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Subject: Weekend Reading for Conservatives
Posted by: azdbacker
- [14713820] Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 22:14
I recently had my most-viewed blog post, an in-depth review of my opinion of the best conservative blogs. It's quite long and perfect for a weekend read. Non-conservatives who can enjoy good material from an opposing view should also appreciate it.
I spent a good deal of time on this, so feel free to let me know what I'm missing; I don't expect it's much because this is basically my life's work nowadays.
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1 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 20:14
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feel free to let me know what I'm missing
The point.
Mostly unfair on my part and not intended to be personal attack...I just believe that generically, conservative thinking is not concerned with either the welfare of the people with whom we share this planet or those people without wealth or hope of wealth.
However; contrary to conservative thinking, I will fight for your right to express your opinions often and where-ever, nor will I label you as un-american.
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2 | sarge33rd
ID: 76442923 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 20:27
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Agree entirely with what Taxman said. You write;
I decided three years ago that the future of real journalism is in blogs.
Blogs for the most part, are not journalism. They are editorials, written from one view point andnot intending to "report the news" but rather influence the decisions of the reader so as to make those decisions closer in line with what the individual blogger believes. Unfortunately for bloggers across the globe, the primary readership of any given blog, is those who already hold essentially the same beliefs. IOW, for many, many blogs; it is simply an ideology patting itself on the back as the reader sees what they already think.
You REALLY want to learn? Read "liberal" blogs. Read the views of those who disagree with your POV.
Taxman hit it on the head, "What are you missing?"...the point.
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3 | Boxman
ID: 571114225 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 20:43
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I just believe that generically, conservative thinking is not concerned with either the welfare of the people with whom we share this planet or those people without wealth or hope of wealth.
What uniformed lurker horses#it. You got any other generalizations about groups you'd like to make or do you just reserve your Taxman's Select for conservatives?
My ultimate goal as a conservative is for people to be independent of the incompetent gov't machine. Your goal therefore must be to have people rely on you for their very existence: healthcare, retirement, education, etc.
Can I generalize then that you are therefore in favor of enslaving Americans to their gov't?
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4 | Perm Dude
ID: 59741919 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 20:49
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Goverment is the people. You can't divorce them.
But I can't disagree with the original post, and think Taxman and sarge are offbase on this one. azdbacker lists his favorite conservative blogs, but semi-scientific rankings to come up with them. The fact that he doesn't list liberal ones seems to miss the point, IMO.
I might have some problems with many of the opinions on the blogs (and have said so elsewhere). I also think he might be missing a few. But they're really a reflection of his own opinions, and how he came about them. Nothing wrong with that.
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5 | sarge33rd
ID: 76442923 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 22:01
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which PD, is the point. Blogs ARE opinion. Not journalism. At least not to the extent that journalism involves reporting the news. Liberal Blogs, by and large reflect the opinions of its readership. Same with conservative blogs. Each, is "preaching to its own choir".
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6 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 22:22
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Goverment is the people - PD
1) In what possible sense is the government me.
2) Besides stealing me blind and leaving my retirement in shambles what do you think the government ever did for me? Besides the tiny fraction of duties actually constitutionally mandated?
3) Who has the government ever helped who they hadn't kneecapped first?
The government is as useless as a dead cat and harmful as anthrax.
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7 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 22:25
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...and as welcome as the mother of all cockroaches.
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8 | Perm Dude
ID: 59741919 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 22:58
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Read yer constitution much?
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9 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 23:31
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Any idea what the limits of government are as stated by the constitution, PD?
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10 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 00:56
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) In what possible sense is the government me.
2) Besides stealing me blind and leaving my retirement in shambles what do you think the government ever did for me? Besides the tiny fraction of duties actually constitutionally mandated?
3) Who has the government ever helped who they hadn't kneecapped first?
The government is as useless as a dead cat and harmful as anthrax.
Baldy...I'm sorry... I must have missed the post where you disavowed the "W" administration F*cking future generations with the goodness of convervative ideology.
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11 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 01:11
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Can I generalize then that you are therefore in favor of enslaving Americans to their gov't?
Boxman...normally I wouldn't reply to such drivel..but I can't resist. Explain to me..or point out the post that I missed.. re: how shifting the tax burden from the wealthy to the (used to be) middle class in some way un-enslaves the majority of the american population. I am not even going to get into the republican enrichmant of the war machine causing the massive federal deficit during the past 6 years which does enslave all americans for the forseeable future.
your attack is truly unenlightened.
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12 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 01:52
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Taxman
Indeed you did miss it if you think Bush is a conservative or you think that I think he is.
He is a globalist neocon.
Further America including it's war machine is bankrupt. The only thing that has been enriched in actuality is global government's power.
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13 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 02:19
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I perused a few of the blogs listed.
Lots of Edwards. Ed Morrissey had a short and somewhat disappointing piece on South Ossetia; disappointing given his sterling reputation.
What was completely missing was any comment that crude prices dropped dramatically this week and the stock market had its best week in months - after Congress adjourned with Republicans demanding a return to vote on a free-for-all for the extraction industries.
You'd think it would have been a great opportunity for conservatives to praise the workings of a free market without government interference.
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14 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 02:31
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More likely an example of the people's wallets only being safe when Congress is out of session. If Pelosi is running that scared of a vote on reducing drilling restrictions investors must be factoring in the inevitible reductions into their futures trading.
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15 | azdbacker
ID: 14713820 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 02:35
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Ed Morrissey had a short and somewhat disappointing piece on South Ossetia; disappointing given his sterling reputation.
I would assume, although I don't want to put words in Morrissey's mouth, that he, like most Americans really don't know what to make of the situation there yet, since it just sorta popped out at us.
I know I'm clueless on it. Hence my "Go Bulldogs" comment.
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16 | azdbacker
ID: 14713820 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 02:36
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Good game grammar. That tells me I've had enough beer for the night.
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17 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 03:07
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he[Morrissey], like most Americans really don't know what to make of the situation there yet, since it just sorta popped out at us.
That's why this segment was disappointing:
The US received howls of criticism for its targeted strikes on insurgents who deliberately hid among civilians in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Even Barack Obama criticized American tactics in the latter, saying that all we were doing was “air raiding villages and killing civilians”. Israel got the same criticism during its war with Hezbollah, which also hid among civilians.
So when will we hear criticism from Obama, MoveOn, and the rest of the critics over these tactics by Russia? Georgia is fielding a uniformed army, clearly identifiable and operating under command of the state. Why does Russia need to bomb civilian centers under these conditions?
Besides wanting an immediate repudiation from Obama et al(without mentioning that the Georgians killed something like 1,400 Ossetians in the original attack), he omits that several Russian jets were shot down, evidence of somewhat high tech anti-aircraft artillery, making hitting a ground target a bit tougher.
We have yet to have a plane shot down during 7 years in Afghanistan, 5+ years in Iraq, actually 15+ years in Iraq if you count the years of the no-fly zone.
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18 | azdbacker
ID: 14713820 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 03:20
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Interesting. You're the only person I've found so far who seems to be knowledgeable on the situation.
Just goes to show that nearly every one of us has a tendency to give a knee-jerk fall-back position when faced with something we aren't very educated about. I try to avoid it, but I know I'm not always successful.
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19 | Boldwin
ID: 176322815 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 03:37
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We are all victims of the media 'black-hole-ing' of the former USSR republics.
Reporting on Russian shenanigans in these republics would have made great reading and there was far more to be reported on than the poisoning of Yushchenko, elected leader of the Ukrain.
Cover like that media malfeasance leads to actual deaths unlike the spurious accusations against talk-radio.
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20 | Boxman
ID: 571114225 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 06:42
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Baldy...I'm sorry... I must have missed the post where you disavowed the "W" administration F*cking future generations with the goodness of convervative ideology.
normally I wouldn't reply to such drivel..but I can't resist.
I can, save this, if you think Bush is a conservative stick to your 1040s or 1099s Taxman because basic political vocabulary is over your head.
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21 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 014826271 Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 08:40
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We have yet to have a plane shot down during 7 years in Afghanistan, 5+ years in Iraq, actually 15+ years in Iraq if you count the years of the no-fly zone.
I'm pretty sure I recall at least a spy plane being shot down in Iraq. FWIW.
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