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Subject: Chris Christie for President
Posted by: Tree, not at home
- [3910441615] Wed, Feb 16, 2011, 15:42
He's been in office just a year but fellow Republicans everywhere are highlighting the former federal prosecutor's get-tough approach to fighting runaway spending and taking on Democratic-friendly unions.
Fans argue it's the right prescription for addressing fiscal emergencies at all levels of government and rehabilitating a party image damaged during bloated George W. Bush years.
basically posting this as a placeholder for when Baldwin shifts gears in a few months to a new flavor, and this way, the thread is already here. |
| 1 | Mith
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Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 11:12
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I'm not highly familiar with Christie's policies but from what I've seen I think the GOP could do a lot worse.
And he appears to have discovered the Holy Grail of moderate Republicans who seek the presidency in this political climate: the ability to trick the hard right into thinking he's one of them.
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| 2 | Boldwin
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Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 18:27
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Oddly enuff my sweetie, AC and I disagree on Christie. Great on facing down public sector unions and rescuing states circling the bankruptcy toilet. And I'll grant those are big big pluses atm. But he's not on the side of the Tea Party revolution on any other issue from abortion, socialist medicine...he's just wrong on a host of issues.
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| 3 | Boldwin
ID: 131561710
Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 18:33
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Whereas AC says R's somehow convince Christie to run or lose in 2012.
And if ever there was a guy who has promised not to run, it's Christie.
His excessive popularity however should be a cautionary warning to public sector unions. Their audience isn't calling for a second curtain call and shouting union solidarity. They are calling for an end to the collusion of public sector unions and democratic pols.
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| 4 | Boldwin
ID: 131561710
Thu, Feb 17, 2011, 18:36
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So much fun listening to Christie radio ads in Illinois seducing business out of Quinn's misrun state. If ever there was a contrast between good and bad policies. Who would have thot a few short years ago that NJ could even make the business friendly case?
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| 5 | Mith
ID: 4310402110
Fri, May 03, 2013, 12:36
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Just in case enough time had elapsed since Hurricane Sandy for "the base" to start thinking favorable things of Chris Christie again.
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| 6 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Fri, May 03, 2013, 13:36
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it is so hard to gauge Christie. sometimes, he comes across as a blow hard. other times, he seems like a man of conviction, with heart.
i wonder what a Clinton-Christie ticket would do to shake things up.
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| 7 | Mith
ID: 4310402110
Fri, May 03, 2013, 15:04
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Katrina Trinko at The National Review:“I think he will be concerned about that the day after the election in November,” says a well connected Republican familiar with New Jersey. Right now, Christie’s focus is on holding his seat this fall — and becoming the first GOP governor since Tom Kean in 1985 to win 50 percent or more of the votes cast. “When he cracks 50 percent — and he will — that is a significant talking point for him, and then he can attend to the conservative base after the election,” the source predicts.
Another source close to Christie says that the governor is currently reaping the benefits of his public tension with conservatives. The intense media coverage over the Conservative Political Action Committee’s decision not to invite Christie to speak, for instance, plays well in blue New Jersey. “It gives him a good narrative for his reelection campaign. It’s done wonders for him. The mainstream media loves him. A lot of Democrats love him. A lot of Democratic donors love him,” says the source.
And ultimately, Christie believes that reelection in a blue state, along with his successful conservative policy initiatives and his willingness to buck liberal constituencies such as teachers’ unions, will win conservatives back. “The fact that some conservative elites are annoyed with him and conservative media types are annoyed with him, I think he believes that’s repairable,” the source adds.
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| 8 | Razor
ID: 3044315
Fri, May 03, 2013, 16:04
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It does not matter how moderate Christie is now. Once he becomes a Presidential candidate and the base forces him hard to the right, there will be no coming back. Look at what happened to McCain and Romney. Both were respected moderates until they ran for President. McCain lurched right some; Romney quite a lot.
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| 9 | Mith
ID: 4310402110
Fri, May 03, 2013, 16:49
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Well it should be noted that Christie will have the benefit of having seen both McCain and especially Romney fail after their respective lurches rightward.
It might be smartest to Christie (should he run for president, of course) to address the issue head on and play up his willingness to compromise and his refusal to cow-tow to the loud minority fringe that claims it is "the base" while also standing on his conservative pro-austerity economic record.
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| 10 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Fri, May 03, 2013, 18:00
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if i wanted a Democrat to win the presidency in 2016, i would be much more afraid of a Chris Christie who stands by his convictions while willing to compromise, than i would Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, or any other huckster that "appeals to the base".
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| 11 | Perm Dude
ID: 201027169
Fri, May 03, 2013, 18:44
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McCain and Romney moved Right because that is where the Republican Party is these days. Romney won "independents" because those moderate Republicans who left the party and who couldn't bring themselves to refer to themselves as Democrats swelled the number of "independents."
I don't envy any non-crazy person trying to obtain the GOP nomination for President. But don't underestimate Christie's ability to put on the crazy either. He's long gone out of his way to mock people in NJ he doesn't like (union members, etc). He can bring the smack.
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| 12 | Boldwin
ID: 0438412
Sat, May 04, 2013, 13:42
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Romney won "independents"?
Really? If you take out the purely anti-Obama vote, he wouldn't have many votes.
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| 13 | Tree
ID: 50459412
Sat, May 04, 2013, 13:59
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he wouldn't have many votes.
this can be said of pretty much any Republican running for president. only once in the last quarter-century has a Republican presidential candidate gotten more than 50 percent of the popular vote.
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| 14 | Boldwin
ID: 55428510
Sun, May 05, 2013, 11:43
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Nothing in that comment has any bearing on anything I posted.
If you take away the people voting for Romney in the primaries because they were convinced by the MSM that he was the only republican with a chance, he couldn't have gotten 5% of the vote.
McCain had no support, only Palin did. Romney had no support, only anti-Obama voters.
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| 15 | Boldwin
ID: 55428510
Sun, May 05, 2013, 11:51
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And the surest sign Christie would be the worst possible candidate is that Libs are pushing his name first up the flagpole this early.
Could not even get an invite to CPAC. Will get booed if he gets anywhere near the speakers' platform at the R convention.
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| 16 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Sun, May 05, 2013, 12:17
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And the surest sign Christie would be the worst possible candidate is that Libs are pushing his name first up the flagpole this early.
i assure you, on my list of preferred GOP Candidates, Christie ranks behind Cruz, Paul, Palin and any number of wing nuts who would have no chance of winning.
Christie? he's the GOP's best shot, at least right now.
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| 17 | Perm Dude
ID: 201027169
Sun, May 05, 2013, 13:45
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I don't think the Far Right understands that when the Left says they want a particular GOP candidate, usually that means that they can kick their butt.
Meanwhile, they continue to revise history in the past elections so as not to have to change.
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| 18 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Sun, May 05, 2013, 14:13
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I don't think the Far Right understands that when the Left says they want a particular GOP candidate, usually that means that they can kick their butt.
for folks not living in reality, it's just not possible to understand that.
when a statement as simple as if i wanted a Democrat to win the presidency in 2016, i would be much more afraid of a Chris Christie who stands by his convictions while willing to compromise, than i would Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, or any other huckster that "appeals to the base" is misconstrued as nd the surest sign Christie would be the worst possible candidate is that Libs are pushing his name first up the flagpole this early, there is a fairly heavy duty level of disconnect.
that one cannot discern the difference between "man, i'm worried about this guy" and "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this person run" is a sign of a very confused mind.
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| 19 | Boldwin
ID: 24433519
Mon, May 06, 2013, 03:59
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I've got yer brier patch right here.
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