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Posted by: blue hen, almighty
- Leader [27048221] Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 04:31

League 4 is so easy!

Once again, we're all alone on a stud...

0/0 hometowner
Jack Wantland 7-0 2.3 48 Fair C
Terre-Haute 19 Fair - Poor + Poor - Fair + Fair +
14.7 8.8 0.6 0.9 1.8 1.7
Can't wait to sign this guy up. The guys we lose are 6'5, 6'4, and 6'1.

4/4 on 6'5 GEFGGE OOC
2/2 on 5'11 PGEFFG OOC (PG of the future)
4/4 on 6'4 EEGFGF OOC (wow)

Losing the short guys means we can go after other short guys, and therefore wind up with 4/4 ties on those two guys, instead of similar tall guys having 8/8 ties. I think it's very realistic to get Wantland, the 2/2, and one of the 4/4's. That would be a very good class, in my opinion.
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46beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 12:10
I got Indy in the sweet 16. They knocked me out last year and should do the same this year.
47G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 12:59
Nah. Just stop everyone other than O'Reilly and Logsdon and watch them tumble...
48G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 13:01
Also, I earned 100 credits in Lg 1 somehow. Can I spend those on Gainesville to schedule games against bh and Twarpy (and anyone else)?
49G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 13:03
One more thing. Sorry about the triple post. bmd, who are you recruting in conf in Lg 1, so I know who to stay away from.
50Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 2111201313
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 13:13
Glad to renew the annual rivalry, bh.

I am a stickler for Tradition so I'm scheduling you, Twarpy.

Anybody else want a game against a perennial NTT team (except for 2 years ago)/

Toral
51J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 13:42
Toral, I'll give it a shot if you're up for it
52Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 2111201313
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 13:47
OK, J, Let's give it a try. Long Beach is 243. You're 230?

Toral
53beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 14:08
GDogg,

Blackey Adder Offered Scholarship 4/5/2002 12:28:32 PM 39337348605011
Blackey Adder Spent 17 RPs (R/W/C/V) 4/5/2002 12:28:48 PM 39497348604739
Jack Wessel Offered Scholarship 4/5/2002 12:36:42 PM 42897929881091
Jack Wessel Spent 17 RPs (R/W/C/V) 4/5/2002 12:36:47 PM 42947929884131
Neil Willett Offered Scholarship 4/5/2002 12:37:03 PM 42387909727379
Neil Willett Spent 17 RPs (R/W/C/V) 4/5/2002 12:37:10 PM 42457909721635
Dwayne Myers Offered Scholarship 4/5/2002 12:39:06 PM 42427911409203
Dwayne Myers Spent 17 RPs (R/W/C/V) 4/5/2002 12:39:11 PM 42477911402243
Courtney Jessie Offered Scholarship 4/5/2002 12:39:30 PM 40737587163795
Courtney Jessie Spent 9 RPs (R/W/C) 4/5/2002 12:39:38 PM 40817587168659

Only one guy in conf 16, only guy I'm recruiting in there. All others are big men from other conferences that are at the bottom of the conf rankings. If you want to max Jessie tell me so I can put 9 RP somewhere else.
54G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 16:45
What conf is he in? I'm not sure if I've seen him. I'm maxing Moll and Summitt from 1 and Dante something in another conf.
55beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 17:57
Umm no clue, some where in the 20's maybe conf 30. He's nothing special, just a guy with height.
56G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Fri, Apr 05, 2002, 18:41
and my final max is Joel Cannon from Fargo.
57Flying Polack
      ID: 223241010
      Thu, Apr 11, 2002, 07:36
Should I use priority points or not? What to the experienced gurupies with good teams think? For the record I'm tied for 3, and I have a clear lead on 3.
58J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Thu, Apr 11, 2002, 12:43
of course, use priority points. Just rank the guys from who you'd the most on down.
59Flying Polack
      ID: 223241010
      Thu, Apr 11, 2002, 13:19
I asked for an experienced opinion. MORON

But seriously, how good of a job does the computer do in assigning you the best players. I've got a lead on 3 SG's. I have an idea as to who I think the best will be, but I obviously won't know exactly. Should I let the computer assign me the best one?
60G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Thu, Apr 11, 2002, 17:01
bmd will probably disagree with me, but I ALWAYS let the computer pick for me. Honestly, there is no concrete way of knowing what players are the best until you see the attributes.

My best example of this is my former SF in Lg 17, Morris Ashby. When I was recruiting him, he had decent ratings, and average stats (14 PPG, 6-7 RPG, and decent assist numbers). I had him listed (in my mind) as my #4 or 5 guy, but I had maxed him all the way for God knows what reason. He turned out E F E G G F, shot about 60% in HS, but just didn't get that many shots for some reason, had a stellar career for the Macon Monkey Love and was the #4 overall pick in the Lg 17 SimBA draft.

I never use PP's and never will.
61beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:38
Yep, I disagree.
62beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 13:50
I will say guys can surprise you. I've had guys go up in 4 skills without great stats. That being said, I've put PP's on my top 3 guys this year.
63Raz
      ID: 35949280
      Fri, Apr 12, 2002, 17:11
Just to chime in (not really to add anything, seeing as this is only my 2nd season), I'm inclined to follow G Dogg's strategy of not assigning anything. Out of my 3 current freshman, the one I would have ranked 3rd best in the preseason has turned out to be my best so far (they were all recruited, no walk-ons). I don't think I have the skill yet to pick out who is better than who, so I'm of the opinion to just sit back and let the computer do it for me, at least for now.
64kev
      ID: 42251923
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 03:38
Im just wondering what exact game is this? Is there a link or something? I have read a couple threads on it here.
65Raz
      ID: 35949280
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 13:43
Link
66G Dogg
      ID: 13631420
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 15:02
+10 class for Gainesville ranked in both pubs. Priddy and Tapp were uncontested and Henson was a hometown 1/1 situation. I thought Tapp looked better than he turned out, but who knows. How'd everyone else do?
67beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 15:22
+15, won 2 1/1 ties and had an outright. 1 great swingmen that can play anywhere from PG to PF, a 6-2 guy that has no hands whatsoever but plays great D and can shoot the lights out, and a big man that can board and D up. A very solid class.
68Raz
      ID: 35949280
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 16:33
Ugh. A whopping +2 class. I won none of my ties, and even managed to lose a guy I was ahead on by about 4 points. This means I lost on my top 4 recruits. End result: I did receive my 5th recruit, another recruit that I spent a spare 30 points on or so, plus a walk-on.

I doubt the walk-on (+1) will ever see the light of day (he's a horrible shooter). The other recruit (+1) will probably be a career backup. I'm hoping my other recruit (+0) can jump into a starting role. I was really surprised that he didn't have higher attributes. Check out the stat line of this 6-7 PF:

24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 0.3 apg, 1.3 steals/game, 1.6 TO/game, and 1.0 blocks/game

Would you guess this was a guy who turned out to be a +0?
69blue hen, almighty
      Leader
      ID: 27048221
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 17:48
I really try not to put stock in +/-'s. The class, on paper was +9, but I think this is a class in the Raley/Durbin/Board mold. Though unranked with so-so +/-, that class earned two #2 NTT seeds. For the third year in a row, I got a tall, unranked class in that same mold.

I did get the aforementioned Otto Walser, who's a stud any way you look at it. I love his E ath, but I just wish he was a little taller than 6'5.

My other two guys both surprised me... 7 footers Britt Stith and Jack Wantland. Both have good stats and good attributes, and both will sit on what is probably the tallest bench in SSB history (6'8, 6'9, 6'10, 7'0, 7'0).
70VID in Conn.
      ID: 243451318
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 19:03
Had a +8 class but they were all in the right places. Glad to see Branson heading in the right direction. Ranked in one publication.

Looks like bluehen beat me out for Walser, but I can live with it due to the wonderful size I got.
71J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 22:42
Toral, what happened? you're not on my preseason schedule!

My class was rated #8 somewhere, but just a +7 as a whole. I didn't get two guys I was hoping for, Colby Ransdell (a stud whom I was tied with 5 others for - who wound up in Honolulu) and Clarence Davis (the guard I really wanted and needed, but I was trailing by 1 RP to another school - Memphis). I wound up with 3 pretty good guys, but none can shoot and now I'm kinda weak in the guard positions, with only two good players (and I have a feeling Seaman overacheived in winning National Freshman of the Year honors). My team still has no defense and now we're not such good shooters. But as a whole my team should be better. We'll see!
72Toral
      Sustainer
      ID: 2111201313
      Sat, Apr 13, 2002, 23:03
Dunno, J. I entered you, and not that middle guy I'm playing. Did you enter my #?

Toral
73MattG
      ID: 8116321
      Sun, Apr 14, 2002, 20:34
I think I got a pretty darn Good class... +1 total and I replaced all 3 of my Graduates with Better people... Plus I got a little taller... Got 3 of my TOP 4 guys one was OOC and the only Guy I didn't get was 7'3" monster Funk...
74Buchster
      ID: 313732
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 14:33
My first recruiting class in SSB didn't turn out to be as bad as I thought it would. Overall the class is a +6, and all of the recruits are better than the seniors who left. Team defense and shooting will be greatly improved this year and all three recruits will start as freshman. They will join two soph's in the starting lineup making this team one of the youngest in SSB. Highly recruited 7'1" center Jamond Terry is the most talented of the class and turned out to be a +3. I enjoyed my first full season in SSB and look forward to competing with the rest of you in league 4 for many seasons to come.
75G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 14:53
Matt, was that a typo with the +1 or did you just have a crappy Senior class graduate?

Buchster, nice post. Which team is yours again?

And did The Beezer do his own class rankings this season? I thought that was a great topic of discussion last season and would be interested in his list again of all the gurupie teams.

Anyway, it's great to hear about everyone classes and good luck to everyone this season!
76Buchster
      ID: 313732
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 16:59
I'm Savannah in conf. 13
77MattG
      ID: 37722615
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 17:08
yeha typo, I'm a +10... and I got a 6'7" EXE Shooter with EXE Athl.... Hopefully I can have a followup class that is decent and then I can contend, whoever had this team before me missed like 3 years of recruiting now those guys are Se and Jr... I'm starting all 3 Frosh the I recruited. If finish .500 or better it could be the start of Great things to come.
78Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 17:50
After a 2 season hiatus, I'm back in league 4, and against all odds, I was given back my South Bend team.

My 6 seasons with South Bend: 17-7, 19-5, 20-4, 21-3, 19-5, 21-3

The 2 seasons since my departure: 14-10, 13-11

I'm hoping to be able to take this team back to being a perennial NTT team. Granted, they aren't as talented as when I left(the 3 tallest and most talented players were recruited by me and are this year's seniors), but they're only missing a couple key components that have been a staple of my teams in the past. Nothing a couple years of recruiting won't fix.

I am very fortunate that whoever had the team the past couple seasons got 2 solid young point guards, who should be able to handle the position between them for the next 3 years, letting me focus my recruiting elsewhere.

I need my upperclassmen E shooters to step up and shoot the lights out and for somebody to get me some production from the swingman positions.

If all goes well, I think I can make it back to the NTT.

And to keep with the theme of this thread, the computer(or whoever recruited for this team) got a +5 Freshman class, with 2 players at 5-11, and a 6-5 guy. That's just about the worst class I've seen, as the 6-5 guy would be the only person in my 10 man rotation on a normal team.

Anyway, good luck to all gurupies this coming season, and I hope to see some of you in the NTT(along with myself) :)
79G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 18:51
Welcome back, Chris! Wanna play Gainesville now? ;-)

What is your username? Still fastatcc? And how the hell did you get your team back, an email to p6k?

Well, in any case, it's great to have you back in the fray. Good luck this season!
80G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 18:54
Nevermind, I just looked. Odalis? Haha, perfect.
81Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 19:27
That's the thing, apparently I got it back entirely at random, as I didn't use the same e-mail to sign up as before, and I didn't ask for it.

I'll play Gainesville whenever, I'm no match for you now though, unfortunately :)
82G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 19:40
I'm at work, so I can't download mirc or anything here, so if you want to chat, I'm in the SSB chatroom.

I'm not so sure you wouldn't give me some problems. My team was crappy last year until I changed up some things to get to the Elite 8. Heck, even Terre Haute beat me.
83Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 19:52
Wow, that's a disgrace ;)

Alright, I'll look for you in there.

Remember Peter Sears from my last recruiting class before I left? He's going to have to have an epic year of Cole-like proportions. Of courwse, he's a +6 and Cole was a +1, but that stuff doesn't seem to matter :)

My conference looks tough. Dearborn won 20, and Nashville and Green Bay are still 16-17 win teams. Also play a 19 win team OOC. Could be a struggle to get to the NTT this year. Hoping for the best though, I've done better with worse :)
84G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Tue, Apr 16, 2002, 12:08
Is that a Crook and Cole sighting in South Bend at SG and PF? Scary thought.
85Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 05:03
That's the plan :)

Notice my SG took 18 shots.....in 23 minutes??

Afraid to pass the ball, but since the only guy outside of him that can remotely shoot is Peter Sears, I'm happy with it.

Those aforementioned 2 young PG's who looked good combined for 10 assits and 0 TO's. I like.

Have they raised blocked shots? My puny team swatted no less than 10 shots. My 6-3 E def, E ath SF blocked 3, got 2 steals, and held the opposing SF to 3-15. Wow.

And all of this...doesn't matter one bit. Because the team I played was 2-22 last year! Playing a 19-5 Hialeah team that was a top tier team when I was around and is still up there. Hopefully I can keep it close.

I like what I've seen from my team so far though...they have enough pieces to challenge for the conference title.

We'll see how it goes.

By the way, congrats on your thorough dismantling of Tulsa, who from the looks of it, are still a premier team. A +16 reb margin(7 for your PG, 7 in 14 minutes for your backup PF, 7 in 15 minutes for your backup center)? 9 assists for your PG? Balanced shooting too. That's scary, indeed.

Good luck this year.
86G Dogg
      ID: 539522315
      Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 12:03
Yeah, my PG is outstanding. As a Soph. last season, he beat out my incumbent PG who was a Sr. Although he didn't average (over the course of the season) the 9 apg/.8 TO that he averaged during the preseason, I really liked his 5.5/.8 averages. I can't wait to see what he does this season. 7 reb's are great...I wonder how many he'd get if I got his rebounding up from a POOR!

Your team still looks Chris-esque, 2 superstars and great defense. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you win your conference as I think Dearborn is overrated and the other teams in that conference have coaches in their 2nd or 3rd seasons (I think). South Bend should be dominating 15 again in no time. Are you going to change the name back to the Lakers?

Well, I will probably lose tonight against Topeka, who is a team that has catapulted themselves up to the elite of Lg 4 in the last few seasons. I am going to give a couple of my Fr. a chance to shine tonight. Priddy will be starting at SG and Wayne Henson is going to start at PF. I am thinking of putting Edens on shoot less for the game...I already know what he can do.

Good luck!
87J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 14:35
big matchup of a bunch of Losers tonight:

San Jose -vs- Terre Haute.
88blue hen, almighty
      Leader
      ID: 34937217
      Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 16:24
Dude, for the last time, it's R-O-O-S-T-E-R-S.
89Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Wed, Apr 17, 2002, 21:44
Might be time to believe the hype in South Bend. A 24 point win over a computer coached team doesn't foretell much, but a 19 point win over a team that has averaged over 18 wins per season over the last 10 years bodes well for this season.

My center pulled down 14 rebounds.

My 2 top scorers combined for 50, as my Junior SG shot 10-12.

2 PG's combined for 9 assists and 1 TO, making in 19 and 1 between the 2 for these first 2 games.

Backup PG has 12 assists and 0 TO's.

E def, E ath SF has held opposing SF's to 5-24 shooting.

Shooting lines for Sears and Crain over 2 games:

Peter Sears - 23-38, 55 points, 66 minutes played
Lamont Crain - 20-30, 42 points, 46 minutes played

I think Crain's going to get a boost to 27-28 MPG, see if he can handle it. Sears hasn't been adversely affected by his heavy workload, in fact playing his best down the stretch tonight, so I'm going to keep his minutes about the same.

If I can get both my point guards to play 20 MPG, I'd be thrilled, it's tough to choose between them, as the Frosh seems to have slightly better hands and some extra height, but the Soph has better defense.

Of course, 2 games, especially exhibition games, don't really tell all, but my team's performance in these 2 games would have any coach optimistic about the upcoming year. I'm still a little concerned that my teams don't get any steals. My South Bend teams of the past would typically average somewhere around 10 steals per game, while this team has been getting 3. We'll see how that goes.

Congrats to all the Gurupie winners tonight, and good luck getting your team in shape for the regular season.
90balls
      ID: 193311316
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:22
can someone please post a working link. I'm not able to access the site right now. thanks!
91Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:25
SSB
92balls
      ID: 193311316
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:30
thanks but that link is not working for me. I log in and then it tells me that this page cannot be displayed. Are you able to navigate though the site?
93Chris
      ID: 24910517
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:41
No, it doesn't seem anybody is able to navigate the site right now.
94balls
      ID: 193311316
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:45
bummer...thanks for your help, Chris.
95balls
      ID: 193311316
      Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 00:50
I just got in using this link.
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