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0 Subject: FAO Deliberate Sabotage

Posted by: Boldwin
- [35615181] Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 14:48

That's Friends of Obama.

Obama's good friends at Acorn, now renamed Affordable Housing Centers of America currently explicitly trying to bring down the economy. in SEIU board member Stephen Lerner's words:
The subversive plan to destabilize the nation's financial system was revealed earlier this year by Stephen Lerner, a board member of SEIU who is officially on leave from the union. Lerner is influential in leftist organizing circles and has reportedly visited the Obama White House at least four times.

Lerner said a strategy was needed that addressed the following questions: "How do we bring down the stock market, how do we bring down their bonuses, how do we interfere with their ability … to be rich?" It is important "to politically isolate them, economically isolate them and disrupt them," he said.

Lerner said he decided that JPMorgan Chase would be "a really good company to hate." If leftists really believe capitalism is in a "transformative stage," they "need to confront this in a serious way and develop a real ability to put a boot in the wheel."

Lerner said "we really are trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital, for how corporations operate … there are actually extraordinary things that we could do right now that would start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement."
There is a frequent guest at the WH openly planning the sabotage of America.

Developing a boot in the wheel is undeniably a reference to the fundamental marxist classic tactic of throwing a shoe [sabot] into the wheels of industry. He openly says 'we' need to get really good at sabotaging america.

Disrupting and creating uncertainty for capital is disrupting and creating uncertainty for capital.
1Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 15:01
We just went through a long negotiation in which the Tea Party made clear it had no problem crashing our country's credit rating to hurt Obama politically.

Sorry if I don't take the WND's projections altogether seriously. Particularly for a quote from March. From a guy who was fired from the SEIC board the previous November.
2sarge33rd
      ID: 1964421
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 15:05
First, you say: "in SEIU board member Stephen Lerner's words:"

Immediately followed by: "The subversive plan to destabilize the nation's financial system was revealed earlier this year by Stephen Lerner"...

So, either Stephen Lerner is speaking in the third person AND is calling his own plan "subversive" OR (far more likely) your intro is less than accurate/honest.

Why this surprises me in the least...is unknown as yet.
3sarge33rd
      ID: 1964421
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 15:25
just out of curiosity...

"we really are trying to disrupt and create uncertainty for capital, for how corporations operate

Doesnt Beck et al do this very thing, hawking gold-gold-gold vs munis and stocks?
4walk
      ID: 348442710
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 15:50
As PD said, even if this were in the least bit credible, it's peanuts compared to what REALLY just happened in our government. Slashing spending without raising revenues during an eco downturn, and all while extorting the economic stability of our country, and our debt obligations and standing...Na, let's talk about Acorn. That's where the REAL issue lies.
5Boldwin
      ID: 35615181
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 18:40
Listen to him speak for yourselves.

at the specific point he encourages sabotage or the whole thing in the embed below.

6Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 21:15
And the part about him not being a member of the union leadership you skip over? How about the fact that this was from March but you are only posting it as a result of a new conservative media talking point about it?
7Boldwin
      ID: 35615181
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 21:34
How about we take him at his word?
8Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 21:47
I have no problem taking a private citizen at his word. You seem to be missing the larger points, however.
9Boldwin
      ID: 35615181
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 22:05
The larger picture...larger than, 'Hey after we sleep over at the White House, let's go bring down American commerce, finance and industry'.

The bigger picture and more significant point...yeah explain what that would be and why I should 'look over here', instead of focus on that.
10Boldwin
      ID: 35615181
      Mon, Aug 01, 2011, 22:48
And business gets it.
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