd
ID: 389151123
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 07:07
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | qwert-215 | 2524.5 | 150.5 | 2524.5 | 14 | 62.86 | 4.40 | 58.46 | 0.29 | 4 | | 2 | twolves-128 | 2462 | 109.5 | 2462 | 108 | 59.29 | 3.01 | 56.28 | -0.01 | 4 | | 3 | Coach Bird-983 | 2449 | 133.5 | 2449 | 113 | 59.44 | 1.38 | 58.06 | 0.38 | 5 | | 4 | dpr-315 | 2431 | 168.5 | 2431 | 71 | 60.79 | 4.15 | 56.64 | 0.34 | 4 | | 5 | Comic Book Guy-1245 | 2358.5 | 172.5 | 2358.5 | 3 | 59.00 | 0.73 | 58.27 | 0.23 | 3 | | 6 | Maineac-277 | 2335 | 120.5 | 2335 | 480 | 53.51 | 2.83 | 50.68 | -0.12 | 4 | | 7 | DrD-966 | 2199.5 | 116.5 | 2199.5 | 836 | 54.18 | 4.56 | 49.62 | 0.06 | 4 | | 8 | bd-967 | 2169.5 | 167.5 | 2169.5 | 645 | 54.34 | 6.14 | 48.20 | 0.32 | 4 | | 9 | wolfer-1899 | 2129 | 97 | 2129 | 209 | 55.26 | 0.42 | 54.84 | 0.03 | 6 |
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| 160 | bd
ID: 299112113
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 15:15
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Okafor to Duncan today for me. Granger will probably go after tonight's game and I am looking at Ming.
That would leave me with 2 trades. I think I'll hold Paul and want a trade in case Hawes needs to go.
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