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Subject: Just incase you think the media isn't Liberal..... Posted by: Jag - [360261522] Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 04:56 This is what the Associated Press wrote today about John Edwards' decision to drop out of the presidential race. The AP said Edwards was — "ending a scrappy underdog bid in which he steered his rivals toward progressive ideals while grappling with family hardship that roused voters' sympathies." It added that — "Edwards waged a spirited top-tier campaign against the two better-funded rivals, even as he dealt with the stunning blow of his wife's recurring cancer diagnosis." And here's what the AP said about Rudy Giuliani — "Once the Republican presidential front-runner, Giuliani suffered a debilitating defeat in Tuesday's Florida primary." "Tuesday's result was a remarkable collapse for Giuliani... Florida proved to be less than hospitable." If you can't see the difference on how a Conservative and a Liberal are treated, you are deaf, dumb and blind. link | |||||||
| 35 | Perm Dude ID: 340283120 Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 22:57 |
...and use that time elsewhere. Really. You and Baldwin are immune to fact, if they come from "liberals." | ||||||
| 36 | Tree ID: 520153120 Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 23:20 |
Sad what a lame weak liberal echo chamber this place is devolving into despite your best efforts. you're kidding, right? with the constant reach-arounds that you, Jag, and Box keep giving each other, you're going to accuse those here who lean left of being part of some sort of "liberal echo chamber"???? when is the last time any of you 3 actually disagreed with each other? you see lots of different opinions here from those of us with a left slant, but i'm not noticing anything other than the goose step of your little trio. | ||||||
| 37 | Boldwin ID: 1055190 Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 14:40 | Well at least you got the 'I'm not noticing' part right. I've never accused you of being perceptive. | ||||||
| 40 | Boldwin ID: 463471413 Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 16:25 | Who wants to pick up a worm? | ||||||
| 41 | biliruben ID: 33258140 Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 16:26 | Judy Bake's undercooked pork? | ||||||
| 42 | Boldwin ID: 463471413 Fri, Apr 18, 2008, 16:29 | I am willing to bet Heriberto Schultz doesn't even know his computer has been hijacked into generating stuff like that in it's spare time. He'll find out when his service provider shuts him down until he can clean his computer. | ||||||
| 43 | astade ID: 1533770 Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 19:18 | An interesting article regarding the Pentagon's use of retired military personnel in the MSM. link | ||||||
| 44 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Mon, Apr 21, 2008, 15:37 | CNN spinning for Obama. | ||||||
| 45 | Pasquale Davidson ID: 333292122 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 00:29 | epigraphy kakkak ruffle naut precollect protobasidiomycetous biometrics ungardenedEWP http://www.angelfire.com/ma/LazyLobsterPub/lukeson.html | ||||||
| 46 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 06:59 |
Baldwin's mantra: The truth can be called spin any time it is provided by MSM. | ||||||
| 47 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 07:09 | You have no problem with the way they withheld the fact that Hamas actually had done that? You and the MSM are a well suited couple. | ||||||
| 48 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 08:55 |
The point of that entry is to report on the dustup over McCain's email linking Hamas to Obama following Obama's explicit criticism of Jimmy Carter's meeting with the Hamas leader. It's not spin because it doesn't in any way suggest or lead the reader to believe that McCain's email was less than truthful. | ||||||
| 49 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 09:01 |
However, Boldwin, since we know you are such an objective observer I'm sure you'll join me in noting the anti-Obama spin (your standards, not mine) in the same article. After all, the entry quotes Obama as having claimed to criticize Carter's meeting with Hamas, but withheld the fact that Obama actually had done that. | ||||||
| 50 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 09:04 |
CNN failed to point out that Hamas had actually done that....then they add...John McCain is repeating tired and divisive attacks about Barack Obama that he knows are flat out untrue,”MITH Looks at the CNN pice and then says... it doesn't in any way suggest or lead the reader to believe that McCain's email was less than truthful.In the Immortal words of Tracy Chapman, 'Gimme one good reason to stay here...' | ||||||
| 51 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 09:15 |
then they add... John McCain is repeating tired and divisive attacks about Barack Obama that he knows are flat out untrue,” Thank you for two much better examples of how an omission can be used to spin the truth. First, that's a quote, not CNN's words. By omitting that information, you appear to want the reader to believe the post's author has claimed John McCain is repeating tired and divisive attacks about Barack Obama that he knows are flat out untrue. Second, in post 50, your omission of the rest of the quote, "“Barack Obama disagreed with President Carter's meeting with Hamas and has said so repeatedly, and we look forward to John McCain's clarification and apology for his latest false political attack.”" changes it's context to sound like it rejects the report that Hamas prefers Obama, rather than the simple notion of ideologically linking Obama to hamas. | ||||||
| 52 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 09:25 | How would any reader of that piece be led to believe that McCain was speaking about an actual Hamas endorsement instead of something he knew to be untrue? | ||||||
| 53 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 10:01 |
Well for one thing because the writer of the piece never indicated or suggested in any way that the claim in the email was untrue. Everything that was stated or written by someone other than the writer was in quotes and attributed to the source with no comment on accuracy, either way. This goes for things both sides said about their respective opposition. Writers are expected to understand how English punctuation works, no? You didn't have a problem with the writer omitting the fact that Obama really did criticize Carter for meeting Hamas, did you? You think that was spin, too? Further, for a real indicator of how the article was recieved - by a primarily pro-Obama audiance, no less - just read through some of the 411 reader comments. If this really was spin then obviously many of the readers would indicate in their comment posts that they believed McCain had fabricated the Hamas endorsement. I skimmed about 1/4 of the way through and not one comment indicated such a misunderstanding. | ||||||
| 54 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 10:02 |
Err: | ||||||
| 55 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 10:41 | I guess we can chalk that up to them being a pro-Obama audience happy and relieved to see the spin take the [deserved] onus off Obama and attempt to put it on McCain. | ||||||
| 56 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 10:44 | Yeah keep on grasping, one of those straws might hold. | ||||||
| 57 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 10:54 | For the record, at least 6 of the first 50 comments explicitly acknowledge Hamas' unsolicited endorsement of Obama. | ||||||
| 58 | Boldwin ID: 573452112 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 11:09 |
Lol, you are weighed down under the false impression that I desperately don't want to see Obama president and that I am desperately clinging to any straw that might bring him down. See Coulter's endorsement of Clinton. Conservatives don't have a dog in this fight. Christians counting on God's Kingdom to solve mankind's problms, even less so. Have your Obama, just make sure Kieffer Sutherland is his runningmate and not Hillary. | ||||||
| 60 | Mattinglyinthehall Dude ID: 01629107 Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 11:25 | I'm full aware of your "don't have a dog in this fight" affectation. Your highly subjective posts betray you. | ||||||
| 61 | Boldwin ID: 323592819 Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 02:47 |
OUCH: "Print circulation continues on its steep downward slide, the Audit Bureau of Circulations revealed this morning in releasing the latest numbers for some of the country's largest dailies in the six-month period ending March 31, 2008. When a full analysis appears it is expected to find, according to sources, the biggest dip yet, about 3.5% daily and 4.5 for Sunday. . . . The New York Times lost more than 150,000 copies on Sunday. Circulation on that day fell a whopping 9.2% to 1,476,400. The paper's daily circulation declined 3.8% to 1,077,256." Circulation at the WSJ, meanwhile, is up. USA Today, too. What could be the difference? - http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003795106 via Instapundit | ||||||
| 62 | Boldwin ID: 323592819 Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 03:21 | Wow, if a progressive paper can't make it in Madison Wisc.! Dunno what to make of that. | ||||||
| 63 | Tree ID: 0342294 Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 06:48 |
because everything has a ceiling? eventually, what goes up, must come down. regarding more specifics, i would be curious to study what reading level each of those papers are aimed at. i would imagine the WSJ and the NYT are similar, but USA Today and it's "McNews Nuggets" - which do make it easier to read on the john or in the subway - is almost certainly considerably lower. and it has a great sports section of you like data and infobites. | ||||||
| 64 | Boldwin ID: 323592819 Thu, May 01, 2008, 11:47 | The Press Club gave Wright a standing ovation. | ||||||
| 65 | Myboyjack ID: 8216923 Thu, May 01, 2008, 12:04 |
The Press Club gave Wright a standing ovation. So did the campaign staff for McCain and Clinton. | ||||||
| 66 | Perm Dude ID: 3943117 Thu, May 01, 2008, 13:46 | Heh. Why wouldn't the Press Club stand up for such a guy? He'll help them sell papers. | ||||||
| 67 | Boldwin ID: 16253251 Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 21:24 |
How 'in the tank' is the media for the Obama administration?Orlando Sentinal Reporter locked in a closet at Biden fundraiser, guards posted outside the door.Another thing the Obama administration has in common with Fidel and Hugo...*fistbump* It's not just that their own paper refused to make that a story, or even that MSM around the country buried it... ...it's that Biden knew he could get away with it with impunity in the first place. | ||||||
| 68 | Perm Dude ID: 5510572522 Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 21:29 |
showed up at a private home? too bad--into the closet! it's that Biden knew he could get away with it with impunity in the first place Yes, because the single, unsubstantiated story was so insightful as to what Biden knew about it... | ||||||
| 69 | Boldwin ID: 16253251 Sat, Mar 26, 2011, 21:39 |
The liberal group Media Matters has quietly transformed itself in preparation for what its founder, David Brock, described in an interview as an all-out campaign of “guerrilla warfare and sabotage” aimed at the Fox News Channel.We were going to watch our language, remember? Oh, that was just 'let's you conservatives, be careful with our language'. “The strategy that we had had toward Fox was basically a strategy of containment,” said Brock, Media Matters’ chairman and founder and a former conservative journalist, adding that the group’s main aim had been to challenge the factual claims of the channel and to attempt to prevent them from reaching the mainstream media.Who used to bait me over the concept that FOX was mainstream media? The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.” | ||||||
| 70 | Mith ID: 23217270 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 01:17 | In 2003 FNC might or might not have qualified. Either way that goal was an epic fail for Brock. | ||||||
| 71 | Mith ID: 23217270 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 01:29 |
Wiki:Mainstream media (MSM) are those media disseminated via the largest distribution channels, which therefore represent what the majority of media consumers are likely to encounter. The term also denotes those media generally reflective of the prevailing currents of thought, influence, or activity.Is Newscorp one of the handful of America's (if not the world's) largest distribution channels or not? Is FNC (the most watched network in in it's category) the flagship outlet of that channel or not? The zeitgeist broke right in front of your face and you're so invested in bitching about it that you refuse to notice. | ||||||
| 72 | Boldwin ID: 16253251 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 10:32 | So when will the next cable news channel choose to serve the public instead of karl marx? We don't like monopolies, remember? Cause right now America only has one news channel. | ||||||
| 73 | Perm Dude ID: 5510572522 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 10:56 | Bingo! I had Marx! | ||||||
| 74 | Pancho Villa ID: 597172916 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 10:58 | Dang, PD. I had Soros. | ||||||
| 75 | Tree ID: 24115767 Sun, Mar 27, 2011, 11:32 | i had Ayers. i suck at this. | ||||||
| 76 | Boldwin ID: 16253251 Wed, Mar 30, 2011, 05:25 |
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| 77 | Perm Dude ID: 5510572522 Wed, Mar 30, 2011, 08:24 | Yes, it is just like that. The rebels are like Mexican drug gangs. | ||||||
| 78 | Boldwin ID: 4213019 Wed, Mar 30, 2011, 20:01 | Maybe we shouldn't hand either of them any guns. | ||||||
| 80 | Mith ID: 51253421 Wed, Mar 30, 2011, 20:47 | Boldy, you love it when GOP administrations arm anti-American characters when it squeezes our mutual enemies. You think Reagan was brilliant for sending weapons to Iran, even if they were used to kill innocents. You're on record here for years in defense of Bush's "surge", which worked because Sunnis who were killing American soldiers the year before came around to decide for the time being that the foreign insurgents were worse than the Americans. | ||||||
| 81 | Boldwin ID: 4213019 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 05:54 |
Results. Look at the results. Arming Iran didn't make them more antiamerican or any worse to their own people, while it paid for anticommunist freedom fighters. Arming Islamists to actually take over a country creates a new implacable enemy to the United States and an Islamist tyranny in Libya. True it just replaces a stalinist tyranny in Libya, but it leads to a unified islamist caliphate threat to the rest of the world unlike anything we've faced from muslims for many hundreds of years. Arming the drug trade in Mexico keeps Mexico a narco-state and prevents any reform from gathering momentum there. | ||||||
| 82 | Seattle Zen ID: 10732616 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 16:38 |
but it leads to a unified islamist caliphate threat to the rest of the world unlike anything we've faced from muslims for many hundreds of years. Ridiculous crap, stick a cork in it! | ||||||
| 83 | Boldwin ID: 4213019 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 16:49 |
And just wait till your moderate muslims see the prophesied caliphate and hear the guys claiming to be the 12'th mahdi actually in charge of said caliphate. It will be like lapsed christians suddenly seeing Christ's face appear in neon projected on every cloud. [not that it's going to go down that way] "you mean mom and dad were actually right"? Don't worry, when they set it up they'll prolly use Turkey as their front, and you're not afraid of Turkey, are you? They're practically EU over there. You'll be able to keep your head in the sand even longer. | ||||||
| 84 | Perm Dude ID: 5510572522 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 17:02 |
"Just you wait!" Its the slogan on the best selling t-shirt at tea party rallies. | ||||||
| 85 | Boldwin ID: 4213019 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 17:23 | BTW Turkey was the political center of the old Ottoman Empire also. The one deconstructed by the same power elites who insisted on filling Europe with non-integrating muslim immigrants who will replace the european population with a muslim majority in a few decades just based on children per family. | ||||||
| 86 | Perm Dude ID: 5510572522 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 17:37 | Just like the Irish did here in the United States. | ||||||
| 87 | Boldwin ID: 4213019 Thu, Mar 31, 2011, 17:38 | Why my Irish half is very integrated. | ||||||
| 88 | Boldwin ID: 5533360 Wed, Apr 06, 2011, 05:12 |
Tina Fey:“Some may argue that exploiting Governor Palin and her family helped bring attention to my low-rated TV show,” an excerpt of the book posted on USA Today reads. “I am proud to say you are wrong.We love you right back atcha, Tina. | ||||||
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