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Subject: Question for Boldwin
Posted by: Gator
- [19323103] Fri, May 23, 2014, 21:38
I recently read an article comparing the Torah or Old Testament to the Code of Hammurabi and the similarities were striking. Are you familiar with this and if so, as a Christian,how do you explain it. |
| 1 | Boldwin
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:16
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If you were asked to write the basic commandments of civilization...those things so basic they were actually hardwired into the human conscience from birth on so that they manifest as the common conscience of mankind, they come out looking similar.
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| 2 | Boldwin
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:18
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BTW the entire law code in Exodus, is the received law, not just the ten commandments. You will not really find so much co-orelation.
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| 3 | Boldwin
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:31
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Also it's kinda cart before the horse there. The Code of Hammurabi was no doubt based on the same semetic code of conduct as the Hebrews in a general sense as they both harken back to the laws Noah's early family lived by and passed down.
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| 4 | Gator
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:42
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But Hammurabi was written first.
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| 5 | Gator
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:44
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Noah is very similar to part of the epic of Gilgamesh.
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| 6 | Gator
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 10:49
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Code of Hammurabi,
251, If an ox be a goring ox, and it shown that he is a gorer, and he do not bind his horns, or fasten the ox up, and the ox gore a free-born man and kill him, the owner shall pay one-half a mina in money.
252. If he kill a man's slave, he shall pay one-third of a mina.
So if we check Exodus 21:28-32
28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.
29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.
30 If there be laid on him a sum of money, then he shall give for the ransom of his life whatsoever is laid upon him.
31 Whether he have gored a son, or have gored a daughter, according to this judgment shall it be done unto him.
32 If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned.
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| 7 | Boldwin
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 11:13
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Noah is very similar to part of the epic of Gilgamesh.
Noah is very similar to a figure in the early history of nearly every culture.
The Japanese figure for a large boat is 8 stick figures in a boat.
You seem to be operating from the strange fixed idea that Babylonian stories predate Noah's stories handed down.
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| 8 | Gator
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 11:22
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You answered my question,you feel that while the Torah post dates the code, the stories predate the code and were passed down.
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| 9 | Bean
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Sat, May 24, 2014, 12:33
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And then there is the new testament:
About interpretation of the law:
Luke 10:25-37
And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And He said to him, "What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?" And he answered, "YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."
About out of court settlement:
Matthew 5:25
"Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison.
About lawyering in general:
Luke 11:46
But He said, "Woe to you lawyers as well! For you weigh men down with burdens hard to bear, while you yourselves will not even touch the burdens with one of your fingers.
Bean 1:1
Q: What is black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
A: Your hated neighbor's incessantly barking pit bull.
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