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Subject: Ultimate Hoops Rosters [UPDATED]
Posted by: Hang Time
- [27922621] Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 16:43
The other Ultimate Hoops Roster thread is getting a bit too cluttered and off topic. I think it is important that people get back to the discussion at hand: rosters (good or bad?).
Here's mine:
G: Maggette, Corey
G: Hamilton, Richard (might need to change)
G: Russell, Bryon (might need to change)
G: Alexander, Courtney (might need to change)
F: Garnett, Kevin
F: Webber, Chris
F: Miles, Darius
F: Gooden, Drew
C: Stepania, Vladimir
C: Collins, Jarron
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| 265 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 21:59
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I would look into Bobby Jackson to head up your sorry G's. It is tough going with G's that weak...but I guess your F's justify that.
THK
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| 266 | Rand al Thor
ID: 83231216
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 22:45
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LOL! Hey Smackdown, good luck this year. I trust you realize my post was not meant to be mean-spirited, I mean, I said you had a big heart...that's gotta count for something. Your team looks pretty interesting, hope it works for you. Oh, and there really is no need to post your web site, or anything like that, I know as much as I need to. Peace, bro.
My grampa always told me: 'Just cuz you don't like raisins, doesn't mean you won't like toasted raisin bread with butter.' Oh yeah, words to live by.
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| 267 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:22
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why is are people so high on GINO. he has done nothig in the PRESEASON.
am i mising something???
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| 268 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:36
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263 Smackdown
Non-Donor
ID: 51054300
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 21:44
Satterfield has done nothing this preseason and Denver just traded for Chris Whitney.
Also, look at Jaric's minute/TSNP ratio: When you adjust the points for the minutes he will actually get, you are looking at 12 tsnp/g.
GrEEr - Perhaps people are high on Gino due to his projected averages on rotowire. If you run those numbers, he will come up as your 4th guard every time.
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| 270 | Y2JS
ID: 54913237
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:37
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For the love of god stop talking about Kenny Satterfield
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| 271 | NickJYD
ID: 309142412
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 02:41
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Why stop talking about Satterfield??...he and Arenas...and actually Jelani McCoy too...they all put up nice numbers tonight.
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| 272 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 11:58
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joe suspect
Goodpoint on the Guards! Be certain I will make a Guard Overhaul! In fact I may even back one Forward up and get a Stud guard. I also feel I may want to start the season with a roster close to the Norm pick-up players. Scoop up some good cash gain in that first day of price moves then feel what Cheapies I want to move to. Otherwise it is so hard to tell from Preseason. Kind of like lotto numbers.
Rand al Thor
Ya I did not take it in a bad way...Just very surprised to see 3 different people mention my name..I had no idea I was that popular. Bottom line is I will not respond to mean spirited or rude post this year. All that does is fuel them. I am here to talk B Ball. Nothing like reading a thread and then you run into 20 post all about an Arguing match. NOTE: I see the post still have arguments without me. I guess it was not just me, yet the nature of opinions in the threads?
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| 273 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 12:53
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NickJYD
Ya I have not seen him play yet...I just wanted to get my forwards then fill in the rest with cheapies and see what cash I had left over. Then I will take what is left and try to get the best for that amount..like a Bobby Jackson.
See I feel I like to go with Cheapies that are going to be starters. I like to get cheapies that will get the minuets that way I have a better chance of getting my 20 TSN's for a guy that cost 500 K. I think if you can get guys for that amount with that production then it is a slamdunk for point per K. Then spend your money on the studs that are the best points per K and have a great schedule as well.
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| 274 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 15:03
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I posted this on the other threads...so forgive me for the double posts. But just would like to hear some opinions on this.
Anyone have an opinon on Dan Gadzuric from Milwauekee when this guy has gotten the minutes he has really produced. He is actually averaging more points on average then McCoy. Does anyone know more about this guy and the center situation in Milwaukee?
Also anyone know what the deal is with Danny Fortson?. This guy was a monster on the boards a few years back? Just wondering where he is and if there is any chance he will cut into T-Murf's(lets see if the nickname sticks :) )minutes
Finally What are people deciding to do with Miles?. His overall schedule to start the year is great, making him a good long term hold...but does his 1 in 5 during the first week, keep him off most opening day roster?...
Thanks
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| 275 | Mark L
Leader
ID: 4444938
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 15:14
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I hope my more knowledgeable buddy Skip corrects any errors in this post, but I think Gadzuric is a very intriguing pick. Przybilla is out for at least the first couple weeks of the season. Ervin Johnson is probably the only other player on the roster capable of defending the post and he is really showing his age. (Never has had any offensive game of any kind.) The thing that worries me most about Gadzuric is Karl's traditional disdain for rookies. But with Ervin being so ineffective I'm not sure Karl has much choice but to give Gadzuric significant (20+) minutes, at least at the start of the season (unfortunately the Bucks' early schedule is crap). I have seen a couple of references in the Milw. papers to the effect that Mason will take the other team's 5 on defense, but I find it hard to believe that could be anything other than disinformation.
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| 276 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 19:28
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What does anyone think about Ricky Davis at the G? Another player I have not heard much about is Rookie Mike Dunleavy?
I know Davis has been rolling, but Leavy? Any word on how he has done this preseason?
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| 277 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 19:36
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He's getting better, but I doubt he will see as mnay minutes as he did during the preseason.
Dunleavy
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| 278 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 19:53
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Heres something I put together:
Payton, Arenas, B. Jackson, Giricek
Duncan, Garnett, Gooden, K. Brown
McCoy, EMPTY
1.26 left
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| 279 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:36
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Micheal
Denver's Center? He will get you 20 TSN a game?
B Jack...Hmmm what about spending that cash on Billips or Ricky Davis?
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| 280 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:38
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joe suspect
I read he is starting..how will that diminish his minuets?
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| 281 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:44
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WOW Howard suspeneded for first 2 games...that is a good 8 boards and 20 pts a game to go to someone else...the Denver options starting to look a lot better
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| 282 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:53
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Why is everyone so high on Blount. Granted I haven't seen him play, but his numbers are nothing special. He has 62 points in 140 minutes. Woods has 120.5 in 137 minutes. Bradley has 173.5 in 136 minutes.
What is Mark Blounts appeal?
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| 283 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:13
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Smackdown
Why not Jackson? I did a little research because I thought that I missed something, but Bibby is still out for the first month of the season, he has more points than Billups or Davis (he has played more minutes though), is cheaper and plays for SAC who has one of the best schedules to start. Where is the downside to Jackson? Or better yet, what does Davis or Billups have on Jackson?
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| 284 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:14
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Smackdown -- just a hunch. I think that they gave him extra minutes in the preseason to evaluate him b/c they already knew what they had with Battier and Person/Dickerson and the 2/3 position.
Look at his minutes/tsnp ratio: It is subpar. The only way West allows a rookie to get 36m/g is if he was the 2nd coming of West himself.
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| 285 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:19
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If your talking about Dunleavy he plays for GS not MEM.
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| 286 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:26
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I am having a tough time deciding between Billups or Arenas. This is a tough one I think. I may split the difference and go Arenas on 1 and Billups on 1...Right now I have Billups on both.
What do you guys think?
THK
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| 287 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:37
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Arenas all the way. Good schedule, don't have to use a trade. His numbers are better 225 points in 221 minutes as opposed to Billups 114 points to 137 minutes. Arenas avg more than a point a minute for a million less.
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| 288 | p...
ID: 1545375
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:06
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THK,
I would say put Arenas on both teams.
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| 289 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:13
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Wow monster game for Miles...and good game for Gadzuric two guys I have bene hyping the last few days. If Gadzuric schedule was better he might be the best 500k center!
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| 290 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:16
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Micheal
Ya you are right. I had just read many post where people were not on the B Jack wagon and I though I would ask why or why not. I think he will be a great option even though he is not an assist getter not to mention his team has many big guys that pass the ball well. Ricky Davis!!!!! I hear nothing on him and he is below the mid range pricing for a guard. I think Arenas is a hit but a little more expensive than what I wanted to see him at. Billips is going to be a wait and see deal.
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| 291 | p...
ID: 1545375
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:33
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I think Arenas is a great option in the 3-6 mil range! Check out his preseason stats
Especially looking at his minutes column. His averages are quite good for the amount of minutes hes been playing in preseason and he also has a nice 3 week sched.
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| 292 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:36
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Isn't Ricky Davis listed as a forward?
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| 293 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:59
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jedman
You are right he is! He does not play that Position! He was listed at the Guard spot last year in TSN. His own team has him listed at Guard.
Take a look link
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| 294 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 00:07
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I'm sure he will be listed as a guard eventually after he plays enough games there, just can't draft him as a guard.
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| 295 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 00:34
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I want to free up some cash at the forward spot but I cannot come to terms with releasing CWebb, KG, or TD. I want all of them. Here is the reason why: If I buy just KG and TD then Webb will bust a 70-point night. If I take KG and Webb then TD will blow up for a 70-point night and so on! So I was thinking.... Ya I know..... Anyways...What players are the most consistent or have the highest % of getting a 60 - 70 point night. Hmmm...TD, Webb, KG, A Miller, Kidd. Those I think are the top 5? Of course occasionally T-Mac, Kobe, Pierce, and shaq when he plays. Of course there are others like GP, The Funk, Brand, Iverson, Francis (When he is playing), B Davis, Wallace, ect..... I guess I am trying to point out that the 5 mentioned above could probably hands down beat any assembled team. Just fill in the other positions with the cheapest for the buck players. Granted no one can afford that right now but I have gone with Hill, TD, KG, and Webb at the forward spot. My guards are Ward (I like this sleeper), arenas, and two of the cheapies around. Round out the centers with another two 500k players and there is my team.
Feel free to let me know if I am cracked in the head?
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| 296 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 01:36
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The thing with Arenas is that when Bobby Sura comes back you can cut at least 10 minutes from his playing time... that being said I think his schedule and his defensive skills make him a good option...Just when you cut it down would we want 35 from 5 mill guy or 15-20 from a 500K one that is the dilema
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| 297 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 02:36
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GINO is finialy showing some thing,eh.
Jarick and him may be decent options after after all.
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| 298 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 02:45
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Gino's 15 minutes...doesnt impress me...for some reason I think he might be a minutes victim
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| 299 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 03:01
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i've been skeptical of GINO all season, after his to high light real plays and world's play, i'll role with him to start.
OK......... WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH WEBBER.....???
he is the on;y option i'm strugleing with, NE 1 have ne INFO ON HIM???
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| 300 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 03:30
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I remember in the free league last year where I had about the same team as another member of my division. Well he had KG, TD and a 2.5 mil center (NJ), Tinsley at Guard along with Chi Guard G Anthony. We had identical teams other than a difference in our centers.
My point here is that after December and January had gone by I noticed he had not made a trade since late November. His team was inactive –abandoned. Yet he was only 2-3 hundred points behind me and I was using trades like crazy where he had over 16 saved because he had an inactive team. He was even getting DNP’s from Anthony out with injuries. But he had the two best players you could buy at the time..KG and TD!! Webb was hurt so it made an easy decision. I look back at that and realize that I wasted trades chasing either big money movers or having to sell after changing my cash over to the center spot to get Shaq only to have him miss another game ect… What a waste! I was so fed up with Shaq always sitting for whatever reason. Of course I realize you do not want to run your team like that always because you need to trade to earn cash, but I feel I should spend the cash on the big dogs and fill out the rest with cheapies.
Anyone agree?
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| 301 | p...
ID: 1545375
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 06:34
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Heres My Dillema and i'll see if anyone can help me.
For the first two weeks of the season, would it be better to have
Gilbert Arenas and
Grant Hill
with 1.1 mil in the bank
or
Kobe Bryant and
Drew Gooden
with .12 mil in the bank
or
Tracy McGrady and
Kwame Brown
with .22 mil in the bank
Its a tough decision for me, Any preferences? or suggestions?
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| 302 | Scrambled Eggs
ID: 54829225
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 09:45
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P... I'd go with your second combo for two reasons; first of all, Gooden has showed some great potential in the preseason. Even though he might get less minutes, he is still a very good option to make some money. Second reason is that I think that Kobe will put up some numbers with Shaq out. I don't like Kobe personally, but with the strong schedule LA has, it seems to be a good pick.
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| 303 | p...
ID: 1545375
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 09:56
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Scrambled Eggs,
Thats very true. Too bad kobe has that 1 in 6 starting week 2! I would probably have to sell him on 11/9 if I do draft him.
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| 304 | Scrambled Eggs
ID: 54829225
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 10:07
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LA comes back with a very nice schedule after that though (29 games in first 2 months together), so you could decide to sit out 9-11 'till 15-11, to save a trade. But I could imagine that you wouldn't want that much $$$ on the bench that long.
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| 305 | Jupiter
ID: 469172522
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 10:38
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Comments
Payton,Arenas,Palicio,B Jackson
Garnett,Nowitzi,D Miles, K Brown
J Mccoy, Garzuric
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| 306 | p...
ID: 1545375
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 11:12
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Is anyone else concerned by Grant Hills not-so-great preseason in which he averaged 25 TSNP in 26 minutes!?
It has made me think twice about drafting him. What about everybody else? are you still planning to have him on your opening day rosters?
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| 307 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 12:57
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Re: 284...somehow I got confused and started talking about Giricek, not Dunleavy...
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| 308 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 15:32
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Ok guys, EVALUATE MY ROSTERS:
Team 1 (stud/cheepie approach)
G Jackson, Bobby $4,040,000
G Hudson, Troy $3,880,000
G Jaric, Marko $500,000
G Ginobili, Emmanuel $500,000
F Duncan, Tim $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin $11,100,000
F Webber, Chris $10,660,000
F Miles, Darius $5,610,000
C Woods, Loren $860,000
C McCoy, Jelani $500,000
$250,000 in the bank.
NOTE: i know i'll probably lose out on some of the cheap Foward money trains. But this will be huge for points. I think the GAURD position will price move even more (people will be going with stud foards). THIS ROSTER WILL SAVE HUGE ON TRADES.
Team 2 (more ballanced)
G McGrady, Tracy $9,750,000
G Arenas, Gilbert $4,940,000
G Jackson, Bobby $4,040,000
G Palacio, Milt $1,110,000
F Duncan, Tim $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin $11,100,000
F Murphy, Troy $2,680,000
F Brown, Kwame $2,320,000
C Woods, Loren $860,000
C McCoy, Jelani $500,000
$600,000 in the bank. This should produce tons of points and gain alot of $$$. However i can see my self using alot of trades.
SO ANY ADVICE???
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| 309 | Burnettsville
Donor
ID: 319362319
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 15:48
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greer, IMHO, Team 2 would be better if you went:
Palacio > the 500,000 guard of your choice
Brown > Gooden
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| 310 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 17:03
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mabey, the point of was to have one team staying away formt he .5k gaurds in case they bust.
I want to diversify the teams.
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| 311 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 19:48
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I think you should change your second team because it looks exactly like mine, except for Tmac.
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| 312 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 22:33
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well micheal, looks like it will be a close race in our division.
*my roster will probably change though (i don't usually post my final sets)
NE 1 have new about Webber???
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| 313 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 22:34
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"news"
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| 314 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 23:45
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Don't start correcting your horrendous errors now. "mabey". HAHA
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| 315 | p...
ID: 1545375
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 00:50
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Troy Murphy going to be the Warriors
opening night starter?
"I would say Troy's earned the starting spot," Musselman said before Friday night's 87-79 loss to the Phoenix Suns at America West Arena, the last of the team's eight preseason games. "He's just done a really good job."
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