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0 Subject: Season 5 draft

Posted by: Big Poo Generator
- [57844423] Mon, Jul 30, 22:26

Since the website is in flux right now, I'm posting my draft analysis here for the time being to satisfy popular demand. Here it is!

1 Cleveland: Herm Park SP

Great prospect, but was #2 on my draft card because he is 22 years old. Grade: A-

2 Pittsburgh: Russ Dammann RP

Consensus best prospect in the draft. Should be an ace in the majors by the time he is 22. Excellent stamina for a RP makes him a possible starter. This is the first time I can remember the best two prospects getting picked 1-2 (just in the wrong order). Grade: A

3 Detroit: John Hines SP

Hines is a very nice prospect, though there are a few guys I would have taken ahead of him. He was my seventh-rated prospect, but you could make a case that he deserved to go #3. There's a big dropoff after Park and Dammann. Hines is young and has a great fastball. Grade: B

4 Philadelphia: Claud Rico 1B

Second-round material, #43 on my card. In a draft deep in pitching, it is a big mistake to take a guy at #4 who isn't even one of the top ten hitters. Grade: D

5 Los Angeles: George Miller SP

Nice pick here. I had him ranked just behind Park at #3. Grade: A

6 St. Louis: Harley Fontenot 2B

Fontenot is barely second-round material, let alone the 6th-best player in the draft. Maybe McGwire has people in St. Louis burned out on home runs. Grade: D-

7 Seattle: Greg Samuels RP

Outstanding pick. Older than Dammann, but otherwise very comparable. #4 on my card. Grade: A

8 Baltimore: Roy Afenir SP

Also a good pick, #5 on my card right behind Samuels, though not really any better than Pepper. Really there is very little difference between the #3 pitcher and the #16 pitcher in this draft, in my opinion. Grade: A-

9 Houston: Kermit Smith 2B

Smith is a great all-around hitting prospect, but I can't see passing up the quality pitching still available. I had Kermit at #18. Maybe Houston is loaded with pitching prospects already, or maybe Sachin is a Muppets fan. Grade: B

10 Cincinnati: Rip Spencer C

Spencer is a first-rounder, but #10 is way too early. There were clearly better hitting prospects available. #28 on my card. Grade: C

11 Colorado: Tomokazu Pepper RP

The #6 pick on my card, a nice pickup at #11, especially with his great name. Grade: A

12 Montreal: Bud Marshall SP

Another good choice. His age and subpar fastball are the only drawbacks. I had him at #8. Grade: A-

13 Arizona: Carlos Baldwin RP

I like this pick. Baldwin may have slipped because of his 3-star control rating but he is very young, and at #13 he went 4 spots ahead of where I thought he should go. Grade: A-

14 Minnesota: Harley Brown SP

Minnesota was picking for LA here. Brown is a decent choice and has a very manly name, though I am not crazy about the 355 fastball. #12 on my card. Grade: B

15 Atlanta: Pancho Smith RP

Smith is a better choice than Brown. His stamina will allow him to be a starter if necessary, and he's two years younger than Brown. Smith was #10 on my board. Grade: A

16 Texas: Einar Irwin SP

He's the best remaining SP, three spots later than where I had him ranked, so this isn't a bad choice. Grade: A-

17 Florida: Brad Lonnett RP

He was right after Irwin on my card, and that's the way it played out. No complaints about this pick. Lonnett has enough stamina to be a starter. Grade: A

18 New York(A): Wally Moulton OF

Moulton was #47 on my card, so I think he went way too early. Comparable to Claude Rico. Grade: C-

19 Boston: B.j. Johnson SP

Johnson is a reach here. He should have gone in the second round given all the quality pitching still available (I rated him #33). Still, he does have the potential to be a very solid SP. Grade: B-

20 Oakland: Ron Jones RP

Nice pick, but if I wanted a reliever I would have taken Lopatka here (and I did!). Jones has better control but Lopatka's fastball more than makes up for that. Jones is on his way to Los Angeles. He was #16 on my card. Grade: A-

21 Tampa Bay: Bernie Rivera SP

He was #22 on my card, so this pick doesn't seem that bad. But if you like this kind of pitcher, why not take Gulan? Grade: C+

22 Chicago(N): Jim Moschitto 3B

My top-rated hitter in the draft (#17 overall), great power/speed combination. Grade: A-

23 New York(N): Roger Miles SS

My third-rated hitter in the draft (#19 overall), a very solid choice here. Grade: A-

24 Kansas City: Edd Gulan SP

Good pick, but there are those who feel a pitcher with a sub-300 rating is worthless. Even if that's true, Gulan is worth the risk. KC hopes the extra "d" doesn't stand for "disappointment." #21 on my card. Grade: B+

25 San Diego: Luis Lopatka RP

This guy was #11 on my card. 11 stars, 458 FB. What's not to like about him?

26 Chicago(A): Earl Robertson RP

I figured Robertson for an early second-rounder (#37). Given reports that Chicago only spent 20 minutes on their draft, this is a pretty decent choice. Grade: C

27 Toronto: Bob Montgomery 3B

Nice selection, the fifth-rated hitter on my card (#23 overall). Good speed, great power potential. I would have taken Mensor ahead of him though. Grade: B+

28 Milwaukee: Cecil Stimson SP

This is a blown pick in my opinion. Stimson has an outside shot at the majors, but was not in my top 60, and has the nerdliest name of anyone taken in the first round. I hate him! Grade: D

29 San Francisco: Nick Mensor OF

Good choice, the fourth-rated hitter on my card. I figured he'd go in the top 10, though I ranked him #20. Best all-around hitter in the draft but gets downgraded a shade because he plays outfield, and because he won't make the majors until he is 28. His ability to play 1B helps though. Grade: A-

30 Anaheim: Pete Kuzava RP

Good pick with the last pick in the first round. But for a reliever, I like Steve Ewing better because of his stamina. I had him ranked #24. Grade: B+

First round talent that slipped to round 2:
Steve Ewing, RP (Detroit - the steal of round 2. I had him #15)
Alejandro Norris, 2B (Cubs - also a steal at #52! I had him #25)
Brad Brockett, 2B (Baltimore)
George Liddell, 1B (Houston)
Kim Quinones, C (Cleveland)
Bill Hendricks, OF (Los Angeles)

Season 5's big draft-day winners: Pittsburgh, Los Angeles, Seattle
Season 5's big draft-day losers: Philadelphia, St. Louis, Milwaukee

Los Angeles is the biggest winner of this year's draft. By getting 1st-rounders from Minnesota and Oakland, they end up with one great pitching prospect, two very good ones and an excellent hitting prospect.
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116Purple Pimp
      ID: 27633140
      Tue, Aug 07, 19:02
ROYN- Joey Cranford
117BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 19:23
TyMing - quit your bullsh!t whining. How is it collusion by helping Worm out? I'm not going to let him get ripped off by you or anybody else. Because you have no friends to help with anything, I can understand why you don't understand. Go cry yourself a phucking river somewhere else.
118Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Tue, Aug 07, 19:51
If you're too stupid to realize the advantage you receive in "helping worm out" with trades, then maybe you should take your big mouth idiotic ass back to college.
119BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 19:55
I can see the tears now.
120Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Tue, Aug 07, 20:01
Brock I have no idea why anyone even bothers with your complete stupidity in this league. I sincerely hope you three amigos take your asses the hell out of here about season 6. We have just found out that you three have been colluding on trades for 10 god damn seasons and you want to tell me what's the big deal? You're a bigger friggin sh!thead than I ever imagined you were before.
121BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 20:06
Wah, wah, wah. If you have no idea why anyone bothers with me then why do you do it? You have issues that you need to address before you come to this board and vent. Maybe you should take a little break from the computer.
122Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Tue, Aug 07, 20:09
A VOID is rearing his ugly head again. A VOID the issues a$shole.
123BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 20:38
Whatever Twhining. Keep on crying because everyone will continue to make fun of you. I like beating people when they're down.
124Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Tue, Aug 07, 21:08
Brock the only thing you could beat is yourself.
125BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 22:27
That's an original Twhining. Surely you can do better than that.
126Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Tue, Aug 07, 22:35
I can do better than bothering with your pathetic hypocritical cheating ass.
127BROCK
      Donor
      ID: 371582223
      Tue, Aug 07, 23:36
Go preach somewhere else Twhining. This board is for valid league issues not personal vendettas like you always seem to have. It's no wonder people don't post here more often.
128Charles
      ID: 436102715
      Wed, Aug 08, 07:49
You are all cheaters. If everyone puts in their scrub players when they play Texas next season, I will feel redeemed. :)
129Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 10:58
I knew Brock was helping worm out with some trades. some times worm would email me asking what i thought of a certain trade offer. because after he made a few trades on his own, brock and i relized he didn't know what was going on with the game.

is it against the rules for me to ask san fran what he thinks of a trade offer? that is all worm and brock were doing. worm was asking brock what he thought about certain deals, and worm would often take his advice. or he would ask both us of, and we would both weigh in on what we thought, and he would figure out was he was going to do from there. To my knowledge, Brock has never made trades for Worm.
130Big Poo Generator
      ID: 57844423
      Wed, Aug 08, 11:53
I'd like to nominate Mike Wasdell for ROY, if he is eligible. He was up for only 3 weeks last year (pitched 29 innings).

If he isn't eligible I nominate Ed Savage.
131worm
      ID: 30751811
      Wed, Aug 08, 12:07
gnimit,
i always ask if brock has scouted a player or not. what is the big deal about that? he seems to be the best at knowing what players are doing and if they are still going up in catagories or not. they do it in every league known to man! you forget timing, this is PRETEND just like when you play house with your sister. just pretend! i made that last deal on my own. but i did ask brock to keep an eye on one of the prospects i was after to see if he was still improving or not. it is my fault that i have a busy schedule and cant check it every single day like some of you can on every hour?
maybe the real reason why you are bitching is because you know you cant take advantage of me anymore! hmmmm.....you have had some kind of "woman on the rag attitude" ever since i made that trade with whitey dealing canseco. it boils down to this timing. you are jealous of pretty much everyone in this league. with the exception of me of course right? si si pedro!
132Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 12:28
i will say that the canseco trade is an example of a trade where worm didn't ask for any help, and i seem to remember every one being pissed about that one, except whitey of course. so you can't have it both ways timing. are you pissed because he has asked for help on trades, or are you pissed when he makes really bad deals?
133Whitey
      Sustainer
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Aug 08, 12:52
Who was invloved in that Canseco trade? It's so long ago I can't remember..
134worm
      ID: 30751811
      Wed, Aug 08, 12:54
i am sure that is one that you will never forget whitey!
135Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 13:07
you gave worm some really $hitty prospect who never made it higher than AA i think for Canseco, one of the best hitters in p2.
136Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 13:25
worm you're clearly not very bright, so I'll spell it out for you. If I had another team in my pocket... I could prevent trades into my division, gain trade information I wouldn't have otherwise, I could undercut trades from your team, I could basically control all of your transactions in my favor, I would know what competitors are looking for in trade that they would possibly never tell me directly, I could undercut other teams in my league by just knowing what they're looking for, and who they have on the block. It would be a tremendous advantage for me to have a sucker like you telling me everything about your trade conversations and doing pretty much anything I advised.

I knew you were never legit in this league with your trades and now you've proved it by your admissions. You've been tag teaming our leagues the whole time and now you're exposed as the lying colluding cheaters that you are.
137J
      Sustainer
      ID: 34451212
      Wed, Aug 08, 13:29
worm, why not just figure out how good a prospect is on your own? Why ask for help? You're never gonna learn....ah, never mind, why bother ;(
138worm
      ID: 30751811
      Wed, Aug 08, 13:34
phuck off timing.
it isnt like i am making trades every day or have trade requests for that matter. the trades i made this year and all my time in gsb all have been legit. everyone knows that. i sure has hell dont have anyone on my ml roster that can be traded and control a division as you are claiming. so brock would have no reason to block a trade into his division.
you are missing the point here. brock never says dont make that trade or anything like that. i ask for his advice on players. from now on then i will come in here timing and get your permission before i consult to anyone regaurding anything that has to do with gsb. my first two seasons in p2 brock helped me with my draft....uh oh did that piss you off too? he told me from the very beginning that there are nothing but rats in p2 and i believed him. i will continue to believe him timer.
139worm
      ID: 30751811
      Wed, Aug 08, 13:36
what about those deals i made this season j? i think i have learned but still consult to have someone keep an eye on a certain prospect for me. i dont have scouts to go out and look at players on other teams. i sure as hell cant log on every ten minutes and look at players ratings.
140Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:02
The head rat and his pack rats. Does Brock help you pick your hookers too? Nice job worm.
141Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:15
Timing shut the hell up and run your damn team.
142Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:31
Awwww poor Wammierat. How ironic that you would scream and bitch about how I ran my team in P2 when you were cheating all along. You want to try a trade boycott again Wammierat? Awwwww...
143Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:41
trade boycott? don't know what the hell you are even talking about Timing.

I was cheating all along in p2 huh? too bad that wasn't the case. just because you guys didn't know we knew worm that doesn't mean we were cheating. also, just because we helped a new owner out when he started doesn't make us a cheater either. we asked him to join the league because if you remember, the seattle team was like a rotating door, and no one would stick with it.

and Timing, I will continue to say how you ran your team in p2 was weak as hell. fine if you are rebuilding your team if you don't want to bring up your best player a season early, but to get guys with under 100 cats is bull$hit and always will be.
144Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:46
I wouldn't expect your hoodrat ass to remember your trade boycott threat. Criminals and liars usually have bad memories.

Just because we were high school friends, pretended we didn't know each other, and helped him out with ranking the draft, making trades, signing free agents, etc. doesn't mean we were cheating. We were just "helping" out. Okaaaay...
145Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 14:58
oh if you are talking about never trading with you, i didn't for a long time. I have no problem not trading with you in the future either timing.

Timing, I don't care if you don't believe that we were acting in worm's best interests when we were helping him with his team. hell the team he had when he was the M's was horrible. if you remember, that team had tons of owners.

146Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:03
No I'm talking about you trying to arrange a league wide trade boycott of my team. Your memory is worse than I thought. I hear drug abuse can do that to the brain. Maybe you should have "shut the hell up and run your damn team" back then. How funny that you have the nerve to say that now.
147Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:15
I couldn't get every one to boycott your team timing, so i dropped it. i had totally forgotten about that, but I remember now. I wish we would have gotten a boycott against you team, maybe you would have quit.
148Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:31
Pathetic...
149Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:39
Yeah, that's pretty much what you are. I was waiting for some one else to make that call, but you beat them to it. smartest thing i have ever seen you post on the boards.
150Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:42
"Shut the hell up and run your damn team" Wammierat. You are a walking talking hypocritical fool. Thanks for playing Wammierat Jeopardy.
151Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Aug 08, 15:56
you are putting quotes around what you have already said Timing. Stupid.
You are calling the wrong party a hypocrate, and we all know that you are the fool.

And what the hell is "Wammierat Jeopardy"? What is your game, make up a word and pair it up with a word that we all know, and then assume that it is going to make sense?

Thanks for playing Rureoirqlo Cotton-Candy. I can play that game too.
152Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 16:01
I've never attacked someone for the way they run their team, tried to organize a trade boycott of that team, turned around and told someone to shut the hell up and run their damn team, and then admitted that I've been colluding with other owners for 10 seasons but it's okay because I was just helping out. LOL Please...

I know your game. Lie, cheat, deny deny deny. It's a terrific game.
153WiddleAvi
      ID: 86162015
      Wed, Aug 08, 16:44
I would like to nominate Elliot Sheafer for ROY. I brought him up a couple of weeks into the season and he finished with 27 HR's over 90 RBI's and was batting I think in the .260's Anyway it's nice to see all the controversy I caused with my trade. If I had not traded rayford I would have had to sell him otherwise I would have gone bankrupt. The only person I wasn't happy about trading was Bellinger...For those who don't know hitters are very easy to come by. I traded 2 hitters and one pitcher and in exchange I got a couple of pitching prospects plus some hitting as well as a first round pick which I am sure will be used on a pitcher. Bellonger was a good pitcher but was very low (295 I think) in Change or Breaking. Anyway I lowered my payroll by 18 mill in that trade which was critical for me and I got some decent prospects and a 1st round pick to boot. I sent an E-mail saying that I was dumping my whole team if possible...I accepted the best offer I got.
154Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 16:49
There are the Final JPI on the year. The +/- is from week 1 to week 18 so it's not accurate from 17 to 18. All stats will be updated on the site tonight if anyone's still interested.



Rank Team Total Change
1 Giants (102-60) 208 0
2 Padres (109-53) 188 +28
3 Royals (105-57) 185 +13
4 Expos (101-61) 180 +2
5 Red Sox (91-71) 175 +13
6 Brewers (87-75) 161 +20
7 Diamondbacks (94-68) 155 +16
8 White Sox (91-71) 154 -6
9 Angels (98-64) 148 +6
10 Blue Jays (83-79) 138 -6
11 Cubs (85-77) 127 -6
12 Devil Rays (85-77) 125 +7
13 A's (81-81) 112 -2
14 Astros (82-80) 107 -1
15 Twins (82-80) 104 +6
16 Yankees (83-79) 94 -2
17 Marlins (81-81) 90 -14
17 Orioles (77-85) 90 -9
19 Dodgers (70-92) 89 -7
20 Rockies (78-84) 81 0
20 Rangers (82-80) 81 -11
22 Phillies (78-84) 80 -6
23 Pirates (49-113) 68 +1
24 Braves (73-89) 65 -14
25 Mets (69-93) 53 +2
26 Reds (69-93) 39 +2
27 Tigers (66-96) 38 -6
28 Mariners (64-98) 36 0
29 Indians (54-108) 28 -4
30 Cardinals (61-101) 14 -24

155J
      Sustainer
      ID: 34451212
      Wed, Aug 08, 17:23
thanks timing. Glad to see my team somehow improved ;)
156Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 33732119
      Wed, Aug 08, 21:15
Ok, here's my take on 'is worm helping Brock and Wammie to cheat'. I'd have to say that it doesn't exactly look that way. When I came in I traded away Harnisch and Kelleher to the Twins for a top 5 pitching prospect and his 1st round pick. Before I pulled the trigger on that deal, since I was so new, I asked around a bit to see if I was getting ripped off. I got a few responses that all basically said 'Thats a reasonable trade, both sides get what they want'. Now that I know a thing or two about GSB and ratings et al I make my own trades, but I should hope that its acceptable to see that a newbie could use some help.

As for now, I think worm has been around long enough that he can make his own trades. (I believe this is what he said he is doing now anyway.)

If Wammie, Brock and Worm are friends and they talk alot, is that cheating? Its borderline, but its also realistic. Take the Yankees and Expos in real life. Loria and Steinbrenner are great buds. Ever since Loria took over the Expos he has forced two trades on his GM, the Irabu/Lilly-Westbrook trade (ugh!) and the Urbina trade that the Yanks finally nixed. I'm positive that the Expos could have gotten someone better than the fat toad had they shopped Lilly and Westbrook around together. (At the time they were bona-fide top-of-the-line pitching prospects.) Then look at Seattle-Toronto. Ash is such an ass that he reportedly nixed a trade to Colorado of Stewart simply because he didn't want Colorado to ship Stewart off the Seattle. (Thats his idea of 'showing up Seattle'...) He made it a condition of the trade, Colorado refused, and the trade got nixed.

So as you can see GM 'friendships' and 'hatreds' exsist all the time. Its just part of the game. Timing, I can fully understand why your upset over this, just as I'm sure all those other teams who had coveted Lilly/Westbrook were when they saw them shipped off for a POS fatass toad. Its part of the game though, simple as that.

Brock, Wammie, as long as you aren't actively telling Worm 'don't trade for this guy, ask for him' etc. then I have no problem. I haven't seen any evidence of this (except for Worm's first few weeks, which is understandable) so lets hope your not. GM 'friendships' I can handle. Collusion I can't.
157Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Wed, Aug 08, 21:59
But you are a liar timing. post 77
"Wammie shut the hell up and run your damn team."
thought you said you have never done that before(post 152)

Rouge Timing thinks we cheatedbecause we never told people that Brock and I knew Worm. But I agree that it is not cheating to ask people for their opinions on trades. i have talked to many owners in E about possible trades that could be made.

Timing is just a crying little bitch who will say something when it directly effects him. he knows the florida houston trade was one sided but he says that it was a fair trade. again lies.

and timing, why don't you try the same $hit you pulled in p2 in here. for 7 seasons play guys with 100 ratings across the boards and find out if people trade with you.

and more lies, you have bitched at worm for how he runs his team.

i also remember when you thought that because you worked on the league web page, that it gave you the right to dictate how the league worked. you were being an a$$hole, even more than normal, and every one got sick of you, so you boycotted the boards, and it was probalby the most enjoyable time of gsb for most of us. would you please stop posting for another couple of months. I know i would like that.
158Timing
      ID: 286591511
      Wed, Aug 08, 22:23
Wammierat go to hell and die. Unless you're going to start sucking more dick to pay for my team I suggest you take a flying leap. I'll do whatever the hell I want with my team you filthy lying cheating son of a bitch.

Rogue, these scumbags have made suspicious trades with each other in the past. They've used worm's team as a dumping ground for their older, high salaried players. Worm's teams have never had an ounce of competition in this league. They all came in here pretending not to know each other so at the time we could not prove there was something fishy going on with their trades. Well now we can. What makes it particularly funny is that these fools are the first to claim conspiracies any time a big trade goes down. It's the ultimate in hypocrisy.
159Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Thu, Aug 09, 08:21
I don't suck dick Timing, I don't live in TX. I would have no problem buying your team out of E, so we could get some one else in here who is more pleasant to be around.

and suspicious trades were not made in p2. worm just made a lot of dumb moves as an owner, not playing players, and having them lose skills for example. no trade worm ever made with brock or myself is as bad as some trades I can think of in p2, and a few of the trades here in E either.

bitch and moan timing, bitch and moan. what ever happend to "shut up the hell up and run your damn team"? practice what you preach please.
160Baldwin
      ID: 4261155
      Tue, Aug 28, 13:38
My pick of Monk Williams got a 'doesn't look good, check back next year' from BPG. Thot I'd give an update.

Monk was 375/433/453/440 at the time of the review.

Monk now is 431/445/453/440 and still gaining exactly two per day in average. Can someone who remembers Koonts' revised prediction system tell me where he should top out at in ave.?

My second pick that year was Basinski 486/433/407/425...1751 total and still gaining 2 per day in curveball. He's my MR already.

Pretty nice draft for a 'doesn't look good' IMHO.
161Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Aug 28, 14:30
What season were these guys drafted? what are their stars and initial stats?
162Big Poo Generator
      ID: 14857812
      Tue, Aug 28, 15:48
They were all drafted in season 1. I should do another update to see how some of the other late bloomers turned out. Scheible is at 468 in AVG and still going up.
163Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Aug 28, 16:09
pimpster, are you still working on a new web page?
164Purple Pimp
      ID: 27633140
      Wed, Aug 29, 21:17
All the basics are done and stuff, but i am having soeone else put in all teh special effects and stuff in for me and he is on vacation for a couple days. So ill let you know what the situation is when he gets back.
165Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Wed, Aug 29, 22:46
Thanks pimpster
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