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0 Subject: PROFL Experts League - (part 2)

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 17:40

Time to start a second thread on this. See this thread for the background, rules, and commentary on the first 3 rounds.

I'll recap the opening rounds in a moment, but let me start by listing the next 5 picks:

3.11 Rashard Lewis (no supporting comments yet)

3.12 Brent Barry - G: Anyone following roto last year knows what a stud Barry became. Arguably a top 5 player overall. A stud in FT%, FG%, steals and 3's and still a huge plus in assists, boards and scoring with no negative catagories. But the risks are there this season. He's not considered an all-star caliber player and he's not young enough to be expected to develop into one. He also has D.Mason breathing down his neck for minutes. But it's not like he's going to turn into a part time player and his 3's and shooting percentages should remain high even if he falls off a bit in everything else.

4.01 D.Mutombo - C: I'm still reeling from the run of PG's over the last 12 picks. I was banking on either Stockton/Cassell or even Marbury at this pick but the run has forced me to change strategies instead of reaching. Looking at my team I still need rebounds and blocks and Deke is a top 10 player in both. He also shoots well enough for a big man to keep me at or near the top of the league in the FT% and FG% catagories (so fart). We'll need some assists eventuallyt but Deke will fill a couple of voids for now.

4.02 Michael Finley (no comments yet)

4.03 Glenn Robinson, F: I expect Robinson to put up numbers similar to the ones he offered Fantasy owners last season. He is joining an Atlanta team that is loaded with offensive weapons, but Milwaukee also had a lot of options. Despite the perception that all Robinson is strictly a shooter I see him helping out in the other major categories as well.
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102WeBeJammin
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:13
I can't find the info anywhere on the net. If you want I'll help you check game by game. I'll start at the end of the season and work back.
103Guru
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:14
8.10 Mike Bibby, G: Bibby was a huge disappointment last season, posting only 13.7 PPG and 5.0 APG in the Kings potent offense. Add to this, his preseason surgery on a fractured right foot and it's understandable why a point guard of his stature has dropped this far. Nonetheless, we feel this is a great spot to grab the 5th year guard. When healthy, Bibby will prove to be a steal as our 4th guard.

104Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:15
WBJ - thanks, but this is a bigger issue than just for Keon Clark. We're going to need a commissioner's ruling.
105Comeback Kid
      ID: 23946239
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:23
I just took Swift in the 9th round in Dirty Dozen, he certainly has the most upside potential of any other center, especially if he gets traded (or Wright gets hurt).
106WeBeJammin
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:25
Guru, just so you know, Keon Clark started at C in the following games last season:
4/17
4/16
4/14
4/12
3/19
3/17
3/12
3/10
3/8
3/7

Didn't check further back than that.
107Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:26
Thanks.
108Comeback Kid
      ID: 23946239
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:33
I just took Swift at 9.06 in the dirty dozen. He has the most upside potential of any of those other guys, especially if he gets traded. Very strong preseason.
109Comeback Kid
      ID: 23946239
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 13:43
whoops, you heard me the first time . . .
110Guru
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:15
8.11 Stromile Swift, F/C: In limited minutes last year, Swift averaged nearly 12 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and one steal a game. Moreover, he shot for .480 from the fields and over 70 percfent from the line. Swift is only 23, and still has room to develop. Moreover, I suspect with the emergence of Gasol and Gooden, Swift will be traded and allowed to develop on another team. If Swift only produces like he did last year, he is an excellent all-around pick for a center at the end of round eight. With marginal improvement, he vaults into one of the top five center spots.
111Comeback Kid
      ID: 23946239
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:22
Looking at your team Guru, I recomend Snow and Clark.
112Guru
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:29
Snow, definitely. Do you think Clark will log enough minutes?
113Mike D
      Donor
      ID: 4372378
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:39
Questionable how many Clark gets, but he'll produce when he plays. Snow is a lock for big minutes and seems to finally be healthy. Plus he has more weapons around him this year.
114Ref
      ID: 28045169
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:41
I also like Rodney Rogers.
115Comeback Kid
      ID: 23946239
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 16:43
Minutes is a definite concern. I figure he'll play 20 minutes (like he did last night), and then when (not if) Webber gets hurt he looks real good. He was awesome last year when AD was injured. Plus, I imagine Divac will be used somewhat sparingly so he can be fresh for battling Shaq or Duncan/Robinson in the postseason. It also seems like you could use one more shot blocker.

That said, taking the best available player might not be a bad idea either. I agree with the guy who mentioned Troy Murphy among the BAPs here, as hard as I find it to believe that he could be any good, that 21 rebound game is hard to ignore. No guts no glory.
116Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 17:27
8.12 Eric Snow, G

9.01 Keon Clark, C

Comments later, but after hemming and hawing, how risky is it to bet on meaningful downtime for Webber and Divac?

I couldn't see Murphy at this pick, however. Even if he produces his preseason averages, it seems too early - especially without center elig.

Here's the round 8 recap:
8.01 Connors Latrell Sprewell, G, NYK
8.02 Langendorf Jamaal Magloire, C, NO
8.03 McRae Tim Thomas, F, MIL
8.04 Gentles Brian Grant, F, MIA
8.05 McLaughlin Butler, F MIA
8.06 Georgopoulos PJ Brown, F, NO
8.07 Fitzpatrick R. Miller, G,Ind
8.08 Chizzik M. Peterson, F, Tor
8.09 Slight A. McKie, G, PHI
8.10 Slotnick - M. Bibby, G (SAC)
8.11 Ludwig - S. Swift, F/C, Mem
8.12 Hall – E. Snow, G, Phi

9.01 Hall - K. Clark, C, Sac

117Mike D
      Donor
      ID: 5918285
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 17:49
Again love the picks Guru. I feel Snow and Clark were much better than Murphy (among others). The long wait begins again!
118Guru
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 21:39
9.02 Lamar Odom, F: I both hate this pick and love this pick. I'm not fond of Lamar... he isn't aggressive enough on the court to play up to his abilities and off the court his behavior is at the very least questionable. Moreover, Odom is on the IR and probably won't play for the first four weeks of the season (It wouldn't even suprise me if he was out for the season). Finally, the Clippers have amassed enough young talent to seriously affect Odom's playing time. All that being said, I still have to look at Odom's stats from two years ago of 17 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 70 steals, 122 blocks, and 80 threes. Lamar is only 23 years old, and still has time to come around. Considering the other players left (things are getting pretty slim), this pick will not break my team. But a healthy and productive Lamar Odom could make my team.

9.03 Anthony Mason, F: With Glenn Robinson now in Atlanta, we expect Mason to improve on his scoring (9.6 PPG) this season and should average somewhere in the neighborhood of 8-9 RPG. Mase is a guy that does a liitle bit for you in every area and won't hurt you.


9.04 Ron Artest – G/F

9.05 Charlie Ward, G: Ward takes over as the Knick's full-time point guard this year and if he playes the minutes, he should get solid assists, threes, and steals. The Knicks will be terrible, but we feel Ward will be a more valuable player for a fantasy team than a real team.

119Mike D
      Donor
      ID: 5918285
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 21:40
Charlie Ward? What?
120Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 21:42
Catching up on comment for prior McLaughlin picks:

J. Stackhouse- We feel Stack is a solid pick here because of his improvement in his overall game last year. His scoring dropped off but all of his other totals climbed and his team got remarkably better. We expect that playing with his idol will only make him want to prove he's even more ready to come to play every night.

A. Houston- This is a risky pick, but it's a calculated risk. Houston has trouble creating his own shot, so the losses of McDyess (for the season) and Sprewell (for God knows how long) will hurt in that area. On the plus side, we all know that the lone scorer on a bad team will be allowed to get his points because the opposing team nkows that if it stops everyone else, the scorer can't win the game alone.

K. Kittles- If anyone on the Nets wants to kiss Jason Kidd on the mouth for what he did for the team last year, they're lining up behind Kerry. JK's starting backcourt mate was left for dead on what now appears to be the road to Damascus (Biblical reference: Saul became Paul). Now, after a year of getting used to his knee and his team's leader, He'll be back to running the floor with abandon, his specialty.

C. Butler- The most NBA-ready of all the rookies has gotten preseason comparisons to Paul Pierce (wow) and, along with Eddie Jones, provides his team with probably it's only true scoring threats. Plus, he rebounds well for his position and manages to get a few steals as well.

121Guru
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      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 22:39
9.06 Kwame Brown, F: Kwame had a great pre-season and a great opening night and I'm a Wizards fan. I've liked this kid from the beginning. He's getting used to the NBA game and should be able to average 8-10 RPG this season as a starter. He's gotten a lot more confidence and could have a breakout season.
122Guru
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      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 07:39
9.07 Marcus Camby, C: I was hoping to grab Lamar Odom or Bibby in this round, as I felt this was an appropriate spot for the players who are on the IR who could contribute the second half of the season. But Camby is also a good risk. While notoriously fragile, he is also undeniably talented-- capable of 10+ boards, close to 2 blocks, 1 steal and 11 points a game. Were he healthy, he'd be a top 5 center.
123Guru
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      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 09:38
Published comments for my last two picks:

8.12 Eric Snow, G: This was an easy pick at this stage. Snow is healthy, and has a good supporting cast around him. I see no reason not to expect a repeat performance of 6-7 assists and 1.5 steals per game, along with above-average FT shooting and a few boards. If he delivers those numbers, he’s worthy of a pick about 20 spots higher than #96.

9.01 Keon Clark, C: If Keon can get the minutes, he could be a great pick. Even if his minutes lag, he’s center-eligible, and one of the few shot blockers remaining – which gives him scarcity value on both counts. But his playing time may depend on Chris Webber’s durability and Vlade Divac’s stamina. It’s not a stretch to assume that Webber has several outages, and that Divac is rested more than in the past. If so, Clark could really deliver.
124Aris
      ID: 56710623
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 13:22
Marcus Camby !!!

Zo and Ewing have a bigger chance of playing this season.
125Farn
      Donor
      ID: 7822711
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 13:23
is that a typo guru? did someone just use their 9th round pick on camby?
126Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 13:34
No typo.

9.08 skipped
9.09 Tyson Chandler, F
127Guru
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      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 14:06
9.08 Vin Baker,F/C: A lot of people are already knocking this pick, but We're hoping you'll be knocking your heads together after this season. Baker put up 14 and 6.4 last year in an environment he wasn't comfortable in at all. Now, in his favorite NBA city (he was born in Connecticut and went to Hartford), we think he's capable of a 16 and 8 season despite the preseason gloom and doom. We also realize we need a center and feel he's the best option left.

9.10 Troy Murphy, F:- Murphy should blossom in his second seaosn now that he is the starting power forward. He won't dominate, but should be steady in the points, rebounds, blocks, and percentage categories.

128Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 16:38
Vin Baker's eligibility at center has been challenged. Meanwhile...

9.11 Richard Jefferson, F: Jefferson is expected to step in and more or less replace Keith Van Horn in the Nets' lineup, but -- at least in fantasy terms -- I think he can do even more. He isn't the outside shooter KVH is, but Jefferson has nearly as much scoring and rebounding potential, plus he'll shoot a better percentage from the floor and offer more in the blocks and steals categories. Regardless of how he measures up to Van Horn, Jefferson should give me plenty of bang for my ninth-round buck.

9.12 Q.Richardson - G: Utterly shocked to still find Q on the board at this point. With Odom out for awhile and Miles having moved on, Q moves into the starting line-up and should have no problem drastically increasing last years 26 mpg. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him hit for 18 ppg, 160 3's, 6 rpg and 1.5 steals based on the increased minutes, projected from last years numbers.

10.01 N.Hilario - C/F: Could be a bit of a reach but the Centers are thinning out and he does qualify as one. All reports out of Denver have been positive for the huge 20 year old who already has an NBA body. With Camby out and Denver thin up front he should get his minutes and improve as the season progresses. I expect him to have no problem rebounding and to block the odd shot. Anything else is gravy. After watching Gasol excel unexpectedly last year, taking a chance on Hilario instead of some retread big man is a risk worth taking at this point.
129Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 16:39
10.02 Gordon Giricek, G: I've gotta admit -- I don't know much about the guy. I hear he's an exceptional shooter, and I know there's talk of him leapfrogging Shane Battier in the Grizzlies' rotation. But here's the kicker: Jerry West loves him. And if it's good enough for The Logo, it's good enough for me. Besides, at this point in the draft, there are countless players in line for consistent minutes and who have solid potential. But how many of them could produce like a fourth- or fifth-rounder? Like teammate Pau Gasol was a year ago, Giricek could be an unknown on the brink of stardom.
130Guru
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      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 17:00
10.03 Tony Parker, G: To tell the truth, I'm not too fond of this guy. His assists are low for a point guard and he doesn't have much of an outside shot, but I think he is the best option left at guard at this point. Hopefully his game will mature enough to help my team out.
131Guru
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      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 19:44
10.04 Penny Hardaway, G
132Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 31, 2002, 20:04
Recap of recent activity:

9.01 Hall - Keon Clark, C, SAC
9.02 Ludwig - Lamar Odom, F, LAC
9.03 Slotnick - Anthony Mason, F, MIL
9.04 Slight - Ron Artest, F, IND
9.05 Chizzik - Charlie Ward, G, NYK
9.06 Fitzpatrick - Kwame Brown, F, WAS
9.09 Georgoplous - Marcus Camby, C, DEN
9.08 McLaughlin - Vin Baker, F, BOS
9.09 Gentles - Tyson Chandler, F, CHI
9.10 McRae - Troy Murphy, F, GS
9.11 Langendorf - Richard Jefferson, F, NJ
9.12 Connors - Quentin Richardson, G, LAC

10.01 Connors - Nene Hilario, C, DEN
10.02 Langendorf - Gordon Giricek, G, MEM
10.03 McRae - Tony Parker, G, SA
10.04 Gentles - Penny Hardaway, G, PHO

133Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 12:24
A lot of picks have transpired while the forum was down. Here's the rest of round 10, plus my pick in 11. Comments to follow shortly.

10.05 McLaughlin - Skipped
10.06 Georgopoulos - D. Stoudmaire, G - POR
10.07 Fitzpatrick - - McColluch, C, Phi
10.08 Chizzik - - D. Coleman, F, Phi
10.09 Slight - C. Andersen, C, DEN
10.10 Slotnick - N. Van Exel, G, DAL
10.11 Ludwig - D. Mason, G. Sea
10.12 Hall - M. Miller, G/F, Orl

11.01 Hall - V. Radmanovic, F, Sea
134Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 12:32
Comments:

10.06 Damon Stoudamire , G: To be honest, I was hoping to nab Q. Richardson here. But Mighty Mouse is still a starting PG who produces nice ppg, apg, FT and spg. Very happy to nab someone of Stoudamire's caliber in the 10th round.

10.08 Derrick Coleman - If he can make a speedy recovery, he can make a solid contribution to a fantasy team. Last year he averaged 15 points, 9 boards, a block and shot well from the field and line. We've got out fingers crossed...

10.09 - Chris Andersen, C: After seeing my season pass in front of me with Yao's first game, I need to think about getting a center. This is a considerable stretch, but there's little out there with much upside. Rather than going with a known player with no potential, I'll try an unknown player with unknown potential. Until Camby returns, he shouldn't have much trouble getting some minutes, and hopefully by then Yao will be worth starting.

10.10 Nick Van Exel, G: While the trade that sent Van Exel to the Mavs last year certainly didn't help Nick's fantasy value, he still posted rspectable numbers for the remainder of the season (13.2 PPG, 4.2 APG, 3.1 RPG). Should anything happen to Steve Nash, we have a point guard very capable of stepping in and posting nice fantasy numbers. At the very least, we should get 100 threes, decent free throw percentage (80% for his career) and a handful of points and assists.

10.11 Desmond Mason, G: The best description I've heard about Desmond Mason is "talent bomb, time of detonation unknown". Last year, in limited minutes, Desmond averages 12.4 points, nearly a steal a game, and shot well from the field and from the line. If Brent Barry reverts to form after a stellar year, Desmond will start and his numbers will increase. If not, Barry/Payton/Lewis/Mason will start at a small lineup some games, and by the end of the season one of the four will be traded for a big man.

10.12 Mike Miller, G/F: I’m a little surprised that Mike Miller is still available for the 120th pick. I suppose it is due to the uncertainly in playing time with the return of Grant Hill. Or perhaps his injury problems last year. Either way, his averages last year were worthy of a top 100 pick, and at #120, this seems like a reasonably safe pick with some realistic upside potential. He brings a pretty decent variety stats, headed by upper-echelon 3-point shooting.

11.01 Vladimir Radmanovic, F: Even if he isn’t starting, he seems likely to get significant minutes, especially with Vin Baker 3000 miles away. He should contribute a little of everything (including 3 pointers), but probably won’t dominate any category. His shooting percentages are below average, but I’ve built up a decent surplus in those categories. I consider him to be a work-in-progress who may be a long shot – but that’s what 11th round picks are for.
135Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 14:47
11.02 Scottie Pippen, F: Scottie is no longer anywhere near where he once was as a player. On the Trailblazers, Scottie doesn't even start. However, Scottie is still a fundamentally strong player. Last year, Scottie averaged double figures in points, 5 rebounds, and six assists from the forward spot. Scottie also contributes in steals and blocks. Considering the dearth of talent at this point in the draft, I'm hoping Scottie's play doesn't fall of even further.

11.03 Tyrone Hill, F: He's certainly not a glamorous pick, but Tyrone will get the minutes he needs to post the rebounds our team needs. We expect 10 RPG to go along with 10 PPG, with the hope that Hill can return to his career average of 50% field goal percentage (he was an abominable .390 last season). Rebounds are hard to come by this late in the draft, Hill will fill our stat sheet just fine.


11.04 Tony Delk – G
136Baldwin
      ID: 4261155
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 17:37
Miller has the talent to put up stats like a 5th round pick and may even give them to you for a third of a year but also will spend extended periods when you don't even want to plug him in. I think he has confidence issues. On a team with an extra superstar this year taking minutes from him I would worry about him.
137Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 19:57
11.05 Malik Rose - F: Malik was signed to a huge deal in the offseason and San Antonio wouldn't have done so without the intention of giving him minutes. He played great in the playoffs and can play multiple positions. We are looking for solid rebounds, percentages, and the occasional block from our 11th pick.

11.06 Corey Maggette, G/F

11.07 - Amare Stoudmare, F: While this kid isn't starting yet, he has "star" written all over his game. Last year, my last two picks of the draft-- P. Gasol and B. Barry-- carried the team to the Finals when my top three picks (Webber, Mourning, Camby) all went down with injuries. This is the part of the draft where championships are won or lost; here's hoping Stoudmare can provide us with that little extra push.

138Aris
      ID: 399161218
      Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 21:53
I think that Amare Stoudmire has huge potential, since he's only competing against Jake Tsakalidis anyway. What he can bring from a fantasy perspective besides a few rebounds and blocks is questionable. Even if he beats Eddy Curry's stats from late last season, he won't be a major fantasy player.

I'm surprised that Damon Stoudamire lasted this long. He was by far the best remaining point guard.

Pippen has played only 10min/gm so far.

Guru, I like your picks, but I'm biased because our rankings are probably similar. (Last year I picked Donyell Marshall and Brent Barry, who you also picked.)
139Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 09:33
10.05 Lorenzen Wright,C: Crowded frontcourt in Memphis. Wright's resectable numbers (12ppg, 9.4 rpg, 45.9% FG) make him worthwhile here. He has played well when healthy as a starter and, hopefully at some point, contribute to the Grizz this year.

11.08 Nate Huffman, C: If the only thing holding this guy from a starting spot is Eric Montross, we'll take our chances. 18.8 in Israel doesn't mean much over here, but 39.1% on threes means he has range, and although he won't hit 61% of his shots in the NBA, he will put up solid numbers.

11.09 Emmanuel Ginobili, G
140Mike D
      Donor
      ID: 12105227
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 09:41
Huffman??? The mother of all reaches.
141Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 10:55
Plus, I don't see that Montross has much relevance to Huffman's playing time. Certainly not to his ability to start.

This fantasy league starts 12 players each week, and we're only on round 11, so we aren't necessarily picking bench players yet. Seems as though Huffman could have been postponed to round 16 without much risk - and certainly beyond the 1st 12 rounds.
142Ref
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 11:07
39% from 22' is much different when you're shooting from 23'9"! That was stupid rationale ;)
143miguel p
      ID: 69432712
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 14:13
I agree with Guru's 141, and I thought the same thing about Chris Andersen -- was there any chance anyone else was gonna go for these guys anytime soon? There have been some highly questionable draft strategies at work here . . .
144Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 14:17
11.10 David Wesley, G
145Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 21:46
11.11 skipped

11.12 - Jelani McCoy - C: McCoy was certainly a darkhorse 5 weeks ago but no longer. He looks like a 30 mpg player as the starting Center on the Raptor's battered frontline (for at least the first couple of months) and will provide solid rebounding, a very good FG% and a few blocks. But he's also very Shaq like from the the line. Either way, he's worth the risk at this point and looks to provide solid numbers in the early season and even longer if he can gain confidence off his quick start.

12.01 - Chris Whitney - G: Whitney will be the starting PG in Denver and should put up a few assists to go along with a bunch of 3's and a solid FT%. Until Washington changed their offense last year he had always put up solid assist/minute ratios and hopefully will return to that form in Denver. 5-6 apg wouldn't be a reach and makes him a solid PG pick this late in the draft.
146Farn
      Donor
      ID: 7822711
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 21:47
guru- considering the season is already underway, are you guys using retroactive stats or waiting until you are finished before stats begin to accumulate?
147Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 22:02
I don't know. The league is very poorly organized. We held a vote on this about a week ago, but the results were inconclusive, I think.
148Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 14:05
12.02 skipped
12.03 skipped
12.04 Toni Kukoc, F

12.05 Al Harrington, F: I'm actually really surprised he's still here. He's started to get it and looks poised for a big year after knee surgery on his ACL. Even though it doesn't directly show up in his stats, his enthusiastic play is very important to his own and his team's success and should get him PT and allow him to pick up where he left off(13.1ppg.6.3rpg).

149Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 15:24
11.11 Hidayet Turkoglu

12.02 Michael Redd
150Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 15:31
Recap of round 11:

11.01 Hall 0 V. Radmanovic, F, Sea
11.02 Ludwig - S. Pippen F, Por
11.03 Slotnick - T. Hill, F, CLE
11.04 Slight T. Delk, G. BOS
11.05 Chizzik - Malik Rose, F, SA
11.06 Fitzpatrick - C. Maggette, F - LAC
11.07 Georgoplous - A. Stoudmare, F - PHO
11.08 McLaughlin - Nate Huffman,C - TOR
11.09 Gentles - Emmanuel Ginobili, G - SA
11.10 McRae - David Wesley, G -NO
11.11 Langendorf - Hidayet Turkoglu, G/F, Sac
11.12 Connors - Jelani McCoy - C - TOR

12.01 Connors - Chris Whitney, G, Den
12.02 Langendorf - Michael Redd, G, Mil
12.03 McRae - skipped
12.04 Gentles - Toni Kukoc, F, Mil
153Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 15:46
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