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0 Subject: Kentucky Indians GMD team -- TP2

Posted by: ki @ work
- [2836246] Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 16:32

It is a long season. If I remember right, last year I was on the team that won the first trading period and ended up finishing third or forth.

I have PURPOSELY not sent out a private group e-mail after I asked for all your emails. After thinking about it, I decided that I think that would defeat one of the primary goals of starting GMD. GMD should continue to encourage dialogue on how this game is played. There is no prize for winning GMD, just personal pride. If the other teams learn something from how we play... GREAT. We need more people to play and they way I have always learned was listening/reading the posts of the the best players in the game... Look at the Hall of Fame! We are the best players in the world! It is a great blessing to be able to have the best share there thoughts! If people feel differently, I will be glad to get a forum for "private dialogue" started.

For me playing with all of you is an honor and a privilege. I hope you are enjoying it as much as I am.

ki
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118money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 23:26
Just trying to keep ya humbled...LOL
119kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 09:55
I think his last two games might have made this trade Kevin Durant day???

And T-Gun and Guru... you have me thinking of skipping the dinged up Wade and moving Durant right into Chris Paul today.
121kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 10:59
for $0.50M players.... that are not named Casspi... how about Dorell Wright??
122Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 11:20
I'm a tad short for both Wade & Paul if I wanted out of Durant in a 1 for 1
I assume however that he will bleed big today
You know, If I went Duncan instead of Nash yesterday ;)
123G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 11:29
How about doing it today?
124Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 12:42
Durant to Duncan?
125money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:08
SOB! Was gonna move Durant to Paul. Guess I'll hold Durant then
126money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 14:09
Paul not having a huge day. Good
127G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 15:33
Yes Durant to Duncan. Seems like a good $ maker as and chance for pts
128money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 15:41
Durant is stuck @ G on my team. I don't have a G/F in my forward slot to make a Duncan move. Another sign I should keep Durant.
130G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 17:35
Oh, I was just looking at the todays stats above and your team had Durant at F. Sorry.
131money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 17:40
Paul tweaked his ankle today, so at least I didn't get him. He's ok I guess, but that wouldn't make me feel too good. I thought Durant was in my F's also. Ugh
132Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 21:44
Time for me to lose RV. In spite of Durant's last 3 crappy games. I decided to hold and take my extra game. Got another way into Duncan on Wed. Gonna hold Ariza through most of next week and take it in the shorts on his money losses. We'll see if patience is a virtue or if I'm just gonna fall. Curse you Marcus Camby, you screwed me again! Peace
133money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 21:53
I'm with ya. I have Durant and Ariza also and will have to hold. None of my trade options today worked, so I'll just pray for some good games from them both next week.
134G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 22:09
Everyone has to play their team their own way but I would caution you about taking a "stand" in December. I moved Durant, Love and Ariza yesterday and it was a very hard choice to make because those guys have been solid. My 3 trades projected to produce far less than the 40 pts per trade I would hope for per trade but the money gained/saved now will payoff over the next 3 months
137money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 00:02
That's been my problem the past two years. I hit a wall last year about this time because of the same short-sighted planning (having Durant as a G and no way into another position for one example). I need to focus on RV only next week before I waste away.
Tomorrow morning after the new standing are posted in this thread, I'm gonna put my roster up and ask (beg) for some ideas. Gotta hope at this point that I won't lose too much the next few days.
138kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 00:02
M4L,
Went Durant to Paul to day FOR THE MONEY!! I am thinking after Paul's performance today that I may regret Durant's 4 games vs. Paul's 3.

You are playing great! Keep it UP. You say that you "hit a wall last year." Don't let "hitting a wall" cost you a season! PLAY THROUGH the wall! Everyone has rough weeks... This is a marathon not a sprint. My best team (so far!) this year got hit with Larry Hughes and Karl Landry this week... Save up the trades so you can deal with that and PLAY through IT!

I STILL need to learn when to make better decisions about when I play for money and when I play for points! I tend to play for points too early and get stuck with low RV.

Learn from someone other than me!
139money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 00:04
If I had got home this morning in time, I would have gone to Paul. Durant lost 160k and Ariza only lost 20k. I still made 100k overall, so it could have been far worse.
140kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 00:14
Footnote.....

My best team traded Brook Lopez to Pau Gasol yesterday. I think that was a fabulous move!

Buying Lopez on December 2 was a fabulous move, made even better transitioning into Pau. I would like to tell you that when I bought him on December 2 that I was thinking about "transitioning" into Pau who I believe was fresh off the DL at the time. Not what happened for me....

Make your plans... Don't get set on them... Continue to plan and change your plans.... HAVE FUN DOING IT! So then you spend time adjusting your plans regular...

Mt red wine tonight is calling me to go to bed! Glad to have every one of you on my team!
141money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 09:29
Here's my plan this week thru 12/29 refresh.

Evans - hold
Ariza - 12/23 > L Williams or 12/27 > ?
Durant - move to Nash today? 12/29 > Paul
Jennings - hold
James - hold
Thompson - hold
Hansbrough - hold
Gasol - 12/29 > Paul
D Lee - 12/23 > Duncan
Przybilla - hold

3.71 in the bank and I know I should fit Duncan and Paul in there.
143Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 12:05
141

Durant to Nash will only net you 350K at the most and won't get you an extra game unless you move that slot to Paul. I wouldn't project Nash's per game to any more than Durant in spite of his lameness the last three. Kinda sucks to do Durant to Nash today, seeing as how you coulda done it yesterday and got 220K. Kinda seems like you should save the trade now.

Is Wade in your plan, could he come from Durant or Gasol?

Personally, I'm holding Gasol long-term and going Durant to Wade. I'm also planning on doing the unpopular (apparently) move of getting Paul from LeBron, his natural trade partner. Don't feel compelled to get in there early.

You can go high or low with Ariza. Personally, I'm looking to go low (CDR if he's healthy) and spend the excess money barbelling my team.

Good luck. Peace
144G
      ID: 81139621
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 13:34
$ for later

Ii think you must first solve your ?'s above. I say that because of this:

If you say barring injury you will use Durant for Paul then your situatuion is this - 4 Durant games and any loss he has $ wise + a saved trade VS 5 Nash, his gains and 1 trade. The unkown is what you will get for pts. For money you can assume you will come out ahead for Nash and you can guesstimate Nash gains to Durant loss.

Durant will have to go at some point Gasol may or may not but he most likely wont be sold prior to the 30th making him the safer hold.
145G
      ID: 441412322
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 21:55
$4ltr not sure what you did but as of tonight, Durant to Nash still looking good and schedule wise that window doesn't close until 12/26. Sure the money changes each day but the potential for pts are still there.
146money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 22:01
I held Durant. Another situation where I wasn't committed to the trade for Nash. The 200k swing will be missed, but I figure I held him so I might as well keep him. I just hope he goes back to the real Durant tomorrow. Thanks for all the ideas and advice.
147money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 23:36
I know the price is right, but Caaspi is doing what I thought he would. He's gonna be real good with the right matchups, but it's not gonna be every night.
148money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 00:07
Surprise, surprise!
Durant unchanged. 6 sells, 6 buys.
Ariza up 60k on 7 buys.

149Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 06:40
Survival! Amazing money day with Durant taking no losses and Ariza and Love actually MAKING caish. Didn't really get hurt by anyone I didn't have and starting tomorrow I gots game-advantage Baby! Patience has worked the last two days, we'll see if performance can pay me off over the next 3. Peace
151Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 17:20
Well Didn't I paint myself into a corner
I knew there was a reason that I wanted to hold Durant instead of -> Duncan

plan this week was Deng->Beasley & Nash->Paul
but some idiot grabbed Duncan leaving this as a Guard only move!

Deng must go after refresh...So...I've either got 5500 or so for a Guard and No Beasley.

or...I can can add Love and pick up a 6700 Guard
or...Add either Galinari or Hansbrough and get cheapie Guard
152money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 20:54
David Lee - hate to trade him the way he's playing, but should I? Amazingly, he's only at 5% ownership. Move him to Duncan or hold? It would allow me to finally move one of my G/F's to a F spot and set up some easier trading.
153deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 21:03
-Intruder-

How does selling Lee for Duncan free up a F spot?

Just curious...

BTW lee has 42.5 now, halfway third.
154kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 21:09
M4L,
Definitely HOLD David Lee till 12/31.
155Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 21:24
Well, the reason to trade Lee for Duncan, apart from the fact that Duncan will make money, is a two game advantage of a better player. No reason to sell Lee, but if he's your way into Duncan then ya might have to. I aint gonna be Duncanless while everyone else has him...
156money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 21:29
153 - had more to post, but deleted it by mistake. Have another trade that'll work with the Duncan deal.
158money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 22:11
Przybilla just changed my priority. Beasley or Haywood look like the only good ones, but J Howard for 500k could free up mucho cash. I'll have approx. 5.8 mil to spend at any position.
159money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 00:30
Third option is M Williams (CLE)
160Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 01:14
Beasley gonna make a Butt-load of money...
161deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 06:44
KI check your mail please...
162Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 08:14
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

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Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

LSWP5

WWR

FV

Cash

RV

FVC

Trades

1 k-G-10188729 5320.5 108 2799.5 16 67.45 2.34 65.11 -0.02 5
2 k-Dave R-10016105 5280 154.5 2738 44 67.45 4.83 62.62 0.15 5
3 k-Phatsow-10367913 5275 247.5 2810.5 32 66.31 4.25 62.06 0.31 9
4 k-money4later-10023470 5239 179 2843 72 62.79 3.71 59.08 0.19 5
5 k-Headless T Gunners-10278243 5224 189.5 2741 94 63.13 2.11 61.02 0.13 4
6 k-Guru-10002682 5050.5 192 2658 132 64.88 3.14 61.74 0.12 5
7 k-soetal1-10062956 4997 222.5 2725.5 264 61.35 4.20 57.15 -0.04 3
8 k-Maineacs-10024830 4793.5 108 2475.5 403 58.93 0.55 58.38 0.06 4
9 k-Kentucky Indians-10431014 4688 139.5 2591 378 59.98 1.25 58.73 -0.09 7
10 k-DrD-10854736 4527 264 2325.5 782 55.45 0.65 54.80 0.29 4



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163Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 08:32
Very poor TP for me. Having Durant and no Gasol was biggest problem. Heavy schedule for me today so if I end up back here I'll make up for a bad day yesterday.
164Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 08:56
Camby/Dunleavy=>Duncan/Beasley today. With any luck, I won't need to trade again until Chris Paul day (12/29).
165money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 09:30
Just went Przybilla > Beasley.

I also (with any luck) won't have any other trades until 12/29/09. Hope the rest of teams' patellas hold up...
166Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 09:35
I'm kind of pissed. No trades to make ;) No way into Beasley.
167Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 10:16
I'll miss Beasley too. But I'm LOVIN' my team right now. Survived the last 3 days. Time to make some M.O.N.E.Y...
168Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 13:10
Deng/Hansbrough -> Beasley/Watson
169G
      ID: 81139621
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 14:46
Just 1 trade of Dunleavey to a guard undecided upon then like others hoping to enjoy watching games like Kobe VS Lebron with no trades until 12/29 when Nash to Paul.
170money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 15:16
Ariza & Hans - leaning against this but...

Trade away Ariza after tonight if throws up another stinker? (Ownership dangerously high)

Is it extremely inefficient to trade Hans right now to D Wright? Or better to hold him thru 1/5 or later?

I have 4 trades and RV of 62.79 (a little low). Both would make me more cash, but is it wasting trades? Would give me approx. 6.4 mil to use on Ariza's replacement.
171Skip To My Lou
      ID: 309332713
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 17:29
Good to be back with a team that's a bit less shambolic. Already went Dunleavy ---> Beasley. Holding Durant and Casspi, but nervous about both.

Do we have an official team position on Juwon Howard (Mich, '94)?
172money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 18:34
171 - I'll second that question. I just penciled in Hans > D Wright, but if Howard is the better move, I'm game.
173Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 18:51
I have a choice as well-though mine must be a guard
I could have Wright but went with Watson in Indy
what do we think of that
174money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 19:03
Only reason I passed on Watson today was because he doesn't play until Saturday.
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