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Subject: League E(lite) Season 4
Posted by: TBRaiders
- Donor [56426320] Wed, Jun 27, 01:40
New season calls for a new thread.
TB's predictions:
National League
San Diego overtakes San Fran and wins the NL West. San Fran still has a strong team and will be the wild card but BPG is done messing around.
New York looks to have a strong hold on the East. Hopefully he has figured out what to do with all that excess pitching. Yes he did, trade them to Chicago, wayward home for declining aged vets.....lol
Cubs have basically the same talent to win the Central again. Houston and Milwaukee won't make it easy.
American League
Toronto and Boston battle for the top spot in the East. If Brock posts that he is going to win it all this year he will doom himself and Bluto will win it again.
Kansas City dukes it out with the Sox. KC has shown what great pitching can do and should win their division again.
Oakland is primed and ready. Anaheim has a great team and it will be a good season for both. Oakland will have their number this year, though.
Oakland beats New York in 6 for the World Series. I told J to trade me Fogg but he just wouldn't listen. Now I gotta go win the Series.
This is my year. If you have some high priced vets and are delusional about winning the Series, save yourself some money and trade them.
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| 93 | J
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ID: 50726110
Fri, Jun 29, 16:15
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I think he just blocks everyone!!! ;)
I dont think I've ever seen TB on aim more than once maybe?
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| 94 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Fri, Jun 29, 16:24
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No one is on right now except matt g and everyone is on the board it seems.
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| 95 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Fri, Jun 29, 16:38
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I do block everyone. Sometimes I unblock and chat. MattG and me bsed the other night.
The real reason you don't see me is because I am at work and not on aol =)
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| 96 | J
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ID: 50726110
Fri, Jun 29, 16:46
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me too, no aim at work, but i'm usually on the internet all day!
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| 97 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Jun 29, 18:20
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Actually TB, decreasing wins to .8 would just increase the value of IP and K. I was actually thinking that maybe we should decrease IP to .8 while sticking with (wins * 10) and K. The way to make ERA and WHIP more important is to make losses less important. .2 or .1, either way is probably OK.
I'm thinking we need a different formula for closers, because W and IP should probably be less important than they are for starters, and saves should count more. I'd also like to make WHIP matter more because the variations are less. How about this for closers:
(Saves * 10) + (Wins * 5) + IP + K
divided by
ERA + (2 * WHIP) + (.1 * losses) + (.2 * (G - Saves))
(The last part is to account for blown saves. We could take it out if it doesn't work.)
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| 98 | skinneej
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ID: 25513163
Fri, Jun 29, 19:21
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I don't agree with taking games minus saves for blown saves because I generally use my closer in the middle relief slot once per week. Also, if my middle relief gets injured for a game or two I move my closer up to take his place until he returns. It would be nice if the commish added a blown saves category, but I'm not sure it would be very accurate. I still see pitchers get wins when they should get saves, and many times errors do not result in unearned runs when they should. For now, I think the order of importance for relievers whould be Sv, whip, era, Losses (negative), and lastly Wins because I don't feel we should reward a closer that blows a save and then falls into a win. I don't think K's should be included because outs are outs-it shouldn't matter how a pitcher gets them.
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| 99 | skinneej
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ID: 25513163
Fri, Jun 29, 19:34
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For relievers I like a simple formula like:
(5*SV-3*L+W)/(ERA*WHIP^2)
This equates 5 saves to a win, and takes 3 wins to make up for a loss. It also gives WHIP a little more weight than ERA. I ran the formula on several different made up stats, but have not run it yet on last season's stats to see who comes out on top.
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| 100 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Jun 29, 19:35
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I have no problem with taking out games minus saves. You're probably right about wins too, we should devalue them even more for closers. And WHIP could be counted more. I do think K's should matter some though. At least in real life it's a sign of how dominating the pitcher is. What about this for closers:
(Saves * 10) + Wins + Strikeouts
divided by
ERA + (3 * WHIP) + (losses * .2)
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| 101 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Fri, Jun 29, 19:44
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Yours looks good to me too, though I still think K's should be in there somewhere - what about:
(5*SV-3*L+W+(.5*K))/(ERA*WHIP^2)
So 10 K's equals a save.
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| 102 | axp113
ID: 250402413
Fri, Jun 29, 21:20
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Great job guys!!! I think the formulas that BPG came up with some help from others, will work very good. I agree with skiny's 98 post 100% AND BPG i am giving you props for those formulas, now we have someting to work with.
SO far we got:
hitters
(OPS * OPS * games played) + ((Runs + RBI + SB)* .25
SP
[(Wins * 10) + IP + strikeouts] / [ERA + WHIP + (Losses * .1)]
RP
(5*SV-3*L+W+(.5*K))/(ERA*WHIP^2)
thanks for the ideas. i really appreciate people who try to help improve the league. And with this we could use these formula's for all stars and use say the top 5-10 for Cy,mvp,foy, and roy and vote on those few.
peace
axp113
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| 103 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Fri, Jun 29, 22:52
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Hey PP or J, I need two more pitchers from the AL and NL to complete the all-star rosters.
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| 104 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Fri, Jun 29, 22:54
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Also there won't be any links for the award winners stats unless someone wants to make up a page for their players. The voting was concluded after those pages were deleted from GSB so I can't copy them down and link them like I did for season 1 and 2.
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| 105 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Fri, Jun 29, 23:34
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Nice trade MattG. Were you on acid when you approved that one? lol
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| 106 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Sat, Jun 30, 00:29
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I think you have wins worth too much, and losses worth too little, but i have not really explored it yet.
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| 107 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Sat, Jun 30, 02:24
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That is great guys it would be alot better to determine all stars on formulas and awards jsut vote.
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| 108 | Brock
Donor
ID: 495121712
Sat, Jun 30, 19:40
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Timing, I don't even know if acid would be strong enough for somebody to make a trade like that. I really can't even think of words to describe it. Trading has sunken to a new low.
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| 109 | Jay-P
ID: 47132140
Sat, Jun 30, 19:56
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Forget about Bonds! League E's got James Blair. Hitting .300 with 20 homers and 50 RBI's and we're only 4 "weeks" into the season. He's on pace for 90 homers and 225 RBI's.
Now that I've jinxed him, he's available for a quality starting pitcher and a decent third baseman to fill in...
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| 110 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Sat, Jun 30, 20:17
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Time to brag for the AL team with the most wins.....
Brock sucks I spanked his ass. How are you bring in Rakers in the game Brock? You know I had to kill him.
Skineej dont even bring them weak pitchers here. I spanked your ass to. Scored 27 runs in 3 games at your house. The division is all mine.
Matt G.. only played yo one game so far, but of coure i won like i should 99.9 percent of the time.
have a nice day.
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| 111 | Brock
Donor
ID: 495121712
Sat, Jun 30, 22:06
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PP - I don't know how old you are or how much math you've had but where I'm from, 26 is more than 24.
You got lucky against my bullpen. I rocked 2 of your 3 starters but unfortunately only won 1 game. You'll be mine next time. I've owned you since season 1 and I don't see that changing.
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| 112 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Sun, Jul 01, 03:26
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uh, brock ummm ok buddy i know you are a little slow, and you are a former p2 member so i will take it easy on you, but ummm DUMB ASS I TOOK TWO OF THREE AT YOUR HOUSE!!!!!!!!!! and um last time i checked 2 was better then 1 and 18 was better then 13 so ummm who should go back to school? thats what i thought. so just face it im better then you dont worry many teams will admit that this season.
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| 113 | MattG
ID: 515461320
Sun, Jul 01, 17:15
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Refering to the trade I made, No I wasn't on Acid. Nor anything else, I know it seems a little lopsided but Kerins hasn't done sh!t for me since I got him. Getting rid of him brings my payroll down. I wanted to Move May to the Bullpen cause He blows as an SP and actually pitches well in LR and Williams is horrible as LR but can be a decent closer at time. I liked the guys I got cause I needed a 5th starter to replace Mays and I figured I would need a little depth at SP when Grybowski retires since he's 38. May is also 39. I know what I am doing with this team, it may be a couple years before I contend, but I have a direction I know where I am headed.
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| 114 | Worm from Wammies
ID: 437541618
Sun, Jul 01, 18:14
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Lets see here........What happened today between Worm and San Fran you ask......well first of all worm left wammies at 12:30 today in order to meet san fran at the designated place by 2:00. i had to ride a piss/vomit laced subway 20 minutes after a 30 minute drive in bumper to bumper traffic. keep in mind i missed the cubs game in which they won to keep a commanding lead on the cardinals. but i arrived 10 minutes early to the spot we were to meet. i waited, and waited, and waited. no san fran. i gave him a 30 minute time table to show. he never showed. so back on the piss/vomit subway, back to the car and back to the traffic. got back to wammies in time to catch the ninth inning of the game. got a hold of san fran and he said that the meeting place wasnt confirmed. well it was. so we re-scheduled the event to take place thursday. there will be pics taken for anyone interested. it should be a good time though non-the-less.
also in my journey to boston i found out that i only live 30 miles from one p2er named brock. which in that case maybe i could continue my winning ways against brock when i return home. also ironically july 26 i am going to be at wrigley field in which case i believe pp lives in chicago and am wondering if he would like to take the game in with worm. i may have one extra ticket that i would be willing to part with. so if you two are interested let me know.
right now i have to get back to my hotel and find out what kind of entertainment i can get tonight.
peace out
wormz
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| 115 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 56426320
Sun, Jul 01, 19:06
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The Worm is a traveling man. That's cool. Hope San Fran doesn't wuss out on you again.
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| 116 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Sun, Jul 01, 22:27
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PP - Nobody questioned if 2 was or was not more than 3. But you previously stated that you had the most wins in the AL(24) yet Bluto had 26. There is your error. I corrected you. You're welcome.
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| 117 | Purple Pimp
ID: 393341822
Sun, Jul 01, 22:52
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lol, im a idiot my fault.. little drunk when doing that post i guess. Anyways i still kicked you ass :)
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| 118 | Vic Vega
ID: 2248176
Mon, Jul 02, 08:39
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For what it's worth, Carmody no-hit the Astros in Week 5 Sunday...then SanFran came to town and slapped me around.
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| 119 | Whitey
Sustainer
ID: 2543539
Mon, Jul 02, 09:04
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I am willing to give up cash, prospects and/or MLers for a very good SP. If anyone has a horse they are willing to deal, let me know..
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| 120 | TB
ID: 1311481612
Mon, Jul 02, 10:43
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Define what a horse is?
I have Rocky Williamson 465 468 317 460, total rating 1710, PQ 429.6, who is currently 1-2 with a 9.27 ERA. In 24 career games he is 7-9 with a 5.79 ERA.
Or perhaps we could use Rip Wells 443 446 310 492, total rating 1691, PQ 427.4 and his current 6.47 ERA. He is 2-5 in 8 games this season. 15 walks and 17 K's in 32 innings this season. Tell me what Control rating means again?
Probably too much value on a horse. Look at Ralph Moss 464 397 412 371, total rating 1644, PQ 408.3, he is 4-3 with a 3.67 ERA. Good enough for 14th in the AL.
My personal favorite "Stud" is Barry Short 399 471 398 390, 1658 total rating, PQ 412.86, 4-2 with a 4.03 ERA. Even with his sub 400 control he has more K's then walks. If 400 is supposed to be an average MLB stat, which we know it isn't, he is below average in all his pitches but that wicked breaking ball.
I thought I was seeing a trend here and maybe answering my own question. Perhaps the further away from 400 any one stat is, the worse a guy will pitch. That doesn't explain guys like Mellana, Ramsay, Robertson, and the examples are endless.....
Ranting? Nope, I am confident these guys can turn it around. I do wonder exactly how important ratings can be on any given sim.
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| 121 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Mon, Jul 02, 16:47
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Whitey, all of my starting pitchers except Tucker could be traded. let me know if there are any you would be interested in.
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| 122 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Mon, Jul 02, 16:49
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Since SanFran and i didn't play basketball this weekend, my team decided to kick his team's ass.
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| 123 | St. Louis Psychos
ID: 2713109
Mon, Jul 02, 17:33
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TB, I am willing to trade Brenegan. His stats for this season are better than what you currently have but for the past three years theya re about equal. Total rating of 1644.
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| 124 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Mon, Jul 02, 23:51
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Well, i just tried to log on, and the damn commish says he is doing some work to some leagues, including E. I had better see some damn cool sh!t. The commish really has provided very little additional services or features in the past 3 months. and anyone who says i should feel sorry for him because he is busy, or he has kids, or because his grandma just went through some prostate exam(yes grandma: his family is pretty strange) i don't give a damn. In the words of IceT...
I'm a commish killer, better you than me.
I'm a commish killer, fuhq gsb brutality.
(I am just pissed I can't log in after a few cold ones)
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| 125 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Tue, Jul 03, 00:22
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If you want a peak, try this.
http://206.61.100.153
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| 126 | St. Louis Psychos
ID: 43340197
Tue, Jul 03, 09:16
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Question for somebody. when you are preparing your for the draft and go to set your round by round draft prefernce, down towards the bottom it says "max picks" and lets you select 0-9. What does that mean? I know it is probably simple but can't think what it would mean, we can only pick one player per round as far as I know.
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| 127 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 03, 09:19
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Wammie, you get my Nerd emails?
I bet you feel pretty dumb for saying the commish hasn't been doing anything when he set up a new server and added some awesome changes?
Replying to emails you can leave the old message attached. Look at the draft options. You can choose how many you want to select at each position(the max number). That will prevent me from drafting more then 5 RP's and 2 catchers any given year.
The new site is quicker and I have gotten less server errors while running my test team, so I am hopeful that trend continues.
TB
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| 128 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Tue, Jul 03, 09:39
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SLP - lets say you don't want to draft more than 8 catchers...set the catcher's setting to "8"
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| 129 | St. Louis Psychos
ID: 43340197
Tue, Jul 03, 10:25
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gotcha, thanks J!
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| 130 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Tue, Jul 03, 10:47
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I got the emails TB, and replied to ya.
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| 131 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Tue, Jul 03, 11:35
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I love the "reply with previous text" option!!!!!
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| 132 | Jay-P
ID: 47132140
Tue, Jul 03, 11:45
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I got this email from you in test on my Oakland team there, TB:
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From: Arizona (Test)
To: Oakland (Test)
Subject: disregard test
Date: 7/2/2001 8:44:32 PM
I just tried to email my E team, but the first one I sent I never changed from test league. If you got it twice, though, let me know.
TB
Trying to send this to my league E Oakland Team. If someone else gets it, could you please email me at Oakland or even just post on the E message board that you got it?
Thanks.
TB
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| 133 | Sanfran
ID: 41656311
Tue, Jul 03, 12:04
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This is for Worm or Wammie, I can't get thursday off, we are too busy and i have to train the new interns. So this leaves tommorow which i have off, or the weekend. I play paintball every saturday so i cant on saturday and worm is leaving that day i think. SO basically that leaves tommorow. Unless you want to do it after i work on Thursday, but i dont get out till 5 and I dont get home till 6. Let me know guys, i cant get on im, my school is giving me problems, since no one is there for break, and i am too busy now at work. Let me know guys I really want to kick worm's ass.
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| 134 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 03, 12:19
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Thanks for posting it Jay-P. I didn't realize the commish was changing over the servers last night. I was just screwing around and seeing if the emails worked.
TB
ps. The transactions page is showing everything from last year as well as this year. The commish knew about it before he brought the rest of the leagues over. I guess he figured it was more of a hassle to clean it up.
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| 135 | worm
ID: 437541618
Tue, Jul 03, 13:53
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Worm knew this would happen san fran. I travel 1500 miles to kick your ass, and you don't show up twice. You give me some lame ass excuse the first time about me not being called, then we set up another day, and you manage to back out on it too. yesterday while @ the beach, worm injured his leg and is hampered by this freak incident. I plan on getting gooned up and laid tonight, so with the lack of sleep and injured leg i may be slowed tomorrow, but if you want to get your ass whooped meet me at the museum again tomorrow @ 10 o'clock.
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| 136 | Sanfran
ID: 41656311
Tue, Jul 03, 14:11
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HEHE - I can do 10 tommorow, you see worm, you never asked how we would identify ourselvs or who would bring a basketball or even if you talked to wammie, but since you like to make your conversations short and sweet, i can do tommorow at 10:00. Is Wammie comming too are is it just you and me? Do you have a basketball or you want me to bring mine? I will be wearing a grey sleveless shirt and blue shorts, with or w/o a basketball. If it is raining what is the plan? See I like to have everything discussed before you show up to a meting place and then DONT CALL ME TO SAY YOUR THERE? Christ a blind monkey could follow better instructions than you. Lets see if we can get it right this time.
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| 137 | worm
ID: 437541618
Tue, Jul 03, 15:07
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sanfran, i have seen your pic. i know what you look like. as long as we have a meeting place, i think that would be enough. i could spot you coming from a short distance. i will be with wammie tomorrow. i cannot speak for him but i am not afraid of some rain. i may never be back this way again so we must get it done tomorrow so i can then go celebrate my nations independance and my victory! i went to the basketball hall of fame yesterday for inspiration and i found it in the bobby knight section.
i didnt bring a ball with me and from the way wammie was talking he doesnt have one. so thank you for bringing that fact up. yes, please bring yours.
it isnt a WNBA ball is it?!? i dont really pick out my clothes the day before like you do so i dont know what i'll have on. but the other day i had on a white T-shirt and blue shorts. i imagine that is what i'll have on again. i'll be sitting on the main steps at the museum. not sure how traffic will be tomorrow so make sure you hang around a bit. but i'll try and be 10 minutes early again. i liked the blind money reference. it fuels me more!!!!
Time-10:00 A.M EST
Meeting Place-Main steps Museum
Event-Worms dominance of SanFran/Wammie in some hoops.
We can play 21, one on one, or find some other people to play games. hell we can even all three be on the same team and show some city folks how it is done!
Lets Get It On!!!!
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| 138 | Sanfran
ID: 41656311
Tue, Jul 03, 15:18
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Sweet, thanks worm, its all set and ill be there tommorw at 10:00. Ill sit on the bench in front of the horse statue.
OK see you guys tommorow.
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| 139 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Tue, Jul 03, 17:03
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Too bad I wasn't in Beantown to kick all your asses. I have a feeling none of you would put up much of a fight. I've played and schooled Wammie many times. I'm sure you other two would fare no better.
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| 140 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Wed, Jul 04, 00:07
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Well, just when it looked like we got rid of a stupid owner, Kylie, we got another one in return. Did you guys check out the trade that Tampa Bay made? There are about 5 owners here that I wonder if they have a clue about what the hell is really going on.
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| 141 | Timing
ID: 305541216
Wed, Jul 04, 16:09
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Anyone know if there will be a sim today? I'd actually like the extra day to set my draft.
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| 142 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 56426320
Wed, Jul 04, 16:26
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I don't know. We didn't get our morning sim in the test league. I wouldn't mind an extra day, but I am going to set all my drafts up today just in case.
We keep getting shorted on pitching prospects in league E(lite). I just rated all my pitchers and it is pathetic. The guys in H were bitching that it's a weak draft. I have yet to see P2/E's best draft better then any other leagues worst draft.
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