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- Donor [539581218] Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 00:48
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 01:00
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The All-Star Game is quickly approaching and you know what that means...yeah, good old, err should I say young, Prospect Draft.
Now leading up to the draft, my access is going to be little to none. The draft will start on Monday July 14th. I should be home that evening sometime, but will prob. need someone else to get the ball rolling as I will be gone starting on Fri. July 11th. Hopefully I will have spot access just in case.
Anyhow, just so it doesn't catch you off-guard, here are some dates you need to be thinking about...
July 7th at the roster freeze is the deadline for prospects. At that time, if your prospect is no longer prospect-eligible, you lose him. That is also the time when draft picks are determined. So if you no longer want a prospect on your team, you must renounce him before that time. You may call him up to your team permanently, then renounce him as a prospect. That is also the day we use the current standings as our draft order. We will inverse the standings and then run the lottery. Everyone will be in the lottery whether you have any picks or not. If you don't have any picks, your turn is simply skipped. (That is the case for each round). One year we only had two rounds.
Complete rules are on the CBS site. They are very detailed, so please read them. Then if you still have a question, please ask. I have to re-read them a lot myself.
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| | | 2 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 11:40
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Just an FYI, whatever 2B I pick up today to replace Barfield will be on the trading block for a mid-round pick.
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| | | 3 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 12:49
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CRAP!
GO had asked me to pick up a 2b for him. So I did.
Then I realized he totally beat me to Scutaro, and I have to have him BADLY. How about a 4th for my 10th, GO? ;-)
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| | | 4 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 12:58
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I don't know, I'm gonna probably gonna have to drive up the price now for such a hot commodity!
How about some prospects, your 1st round pick the next 3 seasons and a case of Blue Moon? and throw in Umaga.
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| | | 5 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jun 13, 2008, 17:58
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Now wait a minute. No cross-league trades. Unless they benefit BH.
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| | | 6 | Peter N.
ID: 9515140
Sat, Jun 14, 2008, 09:07
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I would like to send Scherzer back down to the minors.
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| | | 7 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sat, Jun 14, 2008, 13:16
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Done
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| | | 8 | Peter N.
ID: 9515140
Sat, Jun 14, 2008, 16:48
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Thanks 'Cards
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| | | 9 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jun 15, 2008, 08:58
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Of course the Padres finally call up Headly two days after I trade for Cantu. ARGH!!!!
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 16, 2008, 17:04
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I can't believe I am doing so well due to all these injuries. Wang is out at least 6 weeks now. Anyone interested in him? I am not sure I cac carry so many injured players.
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| | | 11 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Mon, Jun 16, 2008, 17:56
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Chien-Ming Wang could miss the rest of the season after suffering a mid-foot sprain of the Lisfranc ligament of the right foot and a partial tear of the peroneal longus tendon of the right foot.
He won't need surgery, but he'll be on crutches and wearing a protective boot for at least six weeks. The Journal News speculates that even if he's fully healthy at that point, it would take four weeks for him to return to pitching shape, making a late August return the best case scenario.
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| | | 12 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 16, 2008, 21:30
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Oh great...
The hits keep on coming. Thanks for the update GO.
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| | | 13 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 08:49
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To me, that should make your decision to trade him simpler though, instead of hoping he might come back... cause a team out of contention looking for a pitcher would be well served to give something up to get him and lock him up for next year etc. Plus his injury isn't his shoulder/elbow so its not a pitching injury that would leave most scared. It was a freak thing.
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| | | 14 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 16:46
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I'm formally renouncing any future propect options on Fukudome.
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| | | 15 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 16:58
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He's now been removed from Guru's prospect list in the rules section.
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| | | 16 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jun 17, 2008, 17:11
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I just called up Headley for the first time.
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| | | 17 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 21:44
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I can't believe I am doing so well due to all these injuries.
I'd say your team(as well as mine) has had a lot less injuries than the league average. Take a look at R9's bench, lol.
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| | | 18 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 22:34
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Yeah 9 has it rought. I've already had to ditch several players due to injuries and the hits keep on coming. Now Zambrano is hurt...
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| | | 19 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 19:47
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I want to option Ian Stewart back down to my prospect list.
I assumed that dropping him was ok and I wouldn't lose my rights on him by doing that. Would've waited but I didn't think Patterson would've lasted long on the FA list and I'm going to be without access until tomorrow.
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| | | 20 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 23, 2008, 23:31
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Well he always remains on your prospect list regardless. The danger in doing what you did is that if he had hit the thresholds you would have lost him as a prospect and he doesn't have a salary. You can't add a salary to a player unless he is on a team. Really want to discourage managers from doing this.
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| | | 21 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jun 24, 2008, 23:35
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Could anyone keep Wang?
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| | | 22 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 15:43
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Have I ever mentioned how much I despise the lineup freeze being 30 minutes before the start of the first game? Yeah, I thought so. Since I have two starting pitchers on the bench I'm sure they'll both have great games.
BH, I was looking at the espn site, but I don't think I have commish capabilities so I couldn't see how easy it would be to move the league. Could you add some players and start the league or whatever is necessary so I can look at the features and interface etc?
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| | | 23 | Perm Dude
ID: 42540259
Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 15:50
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Yeah, it really sucks--wanted to move out of Crede since I hear he was injured, and no go a half hour before the first game
And some of these games don't start for hours.
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| | | 24 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Jun 26, 2008, 14:57
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Welcome to the Worst Team in G20, Chris Davis.
I would like to renounce any and all prospect rights I have on Ian Kennedy. This will leave me without prospects.
I am interested in trading for prospect picks and/or moving up in the prospect draft.
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| | | 25 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jun 26, 2008, 15:14
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I don't think you can claim "worst team" since PD and I are battling for that honor. If you want to take "worst manager" since your team was thought to compete this year then by all means stake your claim ;-)
I could be in the running for that one too, but I'm opting for "most underachieving" team instead as that sounds better :)
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| | | 26 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Jun 26, 2008, 18:15
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Pelfrey + a 4th rounder to Ref for his man Wang
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| | | 27 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Jun 26, 2008, 18:34
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lol.......you are 100% correct, StL Cards!
Welcome to the team with the Worst Manager in G20, Chris Davis......who happens to be available to the highest bidder, btw! ;-)
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| | | 28 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jun 27, 2008, 10:43
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Cards, I have started to enter some teams into the ESPN league. I started with my own team. I took the player rater and put every 8th player on my team, so I have something like a roster. You can also do this - it's under the "LM Tools" menu. Do a couple teams and we'll figure it out.
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| | | 29 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Jun 27, 2008, 11:18
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bh, I can't seem to do anything. I can't seem to add players. If I click on Players I get the message: "This page is locked while your LM enters offline draft results"
When I click on my team, I don't see any options under "action" or any way to add players. If I click on League, I don't see a way to enter players from an offline draft and if I click "keepers" I get the same message I posted above.
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| | | 30 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Fri, Jun 27, 2008, 11:23
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I had to do the whole thing myself. That's fine - it's done now. All of the teams are populated, and you should see current standings (pro-rated, and of course I'm in first), and all unowned players are currently on waivers. Have a look.
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| | | 31 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Jun 27, 2008, 11:37
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Thanks. Are those just default settings then? Weren't we going to try to duplicate our league?
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| | | 32 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Sat, Jun 28, 2008, 11:05
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Sizemore, Longoria and Alex Gordon all hit HR's + doubles... Keep it up you crazy kids!
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| | | 33 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sat, Jun 28, 2008, 19:18
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Unfortunately, I used the settings that were there at the time, and it looks like they were changed back in April (when we first had the discussion). The default settings are 5x5 standard, but that doesn't matter because we can certainly replicate G20.
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| | | 34 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sat, Jun 28, 2008, 19:50
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By the way, I'm still looking to deal Jon Rauch in G20 and I'll certainly include Chad Cordero in a deal.
Or Brian Bannister and Bronson Arroyo for mid-round picks. Actually, I'm pretty happy to have found those two on waivers because I think they'll have a hot streak at some point.
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| | | 35 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Jun 29, 2008, 02:14
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I'd like to disown Reynolds and Humber from my prospect list. And let us never speak of them again...
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| | | 36 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jun 29, 2008, 11:38
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re: 35
done
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| | | 37 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 13:51
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You have less than a week to get your prospects figured out.
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| | | 38 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 16:09
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I need to have someone selecting in the second half in Round 1 to take my queue list. I'm away on draft day.
I'm only making one pick.
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| | | 39 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 16:11
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Tosh - as of this moment I don't have a pick until round 2. Feel free to send it over.
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| | | 40 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 16:24
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Thanks Species - Since you and I have previously discussed my double top-secret prospect player ... I guess that you are a good choice.
I don't leave until Saturday morning, so I'll get it to you before then.
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| | | 41 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 17:18
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Remember there will be a lottery draw as well.
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| | | 42 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 16:19
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Are there any picks or prospects involved in today's trade?
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| | | 43 | Perm Dude
ID: 1463718
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 16:34
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No, straight up.
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| | | 44 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 16:48
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Perm Dude gave me his first and second rounders, in addition to his supplemental first rounder in 2009, and his first round prospect pick in 2008.
Just kidding. Straight up.
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| | | 45 | Perm Dude
ID: 1463718
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 17:04
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And a ham sandwich...
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| | | 46 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 17:09
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You wanted a ham sandwich for Cano in Dirty Dozen... I'll get you one of those for free. Well, not free; more like the cost of a plane trip to NYC.
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| | | 47 | Perm Dude
ID: 1463718
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 17:13
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You trying to give me the same sandwich twice?
Ham. Mmmmmmm.
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| | | 48 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 17:48
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Who is Jared Burton? Isn't he the guy that does the Subway commercials? That must be the tie in to the ham sandwich I guess.
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| | | 49 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Jul 01, 2008, 18:01
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lol StL Cards
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| | | 50 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 11:01
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Well there are some objections to this trade. Guess I should have researched Burton before I oked it for my team. It takes 7 to veto it. Last I looked there were 3 objects.
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| | | 51 | Perm Dude
ID: 1463718
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 12:47
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I guess there are at least 3 other managers, plus BH, who overvalue a guy with a .293 OBP (.244 the last 14 days).
:)
This is a future move for me, intended to bring in a closer-in-waiting now while dumping an overvalued "slugger." He's a free swinger who has been struggling all season and has been on my bench, for the most part, as a result.
With just Todd Jones bring in saves I wanted to look to get at least a couple more from someone this year, while having a guy with a good chance at getting the closer job full-time next year when Jones has probably retired.
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| | | 52 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:11
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PD - Burton has looked great, but with Valverde signed for 3 more years for huge money, do you really think Burton has a chance at the closer's role? Cincinnati certainly wouldn't trade a young, CHEAP, effective set up man, so he seems pigeonholed, and setup men with little closing chance (outside of injury) are, while valuable, a dime a dozen.
Franceour's OBP is pathetic, but he is still a 2-time 100 RBI man and 20-25 HR hitter with 85-ish runs for some nice counting stats. No he isn't a prime keeper anymore but still a worthwhile player in this league.
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| | | 53 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:31
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I believe Species meant Cordero instead of Valverde.
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| | | 54 | Great One
ID: 56438112
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:35
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I am neutral on my thoughts of the deal, if PD thinks he may have a closer-in-waiting then thats worth jumping on, seeing as how valuable closers are in this league. Burton's K numbers are filthy this year.
Reds are rumored to be trading away veterans like Griffey and Dunn... and I wonder if they wouldn't trade Cordero too if it got them another good young player.
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| | | 55 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:43
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My bad. Thanks GO.
I would be skeptical of someone taking on Cordero's contract, personally.
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| | | 56 | Perm Dude
ID: 1463718
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:45
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I think the Reds will be remaking themselves this year (pre-deadline) and the offseason. If Burton doesn't move up, they might consider moving him to a team in need of a closer next year (Detroit/Cleveland/NYY?).
I like Cordero (though he seemed to have a very sharp home/away stats split), but he's very expensive and won't really get a ton of saves this year or next. I've been a fan of the Reds since college and hope they do well, but they have the look of a team about to be remade and Burton's stock will rise as a result.
pd
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| | | 57 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 13:54
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I watch the Reds and still am not familliar with Burton though he's pitched a few times that I've watched. Didn't stand out as particularly impressive to me.
Being a Cordero holder, I hope that he gets some more saves--I don't care about which team it is for!!! The announcers talk about Cordero with fondness. They also talk a lot about Griffey. While he may or may not go to the Rays, I think the team are fine with keeping him if need be. I figured as soon as he hit 600, he'd be dealt--but it hasn't happened yet at least.
I don't care how much Fran slumps, he's going to have a place in the lineup with that sniper rifle he has in that throwing arm. I agree with Species that he will help your counting stats in this league. There are better players on the wire than Burton statistically so unless there is some inside info about him becoming a closer, this is a big gamble IMM. Regardless, it shouldn't be vetoed.
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| | | 58 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 14:03
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I renounce the prospect rights for Hochevar.
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| | | 59 | blackjackis21
ID: 20522623
Wed, Jul 02, 2008, 20:22
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I'll renounce rights to Joba Chamberlain.
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| | | 60 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 13:09
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Chamberlain has now been removed as a prospect for bj21. Hochevar has already been removed, so I'm guessing that ref did that one before he announced it.
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| | | 61 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 13:37
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Ellsbury and Votto are called up and are not eligible to be sent down as they are over the limits so must be removed. If Justin Upton has two ABs today he must be removed as well. A few other prospects are over the limits but not called up so they don't have to be dropped or called up until before the deadline on Monday.
There could be more, but I just looked at the guys I recognized as may be close to the thresholds.
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| | | 62 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 15:21
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Of 'batter' prospects that currently have an assigned salary of '1' (not currently called up) the only player I see over the limits right now is Lastings Milledge. Andy Marte is at 333 abs but was a round 1 pick so he is covered by the 400 ab rule and is safe.
All of the 'pitcher' prospects that currrently have an assigned salary of '1' (not currently called up) seem to be OK. Hughes is very close but his injury means he will be fine.
This is just a public service message and not binding so everyone is still responsible to check their own.
I have not checked any player without a currently assigned value of '1', so in other words, I haven't checked any player currently called up.
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| | | 63 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 15:38
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Andy Marte is at 333 abs but was a round 1 pick so he is covered by the 400 ab rule and is safe.
I'm glad to know that. He's my franchise.
Toral
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| | | 64 | Perm Dude
ID: 296439
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 15:39
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Thanks for the kick in the pants on Milledge. I might as well pick him up now, and drop Hopper. Technically he shouldn't have a salary anymore and be a regular FA--is that right?
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| | | 65 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 15:41
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BTW -- PD: in an OBP league, good trade. Francoeuer has no fantasy future. Burton *might* have one.
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| | | 66 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 16:10
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I removed the salary from Milledge and removed him from PDs prospect list.
PD, he wasn't a free agent and was legally your prospect still since he wasn't called up yet and hadn't hit the limits by the start of the season. Once someone is called up and then goes over the limit (meaning he couldn't be sent down again anyway) or is over the limit at one of the two checkpoints, then they would no longer be considered a prospect. If you hadn't called him up now, then at the ASB deadline he would have become a free agent.
Hope that clears it up.
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| | | 67 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 16:30
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Thanks for that kick in the pants too, Toral. I guess you weren't one of the three who tried to veto it.
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| | | 68 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 17:53
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I guess I can drop Evan Longoria and Beau Mills.
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| | | 69 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 18:44
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GO - I presume you mean that you renounce your prospect rights to Longoria and Mills?!?
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| | | 70 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 19:39
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Justin Upton is no longer prospect eligible since he hit him threshold and is called up. He has been removed.
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| | | 71 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 19:49
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Yeah, sorry... don't go cutting that Longoria kid, I plan to keep him around :)
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| | | 72 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:00
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Re: 65
I don't understand what an OBP league has to do wiht anything? Fran stinks in an avg. league too in that cat.
But halfway through he still has 8 HRs 41 Runs and 40 RBIs. He's had 330 ABs so he's gonna get his opps. Last year he had 84 Runs 19 HRs and 105 RBIs and the eyar before had similar numbers except with 29 HRs. He also will give you 3-5 SBs per year. I'm not saying he will revert back to '06 form, but his counting stats could be useful. OBP is just one cat.
Burton doesn't start and has a 1.31 WHIP. His best attribute is probably his K/IP or his 2.5 K/BB. His ERA isn't bad at 2.44 but he's a reliever--and several have similar numbers. Pitching in a hitters park half the time and you'd expect those numebrs to even climb a little. Still PD obviously made this trade in hopes that he lands a closer role somewhere for next year. If he does, he keeps him. If not, well he obvioulsy wasn't planning on keeping Fran anyhow. I think THAT is what Toral is referring to and I think most of us probably would agree at this point. Albeit, I still think Fran isn't washed up just yet since the Braves will give him every AB with that arm defensively. Still with only 9 keepers per year--an OF guy with so so numbers and a keeper are a dime a dozen. Burton is even worth less though unless he can get saves. Neither will likely be kept though so I don't think it's a big deal at all. Definitely not objectionable IMM.
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| | | 73 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:01
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Mills and Longoria have been removed from GO's prospect list.
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| | | 74 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:05
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Its like Franceour is that dollar bill in your pocket... and Burton is a lottery ticket.
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| | | 75 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:11
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That should say a NON-KEEPER are a dime a dozen.
GO are you saying that the Lottery Ticket has long odds of hitting the jackpot?
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| | | 76 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 20:27
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Just that its nice to be comfortable and have a buck in your pocket, but you'll never really hit the jackpot without having a few "lottery tickets" too.
I think Slizz and myself have copyrighted the lottery ticket methodology of fantasy managing lol...
I guess Roosevelt said it best -- “It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
Teddy Roosevelt, speaking at the Sorbonne in Paris, April 23, 1910
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| | | 77 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 21:21
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I'd say Francoeur and Burton are both lottery tickets. I wouldn't even say that Francoeur is a better one. Burton's upside is as a closer, and I'm already way up there in saves this year and have two closers on my roster who I have been actively trying to peddle (three if you count Chad Cordero, who fits that description).
I'd rather gamble on finding a hitter worth keeping. The odds are longer, but the result is better, if it happens.
Ref, I don't think you'll find too many relievers who are young, have a good K rate, are among the first who will lay claim on a closer job, and have an ERA anywhere near Burton. I know this because I've been looking for them all season. If you can find anybody, let me know and I'll see if I can pick em up.
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| | | 78 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 22:27
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I'll renounce my rights to Cueto. He's not over the limits but is one start away from them.
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| | | 79 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Thu, Jul 03, 2008, 22:27
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I'll renounce my rights to Cueto. He's not over the limits but is one start away from them.
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| | | 80 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 08:22
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According to WIFN's Bill Shanks, the Braves have sent Jeff Francoeur to Double-A and are calling up Jason Perry to replace him.
We were hoping to get some additional confirmation here, but it's looking like that will be impossible until the morning. It's perfectly reasonable for the Braves to believe that Francoeur would have an easier time breaking out of his slump in the minors than in the majors, but they're taking a big defensive downgrade by subtracting him from their outfield and they don't have any great choices to replace him. Jordan Schafer isn't hitting in Double-A, and while the Braves have been hyperaggressive with top prospects before, they're not going to haul up Jason Heyward from low-A ball this year. Perry, a quad-A player with big numbers this year, gets the nod and probably would have even if Brandon Jones happened to be eligible to rejoin the team. Still, he may only stick until Matt Diaz returns. Ideally, Francoeur would put a few good games together and rejoin the team right after the break.
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| | | 81 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 10:39
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Franceour to the minors! haha...
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| | | 82 | Perm Dude
ID: 969411
Fri, Jul 04, 2008, 12:09
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Timing is everything...
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| | | 83 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 11:33
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I'll email everyone as well just in case, but the deadline to renounce any prospect is the freeze MONDAY--which looks like will be 12:10 PM ET. At that time, the draft picks will be set. If any player is found to be illegal, they will be lost. Cards and I have went skimmed over them and identified a few. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. See our prospect rules for help.
Remember that if your prospect hits the threshold after the freeze, then that player will have to be kept as part of your 9 if you'd like to retain him for next year. So strategize accordingly.
Standings for the draft order and lottery draw will be determined after Sunday's games (Mon morning).
Lastly, Myself, Tosh and Species are all unavailable to start the draft on the 14th. My availability will also be severely limited at times Sun-Tues this week. Hopefully Cards will be able to kick off the draft for us. I'll try and get everything ready but I will be out of town three days prior to that as well (11-14 all told) and unsure of access. Most of you have done this so much, it shouldn't take a lot.
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| | | 84 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:12
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I renounce my rights to Andy Marte.
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| | | 85 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:33
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Since, you automatically keep any prospects not renounced, it is pointless to have a separate prospect declaration thread I think.
GL has renounced Barton.
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| | | 86 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 12:46
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With Marte renounced, there are no more prospects remaining whow ere drafted in the first round. There are still three left who were drafted in our first draft (all Rd 3). There are still 8 players drafted in the first two drafts (first 5 rounds) whose limits are still grandfathered under the original prospect limits.
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| | | 87 | Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 15:59
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I renounce prospect rights to Jay Bruce
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| | | 88 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Jul 05, 2008, 16:07
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Done mbj.
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| | | 89 | StLCards
ID: 372301819
Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 16:37
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I'm renouncing the rights to Carlos Gonzalez and have removed him from my prospect list.
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| | | 90 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 21:17
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By the way, do the managers who vetoed the trade have any desire to man up and say why? Were you ridiculing me for trading for a minor leaguer?
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| | | 91 | Code Cracker
ID: 300152013
Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 21:18
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I'm renouncing the rights to Felix Pie and request he be removed from my prospect list.
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| | | 92 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 21:26
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90: objected not vetoed.
91: Done
I am going back and forth to decide if I'm going to renounce Headley or not. Gotta figure it out soon...
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| | | 93 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 06, 2008, 23:59
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I renounce Chase Headley.
I won't be happy if he gets hurt and doesn't get 300 ABs but he is their future supposedly.
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| | | 94 | Perm Dude
ID: 16633611
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 00:05
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I renounce rights to Joel Guzman.
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| | | 95 | darkside
ID: 1664776
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 07:50
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Please call up Hughes and drop Bennett from my team. With him on my team, I'll renounce my prospect rights to him.
Good chance he comes back and goes over the IP limits by the end of the year, so I'll renounce and draft a new prospect. Thanks!
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| | | 96 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 08:27
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93-95 were all processed.
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| | | 97 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 14:32
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Prospects are set:
Prospects
(Draft Rounds 1-3 '04; Rds 4-5, '05;. Rds 6-8, '06; Rds 9-11, '07)
MGR: #, Name,Pos,Team,(# Call-ups), *not in db/salary
Allhair: 7.05 Wade Davis,P,TB; 9.08 Matt Wieters,C,Bal
bmd: 3.11 Ian Stewart,3B,Col(1); 10.05 Henry Sosa,SP,SF*
bj21:10.04 Jon Meloan,P,LAD; 11.01 Will Inman,P,MIL
Blue Hen: 7.02 Jose Tabata,OF,NYY; 8.01 Elvis Andrus,SS,ATL; 9.01 David Price,SP,TB
Code 9.13 Wladimir Balentien,OF,SEA; 10.06 Brandon Jones,OF,ATL
Darkside: 4.05 Brandon Wood,3B,LAA; 9.02 Matt LaPorta,OF,MIL
GoatLocker 9.03 Eric Hurley,SP,TEX
Great One 9.05 Michael Moustakas,3B,KC;
Guru: 4.14 Andy LaRoche,3B,LAD(1); 10.01 Travis Snider,OF,TOR; 11.02 Jeff Clement,C,SEA
MBJ: 9.18 Angel Villalona,3B,SF*
PD: 3.14 Jeff Niemann,P,TB; 9.19 Carlos Carrasco,SP,PHI
Peter N: 4.02 Cameron Maybin,OF,DET(1); 10.09 Max Scherzer,P,ARI(1)
Ref: 9.15 Nick Adenhart,P,LAA(1); 9.17 Brandon Moss,OF,BOS;
R9: 9.14 Jacob McGee,P,TB;
SlackYokel: 10.03 Fernando Martinez,OF,NYM
Species:
StL Cards:9.07 Colby Rasmus,OF,StL
Toral: 6.06 Andrew McCutchen,OF,PIT; 9.09 Clayton Kershaw,P,LA
Tosh: 7.07 Adam Miller,P,CLE; 9.10 Rick Porcello,P,DET
Twarpy: 10.11 Troy Patton,P,BAL
These managers have had their 2008 Prospect Draft selections altered via trades
3-12 bmd gets Species' 1st round prospect pick (S. Drew)
5-15 blue hen gets Pete's 1st rounder (Vazquez deal)
Standings are set. No ties. Teams 7-20 are in lottery draw. Reversal of standings. No snake.
Rank Team
1 Ref
2 blackjackis21
3 bmd
4 myboyjack
5 Albert Pujols' Elbow
6 Code Cracker
7 Guru
8 allhair allstars
9 Pete's Makin' It Rain
10 Utley's Elderly Crew
11 U Can't Tosh This
12 Species = Worst Manager in G20
13 GL On The Move
14 Darkside of ACME
15 GO's Phoenix Rising
16 Slackjawed Yokel
17 Blue Hen
18 Toral Blues
19 StL Cards
20 Mo Vaughn's Breakfast Buffet
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| | | 98 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:16
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5 players are still grandfathered under original rules.
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| | | 99 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:27
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Guru has sent the lottery info to me. I am running it right now...
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| | | 100 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:31
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Lottery winner is...
StL Cards!
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| | | 101 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:32
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2nd ball is also Cards...Repick
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| | | 102 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:33
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2nd Pick goes to Allhair!
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| | | 103 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:34
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3rd pick goes to Great One!
Will one of the others that were sent results, please confirm at your leisure.
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| | | 104 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:39
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Dammit Pete. Try harder next time. Allhair is even higher than you are... dammit.
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| | | 105 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:41
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I am going to figure out the draft grid and actual picks momentarily...but here is the BASE Order...
Rd 1
1. Cards
2. AA
3. GO
4. PD
5. Toral
6. BH
7. Yokel
8. Darkside
9. GL
10. Species
11. Tosh
12. R9
13. Pete
14. Guru
15. Code
16. Twarpy
17. MBJ
18. bmd
19. bj21
20. Ref
Other rounds will simply reverse standings. If anyone doesn't have a pick, they will simply be skipped.
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| | | 106 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:43
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Darky with the HUGE jump up for the first round. He had 7 balls out of 1001. GO had 59 and Cards had 200. PD had 250 and Toral had 148 but got shut out.
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| | | 107 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 15:59
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[103] Results confirmed.
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| | | 108 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:13
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| | 2008 G20 Prospect Draft Grid | | | | Round 12 | Round 13 | Round 14 | | 1 | Cards | Cards | Species | | 2 | allhair | Yokel | | | 3 | GO | GO | | | 4 | PD | GL | | | 5 | Toral | Species | | | 6 | Yokel | R9 | | | 7 | Darkside | Twarpy | | | 8 | GL | MBJ | | | 9 | bmd | | | | 10 | Tosh | | | | 11 | R9 | | | | 12 | BH# | | | | 13 | Code | | | | 14 | Twarpy | | | | 15 | MBJ | | | | 16 | bmd | | | | 17 | bj21 | | | | 18 | Ref | | | | | | | | *Via Species | | | | #Via Pete | | | | | | | |
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| | | 109 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:20
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I can pretty up the gird a little later. The grid balances. 33 Prospects kept. 27 picks. Take a look and make sure I didn't make any mistakes.
Since Tosh, Species and myself are going to be out of contact for the start of the draft and Tosh and I even longer, I am going to get everything set up ahead of time. I will even get the threads set up in THE BASEBALL STANDINGS FORUM. Note that you will not be allowed to make any selections before Noon ET on Monday of the all star break. Cards will be available to help administer the draft if anyone needs assistance.
A couple quick notes...after the freeze on Sunday, no players will be allowed to be picked up who are prospect eligible unitl the draft is declared over. 3 hour per pick time limit. 4 hour total. No one has more than two picks (species traded away his first pick).
A draft-eligible prospect is defined as a hitter that has less than 150 AB or a pitcher with less than 55 IP or 20 GP and has not been on your active roster within one week prior to the draft. They do not need to be in CBS player database, but can not be still in high school/college, etc. They need to either be on a pro team, drafted by a team, or a current free agent/professional Japanese or Cuban player.
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| | | 110 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:21
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Pick 9 should be *.
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| | | 111 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 16:39
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Awesome. I counted 12 players I'd like. So that means I'll get one of them...
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| | | 112 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jul 07, 2008, 17:13
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Last year's prospect draft
If you have a prospect trade only that does not invlove a player off your team, you can post it here and confirm. If it involved a squad member, it still needs to go through CBS. During the draft if you have a trade involving a player and a prospect, you will most likely need to put it on CBS and have the other manager draft the player in question as to allow for manager review of the trade.
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| | | 113 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 08:27
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after the freeze on Sunday, no players will be allowed to be picked up who are prospect eligible unitl the draft is declared over
This means no one may add a prosepct-eligible person via FA on your regular team. This rule is in place to protect the integrity of the draft. Since there are no games going on anyway--it won't hurt you to wait until after the draft if he's not drafted.
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| | | 114 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Jul 08, 2008, 11:01
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Angel Villalona is now in the database, so I added a salary for him. Somehow I added LaPorta to mbj's team at the same time, so just ignore that transaction and he has since been dropped again.
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| | | 115 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 12:45
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Ugh, CBS sucks so bad. The freeze is so ridiculously stupid. We need to stop giving them money.
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| | | 116 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 13:10
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BH and the head programmer for ESPN's site has been working with us to try to make their site work with us. It's not able to do so yet but some of the issues will be fixed in time for next year. Still others may not be. Working on it. BH made us a league and we have worked on things.
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| | | 117 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:02
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*cough*
He's not exactly the head programmer. But he is in the fantasy group and is a good way to get things done.
What I'd like to see, either here or on the ESPN league page, is a full list of what would be needed to run G20 on ESPN. That way, we can work through the list and get as many of them as possible into the ESPN fantasy roadmap.
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| | | 118 | Great One
ID: 2241519
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:41
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Yankee-Rays notes.
Giambi moustache day is funny and Posada's helmet you can't see the NY logo its so dirty (and my friend would always throw the "we're so cleancut, shaven, shiny helmets and classy" etc what happenened Girardi?! making them more blue-collar? :)
Reid Brignac looks like he's 12 years old.
Holy crap - Brett Gardner was a walk-on at my college! (Charleston) but he plays for the stupid Yankees, boo.... I'm so conflicted.
Anyone need some steals? Gardner could be good for a few weeks of big steals #'s for real cheap.
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| | | 119 | blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 14:47
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I'll offer a mid-level pick. And I was going to take him in the prospect draft - you ruined my plan.
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| | | 120 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 15:26
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RE: 117
I made a list on that ESPN page. Your ESPN dude agreed that several issues would be included next year but others he wasn't sure about.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 23:54
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I guess Francouer tore up AAA and was brought back already. Well he just homered against DLowe who had been lights out until then. Mabye that AAA stint was the boost he needed.
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ID: 346321118
Fri, Jul 11, 2008, 22:22
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RE: 104
Considering how bad Vazquez has been, that's what you get. :-)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Jul 16, 2008, 01:16
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