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Subject: Gurupie 20 2012 Preseason Discussion

Posted by: Species - Dude [07724916] Sun, Feb 19, 2012, 21:49

Greetings, all......pitchers and catchers have reported, so it is time to get things moving on the 2012 G20 season.

First order of business: Please confirm whether or not you are returning!

We'll get keeper dates (something around March 10th-13th) and draft dates (maybe the 14th-16th-ish) going pretty soon as well.

Lots of trade possibilities out there! Time to see some picks and players moved around!

allhair allstars
ID: 141181921
Sun, Feb 19, 2012, 22:18

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Feb 19, 2012, 22:21

I'm in

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Feb 19, 2012, 23:37

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 00:14

In.

Meatwads from G20 Hoops wants in if there is an opening.

Toral
ID: 010321615
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 02:28

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 09:16

Great One
ID: 113241019
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 09:25

I'll be back.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 09:31

In!!!!!

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 13:20

I will be back.

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 13:34

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 14:35

In:
Species
allhair
Goatlocker
mjd
Toral
Tosh
Great One
Judy
youngroman
Nerfherders
Guru

Yet to respond
blue hen
Ref
R9
bmd
darkside
Jaydog
Peter N.
slizz
Yokel

R9
ID: 280231323
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 16:02

In!

Anyone want a prospect or two? Or a draft pick or two? Looking to upgrade a keeper or three...

Bh
ID: 426111516
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 19:56

In.

Pete N.
ID: 31551019
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 21:05

In!

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 10:44

slizz
ID: 49112211
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 12:01

In.

I might need some help come draft day though as I don't have access to my phone or a computer when I'm working.

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 18:00

I think my round 7 goes to Go (Nieman trade).

Both my round 9 go to mjd (one from R9 for Lee to mjd for vogelsong and one to mjd for young)

I get GO's 11th rounder (Neiman maybe)

I get mjd's 13th for Vogelsong.

It's here in thread #1170:
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=base&thread=20100&last=1329259773

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 20:34

To save space you can make youngroman into YR!

Pete N.
ID: 31551019
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 21:13

I think last year was the first year I didn't make any trades involving draft picks.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 00:13

18 - will look into those. I went pretty fast.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 17:07

I've had Roy Halladay a long time. And today, I finally trade him away. :-(

BlueHen traded Paul Konerko, CWS 1B to Tosh
BlueHen traded J.J. Putz, Ari RP to Tosh
BlueHen traded Daniel Hudson, Ari SP to Tosh

Tosh traded Roy Halladay, Phi SP to BlueHen
Tosh traded Jerome Williams, LAA SP to BlueHen
Tosh traded Luke Hughes, Min 2B to BlueHen

Species
ID: 124591311
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 17:12

Nice trade guys.

Everyone else: WAKE UP!! ;)

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 17:16

Didn't I make enough trades last season???

Do have one pending though...

Once I see keepers I get more interested...

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 17:18

Confirmed and accepted on ESPN. Daniel Hudson is going to be good this year and for the next couple of years. Hopefully Halladay is better at least for a little while. Also of note is Putz, who I got by trading Shelby Miller - kind of wish I could have that one back.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 17:32

I've been a fan of JJ since the days of him being a middle reliever. He would yak with me at Safeco out in the bullpen area. Funny guy.

Blue Hen
ID: 581352419
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 20:36

Oh yeah, forgot about the Seattle connection. Should have gotten more out of you.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 21:44

Species always plays the Mariner card anytime I ask about Felix. :)

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 21:58

Let us not talk about Felix since I traded him to Species, and can't remember who for ;)

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 22:09

Just Justin Upton buddy.....not like it was a slouch

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Feb 24, 2012, 22:10

STILL WAITING ON:

Ref
darkside
Jaydog
Yokel

bmd - email me please

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Feb 25, 2012, 00:47

#18 - okay judy, I updated the League Note to reflect those trades. Sorry those didn't get entered in last year. You tried to remind us then, too :)

I'll have to update the draft grid at work and have someone post it.

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sat, Feb 25, 2012, 01:11

Species I replied initially and emailed you back. I am in.

Jaydog
ID: 597111721
Sat, Feb 25, 2012, 09:10

Im in this year

Bh
ID: 426111516
Sat, Feb 25, 2012, 16:54

Looking for a closer to keep? Javy Guerra was named closer for the Dodgers, and he can be yours for a pick upgrade.

R9
ID: 280231323
Sat, Feb 25, 2012, 21:06

And by named closer, Bh really means:

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly has said that Guerra is beginning camp as the Dodgers closer over Kenley Jansen, though he acknowledged there still is a competition, the LA Times reports. Jansen's strikeout last season was off the charts, so he has the higher ceiling than Guerra, but Guerra also didn't merit losing the job on his own performance last season. Speaking about Guerra, Mattingly said: "He's not Mariano [Rivera] or somebody that says, 'Hey, that's mine,' and you don't even think about anyone else. It's competition."

What a vote of confidence! ;)

Bh
ID: 426111516
Sun, Feb 26, 2012, 11:18

Yep, right after he said "That guy is our closer." Where is that quote? If he were Mariano Rivera, he would be kept and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Also looking to trade Jonny Venters, if you're headed down that path...

darkside
ID: 181392619
Sun, Feb 26, 2012, 20:40

Sorry for taking so long to respond. I'm in.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 10:11

Still waiting on Yokel to respond, but it looks like we aren't going to have any new managers this year. Good continuity.

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 19:51

Blue Hen sends me Josh Beckett and his 13th round pick for my 3rd round pick.

Bh
ID: 426111516
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 19:58

Confirmed. Thanks Nerf (and nice name - love Star Wars).

Jonny Venters is on the block!

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 21:48

Trade added to the league website.

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 18:43

Nerf sends: Curtis Granderson

Species sends: Ryan Roberts, Josh Willingham, James Shields, Sergio Santos

Species
ID: 124591311
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 19:25

Confirmed.

I'm buying high.......but had excess assets to trade. I think it works for both teams.

Species
ID: 124591311
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 20:22

I have reviewed the prospect list and the following players are ineligible to remain on the prospect list (officially AT the Keeper Deadline):

Eric Hosmer
Brandon Allen
Aroldis Chapman
Mike Minor

If their respective teams wish to retain their rights, they will need to be included amongst their 9 keepers.

I went from memory in terms of what players I actually looked up. It is every manager's responsibility to keep track of their own prospects. If you forget to check and someone (Commish, another manager) points this out with no advance warning...........tough doo-doo.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 21:26

Prospect eligibility limits please.

Bh
ID: 426111516
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 22:03

I'll call up Hosmer and drop Luke Hughes. I'm going to keep Hosmer anyway.

My other prospects are Betances and Arodys, both far below the limit.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 22:06

Judy - at the keeper deadline (and the prospect keeper deadline) the limits are:

Maximum 300 AB's for a hitter
Maximum 110 IP or 40 games pitched for pitchers

NOTE: the limits for the prospect DRAFT itself are different.

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 14:31

No response from Yokel....willl try again, but this is getting close to the point of no return. If I don't hear from him by Sunday, we will need to consider replacing him.

If it comes to that, Khahan - a former owner - expressed interest. Additionally, everyone's favorite hoops trading partner, Meatwads, expressed interest. Lastly, MBT - with whom many of us have probably played with in RIBC - expressed interest to me via email.

In general, I believe in the past we have favored past owners and other G20/G24 participants. Any preferences? Throw names in a hat/random draw?

Hopefully it doesn't come to that....but we are getting close.

Anyone have yokel's Yahoo account? Was it beezle_bubba? beezlebubba?

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 14:39

"Slackjawed Yokel" ~ beezle_bubba@yahoo.com

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 15:09

Thanks Tosh. Don't know if he uses that one for ESPN, but that's what I remembered and I just emailed him there.

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 16:12

I'm probably going to have to let Chapman go. Too bad his MLB time was used up in such a useless manor.

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 16:14

When we post keepers, could we please also post the giveaways. It will save the hassle of looking them up incase there is a giveaway player someone might want a lower draft pick for...

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 16:33

wazaaap_guy has expressed interest as well. Consistently - he pings me several times a year asking. He's also a quality player and well-known Gurupie. As most of you probably know, he is extremely active in his other leagues.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 16:36

Judy, here are my giveaways. I would certainly be willing to trade any of these guys for picks...

- Javy Guerra, RP, LAD
- Jonny Venters, RP, ATL
- Mark Melancon, RP, BOS (backs up Andrew Bailey)
- Wilson Ramos, C, WAS
- James Loney, 1B, LAD
- Jonathan Sanchez, SP, KAN
- Jordan Lyles, SP, HOU (youngest pitcher in MLB)
- Derek Holland, SP, TEX

If you see anything there that piques your interest, please let me know.

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 20:03

My giveaways are probably not keeper quality.

Scutaro
Iannetta
Cahill
Peavy
Bard
Adams
Chapman

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 22:56

I would be looking to move some of the following players, for picks or as part of a package (preferred). Posey would only be in a package

C - Buster Posey or Miguel Montero
2B - Neil Walker or Jemile Weeks
OF - Adam Jones or Michael Cuddyer
CL - JJ Putz or Heath Bell

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 23:43

56 naw -- they're all junk.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 00:56

I have some pretty juicy possible keepers available:

Kelly Johnson: Struggled in AZ, but reborn in Toronto where he hit .270 with a .364 OBP. He still had very strong counting stats in 2011 w/21 homers and 16 steals.

Jose Valverde: Big Papa Grande was a perfect 49 for 49 in saves with a 2.24 ERA last year. The Tigers are primed for a 95-win season so Valverde should get plenty of saves.

Ted Lilly: Constantly undervalued, shook off a slow start to post a 3.97 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP. He's pitching in a top pitchers park in the best division for pitchers in baseball.

Alexei Ramirez: While flawed in OBP, otherwise Ramirez is a consistent producer in counting stats: 15-18 home runs, 70-75 RBI, 75-80 runs and (usually) 13-14 steals. All of this while averaging a steady and reliable 149 games played over his career. Not much upside generally, but he's very consistent. Easily a top 12 SS in this league.

Lance Berkman: Returned to past glory to prove 2010 was a fluke. You have to figure he has another .400 OBP, 25 HR, 90 RBI, 85 run season in him.

Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 10:55

Trade
Judy acquires GO's 2.05 and 4.05 + Lucas Duda
GO acquires Judy's 12.16 and 12.18 + Brian Wilson

My decent guys available for mid-late round pick swaps...
Kendry Morales
Justin Smoak
Chad Billingsley

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 12:55

Having a hard time picking my last few keepers. If anybody is interested in any of these guys shoot me an email.

Justin Masterson
Bud Norris
Jayson Werth
Coco Crisp
Howard Kendrick
Allan Craig
Dexter Fowler

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 13:13

In all these years, I have only had one prospect that ever worked out. Thanks for the memories Buster!

Trade

Tosh traded Buster Posey, SF C to GoatLocker
Tosh traded Jemile Weeks, Oak 2B to GoatLocker
Tosh traded J.J. Putz, Ari RP to GoatLocker
Tosh traded 2012 Round 3 Pick to GoatLocker

GoatLocker traded Miguel Cabrera, Det 1B to Tosh
GoatLocker traded 2012 Round 7 pick to Tosh

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 13:15

Wow! What a trade! Now there is some action.

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 14:12

I'm sending out feelers regarding Yokel's team. Not being disrespectful before the body is even cold, but an incoming team needs a fair shake in preparaton.

If someone would be so kind as to please post Yokel's team in this thread......along with his prospects so that potential non-league members could view it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 15:48

I'll do it in about 15 min-- yokel'steam...by 4:0 est for sure...

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 16:17

Yokel team

C- Suzuki
1B - C Pena, A Dunn
2B - Kipnis
3B - beltre
SS - Tejada, Hardy
OF - hart, hunter, byrd, c young (AZ),cruz, D Brown

P - Perez, Carpenter, Marshall, Robertson, Holland, Pomeranz, W Rodriguez, R Soriano, Hellickson, Jurrjens

prospects: 18.01 Bryce Harper,OF,Was; 19.04 Drew Pomeranz,SP,CLE(1); 21.03 Jason Kipnis,2B,CLE(1)

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 16:42

I finally had a chance to look at my team. I have a lot of big prospects on my team...too many. Would consider moving multiple of those for a more established hitter.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 16:47

Updated draft grid from Species:

Pick	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
1	Ref	Ref	Ref	Ref	mjd	Ref	Ref
2	nerfherders	nerfherders	blue hen	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	mjd	mjd	mjd	blue hen	mjd	mjd	mjd
4	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Ref	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Tosh
5	Great One	judy	Great One	judy	Great One	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	GoatLocker	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral
16	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	R9	judy	R9	judy	bmd	judy	Great One
19	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species	Species	GoatLocker
20	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen

Pick	Round 8	Round 9	Round 10	Round 11	Round 12	Round 13	Round 14
1	Ref	Ref	Ref	Ref	GoatLocker	Ref	Ref
2	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	mjd	Ref	mjd	mjd	mjd	judy	mjd
4	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Species	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker
5	Great One	Great One	Great One	Great One	judy	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	judy	mjd	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Species
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral
16	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	Great One	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	judy	mjd	judy	judy	Great One	judy	judy
19	R9	Guru	Species	Species	Species	Species	Species
20	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	nerfherders	judy

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 16:54

Just flipped a virtual coin to break the Species/BH tie.

Blue Hen won the flip.

Copies of the coin flip were sent to Species and Blue Hen

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 17:06

Not much here, but if you want one, I'll swap a draft pick...

Moreland 1B Tex
Mayberry OF PHL
Quentin OF SD
M Cabrera OF SF
J Peralta SS DET

Dempster SP CC
Nieman SP TB
Vogelsong SP SF

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 17:07

actually bh lost the coin flip??? he's dead last now...

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 18:09

RE: 68, I could also consider trading big steals for big power.

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 20:30

72: That grid was sent to Guru before the coin flip. I will have to correct the grid now.

Bh
ID: 426111516
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 21:00

No matter where I pick, I still hate Jake McGee.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 21:37

Whee that means I do not get to pick mr irrelevant.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 21:59

BH - Jake McGee is available in trade. I won't ask much. Then you can do whatever you want to him.

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 38502923
Fri, Mar 02, 2012, 20:42

Guys, sorry for the late checkin, but I will be back. Been swamped at work and negligent in checking my personal email.

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 12:39

slack you in for RIBC AAA also?

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 1237315
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 16:38

nah, I'm going to sit this year out of RIBC. I'm headed to India tomorrow and won't be back for a week, so this likely won't mesh well with the RIBC drafting schedule. Thanks for asking.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 09:47

Any luck on an updated grid or start date?

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 11:10

bh - I was gone all weekend.....just coming back to the living.

Only update is our coin flip. Easy fix.

I need to look at last year's dates and work from there. Might start the draft towards the end of next week. I believe we have a later start to the season this year.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 11:16

Negative. This year starts 3/28. Last year was 3/31.

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 17:32

We ARE using draft time -- yes? It was fabulous for G24 football. And so much faster...

Also keeper declaration deadline? Seems like we should be moving forward a little faster??

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 18:23

Moving forward a little faster.....
And interrupting species party weekend.
I doubt that would happen.
Now that he is back to the living, sure he will start moving..
:)

Species
ID: 124591311
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 20:12

LOL.......I need to get you guys OFF of my Facebook! And hell, I didn't even post about scaling a six foot high concrete foundation in order to hang from the bronze statue on Market street in San Francisco this weekend!

Let me check the timeline from last year. Ref will have a conniption (sp?) if we don't draft "as late as possible".

Species
ID: 124591311
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 20:13

PS - yes, we are using Draftime. Make sure you have your passwords/accounts in good order.

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 20:25

If you take me off of your FaceBook, I won't know when to give you a hard time.

Bh
ID: 426111516
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 21:17

Guys, check my facebook. I met Bill James this weekend.

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 21:26

Why draft early and have a couple weeks of nothing when news is happening and we are rushing to the computer for pickups? Why waste a first round pick on a player only to find out he didn't make the team? It still could happen but the later we wait the less and less these kinds of things occur. Gives the draft more integrity.

Bh
ID: 426111516
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 21:40

You draft first rounders who don't make the team? Personally, I want to get this draft out of the way so I have time to focus on the real ones.

R9
ID: 99272420
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 22:04

Its worked well in the past by drafting as late as possible, and we always finish on time, so I see no reason to change things up.

Though I am intrigued by the possibility of giving Ref a conniption. I'd like to still do that somehow.

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 22:53

Well mainly drafting closers int he first round who turn out not to be closing games. But yeah I have also seen players drafted right off the bat who got sent down.

I don't have time to have a conniption.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 00:38

Keepers were due on Thursday March 17th last year.

Draft started Monday March 21st.

I'm thinking of Keepers due March 15th, draft opening Saturday the 17th and clock starting Monday the 19th.

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 00:48

Draftime is set up. Message sent out via ESPN.

Toral
ID: 010321615
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 07:40

I am looking for a closer and a first baseman. I have available Chase Headley, who is about the #13 3Bman in an OBP league and 3 of Rotowire's top 17 prospects (Jurickson Profar, Wil Myers, Jake Odorizzi). For a rebuilding team willing to hold a prospect (who will likely be in the league this year) as a keeper I have Robbie Erlin. Or I would consider a package for Yovani Gallardo or Gio Gonzalez. Or I could send draft upgrades.

Toral
ID: 010321615
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 07:45

And you can contact me at this address.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 17:41

Anyone interested in Wilson Ramos? Looking for a 6th rounder for this up and coming catcher...

100

Toral
ID: 010321615
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 21:32

The Toral/mjd trade (Headley/Street) includes my 5th round dc for mjd's 12th round dc.

101

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 09:57

A bunch of prospects are listed with the wrong teams. Here are the ones I found:
Milone (OAK)
White (COL)
Darvish (TEX)
Parker (OAK)
Alonso (SD)
Robinson (SEA)
Singleton (HOU)
Lawrie (TOR)
Montero (SEA)

102

slizz
ID: 49112211
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 11:58

anyone interested in Alex Avila?

103

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:04

Bh: good call. I will get that refreshed.

Any comments/complaints/concerns about the possible timeframe outlined in post 94?

104

Toral
ID: 010321615
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:09

Good timeframe.

Please don't badger people into drafting before the official start of the draft.

105

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 15:31

I would vote to start earlier, but will go with the majority or whatever decision is made.

106

Species
ID: 5924715
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 16:05

Updated the League Note with the trades, removed the ineligible prospects as outlined in Post 46, and corrected the teams of traded prospects per Post 101 (you missed Pomeranz, btw bh).

The following managers need to sign up at Draftime, please:
Ref
Slackjawed Yokel
Great One
R9
slizz
allhair

Will get a corrected draft grid prepared soon.

107

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 16:08

Nice. Funny that I got White and not Pomeranz.

108

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 16:31

(101) alonso is mine, listed correctly...?

or do you mean his real, new baseball team??

109

slizz
ID: 49112211
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 16:46

species - it wont validate me whenever i have to enter that stupid image code...i've tried resetting my password multiple times.

110

slizz
ID: 49112211
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 16:52

Also on the trading block is Jimmy Rollins...make me a reasonable offer and he's yours.

111

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 18:09

Pay attention Judy

112

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 18:33

(just kidding)

113

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 19:25

slizz 109: are you referring to Draftime? Try emailing Fred aka KKB on the site.

114

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 21:33

Bh I knew his move the day was made. Do not like it for power, bu he should play every day in his normal position...he was not a good enough left fielder...

115

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 13:49

Just remembered that I have Brett Anderson on my roster. He was amazing before he got hurt. I would certainly let him go for a minuscule pick upgrade or prospect pick - just let me know if you're interested.

116

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 14:09

I have Prospect Picks available for draft pick upgrades

117

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 14:31

bh, you can't be serious.

In completely unrelated news, Jeff Locke is available to the highest bidder. Not going to sell low so it would require at least your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. Dude was a beast before he got hurt.

118

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 15:45

ESPN Fantasy Projection: Having succumbed to Tommy John surgery last July, Anderson is out until sometime around the midway point of 2012; most pitchers coming off that operation need up to 12 months before returning to the major leagues. After they do, they sometimes struggle with their command, though at least in Anderson's case his was awfully good (meaning less of an uphill climb to reclaim it) and he had the kind of low-to-mid 90s fastball and curveball that should keep him competitive as he recovers. He might not provide you a single thing this season, or he could offer 15-20 useful starts to AL-only and deep-mixed owners; that is the range of probabilities involved. But here's a heads up, keeper-league owners: Anderson remains one of the most promising young starters in baseball (he's 24 years old), having earned a No. 17 ranking in Keith Law's top 50 players under age 25.

Ref kept Adam Wainwright, who is much older, for an entire season with no innings pitched. It's certainly reasonable someone might want Brett Anderson. I guarantee he gets drafted...

119

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 15:50

Here's Keith Law's article of the 50 best players under 25, from a couple months ago.

As mentioned, Anderson is 17th. Desmond Jennings (two years older than Anderson) is 15th. Here are players rated lower than Anderson:
- 19 Pablo Sandoval
- 20 Michael Pineda
- 21 Elvis Andrus
- 22 Jay Bruce
- 23 Brandon Belt
- 25 Mat Latos
- 26 Neftali Feliz
- 28 Trevor Cahill
- 34 Daniel Hudson
- 39 Jhoulys Chacin
- 40 Tommy Hanson
- 42 Jeremy Hellickson
- 43 Colby Rasmus

Are any of those guys not getting kept?

120

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 18:07

We should probably do the draft lottery, eh?

121

Pete N.
ID: 31551019
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 21:33

I'm ok with the timeframe outlined in seq 94. I have my keeps set and am registered at draftime. I'm ready for some baseball!

122

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 23:09

Best way to get a hold of me is to email. If I don't respond, email me again. Get so many at times that I can't get to it when I see it and forget to get back to it. I'm signed in for drafttime.

As far as trades go, I have had several send me offers. Most want my studs. I don't have many of them. I have several guys who could help several teams--but my team is too weak to give up one of my cornerstone pieces w/o a big piece in return. Really looking for homers and OBP. I've updated my block and even clicked a few interests. not opposed to a blockbuster.

123

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 23:21

120: Yeah. Can you take a look at Round 6 of post 69 and take the top 14 in that order and run it, we would all be appreciative.

124

R9
ID: 99272420
Thu, Mar 08, 2012, 23:39

#117, I guess he was. ;)

125

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:14

I'll run the lottery momentarily and post results here. Confirmation copies of the number draws will be sent to several managers.

126

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:17

No whammy, no whammy no whammy....STOP!

127

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:18

Lottery winner (first pick): Goatlocker

128

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:19

Second pick: Ref

129

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:20

Third pick: Nerfherders

130

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:20

At least I only fell one spot.

131

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:23

Results of the random lottery draws and the corresponding lottery results are in the following spreadsheet:
http://rotoguru1.com/base/G20/G20-Mar12-14x4_balls.xls

132

R9
ID: 99272420
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:26

Fairly standard draw this year. I'm still waiting for the year when 14th jumps to 1st. :)

133

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:33

In G24 football, we have 16 and I think Toral jumped up from 15th one season. Twarpy jumped up huge one year as well--think it may have been G24 as well. We typically have at least one jump per season. Have seen two before.

134

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 12:46

Here is the updated grid of draft picks, post-lottery:

Pick	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
1	GoatLocker	Ref	Ref	Ref	mjd	Ref	Ref
2	Ref	nerfherders	blue hen	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	nerfherders	mjd	mjd	blue hen	mjd	mjd	mjd
4	mjd	GoatLocker	Ref	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Tosh
5	Great One	judy	Great One	judy	Great One	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	GoatLocker	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	mjd	Toral	Toral
16	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	R9	judy	R9	judy	bmd	judy	Great One
19	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen
20	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species	Species	GoatLocker

Pick	Round 8	Round 9	Round 10	Round 11	Round 12	Round 13	Round 14
1	Ref	Ref	Ref	Ref	GoatLocker	Ref	Ref
2	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	mjd	Ref	mjd	mjd	Toral	judy	mjd
4	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Species	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker
5	Great One	Great One	Great One	Great One	judy	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	judy	mjd	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Species
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral
16	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	Great One	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	judy	mjd	judy	judy	Great One	judy	judy
19	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	nerfherders	judy
20	R9	Guru	Species	Species	Species	Species	Species

135

Species
ID: 124591311
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:48

I need Great One and Yokel to please sign up for Draftime. Let me know if you need the login again. I cannot start setting the draft order if you do not sign up.

Thanks.

136

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 21:53

Wow, first time I've ever won the lottery.
YAHOOOOOOOOOO.
Think I'll take Manny R........NOT

137

Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 15:17

Trade
GO's 3rd + Swisher for Slizz 11th + Rollins

138

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 15:21

GL: I lol'd at #136! Been waiting for that top pick for awhile, eh?

139

Species
ID: 124591311
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 16:05

Good trade guys.

FYI - slizz has enlisted the help of PD for the draft.....so consider him to be acting with/on behalf of slizz through the draft.

140

Great One
ID: 36214199
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 22:21

He isnt really sure he can keep Swish but i threw him in anyway in case he can move one of those OFs he's got.

141

slizz
ID: 151136106
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 07:19

Thanks. Win win for each team. I want to make room for Dee Gordon and it helps GO as well...since I have an overabundance of sb I would like to pawn ichiro off cheap.

If you are in need of a 9th keeper email me and he can be had for a mid rd pick.

Slizz

142

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 18:48

** Important announcement **

As outlined in Post 94, we are going with the following timetable:

1) Keepers are due March 15th, 5:00pm Eastern Time.

2) Draft will be opened Saturday the 17th and clock starting Monday the 19th at 6:00am Eastern Time.

I am setting up a keeper thread. As always, you can post a set of keepers and change them at any time leading up to the draft.

143

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 18:52

Keeper thread

144

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 19:00

Hosmer added to blue hen's roster as a call up from the Prospect List since he is no longer eligible to remain.

145

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 20:31

I'm looking to move Neil Walker (2B, PIT). If interested, shoot me an email

146

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 15:22

If anyone can use an OF for a different position, let me know. I can't keep all of these OFs I'd like to keep:

Drew Stubbs, Delmon Young, Leonys Martin, Dayan Viciedo, Cameron Maybin.

All have big upside. I will be keeping 3 or 4 of these guys. If you haven't already, do your homework on these guys. Big upside.

147

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 15:55

I am offering up my prospects: Arodys Vizcaino and Dellin Betances for picks or players or whatever. If you're interested, give a shout.

148

Toral
ID: 010321615
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 18:11

Who's "Sam n Max"? Anyone we need to know about, as joint managers w/ judy?? Nephews? Creditors? Exes? If someone names "Sam" or "Max" posts here does he speak for you, judy?

149

Species
ID: 124591311
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 18:19

Judy - to answer your question from the keeper thread, Ref reminded me that I need to add all of the prospects to the rosters to avoid them being drafted accidentally. Yes, you mark them as keepers. I have to temporarily adjust roster limits to accomplish this.

152

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 19:46

My old RIBC team name Ghostwood passed away. Ghostie at 15+ and Woodie at 17 years...
My G20 name was Mike for my dad who died last year at 95.

Samantha and Maxine only purr. They are 2 years old. They know not a thing about sports unless it involves chasing around the house. I chose them for good luck.

153

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 21:34

And I was guessing they were dogs.
Shows how much I know.

154

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 23:28

nah, dogs are too much work -- brother has two of those - goldens; he lives in a rural area where they can run free 99% of the time

155

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 23:44

I'm sending out some emails, but I'm lookimg to upgrade a keeper or 2 from your non-keepers for pick upgrade(s). Interested in prospects also.

All serious offers considered.

Inquire within.

156

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:24

Okay........prospects added to everyone's rosters. Be sure to mark them as keepers.

157

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:36

I'll get my keepers done tonite.

158

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:57

Have some fringe keepers. Very cheap so shoot me any kind of offer.

Justin Masterson - 26 years old that lived up to his prospect hype last year

Bud Norris - 27 year old with awesome k rate, would be a very solid keeper if he didn't pitch for the Astros.

Jayson Werth(less) - Sucked real bad last year but still got SBs. Surely will do a lot better this year.

Coco Crisp - 49 SBs and 8 hr's last year. Billy Beane resigned him so you know he's solid.

Allan Craig - 27 year old, should get full time at bats with Pujols gone. Had offseason surgery but should play 140+ games. Great power potential

159

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 13:52

Some pretty kick-ass rosters out there.

Pete has elite hitting. If he hits on drafting pitching, watch out.

Toral has a scintillating quartet of SPs, with elite OFs and solid infielders, including Lawrie of th prospect list.

There are others, too......I don't see another runaway year this year.

160

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 15:51

Then you get to my team... :)

161

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:37

Nerf, your team looks familiar.

I'm picking Great One as the team to make The Leap this year.

162

Species
ID: 124591311
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 19:40

Good call, bh. I knew I was forgetting someone......Lincecum, Lester, Moore and Wilson? Wow!!

163

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 22:09

Re the draft I should have GO's 11.5 and he should have my 12.5 (and he does have my 12.18) (Wilson).

I am not sure where I got his 11.5 but I have it in my notes.

Something is amiss...I should have 2 11's and no 12's.

164

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 22:10

I can't find the post where I explained it all...

165

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 22:20

HELP -- where is the trade link in G20? I can't find it! I am trying to offer a trade!

166

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 22:23

I am looking for an IF hitter with power and/or obp.

167

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 23:20

The Masterson deal also includes my 5.15 pick for bmd's 8.16 pick.

168

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 01:31

judy - there is a Propose Trade button on the other team's roster page.

169

Beastiemiked
ID: 253102623
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 08:12

Confirm trade

170

Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 10:34

Trade
Kendry Morales + GO's 13th Round for Ref's 7th Round

171

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 11:09

thanks species -- found it. It should be in the top line though, with the adds, drops etc.

172

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 12:00

judy 163 and 164 -- those posts are in the other thread. I will look to re-audit the trades Friday or Saturday before opening the draft. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Ref's trade processed. Other trades entered into League notes. I'll update the grid later.

173

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 12:07

Last call for Holland, Ramos, Venters, or Guerra.

174

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 12:08

Last call for Valverde, K. Johnson and A. Ramirez :D

175

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 14:14

It's a buyer's market right now, at least until 5 PM today.

I might have interest in any one of those players if they were priced with that in mind.

Move them for a modest pick upgrade or toss them back to your competitors for nada.

176

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 15:43

Re: 175
or toss them back to your competitors for nada

Or, make the burn 1st round picks on them/keep the pool more full of eligible 1st rounders higher so there's more for you when you pick......

Two sides to the supply and demand market, bro

177

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 15:53

Bmd, mjd and slizz still need to post their keepers.

Ref needs to adjust his, although it seems obvious he will substitute Morales for Martin.

178

Ref
ID: 13211515
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 16:01

Still traveling. Won't be able to get to computer until after deadline. Need to sub morales for Martin. Hard to do while driving. Might be able to. Adjust espn keepers.

179

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 16:19

I have keepers from slizz from a couple of days ago. I'll see if he can verify them as being final--if not, I'll post what he sent.

180

Ref
ID: 13211515
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 16:19

Nm. I was able to do it all from my phone. Except delete first keeper post.

181

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 17:06

Masterson not on my ESPN roster yet, so I couldn't check a box for him.

182

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 19:36

181: No problem. I won't be running the keepers on ESPN until Friday night.

183

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 19:54

Am on a computer finally. Deleted the original keeper post.

Species, we need to run the keeps at espn now so guys can start preparing for the draft. We can manually push trades if needed, I have a few mins tonight so hit me up. I will look at the masterson issue.

184

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:06

mjd, there was no way for me to edit Masterson as he doesn't show. Normally we manually push trades until after draft so they show up immediately. Then we manually run keepers then compare. My time has been so short lately and really appreciate Species for stepping up.

So we can either push them now since Masterson will show up on your roster tomorrow or wait. Normally the sooner we see free agents, the sooner people can start formulating a draft strategy ahead of time instead of doing it when they are up--well at least at the start of the draft. ;)

185

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:35

No worries here, just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

186

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:48

As noted to Ref via email, I'm unavailable tonight (hockey game) and tomorrow (basketball game).....so if you have the time Ref, feel free.

187

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:49

......and I haven't marked my keepers yet either.

188

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:54

mjd, I found it and pushed the trade and edited your keepers. I'm checking prospects now to double check eligibility. If I can get everything done tonight I will run keepers.

189

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 21:01

Desmond Jennings was kept but is still prospect eligible. Email going to Allhair.

190

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 22:14

AA issue fixed. Need to get GLs and Species keeper set and I think we can run them tonight.

191

darkside
ID: 402171521
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 22:17

Good stuff. Thanks very much, Ref and Species.

192

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 22:47

Added all the prospects to the guys who had 9. The Keepers are supposed to autolock one hour before draft so set the draft so keepers will run. If it doesn't work, I will take it off and Keepers should auto run at rollover.

193

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 22:52

Doesn't look like it worked, but they do now have a time on the Keeper deadline. So it should run in 10 mins.

194

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 23:11

Keepers are now locked. I'm hoping it clears out the non-keepers on rollover.

195

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 23:56

I set my keepers hours ago.
Is there an issue?

196

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 23:59

I got 4 emails about draft start time. Which is accurate -- not that it matters a ton for me as I do not have a pick until round 2...

197

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:23

Judy, trying to get the rosters cleared out. Don't worry about them. They are sent automatically. Will probably get more as I try to get the non-keepers off our teams.

What Species laid out previously is what we are going to do. He will get the draft thread set up tonight or tomorrow and clock will start on Monday.

198

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 11:03

What I had to end up doing was starting the offline draft then enter draft results so it would clear out the non Keepers.

This means that players will once again need to be added manually as they are drafted--but since they are now on waivers, you can't do that until Sunday. Just keep that in mind for all you early drafters. Perhaps we can add via commish before that?

Anyhow, everyone PLEASE check to make sure your keepers match your picks on rotoguru keeper thread.

199

R9
ID: 99272420
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 12:18

My roster is fine. Thx Ref and Species.

For the draft, I won't likely be able to pick before Monday. I'm working until Sunday afternoon and won't be able to do much draft prep. Thought I'd let you guys know so that if it gets to me, the person behind me isn't checking in to see if I've picked yet.

200

Species
ID: 124591311
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 13:59

Re:199 and Toral's comments from a while ago........

I am probably a Saturday evening timeframe before I get Draftime set up......so draft will likely be activated either Satuday night or even Sunday morning. Considering that it doesn't seem like we wouod get through Round 1 anyway, I don't think it's an issue.

That said, that makes our adherence to the clock and cumulative clock all the more important!!! So heed the annual "the world is ending"-type warnings that Ref gives us annually about the clock ;)

201

Toral
ID: 010321615
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:01

Actually this year I'm ready to go and free all weekend. Let's start picking ;)

202

Species
ID: 124591311
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 20:14

Judy - you are right. I had you Niemann trade wrong......of course you guys changed it in the thread which confused me (I'm getting older....it's easier to do). I have corrected it in the grid, have updated our latest trades and sent the grid to guru. I'm sure he'll post it when he gets a chance.

Thanks for keeping such good track of your trades! This Commish job doesn't pay well enough to hire outside auditors.

203

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 22:04

Pick	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
1	GoatLocker	Ref	Ref	Ref	mjd	Ref	Great One
2	Ref	nerfherders	blue hen	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	nerfherders	mjd	mjd	blue hen	bmd	mjd	mjd
4	mjd	GoatLocker	Ref	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Tosh
5	Great One	judy	slizz	judy	Great One	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9	R9
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	GoatLocker	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	mjd	Toral	Toral
16	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	R9	judy	R9	judy	bmd	judy	Great One
19	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen
20	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species	Species	GoatLocker

Pick	Round 8	Round 9	Round 10	Round 11	Round 12	Round 13	Round 14
1	Ref	Ref	Ref	Ref	GoatLocker	Ref	Ref
2	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders	nerfherders
3	mjd	Ref	mjd	mjd	Toral	judy	mjd
4	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	Species	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker	GoatLocker
5	Great One	Great One	Great One	judy	Great One	Great One	Great One
6	slizz	slizz	slizz	Great One	slizz	slizz	slizz
7	judy	mjd	Species	R9	R9	Species	Species
8	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside	darkside
9	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Guru	Species
10	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair	allhair
11	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel	Yokel
12	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog	Jaydog
13	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh	Tosh
14	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman	youngroman
15	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral	Toral
16	mjd	bmd	bmd	bmd	Great One	bmd	bmd
17	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.	Peter N.
18	judy	mjd	judy	judy	Great One	judy	judy
19	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	blue hen	nerfherders	judy
20	R9	Guru	Species	Species	Species	Species	Species

204

darkside
Achiever
ID: 3590317
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 22:15

Am I blind or is there really no option to download all the free agents to a spreadsheet?

205

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 4251322
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 13:29

I must not have marked Domonic Brown as a keeper on the site, but I did in the keeper thread. (He was the last one I decided on...) Point being, he should be added to my roster on ESPN.

206

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 16:06

any chance of opening draft time to set Q's?

207

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 20:07

205: Fixed

Everyone needs to make sure your espn keepers are right because at some point, it's going to be too late to fix. Will send email out.

208

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 20:39

** Trade announcement **

Species gets
2012 picks: 1.18 - 2.20 - 3.18 - 3.20 - 8.20
2013 picks: R9 round 12 - R9 round 13 - R9 round 14

R9 gets:

2012 picks: 1.20 - 12.20 - 13.20 - 14.09 - 14.20 - 3rd round prospect pick
2013 picks: Species round 1 - Species round 2 - Species round 3

R9 to confirm......and I am entering in the draft order right now.

209

R9
ID: 99272420
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 20:59

Confirmed. I think. Wait, wasn't 3.20 going to me and 8.20 going to you? Or is it 13.20 going to me and then to you, with 1.20 going to next year?

Ahhhh whatever.... ;)

210

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 23:01

Draft order set........trades entered.

Please keep a keen eye out. Use the draft grid (Guru, if you don't mind updating the grid with the trade in 208, I'd appreciate it) to verify that the order set in Draftime is accurate. I tried to be careful, but it took me a LONG time and I certainly could have missed something.

Please double check your keepers. That was a bit easier, but it's possible I could have given someone the wrong Smith, Hernandez or Gonzalez.

No clock until Monday morning.

211

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 23:04

PS - Ref, Guru and Tosh are all Co-admins on Draftime. If you find an error, feel free to correct it.

212

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 23:46

I'm probably not going to make my pick until Monday morning. I didnt know the draft would start early, and thus, left my cheat sheet at work. If I have another way to evaluate the available players, I'll make a pick, but no guarantees.

213

Species
ID: 124591311
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 00:21

Nerf.....that's cool. I had mentioned it once or twice...but I'm sure it was easy to miss.

We do have ESPN's site to search for players by position, 2011 stats and 2012 projections if that would help you.

Don't forget to pick up your drafted players on ESPN! Commishes.....please jump in if you see a player not picked up.

214

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 00:24

Thought GL won the lotttery?

215

Species
ID: 124591311
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 00:29

Lol.....crap, you're right! Not at my computer....will fix later tonight.

216

Species
ID: 124591311
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 01:19

Draftime rocks. Fixed it on my phone....draft is back on.

217

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 10:04

OK, made my pick last nite.
I'll be around most of the day.

218

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 10:23

Are we picking up the player in ESPN after we draft them?
Didn't do it last nite.
But will if I need to.

219

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 11:34

yes

220

Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 11:46

I'm inclined to move out of this 1.05 pick for some depth - 2nd-4th rounders (which I don't have any of) and or 2013 picks.

221

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 12:44

I forgot about ESPN having a list. Pick made!

222

Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 13:48

Spoke with a couple folks but got the 1 guy I wanted and not trading down. Thanks for the trade talk.

Conversely I'm ready to go a different direction and would like to trade up for another 1st rounder this year. Will give up a mid rounder this year plus a 1st/2nd type in 2013.

223

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 16:13

Some good picks thus far. I looked at each of those hitters taken in-depth before taking Swisher.

224

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 16:18

slizz hasn't put PD into his Draftime account. PD is on ESPN but not draftime. Talked to PD and he'll contact slizz.....they have to work that out.

225

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 16:58

- Draft clock officially starts at 8:00am ET Monday .
- 4 hours per pick
- Draft pause nightly from Midnight ET to 8:00am ET.

You have been warned.

226

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 17:18

Slizz said he'd pick in a couple hours.

227

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 17:22

Make that 3 hours per pick.

228

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 19:52

Michael Choice is on my ESPN keeper list but did not make it onto my drafttime keeper list. He probably won't play until mid season anyway but...you all need to know that he is mine!!!

229

darkside
ID: 12541816
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 20:34

Just a heads up that while at work (8am-5:30pm, EST) I don't have access to the ESPN site nor can I post (but I can read) on the rotoguru message forum.

I do have access to draftime, but won't be able to pick up my players on ESPN. Any commish who wants to do it, please feel free. Otherwise I'll take care of it when I get home in the evening.

230

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 20:47

How many games does Alonso need at 1B to be eligible there. He has 3!

231

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 21:36

POSITION ELIGIBILITY
Before each season begins ESPN will determine the primary position of every MLB player available in the game. The criteria will primarily be the past year's playing time. Additional positional eligibility will be determined as outlined below in the Batter and Pitcher sections. This includes rookies as well as veterans. The listed primary positions are fixed and will not change for the duration of the season.
NOTE: In custom leagues the League Manager CANNOT change the listed position of any player in the game.

Positional Eligibility for Batters
Additional positional eligibility for Batters occurs when one of the following conditions is met:

Games played at a position during last season: 20
Games played at a position during current season: 10 (The eligibility will take place on the 11th day, even if no game is played that day)
NOTE: For a batter to be considered eligible for Outfield (OF) he must play at least ten games in any outfield position (RF, CF, LF or any combo of the three, totaling 10). For example, at one point in 2009, Gary Sheffield (DH) played four games in Left Field and six games in Right Field. The total was ten, so he would be OF eligible.
Positional Eligibility for Pitchers
Additional positional eligibility for Pitchers occurs when one of the following conditions is met:
Pitching appearances last season: 5 starts / 8 relief
Pitching appearances during current season: 3 starts / 5 relief

232

R9
ID: 99272420
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:03

** Trade announcement **

R9 gets:
GO's 10.05 (2012)
GO's 1st Round 2013
GO's 4th Round 2013

GO gets:
R9 1.07 (2012)
R9's 10th Round 2013
R9's 11th Round 2013

GO to confirm.

233

Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:04

Confirmed.

234

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:21

Ah so there is no carryover...
Thanks.

235

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:59

Trade processed in Draftime.....entering into the league website now.

236

R9
ID: 99272420
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 23:05

Pick 1.20 is also available for 2013 draft picks.

237

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 23:23

So you dudes have it handy, I'll be helping slizz during the draft as his job is likely to leave him without much daytime access. I have no reason to expect that I won't be around every day this week, all day, except for maybe running errands here and there. But my email address is above just in case.

239

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 10:29

I should have mjd 5.15 pick not his 5.01 pick.

240

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 10:40

I'm headed for work.
Have a queue in and enabled for my Round 2 pick.
I do have Draftime access from work.
Will check to see where we are at when I get there and then when I have a chance.

241

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 11:57

[239] Adjustment made in Draftime

242

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 12:14

Gasp! My notifications were going to spam. Fixed now. Make sure you check yours.

243

Great One
ID: 340592712
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 13:35

I'd trade a pick next year for a pick this year if anyone isn't in love with their choices right now.

244

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 15:09

I think I'm interested in acquiring another upcoming pick sooner than later. (I don't have a round 3). I can also trade a 2013, and/or an upgrade later in this 2012 draft.

Contact me if interested ...

245

Species
ID: 124591311
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 16:04

About time Cespedes came off the board. Nice pick, darkside.

246

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:32

Opinions on how much of a reach Murphy was?

247

Species
ID: 124591311
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:34

Ref - Murphy was 3rd or 4th on my list of 2b available at the ime.

248

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:41

Aaaand there went Holland. Didn't think he'd last.

249

darkside
ID: 72151919
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 20:19

Thanks to the commish(es) who picked up my guys. Sorry it'll be like that M-F. Maybe someday I'll join this decade and get a smartphone...

250

darkside
ID: 72151919
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 20:39

re: 245....thanks. He wasn't on the top of my list until I saw that he'd been announced as the CF. That cinched it for me.

re: 246 - A starting 2B with position flexibility and good OBP in the 10th round is reasonable. I'm not sold on him, but he could prove to be a good value.

251

Bh
ID: 426111516
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 20:41

Turns out I have a very clear sense of Holland's exact value. He'll be fine.

252

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 21:50

[239] not yet resolved on Draftime.

After 3.03, 5.01 is my next pick.

Thanks

253

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 22:23

252: Ok, looks fixed now. Thanks for letting us know.

254

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 23:11

re: 250

I was guessing he wouldn't make it back to me. My obp isn't good at all. Position flexibility was definitely a factor, but you don't want low power/slow runners playing corner infielder either. I like the Swisher pick, but the rest of my picks have been iffy thus far. Need to get lucky and hold off those dreaded red crosses of doom I'm so good at getting.

255

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 23:26

Can we remind people to add players to rosters once drafted.

I keep getting excited about available players in the ESPN list, but when I go to put them in my draft time Q, they have been taken already.

My draft positions are bad enough without you guys bursting my bubble all the time...!

256

R9
ID: 99272420
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 23:59

I like the Arencibia pick Ref. Not hard to see him hitting 25 HR and sneaking his OBP near .320, which is pretty awesome value for round 3.

Rotowire likes your team enough to put it 4th right now in the draft software I'm using.

257

Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 00:57

Give me some of what R9 is smoking. While Arencibia is a lock for 20+ HR, I'd be shocked if his OBP was over .300. I think he's risky.....and with d'Arnoud lurking, he could lose PT.

258

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 03:13

Arencibia is the Mark Reynolds of the North.

259

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 11:01

Well I'm hoping they are closer to R9's opinion obviously. I read they fixed a flaw in his hitting mechanics and now have it back to where he was in the minors when he had a decent OBP. This is the big boys though so still might not get there.

What I really needed to do was trade down from my 2nd round pick as I looked hard at Arencibia there. In fact, of all the guys I looked at to fit MY team, Murphy was the only one who I thought might not make it back to me. I'm feeling like I am reaching a lot and that can be disastrous.

260

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 11:07

and the plucking continues, one list is totally gone...

261

Species
ID: 124591311
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 14:54

Love the Toral pick of Smoak in rd 3. He was on my radar but can't justify not taking a player for a starting position just yet. I'm sure it sucked for GO to let him go, but I understand his angle of wanting to contend, and you can only wait so long....

262

Species
ID: 124591311
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 16:19

Please do your best to add your players in ESPN. I only have access on my phone during the day. I can take the minute to add my own guy, but sorry I don't have the time to track and add it for everyone else during the day.

I can do much more at night to keep up......

263

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 16:55

I love you guys

264

Beastiemiked
ID: 253102623
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 20:59

Queue is gone. Got to wait til my son falls asleep before I can make my picks. Should be in 30-45 minutes.

265

darkside
ID: 592562019
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 21:02

Thanks again for picking up my guys (and sorry I forgot to get Liriano last night...I made my pick and went immediately to bed).

266

R9
ID: 99272420
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 21:28

Thanks for picking my guys up, when I'm at work I barely have time to make a pick when my phone beeps at me with an email. I always check when I get in, but I won't be able to pick them up too often during the day.

Hen, what are we looking at in particular #263? Definitely always fun to look back in time.

267

Bh
ID: 426111516
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:37

I was looking for details of the Strasburg deal, but wound up reading the entire thread. Stanton rules.

268

Beastiemiked
ID: 253102623
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 07:33

Ugh, I still got that bum Michael Taylor on my prospect roster. I always fall the guys that have the bodies of a power hitter but still can't hit.

269

Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 09:00

Dunn and Rios now... great... looks like my season will hinge on veteran White Sox hitters and whether they remember how to hit or not.

270

Toral
ID: 010321615
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 09:46

No guts, no glory.

271

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 16:47

Ran one set of projections through round 6. Don't read too much into this; I thought it would be fun to post (especially since I'm in first):

1. Blue Hen
2. Species
3. Tosh
4. Toral
5. BMD

15. R9
16. Judy
17. Great One
18. Goatlocker
19. Nerfherders
20. MJD

272

R9
ID: 99272420
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 18:16

Rotowire's software has Tosh and bmd more mid pack (with Darkside and a bunch of others all within 5 pts ahead of them) and Great One boosted up to mid-pack, but otherwise pretty much the same. Its flip-flopped between you and Species every other round though.

273

Great One
ID: 512531316
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 18:35

You guys have such fancy tools... I print out a cheatsheet from a random website and hope for the best :)

274

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 20:38

Yeah, I knew I sacrificed this year for last year... My draft stinks, as you guys keep raiding my Q 's. not only that you are taking players I had last year!

Sigh...

275

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 20:41

GO -- I make my own spread sheet and add my own data...

Where are these fancy tools you are using -- can you share?

276

Great One
ID: 512531316
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 20:46

Talk to those other guys, they put a lot more prep into things than I do.

277

R9
ID: 99272420
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 22:38

I just use Rotowire's draft software. Usually I make my own spreadsheet too, but this year I didn't have the time so I used their software. Takes a bit of time to input all the keepers, otherwise it makes things pretty easy.

278

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 22:46

I'm both solaced and dismayed by hen's 271.

Regarding spreadsheets, I usually put together massive spreadsheets, but they're generally developed during the G20 as it's usually the earliest of the drafts I'm in and this period of time is traditionally a very heavy "reality" time for me... my baseball prep suffers tremendously compared to the other sport seasons, it seems. I haven't been able to get out of that cycle for years... Despite having solid keepers, the players I surround them with never manage to get the job done. Something about this league is kryptonite for me. I use the "turning an ocean liner" analogy when describing this franchise...

279

R9
ID: 99272420
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 23:26

Fwiw AA, I have you 6th right now... ;)

280

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 00:43

I've found RotoWire's projections to be off, quite a bit, at times, so tweaking might be necessary. They tend to under-predict GP for guys coming back of injury, which means that some players who appear to be well-healed have their counting stats off.

[You can hand adjust the stats in their draft software]

281

Beastiemiked
ID: 253102623
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 06:41

Damn, had Wells at the top of my queue. For as deep as this draft is, I'm amazed how many picks get snaked from me right before I pick.

Thought I better draft Stewart. I've had him every year since drafting him as a prospect. I'd be on suicide watch if he blew up this year and I didn't have him.

282

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 07:21

Bme-- sorry to tell you but Stewart's wrist is sore again...

283

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 08:15

pd, a projection's just a projection, and I canceled my Rotowire sub several years ago, but thanks for the quick slap down! ;)

284

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 08:58

R9 and bh had me in 4th and now I'm prob middle of the pack. At least Stubbs is FINALLY paid off. Hey, it's ok to prove you're a Keeper now!

We are half way through the draft already. I love drafttime! Are there any players who still need to be added to ESPN?

285

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 09:18

Judy, his wrist is always sore. Dude was a beast in the minors and solid in 2009 for the rockies. If I had to guess I'd say I'll drop him sometime this year. However, the only way I'm going to contend is if I win the lotto with some of my young guys. My keepers this year kinda sucked so I'm going with youth over average veterans that you hope produce what they did last year.

286

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:24

OK all, Queues set for next two picks.
Out the door in a few for the golf course.
Hopefully it doesn't get back to me :)

287

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:27

Wanted to compliment the pace of this draft. There are a ton of managers averaging under 10 minutes per pick: Judy (zero!), Darkside, Tosh, R9, mjd, roman, pete, Guru, and BMD (plus me). Good work guys!

As a heads up, this weekend is going to be pretty bad for me. I'll do my best to leave queues where I can.

288

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 11:08

#283: Heh. I've kept mine because I like their updates. Some of them are actually pretty funny. But it seems most of the fantasy sites update their player profiles with RotoWire updates anyway.

[BTW, without adjustments, looks like you are projected for third in the RotoWire software right now, so what do I know?]

:)

289

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 11:14

The zero minutes is because I am never home. I leave a huge Q, but the guys I really want get picked off of it. I also have huge gaps betwen my picks, with no 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, or 12 rounders. I could have a great team of the ones in my Q that you guys plucked! My team is really gonna stink it up this year unless my keepers outdo themselves.

290

Species
ID: 124591311
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:58

Feel bad for Pete here in round 8.......he times out and 3 teams behind him have queues ready. It was a stampede to the podium a la what happened to the Minnesota Vikings in round 1 of the NFL draft one year......they let the clock expire and 2 teams rushed draft cards to the table before they could pick

Sorry bro.

291

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 19:48

Well, that worked good.
And still have players in the queue for my next pick.

292

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 21:04

I had it on auto computer -- who picked for me?? No problem it's who was at the top...

293

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 21:06

291 -- had 11 in Q, just to keep it off paper, only 5 are left; wanna bet they are gone by my next pick??? Which is 21 picks away.

294

Pete N.
ID: 31551019
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 21:19

I could've swore that I set my queue this morning with Benoit and Krod in it, but apparently not. I'm here and picking shortly.

295

Pete N.
ID: 31551019
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 21:35

Btw, I just saw post 287. Thanks for the jinx BH! :-)

296

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:56

R9's pick has been on the clock since 11:37 last night. I'm surprised he hasn't checked in. Oh well.

297

R9
ID: 99272420
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 16:05

Sorry guys, I thought I had left my queue on last night before crashing.

298

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 18:10

That's odd. I know for a fact that I set that last pick on auto with no delay.

299

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 20:20

Mine did the same thing a few picks back -- I am sure I set it for auto but when I went a back to add another name it was off.

Also thanks to whomever is adding my guys to my roster... My picks generally seem to be coming when I am not at a computer or iPhone.

300

Species
ID: 124591311
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 20:40

I would like to thank everyone for a very efficient draft. I am always surprised at how quickly it moves. Excellent job all around.

I would like to REALLY thank whoever has kept up assigning players to teams. I have been very remiss in doing so myself, so a huge thank you to Guru, Tosh or Ref for those efforts.

301

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 21:41

Ditto on the thank you for whoever has been assigning players.
Most of my picks have been from my queue or while I am at work and don't have access to espn.

302

Great One
ID: 450312813
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 22:23

Sorry bout timing out, was on the road and lost track of where it was.

303

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 09:19

Darn it -- madson's injured...

304

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 12:42

Will be out for a few hours.
Turned on Queue for 12.01 and 12.04.
Leaving 13.04 off for now.

305

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 12:55

Sorry for the hold up. Picking asap.

306

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 13:30

OK, now I'm going out.
Do have 12.04 and 13.04 both set.
See you in a couple of hours.

307

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 16:07

Darn you beastie -- thome was at my top...

308

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 20:15

Apologies for the these last two picks...

309

beastiemiked
ID: 38255111
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 21:43

I think I've had Thome every year since this league has existed so couldn't resist.

310

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 22:42

cRAp. -- madson out with tommy john...

311

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 22:51

Will be looking for a closer in exchange for 2013 picks...

312

darkside
ID: 37292422
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 23:09

Again...ten thousand thanks for picking up my guys at ESPN.

313

Toral
ID: 010321615
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 08:55

jaysherby 1) is up; 2) has a filled queue; and 3) missed the last pick.

Shouldn't a Draftime administrator (commissioner) pick for him?

314

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 09:24

I think I have all the guys picked up on ESPN. Make sure you check your rosters.

As for Slizz, by rule, if you miss a pick, you are skipped until you are caught up. When I noticed he was up again, I manually skipped him. Email sent to him and PD.

315

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 10:15

Am talking to slizz via IM. He is working and has worked 40 hours since Friday and is still working. He thought PD was picking for him. We are working on getting his picks made.

316

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 17:35

I want a player in the ESPN data base, but not Draftime.

I emailed Fred earlier today.

Use a placeholder?

317

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 17:40

I was able to add him myself.

Pick made.

318

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 17:48

Never heard of the guy -- saw his name and went WHAAAT?

319

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 19:32

R9 has missed tow picks. By rule, he gets an additional 3 hours to make up his missed pick or until the last draft pick is made, whichever is later. If he does not make a pick in time, the draft will be shut off and he will not be able to pick up anyone until we officially open the league up. That means everyone dumping prospects and we set up our rosters again, etc. I am emailing him.

320

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 19:36

Btw, this rule was implemented several years back after people were intentionally timing out late in the draft so they could look at news and then pick up someone instantly. Yes, we have had drafts end without everyone getting to use all their picks because of this--but it's only been a couple of times.

321

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 19:36

He has the last pick as well...

322

R9
ID: 99272420
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 20:25

Sorry guys, emergency at work. I could feel my phone buzzing at me but I couldn't really pull it out in the middle of a meeting. ;)

323

R9
ID: 99272420
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 20:34

And it wouldn't be a G20 draft without my drafting the last player. ;) I think I've had 14.20 3 years running now...

324

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 21:28

It's all good. He would have gotten 3 more hours to make all three of his picks once 14.20 came up.

I don't have time to pick up queues this minute for people but I might be able to do that later. Please make sure you have picked up all players so we can get the prospects off our teams and set up in Guru's fancy-schmancy program that alerts us when someone picks up a prospect. Then once we get all the parameters set, we will announce when free agents will be allowed to be picked up.

325

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 21:55

should we start to drop our prospects now?

326

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 09:06

For posterity's sake, I've saved the draft results here:
http://rotoguru1.com/base/G20/kpeek94-2012draft.html

327

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:04

For Posterity:

These managers have had their 2012 Supplemental Draft selections altered via trade:
7-22-10 mjd receives Ref's 5th rounder for his 9th (Matsuii/Stubbs)
3-11-11 R9 receives Species 2nd rounder for his 14th (2011 and PDraft swaps)
3-15-11 Ref receives GL's 3rd rounder for his 12th (F.Cordero)
5-31-11 R9 receives Species 3rd rounder for his 13th (Valverde)
6-1-11 R9 receives judy's 1st and 3rd rounders for his 8th and 9th rounders (C. Lee)
6-6-11 Guru receives Species 9th rounder for his 14th (Sabathia/Romero/Kennedy etc)
6-28-11 bmd receives judy's 5th rounder for her 12th (Farnsworth)
7-5-11 blue hen receives mjd's 4th for his 14th (Belt)
7-12-11 R9 receives Species 8th rounder for his 10th (R. Roberts)
7-22-11 mjd receives R9s 9th rounder from Judy for blue hen's 14th (Young/Kotchman)
8-1-11 Goatlocker receives Species' 7th rounder for his 10th (Berkman/Banuelos)
8-2-11 Great One receives judy's 7th for his 11th (Niemann)
8-3-11 mjd receives judy's 9th for his 13th (Vogelsong)
2-27-12 blue hen receives nerfherders' 3rd rounder for his 13th (Beckett)
3-1-12 Judy receives Great One's 2.05 and 4.05 for her 12.16 and 12.18 (B. Wilson)
3-1-12 GoatLocker receives Tosh's 3rd rounder for his 7th (Cabrera/Posey+Putz+Weeks)
3-6-12 mjd receives Toral's 5th rounder for his 12th (Street)
3-10-12 slizz receives Great One's 3rd rounder for his 11th (Rollins/Swisher)
3-15-12 bmd receives mjd's 5th rounder for his 8th (Masterson)
3-15-12 Great One receives Ref's 7th rounder for his 13th (Morales)
3-17-12 Species receives R9's 1.18, 2.20, 3.18, 3.20 and 8.20 for his 1.20, 12.20, 13.20, 14.09 and 14.20 (2013 picks, prospect pick)
3-18-12 Great One receives R9's 1.07 for his 10.05 (2013 picks)

328

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:04

League Email sent. Please drop your prospects.

329

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:33

New email sent. Please drop all of your non keepers and prospects. Will have to re-add all of your draft picks. ESPN wouldn't allow us to fix our rosters after we drafted. Prospects are a LOT of work! ;)

330

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:39

I am keeping Alonso up.
I will work on roster tonight -- no time now... Sorry.

331

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:42

Drop everyone? Or keep keepers?
Confused -- it'll be sorted out by the timle I do get back though...around 7.

332

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:45

We should do this:
1. Rerun keepers, as originally done.
2. Assign every team LM powers so that they can pick up all of their own drafted players.
3. If people don't have their players loaded in time for the Wednesday game, then they don't get those stats.

Forcing people to first drop players will be a timing nightmare.

333

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 13:52

15 minutes ago I thought I got stuck in a time spiral. now everything is clear.

- dropped all my non-keepers.
- kept 10 players (9 keepers + Jesus Montero)
- will call up Jesus Montero for Brandan Ryan
- picked up 6 others that were free agents (is this good or bad when 6 of your players were unowned at the end of last season?)

I am not waiting for these 8 players to report at my spring training facility: Kotchman, Raburn, Melky Cabrera, Guerra, Greg Holland, Vogelsong, Capuano, Dotel

334

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 14:35

332: Guru, that will also work. There were some mistakes made by people marking wrong keeper. Those will need to be fixed today.

I can set keepers to run at 3:00 ET and will send yet another email out.

People will need to drop prospects and load their own players via LM. Will send instructions for that too.

335

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 15:00

Sorry for the double email. I hit enter and it sent it before I was done with the first one. Must have fat fingered the tab button or something.

I think I can simply hit draft is over and it will auto run the Keepers so it doesn't matter. Re-checking roster setup now.

336

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 15:17

Keepers and Draft have re-run successfully and you may now enter your draft players to your roster via the LM tab as previously mentioned.

MAKE SURE you click on add as LM so it will bypass the waiver process. Also, once you are done, click back on your browser so you only need to click on your player instead of having to go through the entire process each time. Please do this right now if possible.

337

Great One
ID: 340592712
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 15:31

Hit BACK after adding the player and you'll save yourself many clicks.

338

Nerfherders
ID: 161121811
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 15:50

Mine is done. I added Species and BH's keepers to my team. Good luck everyone!

339

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 16:08

my team is ready.

as far as I know I called up Jesus Montero for the first and probably the last time.

340

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 16:12

YR: He is still prospect-eligible so I will mark him as called up. What drafted player did you cut to get him on your team?

341

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 16:54

I dropped my last pick Brendan Ryan.

342

Species
ID: 59252616
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 17:06

Found a break in my long weekend madness to add my guys.

What a pain. Thanks Ref for stepping in and spearheading the cleanup.

343

R9
ID: 99272420
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 18:41

Mine is done. I think we had the same issue last year iirc. ;)

Thanks Ref.

344

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 19:56

Can I drop Madson to add prospect Yonder Alonso?

I need to do that to add Blanton to my roster...

My roster is set except for that question.

345

Pete N.
ID: 202482619
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 20:48

I show all free agents on waivers?

346

darkside
ID: 582462619
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 20:51

My team is done. Thanks very much, everyone, for a great draft. Good luck!

347

Pete N.
ID: 202482619
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 20:56

Disregard post 345. Players have been added.

348

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 21:08

344: Judy, Alonso has been called up for the 2nd time.

I'm hoping to make some time tonight to help out managers who need it.

349

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 21:46

GL has called up Darvish for first time. Dropped Morton.

350

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 21:50

OK all my pickups are done.
I did call up Yu Darvish for the first time and have dropped Charlie Morton.

351

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 22:09

OK all done.

Called up Yonder Alonso (2 and most likely final time) and dropped Ryan Madson.

352

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 23:50

My team is set.

Thanks to the 'mishes for getting this done. Looking forward to the season!

353

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:12

Am just popping in for a minute on a break. Several teams still need to be done. Players are going to start coming off waivers and we need to get this done. I am going to look and see who isn't done and try to add at least one team's guys for them right now.

354

Great One
ID: 340592712
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:16

Emailed you Ref. I can do one.

355

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:34

OK, I think all 20 teams are done now. Please make sure your team is right! IF anyone sees anything please speak up. Othwerwise, feel fre to put in a waiver claim and pick up FAs when they come off waivers. Make sure you don't pick up someone else's prospect!!!

356

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:43

Transaction counters all set to 0.

357

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:45

Current Prospect List in case of accidental erasure at some point:

Prospects
(Draft Rounds 1-3, '04; 4-5, '05; 6-8, '06; 9-11, '07; 12-14, '08; 15-17, '09; 18-20, '10; 21-23, '11)
MGR: #, Name,Pos,Team,(# Call-ups), *not in db
Allhair: 15.06 Desmond Jennings,OF,TB(1); 18.11 Grant Green,SS,OAK; 21.02 Jameson Taillon,PIT,P
bmd: 15.14 Michael Taylor,OF,OAK; 21.17 CJ Cron,1B,LAA; 22.07 Tim Wheeler,OF,COL
Blue Hen: 21.18 Dellin Betances,P,NYY; 22.08 Arodys Vizcaino,P,ATL
Darkside: 21.14 Tom Milone,P,OAK; 22.05 Alex White,P,COL
GoatLocker: 12.08 Yu Darvish,P,TEX(1); 22.03 Zach Lee,P,LAD
Great One: 17.03 Casey Kelly,P,BOS; 19.08 Shelby Miller,SP,StL; 21.05 Gerrit Cole,P,PIT
Guru: 18.10 Christian Colon, SS, KC; 19.05 Lonnie Chisenhall,3B,CLE; 21.11 Devin Mesoraco,C,CIN
Jaydog: 15.09 Jarrod Parker,P,OAK; 18.18 Aaron Hicks,OF,MIN; 21.13 Miguel Sano,SS,MIN
Judy: 12.07 Yonder Alonso,1B,SD(2); 18.08 Michael Choice,OF,OAK*
mjd: 12.18 Tim Beckham,SS,TB; 18.07 Zack Cox,3B,STL ; 21.04 Trayvon Robinson,OF,SEA
Nerfherders: 21.09 Jacob Turner,P,DET; 22.04 Nolan Arenado,3B,COL
Peter N: 15.16 Josh Vitters,3B,CHC; 17.02; 18.04 Martin Perez,P,TEX; 21.15 Jonathan Singleton,OF,HOU
Ref: 15.01 Stephen Strasburg,P,WAS(2); 21.01 Anthony Rendon,3B,WAS; 22.01 Trevor Bauer,P,AZ
R9: 18.02 Mike Trout,OF,LAA; 21.08 Carlos Martinez,P,STL; 21.19 Nick Franklin,SS,SEA; 21.20 Hak-Ju Lee,SS,TB; 22.09 Anthony Gose,OF,TOR; 23.01 Dylan Bundy,P,BAL
SlackYokel: 18.01 Bryce Harper,OF,Was; 19.04 Drew Pomeranz,SP,COL(1); 21.03 Jason Kipnis,2B,CLE(1)
Slizz: 16.03 Devaris "Dee" Gordon,SS,LAD; 21.06 Bubba Starling,OF,KC; 22.02 Tyler Skaggs,P,AZ
Species:
Toral: 18.05 William Myers,C,KC; 19.01 Brett Lawrie,2B,TOR(1); 21.07 Jurickson Profar,SS,TEX; 21.12 Jake Odorizzi,P,KC
Tosh: 18.06 Manny Machado,SS,Bal; 21.16 Danny Hultzen,P,SEA; 22.06 Mike Montgomery,P,KC
youngroman: 15.08 Jesus Montero,C,SEA(1); 18.09 Julio Teheran,P,ATL; 21.10 Brett Jackson,OF,CHC

358

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 11:49

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