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Subject: Obama Nominates a Socialist Posted by: Jag - [460211812] Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 06:30 'Liberal' use to be a dirty word and for me it still is, but even worse is Socialist. Obama should be blasted for putting a socialist in office, but it is hardly even being mentioned by the MSM. Socialists offer nothing of intellectual value. Socialism, has not worked, can not work and never will work, to think otherwise goes against history and common sense. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/12/obama-climate-czar-has-socialist-ties/ | |||||||
| 1 | biliruben Leader ID: 589301110 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 06:46 |
Man, I wish we would let the Jags of the world invest their social security in WAMU stock. Don't worry, Jag, I'd toss you a buck in your cardboard box under the bridge to help you keep warm with your bottle of Night Train. | ||||||
| 2 | Tree ID: 1311551521 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 10:00 |
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| 3 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 10:38 | Not sure it's news when a lifelong hardcore marxist nominates a socialist, but I get ya, Jag. | ||||||
| 4 | Pancho Villa ID: 51546319 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 10:47 |
Using the word socialist without context is meaningless. The socialist GI Bill program allows military veterans to attend college on the public dole. Is this an example that Socialism, has not worked, can not work and never will work, to think otherwise goes against history and common sense. What about socialist programs that provide highways, roads, bridges and public utilities? Would you prefer that we have private water companies that stick a pipe into any river or lake wherever they please and provide water only to those with the most capital? If you have a problem with Carol Browner, other than the generic and problematic charge of socialist, why not actually spell out the reason for your opposition? She has a long and verifiable record as a former director of the Environmental Protection Agency, as well as her association with the Commission for a Sustainable World Society, she was on the board of directors for the National Audubon Society, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for American Progress and former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection. That should have given you plenty of ammunition to research why you oppose Browner(or even the establishment of the job Obama created), but you opted out for a pathetically lazy attack on socialists. You haven't learned much on your hiatus. | ||||||
| 5 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 11:16 | Was that supposed to make anyone like her selection better? Lol | ||||||
| 6 | Pancho Villa ID: 51546319 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 11:31 |
I don't like the appointment because I don't like the idea of creating what I consider an unnecessary position. It's unclear to me exactly what this position entails, whether it's strictly advisory or active in developing policy. The federal government needs to be shrunk, not expanded. But those are actual arguments, as opposed to Obama should be blasted for putting a socialist in office, but it is hardly even being mentioned by the MSM. Socialists offer nothing of intellectual value which is just ideological gibberish and in no way addresses Browner, the position, or her socialist background. How can Jag discuss intellectual value when he offers none? Was that supposed to make anyone like her selection better? Lol I'm having a hard time finding intellectual value in that post as well. | ||||||
| 7 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 11:57 |
Her being socialist is key, not some inconsequential issue. I love birds, love nature, believe in sustainable technology and societal structure, but people like her have corrupted and destroyed organizations that purport to stand for those issues. Now she gets to destroy departments of the USA executive branch that are responsible for those issues. | ||||||
| 8 | Pancho Villa ID: 51546319 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 13:37 |
people like her have corrupted and destroyed organizations that purport to stand for those issues. Now she gets to destroy departments of the USA executive branch that are responsible for those issues. You've made the accusations, but you haven't made the case, or even attempted to. | ||||||
| 9 | nerveclinic ID: 26107108 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 14:00 |
Our departing President is clearly a socialist. For example the prescription drug program he signed into law is one of the biggest handout programs in the history of our country. People who smoke cigarettes and don't eat healthy or workout get sick more often and need more prescription drugs in old age. This program is a pool that takes money from healthy people to say for these prescriptions. That is pure Socialism. Then there are the government bail outs that the Bush administration has pleaded for. Probably the biggest example of socialism in our countries history in terms of price tag. So it's strange you are complaining about a "climate czar" in terms of Socialism. Have you posted about the Socialist President who just left office? | ||||||
| 10 | walk ID: 181472714 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 14:25 | Well said, NC. Spot on. A thread-stopper. Cha-ching! | ||||||
| 11 | Jag ID: 460211812 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 15:19 |
The prescription drug program was a cluster f..., but that has nothing to do with nominating a socialist. This reminds me of my liberal friend, he is going deaf and won't admit it. I tell him he needs his hearing checked and he tells me I am going deaf too. I can hear a fly fart from 20 paces. Until last week, Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar, was listed as one of 14 leaders of a socialist group's Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for "global governance" and says rich countries must shrink their economies to address climate change. I thought just being a socialist would be enough, but I guess I was wrong with this crowd. Accord to this nutjob, we need Mexico, Iran, Cuba, Russia etc... setting American policy and we also need to stop worrying about the recession and even shrink the economy more, because we all know how struggling economies are better for the environment. Even by socialist standards, a World Society and shrinking the economy is complete lunacy. | ||||||
| 12 | Perm Dude ID: 12021208 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 15:31 |
Anything else you are hearing from the Moonies, Jag? Even that article doesn't claim she's a Socialist. It claims she has socialist ties (don't we all? You do as well, it seems). She is as much a socialist as the British Labour Party, according to your expert article. Of course, you probably believe Obama to be a Socialist too, in which case the fact that he is appointing a[nother] socialist would be NBD, yes? | ||||||
| 13 | Jag ID: 460211812 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 15:41 | I have been shocked and pleased with most of Obama's appointments. I hope he continues down the moderate path. I want what is best for the country, unlike the Pelosis, Franks, Reids and MSM, who seem to put their agendas ahead of the country. | ||||||
| 14 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:44 |
Have you posted about the Socialist President who just left office? - Nerve Exhaustively. The globalism that his family plan endorses is a socialist globalist one world government. | ||||||
| 15 | tree on the treo ID: 521142259 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:45 |
I want what is best for the country, unlike the Pelosis, Franks, Reids and MSM, who seem to put their agendas ahead of the country. while those are just speculations on your part, conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh and our own AzDbacker have gone on record stating they want the obama presidency to be a monsterous failure, with such things as gas shortages and bankrupt cities like nyc and la. that is not only truly putting your own agenda ahead of the country's, but it's disgusting, anti-american, and, quite frankly, puts you in the company of such luminaries as osama bin laden and the rest of the scum who want to see america fall. | ||||||
| 16 | Jag ID: 460211812 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:49 | They are not elected officals, I could make a longer list with names like Olbermann, Moyer, etc... | ||||||
| 17 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:49 | The sooner you realize it's arsenic, the sooner you stop eating it. | ||||||
| 18 | Perm Dude ID: 12021208 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:51 | The sands have shifted beneath you, Baldwin... | ||||||
| 19 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:53 | The clay and the iron will be crushed. Dan 2:44. | ||||||
| 20 | Perm Dude ID: 12021208 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:54 | Yes, he was talking about socialists, wasn't he? | ||||||
| 21 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:55 | The clay part, yes. | ||||||
| 22 | Perm Dude ID: 12021208 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 17:01 |
No. Cast your mind back--you know, to the 20th century when socialism was developed. Knowing Biblical verses won't help you very much if you continue to misapply their lessons. | ||||||
| 23 | Baldwin ID: 360281920 Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 17:07 | The incompatible mixture of iron and clay perfectly pictures the state of human affairs in the last days of marxist and establishment struggle. | ||||||
| 24 | walk ID: 181472714 Wed, Jan 21, 2009, 12:30 | There is no god. | ||||||
| 25 | Tree ID: 1311551521 Wed, Jan 21, 2009, 13:05 |
"God is dead" Die Fröhliche Wissenschaft: 108; 125; 343. | ||||||
| 26 | biliruben Leader ID: 589301110 Wed, Jan 21, 2009, 22:50 |
"Nietzsche is dead" - God | ||||||
| 27 | Tree ID: 1311551521 Thu, Jan 22, 2009, 08:46 | lol. that too. | ||||||
| 28 | boikin ID: 532592112 Thu, Jan 22, 2009, 10:29 |
The incompatible mixture of iron and clay you mean rebar | ||||||
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