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0 Subject: Got an ipod? Use it sparingly...

Posted by: sarge33rd
- [16727216] Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:00

at $255 to replace the internal battery....
1Texas Flood
      ID: 326462912
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:06
Sarge, you think that's bad another dirty little secrect is when your plasma and lcd tv screens fail you can throw them in a dumpster.
2sarge33rd
      ID: 16727216
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:07
glad I never bought one and have no plans for getting one.
3MadDOG
      ID: 207246
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:10
Printer ink/toner cartridges are still the biggest ripoff known to mankind.
4sarge33rd
      ID: 16727216
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:12
ink cartridges for sure MD. New inkjet printer with cratridges can be had for <$100. (not photo quality capable mind you but perfectly acceptable for any business letters) and cartridges alone for that same printer can run $75.(for both a Blk and Clr cartridge.)
5Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 12:42
Sarge - that's one of the reasons i didn't buy an ipod.

ipod doesnt allow you to replace your own batteries - even though most other mp3 players do.

your film is a bit dated though - due to the work of those filmmakers, and countless others, it's not down to 99 bucks plus shipping to replace the batter.

which, of course, is considerably more expensive then buying the battery yourself and replacing it, which, in the iPod, is extremely difficult to do, and will void your warrenty if you do it.

there was an interesting article today in USA Today tied to all this - the simple fact that Apple insists on keeping everything closed.

if they had opened up and licensed Macs 20 years ago, we'd all be typing on those instead of our PCs, and Bill Gates would be a peripherial person in terms of market share.

Apple's control-freak tendencies could crush iPod
6Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 13:16
MD: Yeah, I completely agree. My printer requires a new "toner/developer" cartridge which runs about $150. I've taught myself how to fill the developer and toner myself and buy both in bulk and save big bucks.

There are some good places on the web which will help teach you to do the same if you're not already on it.
7sarge33rd
      ID: 16727216
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 13:41
thats one of the reason why when I bought my copier/fax, one of the key questyions in evaluating varuious units was, "hjow much are replacement toner cartridges?".

Settled on a Brother MFC-6800. Cartridges are only around $40. The copies are 'good' in quality. Faxes are 'fair'. sufficeint for file purposes but thats about it.
8MadDOG
      ID: 207246
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 13:56
If you are buying a new printer the first thing you have to ask the guy is the "price per page"

The price of the Toner is included in that number.


Perm Dude, what are those websites where I can learn to refill my cartridges? No, I haven't done that yet.
9sarge33rd
      ID: 16727216
      Wed, Aug 04, 2004, 14:20
price per page will vary too much depending on what you are printing. My use is almost 100% text based printing. No photos at all. This leads to a much lower price per page, than a comparative including photo printing.
10nerveclinic
      ID: 465102615
      Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 03:27
You can buy generic cartidges for less then half the cost of the original. I've done so many times with no problems. I've also refilled my own but it's a pain. Worked fine though.
11Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Thu, Aug 05, 2004, 10:15
MD: What printer model do you use? I'll look it up for you and post this afternoon.
12MadDOG
      ID: 3074968
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 10:12
PermDude, I have a Xerox Docuprint M750

The thing cost me $60 and I have probably spent $600 on cartridges since I bought it.

Any help would be appreciated.


99% of the time I print in black draft mode and for some reason my color cartridges get emptied too.
13Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 10:18
Is that an inkjet?
14Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 10:35
Here's a page with refilling instructions for the inkjet. There is also a video on that page in case the instructions are not clear.

I have a couple of sources for cheap toner if you are interested. I'll look them up and post them later.
16MadDOG
      ID: 3074968
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:27
The 8R12728 Compatible Cartridge is actually the one I need.

That website says I can get 5 of them for $30.

Is that true? If that's true, I may just forget about the refilling and just by those cartridges.
17Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:28
Actually, the process is the same (and note that the caption for Fig 3 gives the recommended volume for your particular cartridge).

Basically, you pull off the sticker covering the hole on the bottom, stick the needle into the hole and inject the recommended volume of ink. Plug the hole, lay it on a flat surface upside down for a couple of minutes, then replace the plug, wipe, and re-install into your printer.

I have a dry toner with a completely different process, and held off for months doing it myself. What finally made me do it was a combination of the cost of replacing the whole cartidge, and the fact that the worse that could happen was I'd have to toss the old cartridge out (which was what I was doing anyway when I was buying new ones).

pd
18MadDOG
      ID: 3074968
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:32
Wow, this is great. I am definitely going to buy some of this stuff.

PermDude, have you bought stuff from this website? Any problems?

Thanks alot man. This is great.
19MadDOG
      ID: 3074968
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:36
That video is excellent. That's my cartridge in the video.
20Perm Dude
      ID: 2343587
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:39
I actually buy from another place, but pretty much they are all very good (and usually they'll send you a print-out of the instructions and all the parts you'll need).

I couldn't find the web site for my place but I'll post it when I get back from camping. But that place looks pretty good.

If it works, make sure to up your Guru donation level!
21MadDOG
      ID: 3074968
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 11:57
I just bought 5 of the compatible cartridges and a refill kit. I should get at least 8 full cartridges from that.

Cost $45 bucks (including $5 for shipping), which is about the cost of 2 cartridges from Best Buy.


WOOHOO, I was just about to dump this printer too.

22sarge33rd
      ID: 16727216
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 16:05
katie's and my experience with refilling inkjets has not been good. get 'ok for draft purposes' text but any pics came out really crappy looking. Anyway, got rid of the inkjet and will be looking to replace it sometime in the future.
23katietx
      ID: 286272521
      Fri, Aug 06, 2004, 16:12
I'd be happy if I could use the printer/s we have now. Damn computers won't talk to each other after the lightening storm. :-|
24Gangman
      Leader
      ID: 036155210
      Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 12:33
http://www.smalldog.com/product/46815

Actually it's $47.95 for replacement battery.
25Gangman
      Leader
      ID: 036155210
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 15:23
Make that $24.99

http://www.lacomputercompany.com/cgi-local/rpcart/
index.cgi?command=dispitem&type=itemsku&itemsku=19132
26Mac Evangelist
      Leader
      ID: 036155210
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 15:43
Some notes about Apple and the iPod, such a crummy little
device:

The iTunes Music Store now has over one million songs available
for download in the US, becoming the first and only online
digital music service to offer consumers a million song catalog.
The iTunes Music Store features music from all five major record
labels and over 600 leading independent labels from around the
world. With more than 100 million songs downloaded and more
than 70 percent market share of legal downloads for singles and
albums, the iTunes Music Store is the world’s number one online
music service.

“The iPod is a strangely magical thing,” writes Wilson Rothman
for TIME.com. “It’s one of those devices, like TiVos and Game
Boys, whose use rapidly leads to dependence, and each
generation promises something new and exciting.

Comparing the forthcoming Sony Network Walkman NW-HD1 to
the iPod, Walt Mossberg writes in the Wall Street Journal, “While
the new Sony is smaller than the iPod and has much better
battery life, it is markedly inferior overall. It has a confusing,
complex user interface that makes it hard to use; weak software
for the PC; an oddball music format that makes loading it with
songs tedious; and a companion music download service that
offers less than Apple’s. The iPod wins this round, and remains
champion … If you love the Sony name, or the Walkman’s size
and design, or if you regularly take flights lasting more than 12
hours, you might be willing to pay $100 more for this new
Walkman over an iPod. But, for everybody else, until Sony fixes
the multitude of sins in this product, steer clear of it.”

Apple Computer claims its retail operation is the fastest in
history to reach $1 billion in sales—it took the company only
three years to do so, besting the previous record holder, Gap
Inc., which took an additional year to reach that milestone.

The average Apple store does $2,500 sales per square foot per
year (Ed.--Johnson has earlier said $3,000) compared to $500
for the average retail store, the Merrill Lynch report said.

I guess somebody likes em'. :-)
27sarge33rd
      ID: 35757108
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:00
hell I only VERY recently finally broke down and consented to get a damn cell phone. lol Figure if I wanted to take calls on the 7th green, I'd make sure there was a phone booth there.
28Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 1629107
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:16
You're ahead of me Sarge. To date I have never owned one. I have a beeper that my employer issued to me and as far as I know I've never been paged. I replaced the battery once a few years ago when I looked at it for the first time in months. That was probably the last time I looked at it.
29biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:18
Cell phones eat your brain. Slowly. Painfully.
30Baldwin
      ID: 53631254
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:24
...and any kittens nearby.
31biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:25
Sicko.
32sarge33rd
      ID: 35757108
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:30
lol MITh. TOO much like myself. Back in '98 my then boss gave a co cell phone so he could 'call me if he needed to'. Came in one Mon after a rare 2-day weekend and he was up in arms wanting to know why I hadnt been answering the cell phone. Told him I never heard it ring. He was dumbfounded, screaming about it being brand new etc etc. Then I told him that my wife and I had spent the weekend in Omaha and the phone was on our dining room table all weekend. :) (gddmn was he MAD!)
33James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:36
I have an iPod, and I adore it. I looked at the options from Dell, etc., and still was willing to pay the extra for the Apple product. It's all about the "feel" -- that's the best way I can describe it. It just feels right in your hand, and feels right when you navigate your music.

When my Dad -- who's no technophobe but no technophile either -- was up for a visit, I handed it to him and he asked me how it worked. I told him to play with it for 15 seconds and then tell me if he still had any questions about how to use it. Fifteen seconds later, no questions. That's the magic of it.
34Gangman
      Leader
      ID: 036155210
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:47
I yoose a sell Fone al thee tym aN I am joos fein.
35biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:48
lol!
36Tree
      ID: 76471215
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:51
ok, making my official prediction on the iPod.

it will be relatively extinct in 10 years, having less than 10 percent of the new market share.

Steve Jobs is making the same tragic mistake he made with the Mac.

20 years ago, Mac dominated. It was the prevailing OS, and the top technology. Jobs literally used to call Bill Gates into his office to yell at him. and Gates took it.

But Jobs refused to license his product and share the code, while Gates did just the opposite with his then fledgling Windows OS.

Now Macs are only about 4 percent of the market share.

Jobs is again refusing to share, and again, his hubris, will cost him great deals of money and business.
37biliruben
      ID: 441182916
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 16:54
I think you are confusing IBM with Gates.
38James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 17:55
Tree - what you're not accounting for is that Apple technology continues to be dominant within certain market niches. The graphic design community, for example. When it comes to most of the designers I know, you'd have to pry their Macs from their cold, dead fingers.

I suspect that the common factor is that Mac can dominate niches that are heavily reliant on interface. Having used the same graphic design apps on both Mac and PC, I can tell you that again, it's all about "feel." For some reason, Photoshop, Quark, etc., are just easier to use on a Mac.

Just like digital music is easier to access on an iPod. People may well copy the interface, but because it's consistenly been ahead of the curve in this market, I don't think there's any reason why Apple can't maintain its position.

Here's the crux from the columnist you cited:

Other than open-source MP3 files, only music downloaded through iTunes will play on iPods, and iTunes music won't play on any portable device except an iPod. Apple refuses to license the technology to third parties.

His "other than mp3 files" caveat is huge. That covers the massive majority of the files out there right now. And obviously iPod can handle the other main source of digital music -- rips from a user's CD collection.

The columnist also seems to have a problem with having to manage the music on your iPod only through iTunes. Two things: Any hard-drive based mp3 player is going to come with a music management app. It just happens to be that iTunes is an extremely functional one. This is not a problem. Second, there are plenty of third-party managment tools that have sprung up, to get around this if you want. I've used one called iPod Agent.

The one point of frustration I will grant him is that all iTunes downloads are in AAC format, and are a pain to switch to mp3. It can be done, though. But here's the thing, if you were Jobs trying to gain total dominance in a relatively new market -- and you've got both the best music management software and the best music player, what incentive would you have to not go for the synergy here and make it that much harder for your competitors? Switching iTunes downloads to mp3 doesn't give you any additional value, but it does make it less likely, to some degree at least, that people are going to buy your iPod.

But I will say that in forecasting 10 years out, I think your prediction is relatively safe. Most mp3 devices, as we know them, will be relatively extinct by then.

39Gangman
      Leader
      ID: 036155210
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 19:04
Tree..... speaking of market share, I can safely say that you have
disagreed with me 98% of the time no matter which forum I post
in.

As for your story on Apple, it is well known. But JKP is correct in
that Apple is the gold standard for innovation in the world of
computing. And their brand loyalty is through the roof, as is
customer satisfaction (contrary to poular myth).

Also, is market share really the only thing in life that matters?
I'm guessing that Porsche, BMW and Mercedes and Lexus are all
outsold by Toyota Camry. They probably sell way more Ford
Taurus' than those other makes as well. And undoubtedly, it's
easier to change the oil in your driveway on a Taurus than on a
Porsche.

But BMW, Porsche and Mercedes manage to survive. Apple will
also.
40Tree
      ID: 176431421
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 20:51
JKP - to a certain extent, you're right (imho) in a couple of areas.

1. the niche area. my department is situated between the graphic design department for our audio division, and the graphic design department for our video equipment.

i crack mac jokes, they crack my skull with a baseball bat. they love their macs.

2. mp3 players, as we know them, will certainly be very different.

nonetheless, i still believe that the iPod, unless Jobs changes his way of doing business, will not be the dominant player in the field.

iTunes is certainly much easier to use than most, if not all, of the other softwares out there, but software, like everything else, eventually catches up.

(as for the columnist cited - hopefully i didn't plagerize. i didn't go back the re-read before my rant in post 36)
41Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 21:00
I'm still trying to complete my move to wav files. I don't want anything after 1975. I get off on things like Tennessee Ernie Ford's Sixteen Tons
I was born one mornin' when the sun didn't shine
Picked up a shovel and I walked to the mine
I hauled Sixteen Tons of number 9 coal
And the straw-boss said, "Well, bless my soul"


(Chorus:)

You haul Sixteen Tons, whadaya get?
Another older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store


Repeat Chorus

Born one morning it was drizzle and rain
Fightin' and Trouble are my middle name
I was raised in a canebrake by an old mama lion
And no high-toned woman make me walk the line


Repeat Chorus

See me comin' better step aside
A lot of men didn't and a lot of men died
I got one fist of iron and the other of steel
And if the right one don't get ya, the left one will


Repeat Chorus

Born one mornin' when the sun didn't shine
Picked up a shovel and I walked to the mine
I hauled Sixteen Tons of number 9 coal
And the straw-boss said, "Well, bless my soul"
Where can I go to download this good stuff legally, or at least where I won't get caught?

Toral
42Toral
      ID: 22731114
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 21:02
Text corrupted; should be:

"Another day older and deeper in debt."

Song was accompanied by TEF snapping fingers.

Toral
43James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Wed, Aug 11, 2004, 21:18
Tree -- I agree with you that software will likely catch up with iTunes. At its heart, it's just a simple window into a database. There are plenty of folks out there who can replicate what it does.

But the reason I'm still betting on iPod in the mp3 player market is that what it does isn't the big deal. Any HD mp3 player is going to be able store, sort and play digital music files. Other functions, like storage of contact info, voice recording, picture display, video playback, etc., are pretty darn peripheral at this point. (And picture display is the only decently useful extra function that iPod doesn't currently handle.) The only way you really threaten yourself is if you're technologically compartmentalized enough that you become significantly unusable -- or at least become a pain in the butt to use. And so long as it plays mp3s, iPod isn't doing this.

What you're left with then, are two real ways to differentiate yourself in the HD mp3 player market: price and interface. The release of the 4G iPod pretty much lopped $100 off every size, which blunts a lot of the criticism of it as "overpriced." And can you think of *anyone* -- in any field, really -- that does interface better than Apple?

BTW, although I've used Macs in my career, I'm by no means an apostle. I use PC exclusively at work and home, although I'm requesting a Mac at the office for possible use with video. I'll go wherever the strengths are ... hence the iPod ;)
44Baldwin
      ID: 53631254
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 02:08
For my money MP3 just sacrifices too much resolution in this day and age of great miniature storage media. I gotta think there is a new compression standard coming soon that will supplant both.
45James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 13:00
For me, the current loss in quality -- and for most uses, most of the time, it isn't even detectable -- is a fair tradeoff for the mp3's increased flexibility. But I'm sure compressions standards will continue to improve. I know a few folks who are sold on this Ogg Vorbis format.
46Baldwin
      ID: 53631254
      Thu, Aug 19, 2004, 07:33
I hadn't heard about this one...
INDUCE is supposed to target copyright infringement via illegal downloads, especially on peer-to-peer (p2p) networks like Kazaa and Grokster. The bill would create a new cause of action against anyone who "induces" such infringement -- with "inducement" to be determined on a case-by-case basis, using an unspecific "reasonable man" standard to evaluate the presence of intent to induce a copyright violation.

The problem is, this concept has no real limits. Suppliers of any technology that allows transmitting, copying, or sharing of material protected by intellectual property law could be accused of "inducement." That list is potentially endless: PC's, broadband service, dial-up service, scanners, printers, mp3 file systems, CD recorders, and so on. INDUCE's subjective standards of proof would have a dramatic chilling effect on the development, marketing, and distribution of new and existing technologies (once an accusation makes it to court, costs start to pile up quickly).
This one is Orin Hatch's baby.
47James K Polk
      ID: 51010719
      Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 17:19
The rumors suggest Apple isn't sitting on its laurels in the digital music market.
48Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 09:35
BUTT

BestBuy.com had the FM transmitter for the I-Pod on sale (15% off) so I felt compelled and took the plunge on the 20GB model and the transmitter so I can listen to tunes using my car stereo.

I already use the I-Tunes store and the I-Pod works very well with it.

I've had it for three days now and it is really something else. It is the same size as a pack of cigarettes only thinner. Another gadget to take up another precious USB 2.0 port.

49nerveclinic
      ID: 34757310
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 14:42
OK so someone explain this to me.

Let's say this friend of mine has 150 gigs of songs that he download on P2P sites. And let's say this friend did so illegally.

This friend of mine is just wondering if these files will play on an Ipod or will the Ipod know where these files came from and not allow it.

My friend wants to know if they are developing technology in general that will recognize that a particular file was downloaded illegally and not allow it to play or is it impossible to tell if the file was just legally burned from ones own CD?

As far as the quality of the MP3 sound, as long as you look for a bit rate of 192 or above you shouldn't have any problem. My friend plays his illegally down loaded MP3's in his car stereo and is very happy with he sound.

Also, just for the record (Pardon the pun) my friend does not feel one bit guilty about this 150 gig stock pile of burned MP3's because he spends so much money on music every month it's ridiculous.

If he brought his bank statements showing music store purchases to trial the record companies would ask the judge to dismiss the case and take this guy out to dinner.



50nerveclinic
      ID: 34757310
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 14:51
Toral

In refernece to Tennesse Ernie Fords 16 tons.

I read your post and less then 1 minute later owned a copy.

As far as getting caught, this is only my opinion but I'd be open to hearing others take on this.

The law suits are coming from specific large record labels. So far that seems to be it.

My educated guess is, they are only going after people who are illegally downloading their music and probably only the really big name stuff.

I don't know this for a fact, but it makes sense.

Also they are on record as saying that they have only been going after people who are sharing very large numbers of files (thousands)

If you just go to a p2p site, and perhaps a less well known one in America like soulseek, and just download an occasional song and don't offer large numbers for other to take you have zero to worry about.

I would even bet if you were offering people large numbers of files like tennessee ernie ford you have nothing to worry about.

I think if you stay clear of major label music, you have nothing to worry about.

Tree do you concur?
51Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 15:01
I consulted with a FRIEND about your FRIEND'S problem and here's the skinny.

The I-POD is intended to work seemlessly with the I-TUNES software, which it does perfectly. What your FRIEND can do is to add the directory in the I-TUNES sofware itself and upload said files into the I-POD. I found the I-TUNES sofware to be very intuitive and actually fun to use.

What my FRIEND has noticed is that some older files that were obtained using other methods have a *beep* sound that occurs every 30 seconds or so. 99% of the files work perfectly, but 1% does not. Perhaps its a bit rate thing.

Think of I-TUNES in the same light as Microsoft ActiveSync is to a Windows PDA except that it is also a store.

"My friend wants to know if they are developing technology in general that will recognize that a particular file was downloaded illegally and not allow it to play or is it impossible to tell if the file was just legally burned from ones own CD?"

That's an excellent question. One which my FRIEND did not have an answer.

Here's a useful tool that helped me to select an MP3 player.

Which online store works with your MP3 player?

Since I use I-Tunes, I pretty much had a "Soviet Election" when it came to choosing an mp3 player. People on the other side of the MP3 Berlin Wall may have many more choices.
52nerveclinic
      ID: 34757310
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 16:14
CCP

My friend uses the Itune player to listen to these songs on his computer. If it works on the Itune player does that automatically mean that it works on an Ipod?...just asking for my friend.
53Cosmo's Cod Piece
      ID: 144192417
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 16:18
Based on all my FRIEND'S testing so far which has been quite extensive, the answer is a resounding yes.
54James K Polk
      ID: 2914090
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 21:58
I second the "yes" answer. Nerve's friend should have no problems.
55Tree
      Donor
      ID: 599393013
      Sat, Nov 13, 2004, 22:00
I would even bet if you were offering people large numbers of files like tennessee ernie ford you have nothing to worry about.

I think if you stay clear of major label music, you have nothing to worry about.

Tree do you concur?


nope. i disagree with you. i would not say "you have nothing to worry about" if you're doing something illegal.

sooner or later, the odds might catch up with you - you have to do risk assessment, and make a personal decision with that in mind.
56Wilmer McLean
      ID: 184193017
      Thu, Jun 02, 2005, 15:52
Apple Offers $50 Credit for IPod Batteries

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 2, 2005
Filed at 3:02 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Consumers who had battery problems with older versions of the popular iPod digital music player will get $50 vouchers and extended service warranties under a tentative settlement in a class-action lawsuit.

Lawyers representing consumers in the state court case against Apple Computer Inc. said Thursday that the settlement could affect as many as 2 million people nationwide who purchased first-, second- and third-generation iPods through May 2004.

Cupertino-based Apple confirmed the settlement but deferred immediate comment.

In the fall of 2003, eight consumers filed a suit, alleging that the iPod failed to live up to claims that the rechargeable battery would last the product's lifetime and play music continuously for up to 10 hours.

Thousands of consumers complained that the battery -- which cost $99 to replace -- lasted 18 months or less and they could only play music for four hours or less before recharging it. Environmentalists were also upset, saying the short-lived battery encouraged consumers to dispose of their old devices, which were ending up in landfills and possibly leaking toxins.
57Seattle Zen
      ID: 529121611
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 19:22
Use that IPod as much as you like, just replace the battery with one of theirs, some of them have 50% more battery life than the originals!

"My iPod battery life was gone. I couldn't believe how quick and painless your ipod battery replacement program was - from ordering to installation. Plus, I get to keep my original iPod, which was a birthday gift from my wife. Thanks, guys!"
58sarge33rd
      ID: 99331714
      Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 19:26
nice find SZ.
59walk
      ID: 2530286
      Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 20:49
I've used iPodReq two times, and both times the experiences were very positive. You fill out a form on-line, the next day they ship you a very safe well-packed empty carton, with a fedex overnite label, you plop in your iPod, you send it out, two days later your iPod comes back in the same box with a new battery. The proof is that your charge lasts much longer. There are several services like these. They offer good products, good service and fast turnaround times.

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60Wilmer McLean
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      Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 23:09
Don’t Throw Out Your Broken iPod; Fix It via the Web (NY Times)
61walk
      ID: 2530286
      Sun, Nov 11, 2007, 11:54
There ya go, good one Wilmer. I would definitely use of these services if a $300-$400 MP3 player was busted. A $150 nano type, with the new technologies coming out as frequently as they, is more of judgment call, but for a battery replacement, it still makes sense to replace than junk. The turnaround time and ease with which one can use these services makes it really simple and seamless.
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