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0 Subject: The Unpatriotic Political Right

Posted by: Mith
- Dude [01629107] Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 10:37

The Direction of the GOP II or campaign 2008 thread is pushing 900 posts and the title is now quite dated in that the entwined suggested topics (the 2008 presidential campaign and the direction of the GOP) have been unambiguously established (even if the right refuses to acknowledge that the campaign is over). We now know that Barack Hussein Obama is the President of the United States and we now know that the direction of the GOP is blind anti-patriotic obstructionism.

Sound harsh? Take a look around.

We now live in an America where the political right's most influential voices openly wish for the President of the United States to fail.

We now live in an America where the political right rakes the President of the United States over hot coals for urging school children to academically challenge themselves.

We now live in an America where the political right purposefully plants seeds of military disloyalty to the Commander in Chief of the United States Military

We now live in an America where the political right endeavors to demonize even so proud and pro-American an effort as the President's bid as the to bring the 2016 Olympic Summer Games to the United States of United States of America.
1DWetzel at work
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 11:48
Thread title's a little short, isn't it?
2Mith
      Dude
      ID: 01629107
      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 12:29
huh?
3sarge33rd
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 13:22
What was the Rights cry during the past Administration? "Love it or Leave it" I believe was said more than once.
4DWetzel
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 13:25
I thought about ten more adjectives would have made it more descriptive, is all. ;)
5Razor
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 13:33
"Unpatriotic" is being kind.
6Mith
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 17:09
Credit where it's due.

Graham has hardly been my favorite senator over the years, particularly during presidential election years, but I appreciate and applaud him seperating himself from the fringe. Why can't more of them grow a pair and do the same?
7biliruben
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      Thu, Oct 01, 2009, 18:38
Indeed. Too little of that. Too much Joe Wilson.
8Mattinglyinthehall
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      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 15:27
Conservative Conference attendees literally cheering US defeat:


So much for the pro-America side of the political aisle.
9Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 37838313
      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 15:29

More so-called conservatives revel in America's defeat.
10sarge33rd
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      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 15:58
So what's next? Cheer the next terrorist bomber who kills a bunch of Marines in a barracks?
11Mattinglyinthehall
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      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 16:01
Well, maybe if some of the Marines are from Chicago.
12Mattinglyinthehall
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      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 16:31
More credit where it is due: Joe Scarborough
Count me as one conservative who is disappointed that President Obama's hometown will not be hosting the 2016 Olympic Games.
13Mattinglyinthehall
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      Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 17:47
TPM: The GOP's New Foreign Policy: Undermine American Diplomacy

mcjoan at Kos:
As Kleefeld points out, these aren't just overseas junkets, these Republicans aren't only creating their own version of foreign policy, they are acting on it by traveling overeas and directly undermining official U.S. policy. The only similar situation that comes to mind under the Bush administration was when Reps. David Bonior, Jim McDermott, and Mike Thompson visited Iraq prior to the American invasion. Prior to the invasion. They came back convinced that there were no WMD in Iraq, and that the Bush administration was hellbent on taking us into that war, anyway. And they were, and continue to be excoriated by the Right for that trip.

Here we have Republican members of Congress directly undermining American diplomacy. Where are the great patriots among the Republican party or in the punditocracy now?
14walk
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      Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 13:32
This could come back to haunt the republicans in the 2010 and even 2012 elections. The proportional number of supporters they have who are in the "we/they" camp (we being anti-Obama everything at the expense of true conservative beliefs cos Hannity and Limbaugh said so) is shrinking. It's a losing strategy, but they will be the loudest in the geriatric and small-town town halls.
15Boldwin
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      Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 13:59
The only haunting is going to be the ghost of failed candidates past...

[namely McCain]

...running around promoting and arranging financing for failures just like him to dominate the primaries.

16sarge33rd
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      Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 20:16
and so, we have the American Right, blaming McCain for the failings of the American Right. No acknowledgment that he was your chosen candidate. No acknowledgment that the Right has gone to the FAR, FAR edges of extremism and THAT is what is costing them in the national standings. No, it's all that bstrd McCains fault.

Tell me again, how the Republican mantra is "personal responsibility"?
17Perm Dude
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      Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 09:13
With stones already in-hand, they have to throw them at someone, sarge. Can't very well blame themselves.

The GOP is sooo much like the Democrats of the late 70s-early 80's right now. Angry, clueless, and unable to realize that their own policies and approach to government is their political downfall.
18Boldwin
      ID: 1794329
      Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 22:10
Yeah, the GOP should fill up their slate with candidates only a democrat could love.

No one buys this except people with bags of cash to hand out like Soros and China. None of you people think this is the road to a healthy GOP. None of you. You are just gleefully handing them rat poison and hoping they bite.
19Tree
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      Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 23:01
the GOP should fill up their slate with candidates only a democrat could love.

the GOP should do whatever they want.

But if what they want is to fill up their dance card with people like Palin or Santorum or anyone who agrees with most of what the Becks and Limbaugh's of the world have to say, then the GOP will continue to be less and less relevant.
20sarge33rd
      ID: 2995483
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 04:54
You see Boldwin, that is where your problem lies. I see the GOP, as a bad thing in most regards, as it pertains to most Americans. Their policies, by and large, enrich the rich and kick the poor in the face, ensuring they stay that way.

What if I see a "healthy GOP", as being UNhealthy, for America? (Except to act as a counter to Dem excesses which to be honest would ALSO be unhealthy for America.)
21Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 09:33
i will disagree with Sarge here.

a healthy GOP - or at least a strong opposition party - is crucial to our form of government. one party holding ALL the power - even if it's my party of choice - can be a bad thing.
22biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 09:50
This just highlights the problem with a system which has become atrophied through rules and money as a defacto 2-party system. In a democracy which allows for more parties, the parties that devolve into extremism can rightly be kicked to the gutter, and a healthy centrist party can blossom to take their place. Now we are, at least in the legislature forced into a single-party system, because the Republicans have abdicated any responsibility for running the country.
23boikin
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      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 11:06
This just highlights the problem with a system which has become atrophied through rules and money as a defacto 2-party system.

I would say it is more 1-party system and 2-party in name only.
24Perm Dude
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      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 11:12
This is the kind of situation which gives rise to new parties. Particularly since neither party seems particularly good at the job of governing when they have the power to do so.
25boikin
      ID: 532592112
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 11:25
I wish/hope that is true but i think the republicans and democrats have stacked to deck against that one. I think the best you can hope for a better reincarnation of the republicans.
26Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 12:19
i agree with you there PD.

i said several years ago i saw the Republicans splitting into 2 parties - one more moderate, one more radical.

in time, that moderate party would also draw in moderate Dems.
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