Posted by: Boldwin
- [12492714] Wed, May 30, 2012, 06:41
I haven't been following it real close but as best I can summarize and to the best of my incomplete knowlege, Brett Kimberlin, a convicted felon - mad bomber on the pattern of Bill Ayers, has been making veiled [or not so veiled] death threats against conservative bloggers who have exposed him for what he is. In response the conservative bloggosphere has rallied around those threatened and done their best to defeat this tactic.
This is after Kimberlin spent a good deal of time harrassing the blogger, but at the same time got a 'peace order' against the blogger.
So that's where we are. Liberals are managing to get conservatives jailed for exposing the dirt swept under liberal carpets. --- Liberals are sending swat teams out on raids against conservative bloggers. A 'prank' that is sooner or later gonna get someone killed.
Leading blogger Robert Stacy McCain has decided that he and his family must leave their home and that they can't go back; he officially describes his location as "whereabouts unknown." On Friday, Patterico, an assistant DA by day, revealed a campaign of harassment involving "workplace complaints, publication of personal information such as home addresses and pictures of residences, bogus allegations of criminal activity, whisper campaigns, frivolous legal actions, and frivolous State Bar complaints." Oh, and he was "SWATted" -- he had his home stormed by a SWAT team, complete with a police helicopter and a spotlight. Someone pretending to be him "called the police to say I had shot my wife." An audio expert Patterico hired concluded that "it is probable" that the hoax call was placed by a Kimberlin associate known to have tweeted a public threat against himself and his family.
Erick Ericksen of RedState got "SWATted" Sunday evening; this time, "Someone called 911 (pretending to be) from my address claiming there had been an accidental shooting."
I don't mean to leave anyone out (there have been plenty of others victimized and/or threatened, and, to be clear, it hasn't entirely been bloggers), which is why I encourage everyone to go to the Blaze item, Patterico's post, and McCain's latest to get up to speed on their own.
My main question is basically the same one Patterico asked late Sunday after learning of the Erickson incident: "Anyone else think CNN is going to talk about SWATting now?"
I would expand Patterico's question to the rest of the establishment press. I'd love to be proven wrong, but my knee-jerk response is: "Neither do I." Are they too intimidated to touch it -- or worse, have they convinced themselves that what is going on is no big deal?
Then of course there is the pattern of frivolous harrassment that drove Palin out of office. Liberals are making the Nixon rat@#$%ers look like choirboys in comparison.
One wonders how far the unofficial Obama reelection team plan on taking their hate campaign.
Brett Kimberlin is the convicted “Speedway Bomber” who terrorized Indiana in 1978. One of those injured by Kimberlin’s bombs later committed suicide.
He served 17 years of a 50 year sentence, passing the time becoming a jailhouse lawyer.
Upon release, Kimberlin started the non-profit Justice Through Music. It’s been funded by George Soros’ Tides Foundation since 2005.
Kimberlin’s other organization, Velvet Revolution, supports the Occupy movement.
He has filed over 100 lawsuits against individuals, left and right, who’ve written about him, or simply annoyed him; he “once sued a pornographer for selling him pornography that was not provocative enough.”
He attempts to get opponents fired and has, in one instance, succeeded.
Kimberlin or an associate allegedly filed a hoax police report that sent the SWAT team to the home of Los Angeles County Assistant District Attorney Patrick Frey (a.k.a. blogger “Patterico”).
Literally while I was typing this list, Erick Erickson of RedState was also being SWAT-ed — the victim of another spoofed “911″ call.
Most recently, his threats forced reporter R.S. McCain to relocate his family.
If you don't think this is a big deal, I'm not even sure we can discuss this subject here in America without putting Dave Hall at risk. Maybe we need to discuss that subject first. Should we censor this forum to satisfy people who are essentially domestic terrorists just to keep our forum and our benefactor safe? And if we do what does that say about America today?
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 06:58
And is the mainstream media complicit in these tactics by refusing to cover the story? And what does that say about America today?
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 07:01
Not even a hop and a skip away from jailing a blogger for connecting Obama to Bill Ayers.
Just fill out a 'Peace Order' request with that judge, Obama.
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Wed, May 30, 2012, 08:01
Because of the blog burst, it is nearly impossible to do any unbiased research on this subject.
From The Blaze: The Blaze spoke to a clerk at the District Court of Maryland for Montgomery County who confirmed that Aaron Walker was in fact arrested following his hearing with Brett Kimberlin. He was arrested on second degree assault charges that were filed by Kimberlin when Walker, following a separate court hearing, took and held at bay Kimberlin’s iPad.
It turns out that may not be true. Go figure, given Beck.
From David Hodberg at IDB:
It seemed like Walker did himself in when the judge asked, “Where do you see this case going?”
Walker, who has tried to get the Maryland State Attorney to file charges against Kimberlin for filing what Walker claims are false criminal charges against him (see here), replied, “I hope to raise enough consciousness to get the State’s Attorney to file charges.”
“How are you going to do that?” Vaughey asked.
Walker replied, “I’ve been raising awareness. There’s now 400,000 posts on Google discussing him (Kimberlin), and I’m guessing 300,000 of them are not very pleasant. These are people calling for charges to be filed.”
If you are a judge who knows very little about the Internet, Walker has just made it sound as though he’s able to generate all of this Google traffic against Kimberlin. And Vaughey seemed to believe that is what caused Kimberlin to get death threats….
The judge then said that Walker was the type who didn’t want to get into it “mano-y-mano” with Kimberlin but “you want to get together with all of your friends, who have nothing else to do with their time, in this judge’s opinion … and you are creating a conflagration, and you don’t care where it goes. And so you get some freak out in Oklahoma with nothing better to do with his time, so he does the nastiest things he can to this poor gentlemen (Kimberlin). What right does he have to do that?”
“He has no right to do that, your honor,” Walker replied.
“But you incited him,” Vaughey said….
At the end, the judge said, “All I’ve learned here is one guy hides behind the sheets while the other guy suffers. I don’t care what (Kimberlin’s) background is. A prostitute can also be raped. He’s an individual, he’s entitled to his own privacy and can’t be threatened. What I didn’t like is these death threats that are coming and his children are reading it. That is nasty and wrong.”
The judge signed off on the peace order, which means that Walker can’t say one word about Kimberlin for six months.
“I find that this is worse than harassment. It’s a nasty, dirty thing to do to somebody … you’ve got people all over writing these things. He’s got 54 pages that he says come directly from you, and he’s got volumes of people who are doing it.”
So it looks like Walker admitted to sicing nearly half a million nut-jobs on Kimberlin, and the judge took pity. We shall have to see if that pity was constitutional. Probably not.
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Frick
ID: 14082314 Wed, May 30, 2012, 08:38
So conservatives are trying to do basically what they accuse Kimberlin of? Nice to see conservatives acting like children on a playground.
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biliruben
ID: 28420307 Wed, May 30, 2012, 08:52
This looks to me like extremist lawyers on both sides abusing our court system for the amusement of their respective worshipers. Take them both out back and give 'em a spanking.
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Tree
ID: 17039238 Wed, May 30, 2012, 10:28
a Glenn Beck income source is certainly an unbiased news outlet.
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Wed, May 30, 2012, 10:54
Well, sure. But that's pretty much besides the point.
I don't even bother reading most of the links Boldwin provides because they seem to go out of there way to destroy their own credibility.
That doesn't mean there isn't a story there, you just have to find a place where sane people reside to find the truth of it. That was made harder in this case because the nut-jobs were linked in the first ten thousand google hits because of the concerted blog blast.
In this case it looks like there may be a free speech issue which will resolve itself constitutionally on appeal, just like the last one did.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 12:21
Sometime before people are getting away with suing pornographers for not being outrageous enuff, there needs to be a penalty for abusing the legal system and framing mischief with law. Whether that is paying the legal fees of the winning defendant or genuine and applied penalties for lawyers who file frivolous lawsuits.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:01
Lets add another to the list of Democrat dirty tricks. Now all conservatives in the media face a advertiser boycott. Or more precisely advertisers on conservative media outlets face a threatened boycott.
Do conservatives now have to start their own conservative brands across the product spectrum just to stay even? Do they need to threaten the MSM advertisers with hard boycotts? Is that where liberals want this to go? Do they expect conservatives to just sit on their hands while this stuff goes on?
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:10
Oh, and lets be sure and label guys with a landslide victory, minority extremists...dark and lame Igors hobbling around the outskirts of respectable society with their landslide majority win.
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Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:21
Dang. I was REALLY HOPING that this was an announcement that Baldwin was finally going to start his own blog ... instead of selfishly piggybacking on the back of Guru's bandwidth.
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DWetzel
ID: 31111810 Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:30
"Lets add another to the list of Democrat dirty tricks. Now all conservatives in the media face a advertiser boycott. Or more precisely advertisers on conservative media outlets face a threatened boycott."
Do you think consumers should be forced to buy products from companies with which they strongly disagree politically? Or do you think OTHER consumers should only be forced to do business with companies with which they strongly disagree politically -- but if someone tries to do it to you you will come on here and bitch about it further?
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:32
Yeah, extremists never get elected. Not that I have any clue who you are referring to.
Beck? Walker? The hundreds of thousand of whack-jobs out there threatening Kimberlin?
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 15:02
Yeah, extremists never get elected. Not that I have any clue who you are referring to.
The House freshmen.
Next year's Senate freshmen.
Do you think consumers should be forced to buy products from companies with which they strongly disagree politically?
Absolutely not. Let's get a conservative version of every product. We outnumber you. Maybe we can even get the MSM off the air and replaced.
Or we could just play nice and civil. Your choice. Do you feel lucky punk?
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DWetzel
ID: 31111810 Wed, May 30, 2012, 15:26
So, let me see, you don't think consumers should be forced to buy products from companies they disagree with politically.
Yet you're bitching about consumers refusing to buy products from companies they disagree with politically.
So you're bitching about nothing.
Are you off your medications again?
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Tree
ID: 374303014 Wed, May 30, 2012, 15:36
Let's get a conservative version of every product.
start with condoms.
Or we could just play nice and civil. Your choice. Do you feel lucky punk?
LMAO. did you just follow a comment for playing "nice and civil" with "do you feel lucky punk?"
LMAO.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, May 30, 2012, 19:49
Blessing or the malediction.
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Thu, May 31, 2012, 10:08
The House freshmen.
I didn't realize they were involved in this case. Stay on target, Luke.
If you think Glenn Beck represents anything more than a small, nutball slice of America, you are vastly overestimating the numbers of your Comrades of Delusion.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 10:49
bili
Yeah, that's who won the landslide. They actually have a seat in congress, unlike the guy you backed or his RINO counterpart.
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Biliruben
ID: 358252515 Thu, May 31, 2012, 14:01
The guys I backed all won. In a landslide.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 15:42
Coastal anomaly.
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Thu, May 31, 2012, 16:21
This is the birthplace of the tea party, before it was perverted by all the twisted America-haters 'round your parts.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 16:54
It is amusing to hear those who want to turn America into poverty stricken, socialist, ineffectual and irrelevant Greece, call traditionalists America haters.
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biliruben
ID: 41431323 Thu, May 31, 2012, 17:02
If it weren't for all the money liberal cities have been having to pour into rural red-counties and propping up grand temples of capitalism that have nearly destroyed our country, we would be doing much, much better.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 17:10
Perfectly backwards, bili.
Illinois is a giant funnel leading down into the gaping maw of the corrupt failure that is the Chicago liberal machine.
Similar black holes located at the big city liberal machine politics center of your state too, no doubt.
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DWetzel
ID: 31111810 Thu, May 31, 2012, 17:20
Um, no. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with facts and numbers and stuff, but:
Republican-voting states, sucking at the federal teat and taking your money. Why do you love them so?
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 17:50
It is to laff.
This guy is not losing it because blue Chicago is showering red downstate Illinois with too much money.
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DWetzel
ID: 312362513 Thu, May 31, 2012, 18:41
I'll take that as a "DWetzel, you are so indisputably right I am compelled to change the subject in an effort to mask my shame."
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Biliruben
ID: 358252515 Thu, May 31, 2012, 19:09
Take your time on the fact-check before spouting off, boldy old man. You are listening to the bluster instead of checking the unbalanced ledger.
You wouldn't want the liberal cities to turn into city-states; red counties and states would very soon be serfs without the largess we shower upon you.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 20:00
Stop redistributing wealth. I don't care where it is going. Stop it. Robbinghood is a fool.
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Thu, May 31, 2012, 20:04
And while you are at it, quit bribing states to vote socialist. [I'm looking at you, Nebraska]
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Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915 Thu, May 31, 2012, 20:17
Actually, that never passed. Facts matter little when faced with urban legends with good partisan points.
Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival
As I suspected. I'm looking at you Chicago.
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biliruben
ID: 59551120 Fri, Jun 01, 2012, 12:35
I wasn't referring to the one-time stimulus funds. I was talking about the past decades; and also going forward. Money flowing from liberal areas, through taxes, to conservative areas, who then whine about "redistribution".
But you knew that, I'm sure.
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sarge33rd
ID: 353491011 Fri, Jun 01, 2012, 13:03
Like those Mississippi conservatives interviewed on CNN awhile back. "Get the guvment outta my social security and medicare"
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Boldwin
ID: 43492714 Wed, Jun 06, 2012, 20:49
The bloggosphere steps up pressure on representatives to live up to their oaths and preserve our constitutional rights and redress this intolerable first amendment denial. Blogs to go silent except for an appeal/demand to representatives. Friday.
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Boldwin
ID: 1557712 Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 01:02
Ace of Spades explains why Brett Kimberlain is such an immediate threat to you.
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