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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 12:43
Max Teams: 16
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Player Universe: All baseball
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 1
Trade End Date: August 28, 2005
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: None
Trade Review: Commissioner
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 162
Max Innings Pitched: 1350
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Sunday, Apr 3
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, RP, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: R, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
Minimum IP: 800 (will be monitored oustside of Yahoo)
The draft has been activated, but the official start time of the draft is 7am ET Monday, March 7. Picks prior to that time are allowed, but are optional and untimed.
Starting at 7am, we will institute a 6 hour clock. The clock will pause between 11pm and 7am ET. (We may also decide to relax the clock on the weekend, but this will be decided later in the week. Assume nothing!) If you time out, the draft will move on. Skipped picks can be made up at any time thererafter.
If your turn arises and you still have an outstanding skipped pick, I will probably move the draft on to the next picker. If we get well ahead of pace, I may relax that stance. But hopefully it will not become an issue. This also means that people on the turn have a single clock period to make their first pick, or both will be skipped. (The draft software will do this automatically.)
We will use this thread for logistical communications, to help others anticipate potential delays, to recruit someone to accept a queue, to announce or solicit trades, to coordinate changes in the clock for weekends, etc. Please check this thread regularly throughout the draft, as we will rely on it as the primary means of communication among RIBC managers.
Established draft etiquette is that no undrafted player names should be mentioned, and in the event of an infraction, should be edited out.
After two rounds have been completed, a separate draft rationale thread will be started. We will try to keep that thread on a 2 round lag. Therefore, after you make your pick in round 3, please immediately post your round 1 pick rationale, and so forth. I usually draft my rationales as I make picks, so that all I need to do when the time comes is copy and paste. I recommend that approach for everyone.
Everyone may follow the draft using this link: http://rotoguru1.com/php/otc25.php |
| | | 1 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:07
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darkside is up ;-)
2005 RIBC draft order is:
1 darkside
2 Peter N
3 KrazyKoalaBears
4 rockafellerskank
5 beastiemiked
6 Chris
7 Guru
8 Athletics Guy
9 jumpball
10 Slackjawed Yokel
11 youngroman
12 Ref
13 Species
14 Toral
15 holt
16 Matt S
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| | | 2 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:20
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done
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| | | 3 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:40
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3 straight "Al"'s
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| | | 4 | Peter N.
ID: 15255320
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:45
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Dangit darkside! I wanted Pujols! AROD is a nice consolation though. :-)
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| | | 5 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:45
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Uh oh! Surprise pick at 1.03.
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| | | 6 | Athletics Guy
ID: 24217410
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 14:48
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Huge surprise!
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| | | 7 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 15:14
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You'll just have to wait for my rationale before finding out why. :) Though I don't know why it would be considered a huge surprise. He's at least top 10 in most drafts.
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| | | 8 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 17:49
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I'm more interested in hearing your rational on why you picked the 3rd pick over the 5th or 8th. Perhaps you like picking closer to one end of the draft.
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| | | 9 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 20:16
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bmd, you've got mail
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| | | 10 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 20:23
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Go ahead and make your pick. I'll take my chances with your leftovers.
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| | | 11 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 20:30
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Just so that no one is on the edge of their seat, I've got to do a bit more thinking before I pick. I'll probably pick in the next 24 hours. Sorry for the delay (kind of).
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| | | 12 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 22:17
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bmd, I don't suppose there's any reason to not talk about rationales for picking a particular draft slot (if there is, Guru can feel free to delete this), so... I do tend to prefer to be towards one end of the draft. On one hand, if a run on a position starts and the draft is going away from me, I can have the feeling of, "Oh well, not much I can do about it." But, when it is my turn, I usually have at least 2 needs to fill, so having a pick towards one end helps me get both of the 2 guys I'm looking at. The reason I took #3 is because it was the closest to an end, with a high first round pick. I was at the bottom of last year's draft and wanted to try the view from (near) the top. In the end, I don't think there's any real advantage for one spot over another in this league. Last year's draft slot with resulting finish... 1st pick: 3rd place
2: 2
3: 11
4: 16
5: 14
6: 9 (tie)
7: 1
8: 4
9: 15
10: 7
11: 6
12: 9 (tie)
13: 12
14: 13
15: 5
16: 8 Now obviously a fair amount of that has to do with managing, but to me it shows that this league is competitive up and down and that a particular draft spot doesn't mean much except comfort factor during the draft. I honestly considered the 8th spot when I was making my selection, but in the end I just wanted to try my chances with the highest slot available at the time, particularly with its proximity to an end.
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| | | 13 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Fri, Mar 04, 2005, 22:30
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I've picked 12th both years. The rules are basically the same. I'd better draft better!
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| | | 14 | jumpball
ID: 198192210
Sat, Mar 05, 2005, 00:30
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rfs picked the 4th slot so he wouldn't have to think . . . you messed him up KKB :-)
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| | | 15 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Sat, Mar 05, 2005, 16:42
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Chris is up.
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| | | 16 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 10:22
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On to Species...
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| | | 17 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 12:43
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You ruined my day, ref. Just wanted you to know that ;)
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| | | 18 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 15:52
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I'm looking to trade my 1.15 and 5.15 for a mid 2 and mid 4 rd pick.
also looking to swap my 2.2 and 3.15 for a late 2 and early 3rd pick
or - my 2.2 and 6.2 for a late 2 and early 5 pick.
let me know asap. my 1st rd pick is up and I don't want to hold this up too long.
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| | | 19 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 15:53
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my e-mail.
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| | | 20 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:02
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holt,
I sent you an e-mail. i will be out 2+ hours. if you like my offer, just post my e-mail here as proof of my acceptance.
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| | | 21 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:16
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holt, e-mail sent.
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| | | 22 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:31
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pete - I e-mailed you back.
rfs - I'm just waiting to see if a deal with pete will be made. if it does then I will agree to your offer and post it.
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| | | 23 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:38
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holt, I replied back.
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| | | 24 | Athletics Guy
ID: 24217410
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:49
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Did the deal get completed? Trade talks fall through? The supsense is killing me! :)
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| | | 25 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 16:51
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trade announcement:
holt's 2.2 + 6.2
for
rfs' 2.13 + 5.4
per e-mail from rfs:
I'd move my late 2nd rounder (2.13) + early 5th
rounder (5.04) for your 2.02 and 6.02 --- prety much
meets you terms.
I will be out tyhe next 2 hours... just post this
e-mail reply as my conformation if you want this
deal....
rfs
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| | | 26 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 17:01
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pete - I sent you another offer.
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| | | 27 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 17:06
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holt, deal.
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| | | 28 | holt
ID: 3821658
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 17:07
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another trade announcement:
holt's 1.15 + 3.15
for
Peter N.'s 2.15 + 3.2
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| | | 29 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 17:13
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I'm not sure how the trading of draft picks works on KKB's draft software so I'll go ahead and post my pick here.
1.15 Miguel Cabrera, OF, FLA
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| | | 31 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 17:18
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Pick entered. Matt S is up.
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| | | 32 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 18:31
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RE: #25. I'm back and agree that is the trade.
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| | | 33 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 18:38
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Hopefully Matt S didn't drink the water ;-)
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| | | 34 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 19:08
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Trade picks were entered in the OTC software. Everyone should be prompted in the correct order.
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| | | 35 | Matt S en Mexico
ID: 4237618
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 19:37
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My picks have been entered.
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| | | 36 | jumpball
ID: 161432110
Sun, Mar 06, 2005, 22:31
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Ref or youngroman,
Would either of you be interested in swapping picks this round and next?
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| | | 37 | Athletics Guy
ID: 24217410
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 00:20
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Ref, youngroman, I also would like to swap 2nd+3rd round picks with either of you two.
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| | | 38 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 03:10
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jumpball & AthleticsGuy - in case you were after a stud-SP, there is now one less available. I don't think that I could have waited a few picks more.
I like having the Randro. I hope I can say that in October too.
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| | | 39 | youngroman
ID: 221118186
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 04:06
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I must have been drunk an hour ago. I wanted the Randro and ended up with the former DBack's 1-2-punch that 2-handedly won the World Series. Too bad we need more then 2 arms to win the RIBC.
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| | | 40 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 11:28
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ONLY an hour ago yr? I thought you were that way all the time....
(bada-rump-bum-bum)
Methinks Guru will have a high OBP this year. SLG might be okay too with the 2 guys he has. Still an interesting pick, however.
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| | | 41 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 11:43
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Somewhere along the line I'll find someone who I like except for a hideous OBA. And I'll take him anyway.
Or maybe 4 or 5 of them.
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| | | 42 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 12:04
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I'm guessing that Guru is hoping that Dunn runs like they want him to. If he can keep relatively the same power numbers and add 10 extra SB's he's a solid pick. Of course, I'd still be leary of a guy that struck out 195 times last season.
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| | | 43 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 12:08
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Oh, you broke my heart Guru. So close...
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| | | 44 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 12:41
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Holt is up.
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| | | 45 | holt
ID: 3821658
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 12:45
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kkb up, then me again.
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| | | 46 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 12:58
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KKB must not have gotten the email yet ;-)
Four stud 1b's gone in 4 picks. At this rate I'll have [withheld].
Ought to be interested to see what happens to Delgado. Things against him: ProPlayer "Stadium", change in leagues
Things for him: Hitting behind [withheld], [withheld] and Miguel Cabrera
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| | | 47 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 13:30
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Species - the names you mentioned in that last postwere pretty benign, but just to emphasize the point, I blocked out the ones that were still available.
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| | | 48 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 13:47
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I started the rationale thread so that it's ready when we start round 3.
Please do your best to keep the rationales up to date. If you cannot post your (2 round lagged) rationale when you make each pick, then please post a placeholder entry. This not only provides a slot to merge it in later on, but also lets the next drafter know not to continue to wait for you. In fact, my preference would be that when your pick is due, FIRST add your next rationale (either the rationale or the placeholder) and THEN make your next pick. In the past, most people have been pretty good about keeping up, but some have tended to ignore the rationale thread if they aren't ready for it.
If you have to catch up on one or more rationales, please post them here, and a moderator can insert it in the proper place.
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| | | 49 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 13:49
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Sorry, had a meeting to go to. Dang work getting in the way of fantasy sports again. ;)
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| | | 50 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 13:53
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Guru: should there not be "draft pick choice" rationales as well? I would very much like to hear people's thinking on this, and believe it was done last year.
Also, it requires no work of me ;)
Toral
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| | | 51 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 14:21
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Guru: #47
Sorry teacher. I'll sit in the corner with a dunce cap.
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| | | 52 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 14:21
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Toral[50] - Good idea. I added a sentence to that effect. Include that with your opening player rationale.
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| | | 55 | biliruben
ID: 500432513
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 15:01
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Guru: Just a heads-up: The two links (to OTC) at the top of the page reference by the link in the top post are for different leagues (25 and 29).
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| | | 56 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 15:38
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Fixed. Thx.
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| | | 57 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 15:39
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Looks like we might make some time today.
youngroman, if you want to send a queue before going off to sleep, I will be available. Or I am sure some guyz ahead of you in the list on the west coast would also be available.
Toral
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| | | 58 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 15:55
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Go Cubs!
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| | | 59 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 15:59
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I should be available at least 3 more hours. In case there is not enough progress I will leave a queue
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| | | 60 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 16:29
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I'll be making my pick within the next hour, but am also interested in trading down my 3rd pick, and trading up my 4th pick.
I'll be keeping an eye out for proposals in the meantime.
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| | | 61 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 16:38
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FYI, I'll be away from a computer from about 5 pm - 9 pm TOMORROW (that'd be Tuesday). So, if someone towards the bottom of the order is interested in taking a queue and being a designated picker for me just in case, please let me know. Thanks.
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| | | 62 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 16:53
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KKB - I'll do it. Did you get my emails? Re: 1 - Setting up a new draft; 2 - Being a designated picker for ME (and that I'd return the favor)?
Nice pick of Nomar. I had dreams of him landing in my lap in this round. :(
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| | | 63 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 17:11
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Guru's up
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| | | 64 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 17:33
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Depending on how far we get, I may need to leave a queue...
Due to meetings at work, I will be virtually unavailable from 2P to 10P on Tuesday and 8A-3P on Weds. (Phoenix time zones)
Anyone at the opposite end of the draft want to be a designated picker for me, just in case?
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| | | 65 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 17:39
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I've got to be going for awhile, so if somebody could post a placeholder for me when the rationale comes my way, I would appreciate it greatly.
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| | | 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 17:51
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I'll be away from roughly 6:30pm until 9:30pm tonight, but could handle a queue outside that time frame if needed.
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| | | 67 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 35224618
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:08
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Species, I'll go ahead and set you up as a designated picker so I don't forget tomorrow. And I'll certainly return the favor.
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| | | 68 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:27
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That yelling and screaming any of you might have heard coming from California was ME upon seeing Sheffield gobbled up by Athletics Guy.
I even sent out feelers trying to move UP. I didn't see AG as a huge risk of taking him seeing as though he had Abreu and a pitcher so I didn't think he'd take a 2nd OF. I guess I was wrong. :(
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| | | 69 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:33
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It was bound to happen...I was surprised he lasted that long. I thought hard about him w/ my picks. If he's healthy, that'll have been a steal. Big if, though.
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| | | 70 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:35
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I'm in a meeting from 4 to 5pm Pacific. If it gets to me I'll check ASAP once I'm done.
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| | | 71 | Athletics Guy
ID: 24217410
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:37
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Species, if youngroman and jumpball didn't steal my 2nd round choices, he may have been all yours!
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| | | 72 | jumpball
ID: 111322412
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 18:57
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Species -- Sheff was mine; never would have gotten to you, unless you offered to trade up with me (and you didn't).
Of course Young was supposed to me mine before Sheff . . . Oh well, Mariano is a pretty good consolation prize.
Guru -- I was looking at the Draft Grid that's provided by On The Clock and noticed that you have onlt a P column listed. Is it too late to change that to two columns - SP and RP? I think that would provide value. Also, does anyone see value in having the Util column?
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| | | 73 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 19:18
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Who is out there to handle my 2 man queue in case Slackjawed Yokel does not show up in the next 15 minutes?
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| | | 74 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 19:20
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I showed up... and not only that, I decided who to pick.
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| | | 76 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 19:24
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up to ref and good night!
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| | | 77 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 19:45
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jumpball, there are a few players in Yahoo that only qualify at DH. This is what the UTL column is for.
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| | | 78 | jumpball
ID: 161432110
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 20:44
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KKB, that makes perfect sense -- thanks for waking me up.
Guru, I am unable to self edit the placeholder in the rationale thread -- probably because i'm now on my home computer and not the one at work. Is there any chance you can assign me two ids?
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| | | 79 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 21:02
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There are 3 rationales due before mine, which is due and ready. Should I insert placeholders, or should a moderator do that?
Toral
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| | | 80 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 21:40
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young roman is gone for the night. should we make a place holder so I can post rationale?
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| | | 81 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 21:58
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Done. Rationale away.
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| | | 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 22:04
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KKB - is it too late for me to add SP and RP as positions? And if I then change the existing pitcher picks to SP and RP, could I delete the P option altogether (so that others wouldn't select it)?
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| | | 83 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 22:07
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Hey, Species, you're up. Stop holding things up ;)
Toral
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| | | 85 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 22:14
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Guru, #82, you should be able to do exactly what you typed. If it doesn't work, just let me know.
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| | | 86 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 22:26
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Toral- nice pick. i was hoping that he'd fall further.....
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| | | 87 | Peter N.@TTU Library
ID: 5224721
Mon, Mar 07, 2005, 22:48
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Yeah, nice pick Toral. I teetered with taking Blalock over Morneau, but it just didn't make sense for my team already having ARod. Still almost did it though! ;-)
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| | | 88 | jumpball
ID: 161432110
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 00:02
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My 3 person queue got depleted within the last 4 picks . . . i'm heading to bed with no chance of picking my 4th rounder tonight.
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| | | 89 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 00:40
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I presume YR is asleep out in Euro-land.
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| | | 92 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 08:19
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Toral or anyone at the far end of draft.... can you take a queue for today?
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| | | 93 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 09:39
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I can't be sure I will be around rfs, sorry, you know I'm usually a good queue-taker.
Toral
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| | | 94 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 09:41
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rfs - I should be available until 7pm ET
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| | | 95 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 10:51
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I can rfs. You can send it to me on the draft site if you want.
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| | | 96 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:03
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youngroman & Species:
I sent you both a queue for me. Thanks.
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| | | 97 | grEEr
ID: 211017918
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:14
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has the draft taken place yet? I'd like to see how it worked out
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| | | 98 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:19
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grEEr - check the link in Guru's opening post or the draft peek
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| | | 99 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:20
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It's happening now...the link in the inital post will take you to a draft grid. You can also check out the draft peek through kafinated.net:
Draft peek list
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| | | 100 | jumpball
ID: 111322412
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 11:31
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Sorry for the delay guys . . . I had a couple of long meetings this morning and now I have trade offers to deal with.
Will pick when I get it all sorted out.
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| | | 101 | jumpball
ID: 111322412
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 12:12
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pick made . . . no trade yet :-)
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| | | 103 | Matt S
ID: 19231811
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 12:37
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Khahan has my rationales for my first two picks. I don't have them now, and am too lazy to type them again.
You guys have been killing my draft strategy. I had things all worked out, now I gotta take time out of my sun-tanning to THINK!!! ;-)
I'm gonna start heading down south early. I should be able to keep up with everything via internet cafes, and am sending Khahan a queue for my 5.16 and 6.01.
Peace,
Matt S
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| | | 107 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 13:58
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youngroman & Species. I delted my queue (for now). I'll be around 2 more hours. If I leave again, I'll re-issue the queue.
Thanks!
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| | | 108 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:18
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Oops - Species had forwarded your queue to me, and I just picked. Let me know if you want that pick changed ASAP.
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| | | 109 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:19
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Yes, please!
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| | | 110 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:20
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I don't see any way to delete a pick, but I can change it if you wish.
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| | | 111 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:23
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Guru-- change to Danny Kolb, RP, ATL
I was trying to stop my original queue because of the run of c-losers. I decided to participate!
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| | | 112 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:23
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I emailed KKB and asked him to wait until your pick is changed.
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| | | 113 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:26
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Pick is fixed.
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| | | 114 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:29
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holt's 2.13 Thome rationale is due. Is he here, or does anyone have it?
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| | | 115 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 14:38
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Thanks Guru--- I sent you my next rationale. FYI to all, I am out until about 8P tonight. holt owns mt 5.04, so I'm not due again until 6.02. Later.
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| | | 116 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:12
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Oh, wait, I was supposed to pick a RP! ;)
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| | | 117 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:38
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Don't worry KKB, I continued the trend. ;-)
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| | | 118 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:44
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LOL! Niiiiiiiice.
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| | | 119 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:48
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Me too!!!
What's happening with the rationales? Should I just post mine in here?
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| | | 120 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:51
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darkside, I debated between Izzy and Hoffman(hoped I could get both!) I'll take Mota though.
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| | | 121 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:56
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Yeah, I was actually glad you took Izzy as I really wanted Hoffman as I think Sdg will get him a lot of save opportunities with the staff they have. But, yeah, it's nice you can 'fall back' on Mota.
I'm glad the closer run started as I feel it justified my Lidge pick (pretty much the sole reason I took him so early).
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| | | 122 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:57
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What a run! Wonder what Slack, yr and ref are gonna do.
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| | | 123 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 15:57
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Hmm. I looked at some other drafts to see when the closer run started.
In some cases it was hard to tell.
But here, yep I can definately say the closer run has started! Earlier than other drafts, but thatknowledge won't help me now.
Is Joey McLauchlin still available?
[Note to censors: Mclauchlin, retired, is not Yahoo!-eligible and so the name need not be removed.]
Toral
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| | | 124 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:01
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Well, at least I got it right this time. :)
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| | | 125 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:04
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Warning to Slack, yr and ref: you guys had BETTER get your #1 closer before I get my 2nd one this round!
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| | | 126 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:06
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Warning to Slack, yr and ref: you guys had BETTER get your #1 closer before I get my 2nd one this round!
He's just saying that so you waste your pick on a closer and he picks some stud that has slipped through.
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| | | 127 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:10
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Heh heh. Ya think, bmd? I guess my poker face ain't what it used to be.
And what studs are left? None!
9 out of 11 picks were RP.
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| | | 128 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:11
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I missed it again, but there are some options left that I considered as a #2 closer for my team. - before the draft of course. - now one of those has to be my #1.
on the other side I think that lots of the drafted closers were taken too high, so this could only be positive for my team.
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| | | 130 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:20
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I'm not scared. A too-early run just creates other draft opportunities to be exploited [Toral said bravely as he was blindfolded and offered a last cigarette.]
Toral
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| | | 131 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:39
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what's up with this mob mentality? didn't your guys' parents raise you better than that? If all your friends were jumping off a bridge to get a closer, would you?
The same thing happened to me last year, that's partially why I tried to pick in the middle. ah, you live and you don't learn...
Now I'm trying to figure out how we can use this to our advantage. If all four of us collude to get no saves, we'd get 2.5 points each..
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| | | 132 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:53
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Beware the accidental save. When Juan Rincon picks you up your first save, the other managers are going to be at your throat :)
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| | | 133 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 16:53
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If non-holders of saves made an agreement together that either the save-holders made a fair trade of one closer to each, or they would throw all of their talent to one team just before the trading deadline, would that be unethical collusion? Sounds like it.
What if they warned all closer-holders that unless such trades were made available to all, they would publically spin a wheel just before the trading deadline and send all their good players to one closer-monopoly team chosen at random. Unethical collusion? Or legal attempts to bust an oligopalic combination (a monopoly held by many sellers, not one.)?
I have never seen the exact mechanics of what is "[unethical] collusion" described on any fantasy site or board.
And we won't see them here, either, because we're all nice people. But there would be no better league to explore this in than this one, governed by Guru, whose decisions might start a fantasy jurisprudence on the subject ;)
Ok enuf ruminating. Let's pick.
Toral
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| | | 135 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:12
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Fascinating.
holt has no starters. holt has no outfielders.
So he takes a 1st baseman when he already has Thome.
That's not a criticism - certainly in line with the "Best Player Available" - just an interesting pick.
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| | | 137 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:21
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That's the pick I would have made in his position.
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| | | 138 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:31
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Species, queue sent just in case it gets back to me.
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| | | 139 | holt
ID: 3821658
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:35
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species, I also had no starting CI, so it's all the same to me. there's a lot of positions to fill in this league.
guru - I'll send my rationales this evening as soon as I get a chance.
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| | | 140 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:52
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Guru -- you were supposed to let Edgar slip to me; you already have a SS!! ;-)
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| | | 141 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 17:58
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...and now I have a MI as well!
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| | | 142 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 18:37
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Youngroman, you heading to sleep? Or up? Need to leave a queue?
Or planning to use the "notice period"?
Need to know, cuz if you ain't pickin' tonight, I'm a headed to bed.
Toral
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| | | 143 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 18:43
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Toral - I'll wait another hour and will leave a queue if necessary
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| | | 144 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 18:54
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I picked my 5th rounder and would put my 3rd round rationale in if the thread was up to date -- now I'm out of pocket for about 4 hours.
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| | | 145 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 19:01
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If the rationale thread is behind, just insert a placeholder and move on.
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| | | 146 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 19:24
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I'm f***ed
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| | | 147 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 19:25
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This is now like high stakes poker without the commentary ;)
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| | | 149 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 19:38
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there is absolutely no remaining closer worth a pick this high. so I have to gamble a bit and possibly end up with no regular closer, or a closer that loses his job after 3 weeks of regular season action.
to all other closer-less guys: pick all of those scrub-closers and let me pick the hitters that were left because of it.
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| | | 152 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 20:38
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Guru and Pete - ignore last queue.
I will be back online in approx. 1 hour (or call it 7pm PT at worst) to see if ref picked.
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| | | 154 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 20:54
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Hour and a half waiting is more than enough for me. I'm going to bed, and not leaving a queue.
I will however check in either in the middle of the night or around 7 AM Wednesday, make my pick, and then execute any queues sent to me.
Good Night, Mrs. Calabash
Toral
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| | | 156 | holt
ID: 3821658
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:02
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toral, ref just picked and I think species is around. your pick will probably be up here in a few minutes. you can't leave a 2-player queue?
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| | | 157 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:28
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C'mon Toral. A 2 player queue is too much to ask? That's a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
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| | | 158 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:39
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Ugh - second time this has happened today.
I just got back from blowing snow out of the driveway. I had an email from Species with his queue. So I dutifully made the pick on his behalf.
Then I went back to look at the rest of my email. In my junk folder I found another message from Species asking me to ignore that queue. I have no idea why it went into my junk folder, but that's why I didn't see it when the other arrived.
Toral is probably away now anyway. But I changed Species pick to "Stop Draft". Species - when you return, post your pick here and I'll fix it.
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| | | 160 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:49
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I agree 100% with post 157.
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| | | 161 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:50
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Guru, you're really trying to impress upon me that I need that new feature, eh? ;)
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| | | 162 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:51
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Sorry Guru.
Hideki Matsui, OF, NYY please.
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| | | 163 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 21:54
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Pick entered. Draft may continue.
KKB - I think I effectively found a way to accomplish the same thing. So take your time!
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| | | 165 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 22:48
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Ugh. Ref picked like 3 mins after I left my office.
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| | | 166 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Tue, Mar 08, 2005, 23:33
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Yeah I would explain what the (hour and a half) hold-up was but that would actually give something away.
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| | | 167 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 03:54
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Sorry guys. I was just waiting to get to bed with a headache that was becoming worse until I just had to pack it in. You're absolutely right that I should have queued up though.
Toral
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| | | 168 | holt
ID: 3821658
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 06:35
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made my pick.
I e-mailed khahan.
he has matt's queue.
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| | | 169 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 07:59
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I'll be around for about 1.5 more hours, then on the roard the rest of the business day. I have 2 picks in round 6. i'll send a queue when i leave.
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| | | 170 | Khahan
ID: 2884979
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 09:09
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Matt's picks picked.
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| | | 171 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 09:58
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A friendly reminder....
The rationales (or placeholders at least) are falling behind.
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| | | 172 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:30
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Done :)
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| | | 173 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 11:40
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Just was able to get on and I see that my entire queue is gone. Give me a couple mins to figure out which direction to go.
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| | | 174 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 12:20
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I am off for an hour. I just sent a queue to Guru.
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| | | 175 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 12:31
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ref - you hit one of the two names on youngroman's queue, if that makes you feel any better.
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| | | 177 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 12:45
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Yeah, I was seriously considering Lee also, but it makes my decision to go a different direction a little easier. I need another five minutes to convince myself, though.
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| | | 178 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 13:13
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Lee wasn't on my original list, but was forced to go a different direction by other picks. I am not surprised my q was gone, but was hopeful and planned out my strategy accordingly.
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| | | 179 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 13:18
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yr and SY -- please put a placeholder or a rationale for your 4th round pick in the other thread. I've got mine ready to go behind you.
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| | | 180 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 13:39
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rofl @ holt #176
"(trading) is like re-enacting a scene from deliverance or pulp fiction."
That's classic. Very nice.
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| | | 183 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:05
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After reading Species' post about 176, I'm dying to know what he said. He probably mentioned a player, but I bet it was funny.
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| | | 184 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:07
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Ref - it was his rationale for Nathan:
post 49
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| | | 185 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:23
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I always delete rationales from this thread once they've been moved over, so if you are referencing a rationale posted in this thread, bear that in mind.
Changing the subject... When you draft for multiple teams, do you find that some of the same players keeps sifting to the top of your list? And when they do, are you reluctant to pick the same players on multiple teams?
Sometimes I try to avoid doubling up, just to protect against an injury or an off year hurting multiple teams, especially for early round picks. I'm less worried about later round picks, especially if they are players with more upside risk than downside risk.
The only reason I raise it is that I just took Renteria on another team, so I've now got him twice. I was hesitant to take him on a second team, but finally decided that it was the appropriate choice under the circumstances. I'm curious how some of the rest of you treat those decisions.
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| | | 186 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:26
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This is the only league I play in...I don't know how you guys find the time to do multiple drafts. I can hardly keep everything straght with this!
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| | | 187 | Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:39
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Guru, I drafted Travis Henry in 3 of 4 fantasy football drafts I did last year, and I would have taken him in the 4th if he hadn't been taken 2 picks earlier.
Needless to say that didn't work out great for me. But, if you have a strong feeling about a guy and something empirical to back it up, you have to trust your ability. Some people are better at evaluating fantasy potential than others. You are the best judge of your own skill.
I have had many other experiences like what you described. It means that you are valuing a guy more than the people you are drafting with. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you are right (not like I was with Travis Henry).
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| | | 188 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:45
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When you draft for multiple teams, do you find that some of the same players keeps sifting to the top of your list? And when they do, are you reluctant to pick the same players on multiple teams? Very much so. Part of it is the reason you state and there's another part of me that wants to have some difference in my teams. In other words, can I successfully manage 2+ different teams (sometimes under different rules/categories)? I only have one other baseball team this year and it'll be a much less competitive and much smaller group, so I'm hoping those 2 factors alone will help me have 2 different rosters. If not, the fact that I'll be more willing to take chances with my other team will likely make a difference as well.
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| | | 189 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:50
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Along the same lines as MC, I actually drafted Jiri Welsch in all four of my roto leagues this year. All low draft picks as it was, but when you're wrong in evaluating talent, it hurts. By the way, he was off all of my rosters a month or so into the season... Of course, I just picked up BJ Ryan on two teams yesterday, so here's hoping that the Jiri debacle was a one time occurence.
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| | | 190 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 15:57
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........without a doubt you get stuck on certain players you 'like'. Last year for me it was Brad "Rotowire thought you'd be a god in 2004" Fullmer. That died faster than one of your pop ups, Brad.
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| | | 191 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 16:10
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Geez, thanks Guru and Chris.
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| | | 192 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:19
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I'm back... will pick shortly.
To answer Guru's question... I actually try, where appropriate, to draftthe same guys. It adds to my enjoyment of watching sports and participating in fantasy sports. I hate rooting for RJ on one team and having to root against him at the same time because a competitor has him in anotehr league.
I'm not saying that is sound fantasy advice (eggs in one basket), but itadds to my enjoyment.
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| | | 195 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 17:39
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Pods came so close. Nice pick rfs.
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| | | 196 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 18:10
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I'm going to be leaving shortly and not back until close to 10pm. So, don't assume that sending me a queue will accomplish anything for the next 4 hours.
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| | | 197 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 18:44
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I'm here, but I left my cheat sheet at work. Give me about 5-10 min and I'll make my pick.
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| | | 198 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 19:46
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With the speed of this and G20 drafts on here, I don't think we can call them "Slow" Drafts anymore! ;)
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| | | 199 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 19:50
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Heading out of the office....will be online in +/- 60-90 mins. Not sure it'll get to me by then.
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| | | 200 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 20:47
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Whew, miserable experience today, last 5 hours.
1. Mouse dies.
2. Backup mouse doesn't work.
3. Go out and buy new mouse.
4. New mouse doesn't work. No movement.
5. Wonder if driver not working or if plug and play hasn't recognized mouse. Try things. Can't get past useless "User name/password" screen on Windows. Log into safe mode to try to get plug and play help. Can't get to help -- because mouse isn't working.
6. Set up backup computer. Search for cables to connect everything on backup. Lie on floor and crawl around unconnecting and reconnecting cables to power bar.
7. Netscape keeps closing on backup computer (10 years old, can't take anything newer than Netscape 4.7 or something.)
8. Unset up backup computer.
9. Set up first computer again, for no particular reason, with no ideas to try.
10. Mouse suddenly works. No idea why.
11. Check OTC, see half queue gone.
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| | | 202 | Matt S in Belize
ID: 3128921
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 22:13
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Damn, I just missed out on Kent. I'll be checking in at an internet cafe early tomorrow morning to either make my picks or send a queue to Khahan. I will also catch up on my rationales.
Peace
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| | | 203 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 09, 2005, 22:44
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Matt you're not that far away now. Ref is on, and I'm here, so if SY and YR pick you'll be up in no time.
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| | | 205 | Ref
ID: 5421410
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 00:03
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I'm ready with my pick right now if YR picks and doesn't take the guy I have in mind. I can't be on much longer though so will send a q to someone in the next 30 mins or so.
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| | | 206 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 00:26
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Congrats to Slack for the biggest steal of the draft.
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| | | 207 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 00:41
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figured it couldn't hurt to have three aces...
I wasn't planning on getting a pitcher, but the more I looked Halladay was too much to pass up. Hopefully, he'll revert back to his form of 2-3 seasons ago.
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| | | 208 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 03:13
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Halladay was my pick! too bad I missed him.
my queue also got depleted. here the list in no particular order:
Berkman
Green
Halladay
Ordonez
Sexson
Wells
I have an offer for swapping draft picks, so I have to wait for my pick until I get a response.
now I can dig deeper to find the next players that I will not get.
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| | | 209 | Peter N.
ID: 18256512
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 03:25
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YR, was waiting to here from you.....I knew you' be wakin up soon over there in Europe. ;-) Thanks for the notice. I have ref's pick, but will go ahead and go to bed since you're waiting for a response back.
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| | | 210 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 03:51
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yr - do you have a deal that's almost done or are you just testing the waters?
not sure what you're looking for but I'm always open to trade discussion.
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| | | 211 | youngroman
ID: 221118186
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 04:11
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holt - I have an offer, but don't know if it is still active. it was sent to me at 9:23pm yesterday and there were 4 picks since then. if my trade-partner wanted Halladay - I don't think there will be a trade.
I am open to other trades too. the later this round the better, because all of my options would be a bit too early now.
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| | | 212 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 08:04
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I'll be around another hour or two. will leave a queue if it hasn't gotten to me yet.
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| | | 213 | Matt S in Belize
ID: 2723108
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 09:11
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I'll send my queue to Khahan. I think I'll be taking off in the direction of Guatemala today. I'll check in when I can...
Matt S
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| | | 214 | Ref
ID: 6214109
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:21
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I had given a q up, only to change my mind on the order and my computer crashing. I finally get the computer up early this morning and find that YR still hasn't picked. I may have to leave another q before long.
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| | | 215 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:30
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yep - I've got a short list of players I've got my eye on, but it's difficult for me to assign them an order on a queue. it depends on the 3 players that are taken before my pick comes up. then I have another pick 3 picks later. a queue is gonna be difficult but I'll have to put one together soon.
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| | | 216 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:34
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Just got YR's return email. Yeah it was me that wanted to trade, but I wanted Halladay.
Pick away YR, and thanks for listening.
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| | | 217 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:35
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I am around so we could whip through a few picks here.
Toral
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| | | 218 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:41
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I think this whole end of the draft is ready -- stand by Khahan with Matt's queue.
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| | | 219 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:48
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I picked. I need to leave a place holder for my rationale as I don't want to give it just yet.
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| | | 220 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:48
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I hope this isn't a bad sign....from the G20 thread:
Khahan
ID: 2884979
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 08:13 Que for my 4.3 pick sent to bmd. I should be back by early afternoon EST today in case we get much further than that.
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| | | 221 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:48
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just picked. nobody stood really up. I'm on my way to pick the whole Red Sox pitching staff. this should get me 100 wins and 16 points in the W category.
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| | | 222 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:52
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Maybe he made bmd a DP and left a q for this too?
Btw, Species, you just couldn't wait to make that pick could you? You picked just seconds after I did.
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| | | 223 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:56
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All I received from Khanan was his queue for G20.
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| | | 224 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 10:59
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Well I don't have a 4th round pick in G20 and I'm on deck with 3.20 and after I make my pick here, I don't have another pick for what, 23 picks or so. I'm anxious to make both fo those picks and then get some stuff done.
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| | | 225 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:01
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What can I say, Ref? I waited all night!
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| | | 226 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:09
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not that it matters much, but I'll be making my pick shortly.
I wonder why matt s. isn't just using the queue feature at kafenatid.
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| | | 227 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:19
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What's your pleasure for this weekend? We are moving along at a brisk pace, so we could take a weekend pause, or relax the clock, or continue to chug along unde the current guidelines.
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| | | 228 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:29
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I'd prefer a pause. With a 6 hour clock, relaxing it is almost going to be the same as a pause, so I figure just pause it. I'm sure people will be here and there and we can still get some picks in, but at our current pace, we're well within the time frame to finish on time.
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| | | 230 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:45
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I also vote for a pause, but if it poses a problem will be able to check in enough to keep it as is.
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| | | 231 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:49
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For anyone at the end of the draft who may need a DP, I'd be happy, especially if it's through the day as I sit at a computer all day and have constant access. Just an FYI for anyone who may need to leave a queue.
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| | | 232 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:49
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pause is ok with me, but I'll still check in from time to time.
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| | | 233 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:50
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I have a drunken weekend od Spring Training baseball, strippers and poker planned... so I vote to take a weekend break! :)
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| | | 234 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:53
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That's sufficient interest in a pause.
I'll turn off the clock for the weekend. If anyone wants to pick when it is their turn, they may do so. But after tomorrow night, we'll plan to resume on Monday morning.
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| | | 235 | youngroman
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:56
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ROFL rfs....sounds EXACTLY like my trip to Phoenix to visit WAB on the 25th!
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| | | 236 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 11:56
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Oops.....that was me.....forgot to change back after posting a placeholder!
Maybe that's YR's plan too though? ;-)
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| | | 237 | rockafellerskank
ID: 180352016
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:02
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Species, As you may know, I live in Phoenix. If you'd like to have a beer, let me know and I can pass my number your way.
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| | | 238 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:04
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I'll drop you a line then for sure. That'd be sweet....plus you can show me to the poker tables and strip clubs -- WAB's been married too long to know ;-)
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| | | 239 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:19
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I just set up a thread for rationales in rounds 6-10. Please continue to put the remaining 5th rounders in the 1-5 thread.
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| | | 240 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:29
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I like the pause.
I will be around to pick and take queues.
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| | | 241 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 12:30
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darkside, queue sent. I may be back around 3 EST, in which case I'll let you know I'm back and take a look at the intervening selections and pick myself.
Toral
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| | | 243 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 13:00
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Sounds good, Toral.
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| | | 245 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:37
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There's a Khahan sighting in the G20 thread.
Guru give me until 3:30 ET before picking from my queue.
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| | | 246 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:53
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Apparently work wants to make a liar of me. I now have a meeting for an unspecified period of time. Can I send Toral's queue to anyone? Very sorry for making an offer I couldn't support.
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| | | 247 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 14:59
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darkside, you can send it to me. I should be available for the rest of the night except for the drive home from work.
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| | | 248 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:09
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Thanks a ton, KKB. Email sent to the kafinated address Guru sent out in the manager list.
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| | | 249 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:11
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Hey, I see it's back to him...and my meeting isn't for 15...I'll go ahead and make the pick. Thanks though!
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| | | 250 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:12
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toral's up.
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| | | 251 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:13
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Done. I'll be back on early evening...probably 7ish est.
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| | | 252 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:37
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Back to YR.
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| | | 253 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 15:44
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when the rationales get back to me, go ahead and placehold again for me. I'll be able to give my rationales for all of these after the next two picks I make or sooner.
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| | | 262 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:21
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Vazquez and Cabrera are the other two people I had been considering, Peter N. I was almost certain I was going to take Vazquez, but I had to go with Kendall instead (Castillo was my lock). If he reverts to his pre-Yankee form, he could be a heck of a bargain.
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| | | 263 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:22
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Thanks darkside. Your Kendall pick forced me to Plan B. ;)
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| | | 264 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:30
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dang it Pete. I left your Texas players alone-- leave those AZ boys for me!
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| | | 265 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:39
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Queue sent to Guru and Ref.
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| | | 266 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:44
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Ah now I get it. It said G20 and I was scratching my head as both players were owned.
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| | | 267 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 21:46
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No problem, KKB. I'm sure you'll return the favor at some point.
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| | | 269 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 23:05
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Chris is around. Please don't go to sleep yet Guru :)
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| | | 270 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 23:12
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Give me a few minutes. I'm here.
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| | | 271 | Peter N.
ID: 39211014
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 23:18
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darkside, yeah, I thought Vazquez had a better chance than Cabrera of making it back to me so I took Cabrera first. Glad you took Kendall though! I think Javy is gonna bounce back nicely this year.
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| | | 272 | holt
ID: 3821658
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 23:21
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I'm here in case it gets to me.
I'm also going to nominate the 4th round selection of Paul Lo Duca in AA#3 as "most interesting" RIBC minor league pick of the year.
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| | | 274 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 10, 2005, 23:48
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I'm here as well. Please jumpball, be UP
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| | | 276 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 00:33
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I can't be here much longer. Trying to figure out a q now, but I'm going to have to have some different scenarios as I'm going one of three ways depending on who is taken.
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| | | 280 | Peter N.
ID: 39211014
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 09:18
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I'm driving back home to Dallas today for spring break and will be out of pocket from roughly 2:00pm CST to 7:30pm CST. I'm planning on leaving a long queue with someone on the other end of the draft. Anybody willing to take one? Hopefully it gets a little closer before 2:00pm so I have a better idea of what's left out there.
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| | | 281 | holt
ID: 28226112
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 09:33
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I'll be away from a computer for a couple of hours. I'll check back in as soon as I can.
pete - you can send the queue to me, but you might also want to send it to one more of us just in case.
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| | | 282 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:11
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Pete -- I'll be available to take a queue too.
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| | | 283 | holt
ID: 28226112
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:15
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made my pick. does khahan have matt's queue again?
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| | | 284 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:19
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i believe so. doesn't kaf.net email him if he's the DP?
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| | | 285 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:21
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I emailed him just in case.
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| | | 287 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:26
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Khahan responded to my mail. He said nothing about NOT having a queue, so I presume he'll pick shortly. Hang around guys......we'll make the turn quick I hope.
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| | | 288 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:34
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Some good rationales. Toral, I hope you're right about Odalis. Yokel, Hallday was one of the many injuries I had last year in RIBC that helped lead to my demise.
I'll have my 5th and 6th round rationales after my next pick.
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| | | 289 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:36
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Now I'm the only team with no starting pitching.
That wasn't necessarily my strategy going in. There were a few instances when I was thinking of taking one, but they were always snatched before my turn.
Last year, I had dismal luck with my pitching choices, starting with Halladay in Round 1. None of the pitchers I drafted in the first 15 rounds last year were worth it. So when several of my early hitter picks got into injury trouble last spring, I was cooked.
I guess I'm gun shy this year.
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| | | 290 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:37
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Ref - I had Halladay in last year's RIBC. You must have had him in some other league.
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| | | 292 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:40
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At this point they're becoming more rationalizations than rationales ;)
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| | | 293 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:41
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Wait'll we get to round 20!
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| | | 294 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:42
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Last year I focused on hitting early, with my first 2 SP's taken being Schmidt in round 1 and Peavy round 10. Of course, this year by the 9th round I already have 3 SP's, which is a large departure from my draft strategy, but hopefully it works out just as well.
I wanted Odalis this year too(as I wanted him last year), but again he went earlier than I expected and I'm a little concerned with him being brought along slowly from his injury. However, I still think that's a great pick.
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| | | 295 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:45
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I just realized Toral's team has 4 Dodgers and 2 former Dodgers through 10 rounds...
Something you wanna tell us Toral? ;)
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| | | 296 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:47
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It's weird. ref won't be the only guy crying if the Dodgers stink this year.
Looks like I'll be going to bed listening to the dulcet tones of Vin Scully a lot this year.
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| | | 297 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:48
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That sound you heard in California was me rolling a huge pair of dice.
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| | | 298 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 11:54
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You're right Guru, my bad.
I couldn't decide between Wickman and Batista and ultimately took Wickman. Then thought not everyone would know about Batista so may get him on the return but he was gone. If he went was going to get Piazza to backup C and be a 1B and he went next. I've had a pretty good draft thus far, but when plan A and plan B go out the window that fast, it's a scramble!
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| | | 299 | Peter N.@TTU Library
ID: 58222723
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 12:54
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Geez, my queue is being annihilated.
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| | | 300 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 13:15
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I'm still stewing over my next pick. Should make it in the next 30 minutes.
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| | | 301 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 13:45
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Argh,..I was hoping that Dave Roberts might make it back to my next pick. I don't think I need that many steals, but I thought he might make good trade bait at some point this season.
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| | | 303 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 13:48
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Guru, I debated long and hard whether Roberts would make it back to MY next pick, and I determined that if I missed out on him, his steals would be harder to replace than it would be to replace the numbers of the next guy I want.
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| | | 305 | Peter N.
ID: 39211014
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 14:41
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darkside up for 2.
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| | | 308 | Peter N.
ID: 39211014
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 15:03
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OK, I'm hitting the road. I made holt and jumpball designated pickers and sent them each my queue. If a moderator wouldn't mind, just insert placeholders for my next two rationales. Thanks!
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| | | 309 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 15:39
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11.02 pick made for PeterN
Johnny Estrada
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| | | 312 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:37
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I'm interested in trading down my 11.06 pick and trading up my 12.11 pick. If anybody with a later round pick wishes to make a swap, feel free to shoot me an e-mail.
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| | | 315 | FRICK
ID: 3410101718
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 16:57
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KKB, is there a way to get the time of each pick, like what you see on the Draft home page except for all picks?
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| | | 316 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 17:03
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FRICK, not from the Draft Peek page. If you're in a league, you can click the manager's name and see the time of each pick.
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| | | 317 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:04
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Phew! I was afraid Guru would take my guy, since it was obvious he would go with a starter.
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| | | 318 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:05
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Guys - I'm very disappointed with the rationale updates today. When I posted my 8th rounder, I first had to fill in about 1 dozen placeholders. Now that I went to post my ninth rounder, I find that Chris is the only one to have posted since my last pick. I'm now going to have to post 11 more placeholders.
Please follow the following procedure: make your draft pick and post a rationale or a placeholder. If you are posting a queued pick for someone else, then post a placeholder for them. IF everyone does their part to keep it up to date, then I won't get stuck posting a full round of placeholders each time my pick is ready.
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| | | 319 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:11
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Guru,
I'm confused at how you want this done. I've had my Danny Graces rationale ready to go for a long time. I've been waiting to post it in order (one pick away in the rationale thread].... if I e-mail it to you or post it here, it just causes you to do the work to get it in.
it was the same thing for Sexson yesterday.... I was ready to go, then BOOM a bunch of placeholders before me and after me passed me by.
I've been keeping up per pour request by the "my turn" windo in the rational thread opens and closes too fast for me to see 9just now you had to placehold Graves for me).
Anyway, this isn't a complaint, it's just that I don't see how I could have got my last 2 in without e-mailing you or posting and have to move them.
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| | | 321 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:20
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My suggestion was to post your rationale first, THEN make your next pick. If your need to post placeholders first, then do so. Don't wait for someone else to catch up. Take charge.
If everyone followed that approach, then you wouldn't have to wonder whether the person who just picked is about to post. He would have already posted.
If you have been passed, then post it here. (I'd prefer that you post here rather than emailing.) If you haven't been passed, then post placeholders.
I know that some of you have "day jobs" and can't keep up with every rationale, but we were doing pretty well until today, when things completely broke down.
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| | | 323 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:28
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Guru -- [#321] we all needed to catch up on the work we hadn't got done all week! :-)
If anyone would like to trade up, I'm willing to trade my 11 and 14 for your 12 and 13.
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| | | 325 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 18:46
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I have no idea who I want to pick in this slot yet . . . I'll be back in less than a hour. Email if you're interested in the trade mentioned above [#323]
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| | | 327 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Fri, Mar 11, 2005, 20:06
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jumpball There's an offer in your e-mail to look at before you pick.
Toral
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| | | 330 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 05:42
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Anyone near the bottom of the draft want to trade picks with me? I'm just looking to swap 12th and 13th round picks.
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| | | 331 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 07:59
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Ref Trade offer in your mail for you to consider before picking.
Toral
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| | | 332 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 10:44
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I replied to you via email. Even though Dmitri is underrated by most, he was one of the few players left I had rated highly and at a position I needed. I'd probably have benefitted greatly in making that trade, but would have been kicking myself if you or Species took him before me.
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| | | 337 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 12:44
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Nice pick, Species. Or at least my pick. I tried to trade up twice to get him. Once I was 10 minutes too late, once I was turned down.
Ah well -- these things happen. As the wise old saying goes: "In victory malice, in defeat -- revenge!"
Toral
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| | | 338 | holt
ID: 28226112
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:10
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made my pick.
khahan has matt's queue.
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| | | 339 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:18
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My offer in post 330 still stands. Holt, Toral, Species, Ref...anybody?
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| | | 340 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:28
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I'll take you up on that Athletics Guy. Just post to confirm.
Toral
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| | | 341 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:36
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Toral, can I wait to see if my player is still available at your turn before we make it official?
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| | | 342 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:48
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I thought you made an offer and I accepted it?
Don't you feel lucky ;)?
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| | | 343 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:49
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Not THAT lucky!
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| | | 344 | holt
ID: 28226112
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 13:55
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I'll pick in a minute - just need to agonize over this one just a bit more.
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| | | 345 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:08
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Alright Toral, do we have a deal? My 12.09 & 13.08 for your 12.03 & 13.14.
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| | | 346 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:08
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Well?
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| | | 347 | holt
ID: 28226112
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:10
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argh. done. now I get to sit back and watch 28 names taken off the list.
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| | | 348 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:11
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Yep, we have a deal.
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| | | 349 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:18
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Do we need to wait for Guru to be available to move the traded draft picks around on site, or do you want me to take your name here and you take the name I give you at 12.09 and we automatically trade the players?
Toral
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| | | 350 | holt
ID: 28226112
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:20
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kkb may be around. maybe he can do it.
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| | | 351 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:21
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I was waiting for Guru. Either way is fine I suppose.
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| | | 352 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:24
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Or you can designate me and let me have the pleasure of typing in the name myself. :)
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| | | 353 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:25
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Well, pick one then. Your choice.
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| | | 354 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:26
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Don't trust me, eh. Wise person. I'll designate you.
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| | | 355 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:30
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Done.
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| | | 356 | holt
ID: 28226112
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 14:38
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ha! feliz. that was the pick I was agonizing over. I was so close to taking him but I couldn't pull the trigger. his low OBP and the lack of a guaranteed starting position just made it too difficult for me. actually, I almost took him with my 2 previous picks too.
good luck with him.
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| | | 358 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 16:15
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Toral #337 - Thanks. I waffled over that pick for 20 minutes. I saw Walker's gaudy OBP/SLG and thought I'd jump on it, but then read about his back already giving him trouble and thought I'd wait. Then I was set to take Mike Sweeney, but chickened out there too and also felt he'd make it back on my 2nd pick.
Adams was about the last "closer" still on there...and of course by now we are using that term pretty loosely....but with Ref hogging 3 closers and most others with 2 I figured it was now or never.
Then of course Walker AND Sweeney get nabbed so I settle for the 2nd CI I wanted in Durazo.
Sorry for the delay this AM -- had LASIK surgery last night and have been resting a lot. Looking good today though!
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| | | 359 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 16:22
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Species - just want to make sure you realize that Durazo is not listed at 1B at Yahoo (yet, at least). He's only listed at Util.
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| | | 360 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 16:23
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my three closers might get as many save chances as other's who have just two. ;)
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| | | 361 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 16:33
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I did not realize that Guru......thanks.
Eligibility is 5 games in Yahoo? Or 10?
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| | | 362 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 16:35
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Species, how many fingers am I holding up? ;)
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| | | 371 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 17:11
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I don't think Yahoo states their eligibility guideline. But Durazo played only 4 games at 1B last year.
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| | | 372 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 17:16
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I processed the trade in [345].
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| | | 373 | Athletics Guy
ID: 4271012
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 17:56
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I'm going to be gone for the rest of the day, so I decided to go ahead and post my round 10 rationale. I hope that's okay.
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| | | 374 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 18:11
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For some reason I was thinking it was 15 games to be eligible in Yahoo. I think that's way too long, but we are at their mercy. Maybe it's 10. Cuddyer is available at 4 positions so that could help us.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 18:12
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It must be 10 as according to CBS, Cuddyer played 10 games at 1st last year.
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| | | 376 | youngroman
ID: 298482214
Sat, Mar 12, 2005, 18:14
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position eligibility
short:
- initial positions are set by yahoo
- during the season a player gains a postion if he started 5 games or appeared in 10 games
last year the ruling was 15 appearances, so it is a bit easier this year.
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| | | 381 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 09:42
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I am a DP for Peter N, but I don't have a queue for him -- if he sent it to one of you, please pass it along.
jb
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| | | 382 | Peter N.@ds's
ID: 207141515
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 09:50
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Yeah, just made my pick. Sorry for the holdup. Will catch up on rationales here in a minute.
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| | | 384 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 10:55
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ouch, first Chris Burke and then Jeremy Reed. No rookie is safe!
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| | | 385 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:09
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Pardon me while I take some more time to research. My short list is still intact. I thought other picks might narrow down the list, but I guess I need to do some more digging - either to figure which is best, or to determine why no one else took them.
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| | | 386 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:19
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Guru, I've sent you a queue for my pick (traded to me) that follows yours.
Toral
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| | | 387 | Peter N.@ds's
ID: 207141515
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:20
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Chris, after "thinking" people would slip only to see them grabbed, I decided to not take any chances anymore. :-)
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| | | 388 | Chris
ID: 4708114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 12:29
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I hear ya Peter, this league is definitely tougher to draft in than the one I was in last year. Seems like every round I've missed the guy I originally wanted.
I had Reed penciled in as my 4th OF(was thinking of taking him in the 16th round or so). What really attracted me was his 140 BB to 116 K(!!) ratio in the minors.
Only key with him is whether he hits for power(which he's never really done) or steals bases(which he used to do in abundance). Oh, and also whether he hits 2nd(behind Ichiro) or 6, 7, 8, 9.
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| | | 389 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 13:17
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Hey Guru - TODAY would be nice! ;-)
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| | | 390 | Matt S in Guatemala
ID: 482231412
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 13:49
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Khahan has a queue for my next two picks. I won't have internet access until tomorrow evening.
Cheers from El Remate, Guatemala (nowhere town)
Matt S
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| | | 392 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 15:22
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I'm looking to move up for my next pick. Anyone interested drop me a line?
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| | | 393 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 17:58
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khahan has matt's queue...
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| | | 394 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:35
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anyone know the easiest way to get a hold of khahan? I'd really like to get my pick in without having to use a queue.
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| | | 395 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:36
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I e-mailed Khahan to let him know Matt's up.
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| | | 396 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:47
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crap. I probably should have taken brown first, then morris.
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| | | 397 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 19:59
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Well I feel better knowing that Brown would have been gone even if Matt hadn't taken him.
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| | | 398 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:01
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I like the Burrell pick Toral. He was on my list of possibilities.
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| | | 399 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:03
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Burrell was my guy. I'll wait my turn now.
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| | | 400 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:09
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man that was hard leaving preston wilson on the board this late in the draft, but I was just too short-handed on pitching.
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| | | 401 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:11
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Is anyone else having trouble getting to kafenatid.net?
All of the sudden I'm getting a page not found error.
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| | | 402 | holt
ID: 6227147
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:13
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nope - it's fine here.
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| | | 403 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:18
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Thanks, holt, but unfortunately that doesn't help me get caught up from the last 3 1/2 hours or know who's up.
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| | | 404 | jumpball
ID: 198192210
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:30
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Whatever was happening has just been corrected -- can I have that 10 minutes back? :-)
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| | | 405 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 20:39
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jumpball, I think the server burped. I had a quick instant when the site wouldn't come up. Refreshed and it was back.
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| | | 408 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 14, 2005, 23:57
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Glad someone was at least thinking of Wilson. At this point in the draft seems like a pretty low risk, VERY high upside pick.
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| | | 413 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 14:55
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Nice pick of Gonzalez, KKB. I really thought he might slip back to me. He's very good and if Mesa loses 'it', he'll be the one filling his shoes.
I didn't intend to take any MR yet but then Gordon and Hawkins flew off the board and I figured I had to get Otsuka now.
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| | | 414 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 15:03
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darkside, I was actually looking at another MR in that pick and had considered him with my previous pick, but thought I could sneak him to the pick I got him with. I took Gonzalez over the other MR I was looking at because I like Gonzalez being behind Mesa and PIT not wanting to trade him to OAK. Makes me think he'll get a chance if/when Mesa falters even a little bit.
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| | | 416 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 16:10
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My 13.04 rationale is on my other PC-- i'll post later tonight. Sorry for the delay.
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| | | 418 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 17:50
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)(*&#$_(*#_+$)(* GURU!
I know he's a frickin' Indian, but did you REALLY need ANOTHER 1b???????????????????????
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| | | 420 | Peter N.@ds's
ID: 207141515
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 18:28
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Crap! I was hoping Brazaban or Broussard would make it back to me. Guess I was too early on Westbrook....ooops.
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| | | 421 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 19:01
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He's only my second first baseman. It seemed to me like I should someone in addition to Dunn. It's not like I'm stockpiling them.
I've been eyeing Broussard for several rounds, and decided that there were few enough options at 1B that I should act now. Sounds like I was right.
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| | | 423 | holt
ID: 6227147
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 19:44
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a middle reliever run in the 14th-15th rd? that seems unusual.
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| | | 424 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:13
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Obviously, Lowe was supposed to be a SP, don't know how it came up C. Can kkb or guru fix that?
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| | | 425 | Athletics Guy
ID: 32131414
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:23
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I'd also like my Pedro Feliz pick to be edited. Kafenatid won't let me change him to 3B which is where I want him now. I think the problem only affects traded players because the others work fine.
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| | | 426 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Mar 15, 2005, 20:24
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I fixed Lowe's position.
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| | | 429 | holt
ID: 6227147
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 07:27
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sent a queue to guru for my next pick.
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| | | 430 | darkside
Dude
ID: 3590317
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 07:58
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If Gordon hadn't been taken, scaring me into getting Otsuka, I would have taken Broussard. But, given that I've got two 1B and a 3B I figured I could let him go and wasn't surprised to see him snatched up. I think he's a great 15th round pick.
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| | | 431 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:35
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I moved Feliz to 3B.
I note that Khahan, who has been handling Matt S's queue, said that he (Khahan) would be out most of today. So we may have to wait awhile - unless someone else has his queue as well.
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| | | 432 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:44
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jumpball, you'll be happy to know that Rincon was who I was considering before taking Gonzalez. And no, I'm not interested in trading them. ;)
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| | | 433 | Toral
ID: 22731114
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 09:56
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I've sent a round 16 queue to Guru.
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| | | 434 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 10:41
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KKB -- I had Gonzalez rated a tad higher too.
You sure you don't want to trade? I'll throw in my 26th round pick! :-)
holt [#423] -- There wasn't really a "run" on middle relievers last year, but the first one was taken in round 12 last year and the second in round 13.
You'll get my reasons for getting two in rounds 14 and 15 pretty soon.
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| | | 435 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:45
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I took a setup man in round 12 last year. Someone else took one in round 13, and then I took another in round 14. All three of those picks were disappointements. LaTroy Hawkins was also taken in round 14, although he might have been considered a closer at that point. Those guys were all picked before Francisco Rodriguez, who lasted until the middle of round 15.
Given that impressive bunch of early picks last year, I've been a bit gun shy this year.
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| | | 436 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:47
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Well Khahan posted at about 8 am in the G20 thread and Matt S has posted his rationales due after this pick at 9:30, yet he hasn't picked. Not sure what's up.
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| | | 437 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:53
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Agree Ref.....but he times out in just over an hour and I assume we will not be waiting.
Like holt and Toral, I have sent a queue to Guru, so everyone be back at 1:00 ET and let's roll.
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| | | 438 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:57
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I'm on the horns of a bit of a dilemma.
Matt S is scheduled to time out at 1pm. With his traveling in Latin America, he's been relying on designated pickers to take his queue. I believe Khahan has handled most, if not all, of his queues.
Khahan posted elsewhere that he will be unavailable for much of today. I don't know whether he or Matt have made alternate arrangements or not. Unfortaunately, Matt's draft position is on the turn, so if he times out, 2 picks would be skipped.
If I was scheduled to pick next, I would be inclined to wait awhile longer, given Matt's difficult situation, and the fact that we are running way ahead of pace. Clearly, we are not at risk of running out of time.
I am not scheduled to pick next. However, I do have queues from both holt and Toral. So I probably do control the pace of the next two picks.
I feel somewhat honor bound to make those two picks as soon as Matt's clock expires. But I feel badly about sticking Matt with two skipped picks when he seems to be making a Herculean effort to keep the draft moving along.
Hopefully, Matt's picks will get made before 1:00, and all of this will be moot.
What do the rest of you think I should do if Matt times out?
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| | | 439 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 11:57
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I posted Matt's rationales. He posted them here last night.
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| | | 440 | Ref
ID: 172121519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:09
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RE:438 (whew this is quite the thread) I'm cool with whatever you decide. I have my choice ready so unless it's nabbed before me, I'll be selecting as soon as I'm aware it is my turn.
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| | | 441 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:10
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I have a queue from Species as well. If we move ahead, it sounds like Matt risks getting pretty far behind.
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| | | 442 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:13
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Hmmm... Matt's pick was already due at the time that Khahan posted at 8am. Either he forgot, or perhaps he didn't have a current queue.
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| | | 443 | KrazyKoalaBears
Leader
ID: 517553018
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:20
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Re: 438. I say wait. Though we're far enough along that no MAJOR pick will be missed, Matt S' team will no doubt be handicapped by missing 2 picks and it sounds like a lot of people are willing/able to make their picks pretty quickly if things get going again. He could, easily, miss out on 10 picks or more through what I think most of us could agree is no fault of his own. It's not like he didn't send a queue. Matt S has, as Guru pointed out, made a HUGE effort to keep his portion of the draft moving despite his travels. Given that, I see no purpose in screwing him at this point in the draft. Also as Guru pointed out, we're WAY ahead of schedule. Giving some extra time for someone who has gone out of their way to keep the draft moving this whole time seems like the least we could do.
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| | | 444 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:21
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I would be ok with waiting until holt's time is almost up. Like you said, we're well ahead of pace. As long as we can get to youngroman before the end of his day, we should still get a number of picks done today.
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| | | 445 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:23
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Let's wait.
Sportsmanship is not dead.
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| | | 446 | youngroman
ID: 382311611
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:39
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I am here until 1pm, then away until 5pm and back available until 7pm. so count on me doing my pick between 5 and 7pm (if I'm up of course).
Guru - I wanted to let you know that in post 435 you mentioned a lot of undrafted pitchers.
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| | | 447 | jumpball
Sustainer
ID: 33050298
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:43
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RE: #434 & #435
I was going to post more detail, but I didn't want to put names out there that hadn't been drafted yet.
"gun shy" ? -- i wish you had mentioned that earlier, Guru, I might have waited 2 more rounds! :-)
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| | | 448 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:49
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don't forget, I managed to get Brad Lidge in the 19th round last year. Unfortunately, I'm once again stuck in a similar position and need to come up with a surprise closer.
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| | | 449 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:55
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Matt S got his picks in, so that dilemma is resolved.
I made the queued picks for holt and Toral. Unfortunately, Species left a queue with only one name, and that name was taken. So we may have to wait awhile.
I'll clean up my faux pas in 435. Oops!
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| | | 450 | Matt S
ID: 122591611
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 12:59
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Wow that was lucky! I did send a queue to Khahan last night, however it seems he has been tied up. I went to the bank this morning and had a bit of a mixup, so decided to check my account online to make sure I wasn't overcharged. I figured I would also check to see who I got with my picks...only to see I had 16 minutes left!!!
Anyway, thanks for the plans to wait for me...it's much appreciated. I will try to check in later tonight to make my next picks, or send a queue. The town I'm staying in is on an island, whose power lines are currently in the lake. I'm hoping they will have everything up and running tonight, otherwise I'll have to walk over here again in the blistering heat. :-)
Sorry for the delay, hopefully things can move along quickly for the rest of this round...
Matt S in Flores
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| | | 451 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Mar 16, 2005, 13:01
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Let's close this thread off and start a new one.
Draft Discussion #2
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