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Subject: League E - The Playoff Drive
Posted by: Brock
- Donor [371582223] Mon, Jul 09, 17:09
Who are the contenders and who are the pretenders? We'll find out in the next few days.
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| 150 | axp113
ID: 250402413
Tue, Jul 17, 10:16
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I sent out ROY ballots in the gsb email.
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| 151 | Bluto
ID: 5481013
Tue, Jul 17, 11:28
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I have nothing against posting, it's just that most of the time all the posts are about people complaining about how the sim is screwing them and how they should be better or it's crap like we've been typing back and forth now.
I just prefer not to be a part of it most of the time (which is not to say that it isn't warranted sometimes... a little trash talk is always good once in a while).
I like this league, don't get me wrong. Most of the owners are involved with their teams and very competitive. But i don't believe the fact that i don't post much makes me a worse or less active owner.
Back to GSB. If anyone is interested in Tim Garces (SP) or Chris Gorrell (SP), I would like to trade one after the WS. We can discuss a possible deal now if interested. I'm looking for a power hitting MLBer or a couple good prospects in return.
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| 152 | Whitey
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ID: 2543539
Tue, Jul 17, 12:35
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Bluto - I'm gonna e-mail you in GSB...
Whitey
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| 153 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 14:40
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If we're going to have awards voting then we should have a vote. Poffenberger is much more deserving of ROY than Moss in my opinion.
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| 154 | Whitey
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ID: 2543539
Tue, Jul 17, 14:46
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Moss has some pretty sick numbers....do you feel that way because Moss is a reliever and Poff "the Magic Dragon" is a position player??
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| 155 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812
Tue, Jul 17, 14:58
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I agree we need to have a vote. Just because Moss is FOY doesn't mean he should be ROY (even though I voted for him). I can totally see why someone would vote for Poffenberger. I would rarely vote for a reliever but Moss' numbers are just too good.
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| 156 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 15:06
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Position players are always more valuable than closers who pitch in 1/3 of the games. If you're going to vote for a closer Dunbar was better than Moss.
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| 157 | Whitey
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ID: 2543539
Tue, Jul 17, 15:22
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Dunbar didn't pitch enough games, Ty Ming. You gotta admit that...if he pitched a full season his number would have definitely been better than Moss'.
Aren't Dunbar and Poff "the Magic Dragon" both on Anaheim?....hmmm, maybe that's why you're pushing them so hard
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| 158 | Whitey
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ID: 2543539
Tue, Jul 17, 15:25
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oops...I just saw that Poff is on Baltimore and he di have a heck of a year, but I personally can't ignore the 46 saves and low ERA of Moss..I'm sure Poff and Dunbar may get a few votes..
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| 159 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 15:25
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Why Tee, you're obviously wasting my time.
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| 160 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Tue, Jul 17, 15:35
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I just checked the web site and it looks like all of you picked the brewers to knock me out of the playoffs. Thanks guys :-)
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| 161 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 15:43
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Go Brewers! ;o)
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| 162 | J
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ID: 50726110
Tue, Jul 17, 16:33
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Next! Go Angels!!!
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| 163 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Tue, Jul 17, 16:49
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Yes, its finaly come down to me vs Timing, ohhh this is going to be good.
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| 164 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 16:51
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It's about time those chicken sh!t Giants stopped avoiding me. Your day of reckoning is here son.
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| 165 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Tue, Jul 17, 17:01
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It dont get any better than this........
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| 166 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Tue, Jul 17, 17:02
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That was such poor grammor... :-(
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| 167 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Tue, Jul 17, 17:26
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I'm going to knock the grammar right out of ya!
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| 168 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Tue, Jul 17, 17:34
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Maybe there will be an earthquake in San Francisco and the WS will be cancelled. Hopefully mother nature can get it right this time.
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| 169 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 17, 17:55
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I agree with Ty Ming and I did vote for Poffenberger. Poffenberger had a great year. As is, anyone can pitch well in the closer role. Wammie thinks he got a steal by getting Bello from me. Play him in MR and he will have a 5ish ERA and zero saves.
I picked San Fran to win it all this year and on the poll as well, but let's bring one to the AL Ty Ming.
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| 170 | Wammie
ID: 437541618
Tue, Jul 17, 17:58
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Bello was a steal for what i gave up. He is not a MR, not good enough, but he is good enough to go one inning at a time and pick up saves in the 40's. how is mappes doing in the AL?
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| 171 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Tue, Jul 17, 18:07
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I hate to agree with TB and Ty Ming but I too voted for Poffenberger. He had a lot better year than Moss. You can put almost anybody in the closer's roll and he can rack up the saves. Look at Bello and look at Travis from my team. I got Travis at the trading deadline and he had about 16 saves after that for me and his ratings suck.
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| 172 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Tue, Jul 17, 18:28
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I voted for Moss, not just because of the saves but the ERA. In GSB a sub-3 ERA is awesome. Also looking at the number of games he pitched he did not blow many save opportunities. I'd rather have Poffenberger any day, but Moss had a great season.
I'm not sure why you guys seem to think that guys perform better as closers, or that a guy who does well as a closer would do worse in MR. I haven't seen any evidence of this at all. The sim does not care whether you pitch 3 innings in a row or one per day for 3 days. You'll get the same results over the long term.
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| 173 | Vic Vega
ID: 2248176
Tue, Jul 17, 19:04
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Ouch-nice series, SanFran. Good luck against the Angels. For what it's worth, I voted for Dunbar. I just like the fact that his team won 23 of the 24 games he finished.
My SP Creger only pitched in 3 games at the end of last season, so he's technically a rookie as well. Not good enough to beat Camp for the award, but good enough to make the outstanding rookie class even better.
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| 174 | Vic Vega
ID: 2248176
Tue, Jul 17, 19:09
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I'm an idiot. Toronto won 50 of the 52 games Moss pitched in, so I'm officially changing my vote. I'd rather have Dunbar on my club, but Moss definitely had the better year.
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| 175 | Purple Pimp
ID: 27633140
Tue, Jul 17, 19:36
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hey, guys the new site interface is up check it out.. There still some stuff to be done, but thats basically what its going to look like. It should be all done by friday.
Tell me what ya think
PP
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| 176 | axp113
ID: 250402413
Tue, Jul 17, 20:44
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looks good. keep it up.
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| 177 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 17, 20:49
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Wammie,
Mappes played in all 162 games and he played them as my 2B. In 592 at bats (8th or 9th depending on my batting order) he had 70 walks and 152 hits. 10 of those hits were doubles and 22 homers. He had 96 runs and 104 RBI's. He also had 25 stolen bases. His OBP .335, SLG .385, and OPS .720 weren't stellar but he filled his role.
BPG, I don't know if I can explain this right but I will try to. I am not saying that a pitcher will "perform" better as a closer but his stats will be better. Any reliever you put there will have better stats. Something maybe not taken into account for the closer who loses the game is that the tie-game ends when he gives up the one run in the bottom of the inning. They are only coming into the game when it is close, within 3 runs I believe.
Let's say he comes in the bottom of the ninth with a one run lead. Let's say he gives up a run to tie the game up and the bases are loaded. With zero outs the next batter knocks one into right field. Game over. The potential was there for a disastrous inning. If it was the 7th inning, rather then giving up 2 runs and just getting the loss/game over, he could have given up 5,6,7, who knows how many runs?
Any pitcher can get shelled in one inning or pitch flawlessly at any given time. The closer has many more pitching opportunities where they either get the save or give up a small amount of runs and the loss.
That is why I think closers have "inflated" stats compared to other relievers. Hope that makes sense.
TB
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| 178 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 17, 21:09
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SP Curt Wright 449 379 403 443
A 26 year old 3-3-4 pitcher who seems to be still improving across the board. He was my first draft pick in League E(lite) and I have to say I am pretty happy with that choice.
How is everyone else's first pick doing?
Hey Bluto, I was thinking the other day about how your team just keeps on winning and how you did try to "rebuild" or should I say, how you offered anyone on your team to the league. Garces has been a stud and has been one of the biggest reasons I have changed my views about having to have the real high Control rating.
I do tend to bitch about the sims not treating me right, but it is bitching just to bitch. If I was too serious about this stuff I would have an ulcer by now. I enjoy the useless banter we have in the league. Talking smack or "whining" about getting sim-jacked is great real-world stress relief. Pissing Brock off is almost a hobby of mine.
=)
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| 179 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Tue, Jul 17, 21:20
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OK, I see what you're saying TB. It's hard to say how much that inflates a closer's stats. In Moss' case, probably not that much since he seemed to have very few blown saves. Probably has more effect on someone like Bello. I guess that is another reason it would be nice to have the sim count 1/3 IP.
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| 180 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Tue, Jul 17, 21:20
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Add getting bashed by Brock to that list TB.
My #1 pick of the first draft was a 4-3-1-440 OF who was going along just fine until week 17. He quit improving in AVG then. He is 474-415-291 and is still going up in HR but he's going to have to get to about 460 in HR to be worth anything and I doubt if that happens. Just when I though I had a very good player, he wuit on me.
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| 181 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Tue, Jul 17, 21:26
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My #1 pick from the first draft was Bobby Scheible (4/4/3 3B). He's at 379/417/356/388 and still improving across the board but obviously has a ways to go.
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| 182 | Brock
Donor
ID: 371582223
Tue, Jul 17, 21:34
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I think it's about time for a new thread. Fewer people will read this because of it's length.
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| 183 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Tue, Jul 17, 22:47
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What's cool about having your draft analysis, BPG, is that we can go back and see how each player developed. It will make for a good article on the web site. Starting on the 23rd, I am taking the next couple weeks off work and maybe I will go in and check it out.
Probably about a season too soon, but I will look and see how some are developing. I would be a little concerned about that 379 average going into the 4th season. I cannot imagine him going up 100 points next year and not many guys keep developing into their 5th season anymore. My guess is that he stops below a 450 average. Hopefully I am wrong.
TB
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| 184 | J
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ID: 34451212
Tue, Jul 17, 22:57
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#1 pick in Season 1: Bunny Jimenez 20 SP 300 464 372 404
Still improving everywhere I believe, I can confirm that tomorrow. I just wish his fastball would get higher ;(
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| 185 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Tue, Jul 17, 23:16
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Yeah, I am a little concerned about Scheible although his rate of increase is still decent. His AVG rating started out extremely low, much lower than his HR rating, so I think he's got a pretty good chance to break 450 AVG.
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| 186 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Wed, Jul 18, 00:07
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Damn I'm ready for next season. My pitching staff is going to be the most talented I think I've ever had from 1 to 10.
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| 187 | Buchster
ID: 2134520
Wed, Jul 18, 01:00
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My first pick was Doc Law a 3-3-4 RP. He's currently at 448-386-457-452, and has just been called up at the ripe age of 24.
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| 188 | Brock
Donor
ID: 26328214
Wed, Jul 18, 06:57
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Do you have any rookies on your staff for next year Timing?
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| 189 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Wed, Jul 18, 08:47
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Bunny seems to be done with her Changeup. She gets real frustrated and refuses to cut her nails. But control and Breaking are still chugging.
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| 190 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Wed, Jul 18, 08:53
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Holy sh!t, I just looked at Ty Ming's staff:
David Moraga RP 1834
Ken Sims SP 1814
Bill Swift SP 1811
Brad Clontz RP 1810
Jeff Darwin RP 1806
Todd Belitz SP 1781*
Jeff Montgomery RP 1745*^
John Seaman SP 1715
Jerry DiPoto RP 1714
Tom Papish RP 1691^ (AAA)
Jeff Harris SP 1686
Bill Pulsipher SP 1679^ (AAA)
Bobby Munoz RP 1675^ (AA)
Bert Moses RP 1675^ (AA)
*-just called up.
^-still improving.
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| 191 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Wed, Jul 18, 08:57
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Now, S.F.
Ralph Mahoney RP 1857
Cody Morrison RP 1848
Tommy Darrow SP 1847 ^
Shawn Camp SP 1799
Greg Mix RP 1799
Mark Redman RP 1791
Jack Chapman RP 1784 ^ (AAA)
Pat Doyle SP 1763
Dewey Sullivan SP 1763
Rick Letcher RP 1703 ^ (AAA)
Jim Melton RP 1703
Giovanny Lara RP 1697
Tommy Ball RP 1686 ^ (AAA)
And to think, I was excited about my 1680 pitcher I have in AAA ;(
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| 192 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423
Wed, Jul 18, 10:16
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Those are some pretty awesome staffs. I am excited about my late-season callup Mike Wasdell. He's at around 1800 and still improving, best pitcher I have ever developed in my farm. I can't decide whether to use him in the rotation or the pen. He's got a 256 stamina.
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| 193 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Wed, Jul 18, 12:24
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I just promoted Belitz and Montgomery for the World Series. It's so difficult to get to the Series that I don't want to let it pass without having my best guys up even if it costs me a year of MLB service. They should both be rookies next year unless someone has some objection to them having played in the World Series. It sucks that Darwin is on the DL right now, I sure could use right now!
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| 194 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Wed, Jul 18, 13:30
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Remember i wont have Mix next season, i wanted to resign him but i just cant afford it.
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| 195 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Wed, Jul 18, 16:31
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My work here is done.
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| 196 | J
Sustainer
ID: 50726110
Wed, Jul 18, 16:32
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congrats Ty Ming!!!!!!!!!
The San Fran curse lives on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I won my 2nd straight League B Title too...woohoo!!!!)
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| 197 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820
Wed, Jul 18, 16:53
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Congrats timing i just cant win the big one
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| 198 | TBRaiders
Donor
ID: 57351168
Wed, Jul 18, 17:42
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Congrats Timing!!!
Sorry about your bad luck San Fran. I am sure there are dozens of GSB managers who would love to have your regular season success. It is only a matter of time before you win a Series.
TB
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| 199 | Timing
ID: 286591511
Wed, Jul 18, 19:33
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Thanks, congrats to you too J. I've been telling SanFran I was going to kick his ass for a long time now so I'm glad my team was up for it.
Promoting Belitz really paid off for me. I think he won both of the games he pitched.
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