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0 Subject: "Compassion" Fascists - Part 2

Posted by: Boldwin
- [323592819] Wed, Apr 30, 2008, 14:10

See the first month of the mass kidnapping in the "Compassion" Fascists thread.

Part 1 was the kidnapping.

Part 2 is the denial of due process.

Part 3 will be the 'rat caging' of an entire religion.



Yes, you have agreed to and have moved away into your own apartment and away from your husband as we have demanded.

Yes, you have paid hundreds of dollars per hour long course in parenting many times over.

Yes you have scrupulously attented countless hearing after hearing in the many widely separated locations to which your childrn have been dispersed.

Yes you have told us most of the words we want to hear but we really don't believe we have completely broke you until you believe white is black and the sun is the moon and thanked us for having shown you the 'light'.

Your parental rights are hereby terminated.

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515Boldwin
      ID: 213382621
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 16:00
What does it take to get an ally around here?

This maybe? They are our kids, and by 'our' I don't mean the government's.
516Tree
      ID: 38322228
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 17:18
What does it take to get an ally around here?


when you constantly make yourself out to be a joke, no one with a lick of sense wants to be your ally.
517Boldwin
      ID: 73322716
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 17:34
^ Thinks I'm talking to him. What a maroon.
518Boldwin
      ID: 73322716
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 17:57
If only I had Tree for an ally. Then I'd be happy.
519Tree
      ID: 38322228
      Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 23:18
the point is, most of what you say is radical and crazy, much of it is nonsense, and the majority of it is dishonest.

no one wants to associate with that.
520Boldwin
      ID: 513412920
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 01:13
Seek a second opinion, lose your child.

You might ask for a second opinion if you took your kid in for flu symptoms, they treated with antibiotics which don't work on viruses, and then they insist on a heart operation.
521bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 08:36
the abduction of their five-month-old son by police officers

It's plain what's going on here. Police officers feel such affinity for Obama - they need to kidnap children so that they can be indoctrinated by liberals and inducted into Obama's private army.

Freakin commy cops! Their everywhere.
522bibA
      ID: 54522612
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 08:43
they're
523Boldwin
      ID: 193383016
      Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 18:24
When they come for your child would you like me to laff?



People's Cube

My name's on that jackboot for sure.
524Tree
      ID: 38322228
      Fri, May 03, 2013, 16:48
Pa. Judge Sentenced To 28 Years In Massive Juvenile Justice Bribery Scandal

another reason why private prisons are a terrible idea.
525Boldwin
      ID: 14427221
      Wed, May 22, 2013, 11:54
British nationalized healthcare...rolling euthanasia of the disabled.
“all too many people with disabilities end up being killed by the health service – the very institution supposedly dedicated to saving their lives.”

Each week 24 disabled people are killed by such prejudiced presumptions; indeed, there was a case at my local hospital recently. These shocking figures are based on a government-commissioned inquiry into one region of the country, which found people with disabilities 37% more likely to be killed by incompetence or inadequate care – and their lives end on average 16 years earlier than they should. The more serious the disabilities, the higher the risk.
526Boldwin
      ID: 57462820
      Wed, May 29, 2013, 09:40
In lands where 'progressive' fascism has designed the healthcare you die alone and your body does not belong to you.
527Boldwin
      ID: 05581410
      Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 18:35
528Khahan
      ID: 39432178
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 09:43
Dare I say it - Yeah for the ACLU?

Mother wins lawsuit against hospital over having her 3 day old child taken away.
529Tree
      ID: 395323014
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 10:30
The ACLU has almost always been evenhanded in what cases they take on. thinking they have a political bias is absurd.
530Khahan
      ID: 39432178
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 11:42
I never said or implied anything about political bias tree. But I often feel they do more harm than good with many of the cases they take. However, in this case (and admittedly more than normal lately) they did a good thing.
531Mith
      ID: 412561115
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 11:54
With civil liberties suddenly in fashion on the political right, I suspect there's going to be an awful lot of backtracking from previous positions on the ACLU from that side of the political aisle.
532Tree
      ID: 43625311
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 12:25
I never said or implied anything about political bias tree

when you say Dare I say it - Yeah for the ACLU? , there is an implication there.

the ACLU has almost always been evenhanded. it always make me laugh when Conservatives (not talking about you) call the ACLU liberal, when we'er talking about an organization that once defended the rights of the American Nazi Party to have a parade.

533Frick
      ID: 432501512
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 13:52
The ACLU gets a liberal tag because of their stance on a number of issues, that tend to be considered liberal, e.g., Death Penalty, Abortion, Affirmative Action.

However, I do agree that the ACLU is evenhanded in their defense of civil liberties. I disagree with them on some of the stances, but they are consistent with their views and applying them to everyone equally.
534Mith
      ID: 412561115
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 14:04
Continued belief that opposition to capital punishment is a "liberal" issue as opposed to a civil rights one is yet another reason for why the political right is the more authoritarian side of the aisle.

And why the current civil rights trend on that side is clearly more of a political fad than some newfound (much less longstanding - haha) respect for those ideals.
535Perm Dude
      ID: 24625213
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 14:15
The ACLU's problem is that they believe some civil liberties are far, far more important than others.

I agree with MITH that capital punishment isn't a liberal or conservative issue, particularly when we've got plenty of evidence that it is being applied unevenly.
536Khahan
      ID: 39432178
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 15:57
First sentence of 525 sums up my thoughts on the ACLU pretty well. On the whole, its not a matter of politics, more a matter of perspective.

But recently they've taken more (or maybe we've just heard of more) cases where people are fighting for equal rights or fighting against government intrusion. This case I referenced (which I brought up here because it was discussed earlier in the thread) is a good example. And the case of the Alamaba (or Mississippi?) girl who sued to be able to bring her girlfriend to the prom is a case they supported where people are looking for equal rights. All great things.

But too often you hear about the aclu coming to the aid of people and when I hear about the case I just groan and think frivilous lawsuit.
537Tree
      ID: 43625311
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 18:43
But too often you hear about the aclu coming to the aid of people and when I hear about the case I just groan and think frivilous lawsuit.

could you give some examples?
538Khahan
      ID: 16341313
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 18:55
Offhand, tree, no. None come to mind. Im posting *my* impressions on them, though I know I've formed those impressions from constantly seeing the aclu pop up various idiotic lawsuits. I don't keep a mental or physical roladex of these things.
539Mith
      ID: 412561115
      Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 19:28
I think we are often misled about how pervading or prevalent the subjects of some media go-to types of stories tend to be.
540Boldwin
      ID: 27620414
      Thu, Jul 04, 2013, 15:20
541Tree
      ID: 12638511
      Fri, Jul 05, 2013, 12:38
538 - kind of my point. if it happened "too often" as you state, then you'd likely remember some of them.

it's one of those things were certain pundits from a certain side of the aisle that prefer we not have civil liberties scream loudly about something that simply isn't true.
542Perm Dude
      ID: 24625213
      Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 02:44
That's hardly a fair comparison. Khahan clearly is stating his impression and saying so. The Rightist Media take their impressions, call them "fact" and then surround those facts with pundits repeating talking points to make it so.

We all have impressions, and that isn't a bad thing. We need to treat people fairer--not doing so, or making false comparisons to score some political point is a bad thing.
543Tree
      ID: 395323014
      Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 11:22
my point was that Khahan seems to be getting his information about the ACLU from the Rightist Media.
544Boldwin
      ID: 55415309
      Fri, May 30, 2014, 11:12
Losing your kid to 'predictive neglect'.

Government insanity. "Hi! I'm from the government and I'm here to steal your kid."
545Boldwin
      ID: 55415309
      Fri, May 30, 2014, 20:06
Walking home from school? Criminal!

Infanticide still politically correct.
546biliruben
      ID: 28420307
      Sat, May 31, 2014, 09:20
Gotta agree with you there. I think if your kid hasn't walked or ridden home from school by himself by 10, you have seriously hampered his development.

Now all the other baggage you pack into this makes it, as usually, difficult to agree with you.
547Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Fri, Jun 06, 2014, 18:14
545 Women terminate pregnancy for many reasons but its usually economic ultimately. Stigmatizing bastard children is really an economic thing since the whole idea of a heterosexual family is really just about the responsibility of raising children in society.

If somehow our society could figure out how to support every child born out of wedlock along with their mothers who must remain at home to raise them, then I might allow myself the luxury of recognizing the beginning of life as something other than birth. Reducing the number of out of wedlock pregnancies is a great way to reduce the problem but that isnt the choice of anyone other than parents.

Meanwhile, we are who we are, get used to it, its not changing anytime soon. Raise your children however you feel you must, but remember not everyone has your same ethics, and nobody wants to hear any holier than thou crap from anyone.
548Boldwin
      ID: 5752368
      Fri, Jun 06, 2014, 19:39
Some people are not so eager to roll over and let their society get sabotaged relentlessly down to a bunch of state raised immoral brainless eloi.
549Perm Dude
      ID: 294531914
      Thu, Jun 12, 2014, 09:43
Is there a FEMA camp near you?

Don't worry about packing. They won't let you bring it anyway.
550Boldwin
      ID: 385491121
      Thu, Jun 12, 2014, 09:50
The natural end state of your (sharing and caring warm and fuzzy) ideology.

Because free people do not accept tyranny willingly.
551Perm Dude
      ID: 294531914
      Thu, Jun 12, 2014, 10:48
Should have just titled it "Boldwin Bait."
552Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 15:36
Umm,

You guys dont want FEMA to plan for disasters?
553Boldwin
      ID: 165371318
      Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 19:42
If they would only stop designing ours.

How would you feel if you discovered FEMA documents listing curly haired gay activists as their number one enemy?
554sarge33rd
      ID: 390471112
      Sun, Jun 15, 2014, 10:57
I'd feel like Boldy had done a data dump thru my printer and loaded me up with all his BS. Question asked, question answered.
557Boldwin
      ID: 5661819
      Fri, Jul 18, 2014, 20:08
They should be led thru the streets and horsewhipped.
We have entrusted power to people who are intellectually and morally unfit. [the DCFS - B] They should no longer be permitted to wield it.

Back in the 1990s I was on Tennessee’s Juvenile Justice Reform Commission. I remember the folks from DCS giving excuses as to why they weren’t providing kids in their custody with a legally-mandated education. They were shorthanded, they had transportation problems, the kids didn’t want to go. . . . All the same reasons, I noted, given by the parents from whom they had taken the kids for not sending them to school.

I liked being on that Commission because, as a tenured professor, I could state the obvious truths that the apparatchiks could not — though afterward they’d often thank me for doing it. But what these people need is something worse than a tongue-lashing. - Best selling author, law professor, world's leading blogger, Glenn Reynolds
558biliruben
      ID: 229341622
      Sun, Jul 20, 2014, 13:11
We live in the safest place, in the safest time in likely the history of the human race, yet we can't give of our kids the freedom essential for them to grow up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-the-parent-trap.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=article
559Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Mon, Jul 21, 2014, 14:39
Many of today's suburban boys are pussies due to the absurd mothering in our society. Girls treat them as their BFF instead of a potential mate. No wonder there are so many gay boys now, that's the only way they'll get any sex.

Tired of your kid getting picked on at school? Tell him to quit being such a tattle-tail wuss. Afraid that advice will get his butt kicked even more? Tough, he's gotta learn some social skills somewhere along the way.

Raise your boy to be a wuss and you should be jailed for child endangerment. Raise your boy to be a bully, and you should be jailed for child endangerment too, cause some tortured kid will prolly shoot him and all of his classmates.

Of course, we could just blame the teacher for our parental failure. Or just send him to the military to give him the discipline and self-respect we were scared to dole out when he was younger.
560biliruben
      ID: 561162511
      Mon, Jul 21, 2014, 15:28
I'm not sure I'm going to touch your "gay boy", "pussy" and "military is the great solution", rants.

Pretty much all my friends that are ex-military have had huge problems adjusting to life in mainstream America. I'm not sure that's mainstream America's fault.

That said, I do think we are far too over-protective in our society. It does not allow kids the freedom and independence to experiment, and yes, often screw-up which is essential to learning and growth.

Whether that makes an entire generation or two pussies or not, I can't say. I'm thinking not.
561biliruben
      ID: 208491113
      Mon, Jul 21, 2014, 15:52
Conservative concerned about criminalization of proper parenting.

This last issue presents a distinctive challenge to conservatives like me, who believe such work requirements are essential. If we want women like Debra Harrell to take jobs instead of welfare, we have to also find a way to defend their liberty as parents, instead of expecting them to hover like helicopters and then literally arresting them if they don’t.


Egan: Let them eat dirt.

Somehow, we’ve arrived at a moment when a kid playing by himself, Internet-free and helicopter-parentless, is a surprising thing. Huck Finn may be deep in the American DNA, but he’s disappeared from the summer landscape, replaced by the boy in the bubble. No dirt, no unplanned moments, and no time for discovery.
562sarge33rd
      ID: 286252213
      Tue, Jul 22, 2014, 14:25
Ken Hamm apparently believes God's power and mercy are limited.....

Creationist Ken Ham, who recently debated Bill Nye the Science Guy over the origins of the universe, is calling for an end to the search for extraterrestrial life because aliens probably don't exist -- and if they do, they're going to Hell anyway.

"You see, the Bible makes it clear that Adam’s sin affected the whole universe," Ham wrote on his blog on Sunday. "This means that any aliens would also be affected by Adam’s sin, but because they are not Adam’s descendants, they can’t have salvation."


*smdh*
563Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Jul 22, 2014, 14:33
On a related matter, Ham called for an end to air flight to other countries for the same reason.
564Seattle Zen
      ID: 576301411
      Thu, Oct 23, 2014, 12:18
Sometimes children are best left in “bad” homes.
Evidence is pouring in that keeping families together – even those deemed dysfunctional – is less harmful than pulling them apart.

It’s a U-turn in thinking and practice for child advocates, as new programs emerge with the aim of keeping children in their homes while fixing families.

“When the state has to be a parent, we do our best. But it’s never best for the state to be a parent if we have the family as an option,” said Kevin Quigley, secretary of the state Department of Health and Human Services.

Things are changing, slowly, but they are changing.
“The children removed from their parents do not fare well, and most are returned to their families with little change other than further damage to their already fragile parent-child bonds,” said Sullivan, a clinical psychologist in Medford. “The trauma and associated negative effects of removal can last a lifetime.”
565Boldwin
      ID: 510591420
      Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 17:51
From The Onion
566Boldwin
      ID: 49572022
      Sun, Aug 09, 2015, 11:14


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