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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Aug 14, 2007, 15:18
The clock will start on Thursday morning, but I will activate the draft on Wednesday. The clock will be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends.
People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.
We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette.
If you know you will be away when your next pick is likely to be due, you can can set up a queue in kafenatid and designate one of more managers to pick on your behalf. Your queue will not be visible until it is your turn to pick. By default, I am able to submit picks for anyone, but you should designate me so that I receive the email alert when it is your turn.
I will clear all rosters at the fanball site shortly, and ask that each of you pick up your player as soon as you draft him. I will also attempt to make pickups for teams using a designated picker, so that we can maintain as complete a list of free agents as possible.
When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the Fanball software will force you to fill each of the 14 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly.
Rationales will be expected for each pick, but deleayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.
Any picks made prior to Thurssday morning are discretionary, and not timed. There is no need to get an early start - but feel free to do so, if you are so inclined. The real purpose of activating the draft early is to allow people to set up designated pickers and queues, and to (re-)familiarize themselves with the "On the Clock" software at kafenatid.net.
A final caveat: Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.
Another alert: If you have set up a queue and have made it "available", I (or any of your designated pickers) will make the pick on your behalf - unless you have posted specific instructions to the contrary in this thread. If you do not want your queue used, make sure it is marked "unavailable".
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| | | 1 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 12:25
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I showed up and got my first pick in.
I've set Guru, and YoungRoman as my designated pickers...
FYI - If I happen to get a queue ready for my 2.14/3.01 picks, please keep in mind, that they're MAY be a deal in the works between myself and Legge. We'll wait till it's closer to the 3.01 to announce a deal or not, but just in case, do not use 2 players from my queue. Use 1 only (For 2.14). Thx.
For managers looking to talk during the draft:
AIM: IAMCANADIAN20040
MSN: ben_sigmawave@hotmail.com
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| | | 2 | holt
ID: 41512278
Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 16:25
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anyone interested in trading up to #3 this round? I'm interested in swapping 1st/2nd rd picks with someone.
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| | | 3 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 16:40
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Holt - email sent.
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| | | 4 | holt
ID: 41512278
Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 17:18
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thanks leggestand.
still taking offers.
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| | | 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 15, 2007, 21:18
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Everyone can follow the draft with this link:
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?163
Sequential picks appear at the top, and a draft grid (by team and position) is at the bottom.
That same link should work for the RIFC qualifying leagues as well, by substituting the appropriate league ID at the end of the URL
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| | | 6 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 13:51
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Welcome back to the team McGahee. I see four first round tiers this year, picks 1-2, picks 3-7, picks 8-11, and picks 12-14. I was hoping one of the 8-11's would fall to me, and that's why I took the 12 pick. It didn't happen, and now I wish I would of taken the 14 pick instead of flipping a card for who my #1 back would be.
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| | | 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 14:13
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Please remember to pick up your drafted players at the fanball site. So far, only 4 have been picked up.
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| | | 8 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 17:24
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All,
I'm heading home in the next half hour to hour.
Should be home within 2 hours from now.
Not sure what direction I am going, so am not turning my queue on.
Should be checking again before too long.
Cliff
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| | | 9 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 18:16
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I'm interested in swapping my 2nd and 3rd round picks with somebody. Give me a shout if you are interested.
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| | | 10 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 19:16
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I'm home all and will be checking every so often.
Cliff
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| | | 11 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Thu, Aug 16, 2007, 20:31
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Same here... so if it happens to get to the wrap before 11PM ET... then I should be able to get in my pics relatively quickly.
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| | | 12 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 06:45
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I have a queue set for round 3. I'm not sure how I want to go for round 4. I will be back from work to make my own pick for round 4 and post any rationales that are needed.
Thanks
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| | | 13 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 06:47
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I take it all back. As I sat here typing, Smith32 made his pick. I will check back in for round 4 this afternoon.
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| | | 14 | holt
ID: 41512278
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 07:46
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I won't be available til around 3 p.m. CST, but my next pick is like 22 picks away. just letting you know what time to expect me if it does happen to move at lightning speed.
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| | | 15 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 09:03
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I left a queue for GoatLocker for my round #3 pick. For round #4, he has my cell number. The queue should only be used for round #3.
(GL - Email sent a few minutes ago)
If anyone executes a trade while I'm unavailable (until about 9pm tonight), it would be best if you could make picks on behalf of your trade partner, and then I'll swap the players (or picks) when I return tonight. In case of any "emergency", use the feedback link at the bottom of the kafenatid page, and Fred (KKB) may be able to help.
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| | | 16 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 09:09
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Got it Dave.
Have a safe trip.
Cliff
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| | | 17 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 09:11
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I am also going to need some assistance picking this weekend, as I am out of town from 6 am tomorrow morning until about 1 pm on Sunday.
The best option is to email me (blackberry) the list of players chosen up to my pick (it may be best to email me when its 2-3 picks away from me in case I get sidetracked). I'll email back who I want. I assume I'll make Guru a designated picker, but I am up for adding a couple others. Any takers for this weekend?
I'll probably be sending you my cell number as well if I seem to be disregarding email (it's a weekend of debauchery).
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| | | 18 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 09:47
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I'm helping with a move starting today and will be intermittent on access through Sunday. My cell is posted at the Fanball forum - please call me if I have not picked within an hour.
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| | | 19 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 10:48
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Am headed for work.
Will touch base when I get to the office.
Cliff
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| | | 20 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:13
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I should be arround this weekend... IF anyone wants to make me a designated picker, I'll do my best.
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| | | 21 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:15
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IAC, I will probably add you.
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| | | 22 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:47
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Okay all.
I'm at work and got a chance to peek.
Will be in and out checking the rest of the day.
Cliff
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| | | 23 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 12:49
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legge,
I'm probably going to be available the weekend if you need help.
Won't be sitting on the computer all weekend, but should be around.
Cliff
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| | | 24 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:43
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Queue set up for the next round only. Added GL, IAC, and Guru as DP's.
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| | | 25 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 14:54
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I'm sure this is a stupid question, but how do I insert my rationale in my "placeholder". I don't want to f*#$ the thread up.
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| | | 26 | Trip
Leader
ID: 13961611
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 15:18
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Greybear, post your rationale in this thread (in the proper formatting) and a moderator can move it into the Rationales thread.
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| | | 27 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 16:08
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GreyBear,
What Trip said.
The point with the PlaceHolder Post is to give the moderator a slot to put the Rationale in.
Only way to keep everything in order.
Cliff
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| | | 29 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 16:46
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Will be leaving in the next 10-15 minutes for a couple of hours.
Will check for legge and Guru as soon as I get back.
Will check again just before I leave just in case Yokel picked.
Cliff
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| | | 30 | Greybear
ID: 353551013
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 19:49
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Hi,
I set up a two player queue on Kafenatid and designated I_A_C and Goatlocker as designated pickers. Goatlocker, you said you were checking back in anyway, so I hope you don't mind too much.
Thanks in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
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| | | 31 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 21:12
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I just arrived home. Need to get situated, but should be able to pick within the next half hour.
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| | | 32 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 21:23
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OK all,
I'm back home.
See Dave is around and will pick shortly.
Cliff
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| | | 33 | leggestand
ID: 217571412
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:30
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Okay, as I said in post 17, I am going out of town all day tomorrow. I am going to post my cell phone # on the fanball site. Email also works and I should hopefully get back to whoever emails me shortly.
Guru, IAC, and Goatlocker are all designated pickers. I am also going to add youngroman since he is right before me and call right after he picks (except he may be out of the country if I remember right?).
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| | | 35 | leggestand
ID: 217571412
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:31
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Oh, and to add; I am not leaving a queue. There is too many picks before my next selection.
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| | | 36 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:35
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I won't be around anymore tonight, but I'll check in tomorrow morning around 6:30am ET. Queue set for Rd 4 only.
I'll be away all day tomorrow (7am - 11pm), so I'll probably need a DP for my 5.04 pick. If anyone is willing, please let me know. Thanks.
Smith32
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| | | 38 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 22:40
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Hey GoatLocker... I sent you a trade proposal... lemme know what you think?
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| | | 39 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 23:39
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Anyone looking to move down a couple picks in this round? I've got 4.14, and would like to move up to 4.10/4.11...
Lemme know if anyone is interested.
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| | | 40 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 23:43
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IAC,
Just answered your email.
Didn't see it until after I had picked.
Sorry.
Cliff
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| | | 41 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Fri, Aug 17, 2007, 23:55
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IAC, I have just emailed you about a trade.
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| | | 42 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:00
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replied
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| | | 43 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:17
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I accepted a trade with IAC, my 4.10 & 5.05 for his 4.14 & 5.01.
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| | | 44 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:21
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Confirmed...
To Bags:
4.14 & 5.01
To IAC:
4.10 & 5.05
With 4.10 I'll be selecting: Adrian Peterson, RB, MIN
We'll get Guru to sort out the pic swap L8R...
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| | | 45 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 00:22
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I made the pick 4.10 for IAC.
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| | | 46 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 04:12
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boooourns to IAC for taking AP and booooooourns to Bags for making it possible.
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| | | 47 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 07:07
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5 player queue set for Rd 5 only. Will check back in around 11pm tonight.
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| | | 48 | Bags
ID: 2500120
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 07:58
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I sent an email to IAC with my picks for rounds 4 and 5.
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| | | 49 | The Beezer
ID: 221092219
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 08:27
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I'll be busy moving the majority of the day - please call my cell if my pick comes up before 5pm.
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| | | 50 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 08:35
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I sent my pick to Bags. As a preview for those managers who are gettting their picks ready:
5.05 Baltimore Ravens, DEF, BAL
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| | | 53 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 09:19
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Trade processed
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| | | 54 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 11:45
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GoatLocker - check your email before making your pick
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| | | 56 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 12:32
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Guess I need to get use to reading emails before I make my picks when I've been away.
Sorry about the delay, I do sleep in on Sat and Sun.
Guess I should have left a queue last nite.
Too much scotch.
Cliff
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| | | 60 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:28
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Well, I'm a DP for GreyBear, but the queue is empty.
I'll be checking off and on.
Back in from the Farmer's Market.
Cliff
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| | | 61 | Greybear
ID: 447421813
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 14:58
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Hi GoatLocker, thanks for thinking about me, but I was silently creeping around the site as it were.
I only have internet at work and I do plan on heading home soon, so I have left IAC with instructions to give me a call if the draft gets back to me by tonight. As such, I had to make "free form" available, so in an abundance of caution, I un-DPed anyone else (except for Guru which always has access).
So no need for any of you to worry, I will not hold things up, although I may be drunk by then and giving IAC a hard time on the phone...
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| | | 62 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 16:12
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because leggestand is out of town (post 17 + 33) and his queue is empty, can someone contact him? it may be not the most effective way to do this from Austria. Thanks.
I will be available until 7pm ET. if I am not up until then I'll activate my queue for 6.04
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| | | 64 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 22:23
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dunno who eserel is but I'm glad to see those picks will time out before the clock stops tonight.
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| | | 65 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 22:41
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SR I believe... not sure if Slackjawed will be arround right away though. :(
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| | | 66 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:00
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Just spoke to Legge. He doesn't have free form setup in Kafenatid, but said to select for him:
6.03 Chris Chambers, WR, MIA
Not sure if Guru can manage that?
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| | | 67 | s R
ID: 861898
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:09
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sorry for the delay...
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| | | 68 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 18, 2007, 23:37
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Just spoke to GreyBear... brought her up to speed on who's been taken. She'll either get back to me tonight or early tomorrow morning.
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| | | 70 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 08:54
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I just filled in the rosters at Fanball for those teams who were behind in picking up players.
Greybear and Nerfherders - your teams were empty. Please remember to add your drafted players to your fanball roster as you pick them. This keeps the player listings at fanball up to date - which gets more important and the draft progresses.
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| | | 71 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 09:03
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Just spoke to Greybear again. She's on her way to make her pick. It should be done within the hour.
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| | | 72 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 09:22
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Sorry for the wait. I decided not to pick last night as it was getting pretty late and I did not want to make a decision with my mind in a fog.
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| | | 73 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 09:42
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I'm leaving a queue in case I'm not around. setting smith32 as DP.
I DEFINITELY DO NOT want my 6th and 7th rd picks to be the same position. whatever I end up with in rd 6, take THE OTHER position for rd 7.
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| | | 75 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 11:38
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Holt,
When you get a chance, touch base with the Roto Guru Keeper 14 thread.
Motley Crue needs to hear from you.
Cliff
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| | | 76 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 11:57
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I'm going out for a few hours. Should be back around 3pm ET. I'm not leaving a queue because I need to see these next few picks to decide which direction I want to go.
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| | | 77 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 13:16
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Hi all,
I'm leaving work and going home for the day. At this rate, I don't think I'll be up again until tomorrow. I_A_C, if you are around, can you call me should the draft progress fast and furiously theis afternoon/evening. I'll make a decision then as to whether I will wait 'till the morning (if it's past 11:00 p.m.), if I draft by telephone, or if I come back into work and do it myself.
Best,
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| | | 78 | Doug
ID: 113132214
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 13:57
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Slackjawed... if you check in on this thread today, just a heads up that I sent you a trade offer on the G24 league... just making sure I get your attention since today is the deadline for keepers. :)
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| | | 79 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 14:33
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Thanks for the heads up, Doug. I'll check it after a while. Just making sure this draft hadn't made it back to me.
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| | | 80 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 15:33
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holt - pick made. I won't pick a QB for you in Rd 7.
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| | | 81 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 16:37
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thanks smith. i'm back now so I'll enter my pick for rd 7.
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| | | 89 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 21:06
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We're on a very acceptable pace so far. Projected finish is currently around midnight on 8/31.
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| | | 93 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sun, Aug 19, 2007, 23:14
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from leggestand's rationale:
Best 4th Round Value: Randy Moss
Biggest 4th Round Reach: Jamal Lewis
why do you evaluate Lewis at 4.12 to be the biggest reach? I would have chosen Barber, V.Young. or maybe even Moss. I thought Lewis fell farther than he should have. Granted, no one will confuse him with Tomlinson, but I can't see how a guaranteed starting non-committee RB can be a reach at the end of the 4th rd. fwiw, lewis went 3.06 in another rifc league, and most cheats I've seen have him ranked in the 50-60 overall range, which is right where I drafted him.
but hey, we all evaluate players differently. very differently.
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| | | 96 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 06:11
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FYI Guyz - It's 20 picks till my next pick, so I'm not leaving a queue, but I should be back by 4PM ET. I doubt the draft will somehow have a mad rush in the meantime... but just in case, thought I'd let you all know.
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| | | 97 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 06:17
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RE 93 Holt:
If he's anything like me... I'm sure he's just insinuating that on HIS cheatsheets it was the least attractive pick of the round.
FYI - There was a couple rounds that went by, where I found almost all picks I could agree with, but of them, I still picked the one I least liked.
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| | | 98 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:22
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My short list got obliterated overnight, so I'm back to the drawing board. Will try to make my pick in the next 30 minutes.
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| | | 99 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 09:43
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Holt - IAC hit on on the head about my "reach" picks. I don't go by the books or other leagues, it's just my simple, biased opinion. The Browns had a whopping total of 7 rushing TD's last year, 3 of which were by a QB. Jamal, on a good team last year, only had 9 TD's. I don't think the Browns are going to be that much better than last year, and any time you have to play the Ravens and Steelers twice, I can just see it being a long season for him.
When I put my reaches, don't look at it as a "bash," it's just my opinion. I have been doing it for three years now in the RIFC.
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| | | 101 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:29
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I can see (via special Commisioner X-ray powers) that there is at least one name in youngroman's queue, but he has not made it available, so I can't make any pick for him. (I don't know what the name is - only that there is at least one name there.) Hopefully, he didn't intend to make it available and then fail to follow through. He often makes use of queues to keep things moving along.
I'll be out from about 4pm-8:30pm today, and was hoping that we'd get back to my 8th rounder before I go. But that's looking less likely now. If I can, I'll try to set up a queue in advance. Who volunteers to be my DP during that timeframe?
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| | | 102 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:35
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sorry, got stuck at work. need to check what was going on in the last few picks. give me 15 minutes.
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| | | 103 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 13:38
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I can take it, Guru...I am around all day.
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| | | 104 | holt
ID: 41512278
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 14:02
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I didn't take it as a bash. I just thought it was a decent pick at the end of the 4th and had to defend my player. :D
well, on second thought, considering that marion barber went at 4.02, maybe I did take it as a bash.
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| | | 105 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 14:25
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Haha, good point. I guess that shows where my rankings stem from, as the reason I don't like Jamal that much is my poor TD projection for him, while I still think Barber is good for 10 TD's.
Jamal's not a bad pick, and actually the 4th round didn't have many reaches as it pretty much ran the QB gamut in order. Really, I just have been burned by Jamal a couple times, and going to worse team scares me. But, hey, maybe he'll go for 1200 and 10 TD's, then it's the steal of the 4th round.
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| | | 109 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 20:04
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With 14 picks left before mine, I am going home without feeling any guilt or anxiety. I stayed to deal with picks in another league, but have devised a plan which will free me from my office.
Good night to all.
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| | | 111 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:13
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I'm thinking through my options. Be ready. I wouldn't be horribly opposed to trading down if someone sends me an offer in the next 15 minutes or so.
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| | | 112 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:20
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I'm here to do my picks right after... so stick arround for after the turn.
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| | | 113 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 21:50
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Should we start a new Rationales thread?
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| | | 114 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Mon, Aug 20, 2007, 22:13
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sorry... done.
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| | | 118 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 06:23
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As was the case yesterday, and will continue to be the case during the week, I'll be back at 4PM to make my pick. Too many picks till my turn comes arround for a queue.
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| | | 119 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:04
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I was 100% sure you were taking Devery there, Guru.
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| | | 120 | Smith32
ID: 2103514
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:06
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I will be out until 4 or 5 ET today. A few too many picks left for a queue. I'll pick when I get back.
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| | | 121 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:55
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[119] I actually didn't decide until the last minute on Devery - although I'd had him on my radar for awhile.
I take it from your comment that he was on your radar as well?
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| | | 122 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 09:58
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He was, but I already have him in two leagues this year, so, for diversification purposes, I probably was not going to take him.
I just remembered you had him last year for a bit and having a couple big games. I assumed he left a good taste in your mouth, and since he was one of the higher ranking WR's still out there, and you needed one, I was sure he'd be your guy.
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| | | 124 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:24
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I must say that I was surprised when I got to work this morning and was greeted by a message from Kafenated, cheerfully declaring: "You are on the Clock!".
You guys went at it all night: good show! The sad/frustrating thing is that at 2:22 a.m. (which is 3:22 my time), I was still up, watching the last of my Rome - Season II episodes (I highly recommend it). Moral of the story: get internet at home.
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| | | 125 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 10:48
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[122] You essentially just wrote my rationale!
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| | | 127 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:15
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kafenatid.net appear to be down. At least, I can't access it. Hopefully it's a short-lived issue.
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| | | 128 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:16
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I can't get in either.
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| | | 129 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:18
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... and it was
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| | | 130 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:19
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I also can't pick up players at Fanball...it used to say "Sign Now" and now it says "Claim Request," and it locks out claim requests.
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| | | 131 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:33
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Go to "Add/drop players" under the transactions tab. You should be able to do it there.
I don't know why the "Claim now" link appears in the player list. Probably a glitch.
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| | | 132 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 11:37
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I just turned off the "Claims" rules (which aren't applicable for now anyway), and the "sign now" link has reappeared.
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| | | 134 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 15:52
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FYI to GreyBear... watch the mentioning of "undrafted" in rationals please. :)
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| | | 135 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:09
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Oh flock... again!
I_A_C: I've already been chastized about this (by you know who) and thought I had worked it out of my system: I guess not. I went and fixed it, for what its worth.
My apologies to all.
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| | | 136 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:44
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From Goatlocker: I like Peterson as an integral part of the JAX Defense and expect him to have the same # of tackles if not even more than last year.
I got to bust your chops here, GL...Peterson only had 22 tackles last year due to injury ;)
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| | | 137 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:52
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Thanks legge, should have read the year before last, duh.
What I get for not looking it up before I typed my rationale.
And nice to know you care ;)
Cliff
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| | | 138 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:55
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Haha. I just thought it was funny when I read it. I was like, "wait a minute. Wasn't he hurt for most of last season? I hope he at least equals that tackle total!"
Honestly, though, he is a solid pick. I know I wanted him.
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| | | 139 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 16:58
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A couple guys have recently gone that I was trying to get. I took Chris Hope in Round 9 thinking Troy Williamson would fall to me (he didn't). Then I almost took Kerry Rhodes in round 10, but took Curtis instead thinking Rhodes may make it back to me (he didn't).
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| | | 140 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Tue, Aug 21, 2007, 17:15
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We are on a blistering pace today...good work guys (and gal).
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| | | 151 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 07:40
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Just a heads up, Greybear is out of town today at a Continuing Legal Education seminar. That said, she has provided me with specific instructions for the 11th round and some general ideas for the 12th. I will do my best to keep the draft moving along at its good pace.
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| | | 152 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 07:43
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I've picked for her in the 11th round, as per her instructions.
I'm not certain where she is with her rationales; hoepfully the time away today does not put her to far behind.
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| | | 153 | youngroman
ID: 2934823
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 11:50
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since the pace of the draft is unexpected fast I am currently not prepared who to pick next. I'm now heading home, get some food and will be back to make my pick in 1.5 hours
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| | | 156 | holt
ID: 41512278
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 13:44
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i'll be away from a comp for about 4 hrs. i don't have a queue to leave right now.
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| | | 158 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:19
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Just got back to my desk from a meeting.
Give me a few minutes to get caught up and I'll pick.
Cliff
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| | | 159 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 14:38
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Pick made.
Sorry for the delay.
I'm buried here right now, so will get Rationales caught up tonite when I get home if I don't have a chance to do them sooner.
Cliff
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| | | 160 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:25
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FWIW, I was hoping to nab Ginn as my WR4, although probably not until at least round 13-14. Was really disappointed to see leggestand take him in round 12.
A speculative pick, to be sure, but one with some nice potential upside, and his return yardage should cushion the downside.
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| | | 161 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 15:49
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That's nice to hear. I had been looking at him for a while and trying to figure out when was the best time to draft him. I wasn't sure if he would make it back to me at 13, so, I took him. But, like you said, the potential upside along with return yardage make me think he could work his way into my starting WR's. The problem is, I now have two Dolphin WR's...they certainly aren't the Colts.
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| | | 164 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:08
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Just to let you know, I'm heading home for the night and will check in at 8:00 in the morning as I seem to always get on the clock around 1 or 2 a.m.
Have a good one,
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| | | 165 | Bags @ work
ID: 357422217
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 18:44
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Just made my pick. Very busy day at work. Sorry for the delay.
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| | | 167 | leggestand
ID: 87382018
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:03
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Great "Rant"ionale Smith.
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| | | 170 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 22, 2007, 22:24
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Smith32 wins the Rationale thread - everyone else is just fighting for table scraps.
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| | | 172 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:56
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I'm steping out for 3 hours. With six picks before I come up, hopefully it'll be time to pick when I'm back.
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| | | 173 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 20:47
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Glad you guys liked the rant. Unfortunately I do not have quite the same passionate distaste for Gibril Wilson and Brandon Marshall as I do for Eli, so today's rationales will be more subdued.
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| | | 175 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:27
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Hey, I finally got a pick on legge's list! About time I got some attention one way or the other, eh?
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| | | 176 | holt
ID: 41512278
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 08:53
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IAC - if Peterson is available for trade then take a look at my roster and tell me the price.
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| | | 177 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 09:27
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Hey Holt
I don't think we could work out a deal right now. IF I were to deal Peterson, I'd probably need another RB included in that deal, one that I'd feel comfortable with as a starter. Jamal is the closest thing you have, and he'd conflict with LT + Foster's bye week.
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| | | 179 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 15:03
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Disappointing to see such a lag in rationales. I now get to post 7 placeholders.
Please try to post in turn. Post a placeholder if you are ready. When the backlog gets so daunting, I end up doing the dirty work.
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| | | 183 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 18:13
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I'll check back in around 10:30 - 11:00pm. I don't expect it to get back to me but youneverknow.
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| | | 185 | holt
ID: 41512278
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 20:07
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very sorry - will try to catch up my rationales tonight. wanted to take the time to write them decently instead of just "i wanted LB he's good and tackles people".
iac - just curious if you'd take larry fitzgerald for peterson.
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| | | 186 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 20:36
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Sorry Holt, but as much as I liked taking Fred Taylor, and DeShaun Foster, I drafted them exclusively as backups, and couldn't see myself relying on either of their muddled RBBCs for steady enough production. Couldn't do Fitz for ADP straight up.
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| | | 187 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 00:30
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"I wanted LB he's good and tackles people."
If you're not going to use that, you won't mind if I use it for my next one, eh?
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| | | 189 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 11:12
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I came in to set a short queue. You are all designated to pick for me; This way, I should not hold up the draft at all. I_A_C has my number and can call me at home if I come up for selection again later tonight.
I know I am behind in my rationales. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
Best,
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| | | 190 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 11:56
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Sounds like you do not want the queue to be automatically used for round 18 then?
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| | | 191 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 14:22
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Hey Guru, I would think not... if we hit the 18th pic today, then I'll call her again for confirmation on what she wants to do. Just waiting for Nerf's pic...
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| | | 194 | s R
ID: 861898
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:27
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I have a queue for Rds 17-18, setting Slackjawed Yokel as DP.
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| | | 195 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 18:47
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Guru, Re: 190, yes, you are right. In any event, Legge fixed the problem by picking the no. 2 in my 2 player queue... nice pick!
I_A_C can call me and see what I want to do if it gets beck to me tonight (I came back in to check on something else and could not help but look at the draft and how things are going). I am bringing all of my materials home so I should be able to "telepick" in short order.
Good night to all.
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| | | 207 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:06
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I'll be away until this evening. I left a queue which can be used for rounds 19-20. DPs are GL, leggestand, and youngroman.
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| | | 208 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:08
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I'll be around all day, just in and out as I work on getting the Motor Home washed and packed.
Cliff
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| | | 214 | leggestand
ID: 87382018
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:41
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I am going out for 3 hours or so. I have left a queue, but please use it for Round 19 only. I should be able to make pick 20 when I get back.
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| | | 221 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:44
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DRAFT PROBLEM!!!
Nerf picked someone at the wrong position:
When you do a search for Philips at Fanball:
LB Shaun Phillips, sd Free Agent
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| | | 222 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 15:16
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Will be going home soon. If I_A_C monitors the draft tonight and sees that I come up again, he can call and I can pick from there.
Too many picks to leave a queue as I am not sure which hole I want to plug next, depending on what you fine folks are going to do.
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| | | 223 | Nerfherders
ID: 64532914
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 18:03
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Phillips was listed as DL on the list that I have but I'll take him at LB, no problem.
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| | | 228 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 21:06
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[223] Phillips was listed at DL before the draft, but was changed this past week, and prominently announced at the Fanball site before he was drafted here. So, he must be used at LB.
As an aside, Nerf, if you had been picking up your own drafted players at Fanball as we've progressed (as instructed), you'd no doubt have seen the announcement.
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| | | 229 | holt
ID: 41512278
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 22:20
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we should be able to use queues more liberally at this point. I know we're ahead of the pace but I get really frustrated seeing the draft bog down in the same places every round. I mean it's rd 20 - punch some names in your queue and let it ride. there's probably 10 of us checking the draft constantly, and for all we know the draft is done for the night.
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| | | 233 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 08:27
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Dear Holt, re: post 229, if that is a response to my post 222, I am sorry to have offended you. However, I would not call a 1:30 hour delay a "bog down". Trust me, I want to get the draft done as soon as possible as well, but I still want to put some care into who I pick, even though it is the late rounds.
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| | | 234 | holt
ID: 41512278
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 09:06
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it wasn't directed at you greybear.
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| | | 235 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 10:41
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I've got to step out for a little while. You are all still designated as my pickers, so go ahead and select the first guy in the queue. If I make it back before my pick, I'll make the queue unavailable. Shoud I get struck by lightning and not get back before my second pick and players are still in my queue, make sure that you do not pick a player at the same position in the 22nd round as the one selected in the 21st round. As I said, it's highly unlikely that any of this will happen, but I'm being abundantly cautious.
Best,
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| | | 237 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:19
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I'll be out from 4-9. I set up a queue, with YR, legge, and GL as DPs.
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| | | 238 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:30
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Sorry for the hold up on the draft and my draft rationales. I was in Chicago/Madison for the Rage concert and visiting friends.
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| | | 246 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 17:51
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Keith Ellison!?!?!? Are you serios Yokels! A guy at the top of my queue cannot go one pick before me this late in the draft!.
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| | | 248 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 18:42
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Hi all,
I may not be on for much longer as I feel the need to get the heck out of my office. I left a small queue and I do hope that at least one of these selections get back to me.
In any event, I will likely be back in the morning in time to make my own selection. Again, I reiterate that should anything happen where I am unavailable for my last two picks, do not pick the same position twice.
Thanks.
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| | | 250 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 19:56
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Are we allowed to pick players that aren't in the Kafenatid database? If so, how?
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| | | 251 | holt
ID: 587112719
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:12
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might be a while before you get an answer.
see post #237
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| | | 252 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:36
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See #274 in this thread from last year:
2006 RIFC Draft Discussion
For the sake of keeping things moving, I'd say post the name of whoever you want on here, draft Kenny Irons at kafenatid, and then pick up your real guy at Fanball.
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| | | 254 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:48
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You can request a player listing at kafenatid.net. However, rather than waiting for that to be completed, draft a player who is unlikely to be viable, post the intended name here, and the draft moves on. Once the target player is made available at kafenatid, I can make the switch.
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| | | 255 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:51
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Ok.
22.08 Jason Snelling, RB, ATL
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| | | 259 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 00:07
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leggestand (246) actually, it was one pick after you , not before you... Yeah I struggled with that pick, and didn't have a great reason to pick Ellison - must've been some psychic capture of your queue...
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| | | 261 | Greybear
ID: 43710116
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:28
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Re: 258, I did not know much about this D'Qwell fellow, and I did consider drafting him just for his name. I for one, am extremely jealous. Well played.
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| | | 262 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:34
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Looks like we'll wrap this up either tiday or tomrrow. Here's what's next:
1. Please fill up your rosters at Fanball. Most of you have done a good job of keeping this current. I've filled in a few teams from time to time as well. It should only take each of you a few moments to check your teams and make sure you have all 24 players.
2. Report any unlisted players. As far as I know, all drafted players are already listed at Fanball. If not, we'll need to find a placeholder and make special arrangements.
3. Once rosters are all set, they will be locked for two days. During that time, you may make claims for any undrafted players. Claim priorities will be in even round order. It appears that Fanball will be able to handle this processing automatically this preseason. (In past years, it had to be done manually).
4. Finish up your rationales. I will also set up a separate thread where you can post a recap of the draft, if you wish.
We've moved along very nicely, averaging slightly under an hour per pick, inclusive of pause time. I especially appreciate those of you who have made use of queues when you knew your availability would be compromised.
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| | | 266 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:00
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If you have completed your draft, feel free to post your rationales for rounds 23-24 here. They can then be copied over when the time comes.
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| | | 281 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:22
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I'll post this in blue so it stands out amidst the late rationales.
All rosters now have 24 players, and I hope they are the correct 24. Let me know if you notice any error.
I have now locked out teams from being able to pick up free agents. We are now in the post-draft claiming period. At noon (ET) on Saturday, all submitted claims for undrafted players will be processed, using even numbered draft round priorities. If you wish to claim an undrafted player (along with dropping one of your drafted players, of course), you must submit your claim at the Fanball site. You may submit as many claims as you wish. If you do, prioritize them appropriately.
After the claims have been awarded and I have confirmed that everything seems to have run properly, I will enable free agent pickups. During this time, dropped players will be subject to waivers (and waiver claims) for 48 hours.
This is the first year that Fanball has provided for preseason claims, so I hope it runs the way I expect it to.
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| | | 282 | BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 18:35
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After glancing over the teams you guys drafted, I found it interesting that I ended up with the same QBs as IAC (Cutler, Grossman) and the same RBs as Youngroman (Maroney, James). Sadly nobody had the same 3 WRs that I will be starting.
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| | | 285 | Smith32
Sustainer
ID: 139592519
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 21:50
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Beezer - "I don't like Romo or Eli in this format" Under what format would you like those guys? Are there bizzaro leagues where you get points for overthrowing receivers and botching holds on FG attempts?
Guru - I actually have 4 Williamses - Roy, DeAngelo, D.J., and Madieu.
holt - As a Skins fan, I did not scratch my head on the McIntosh pick. I hope he lives up to his hype - the Skins certainly paid enough for him.
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| | | 286 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 22:14
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As Billy Crystal said in When Harry Met Sally, "I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE!"
I'd like them more in leagues that didn't penalize for interceptions. Or Romo in leagues with bonus points for dating American Idol winners.
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| | | 289 | I_AM_CANADIAN
Donor
ID: 1361448
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 05:23
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RE Slackjawed YokelL
Embarrassingly, I would double-check the rules. Somehow, it wasn't until the 11th round or so when I realized we had added two IDP starters. Somehow, I remembered the added TE flex, but forgot this. Oh well, at least I realized in time and learned a lesson in the process.... and that lesson was never trust a junkie.
We actually didn't adjust the # of IDPs this year. The previous two years before, they had been upped however.
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| | | 290 | Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 08:01
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Huh, I guess you're right. I even went back to check my draft last year in AAA... So, I have even less of an excuse to be ill prepared - d'oh!
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| | | 291 | Smith32
ID: 487302216
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 08:23
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Beezer - LOL - I know you were trying to soften the blow. I would like them more (or hate them less) without penalties for INTs too. I am not sure I will retain my sanity through the season when the first 2 roster decisions I have to make each week are who to start between Eli/Romo and Julius/DeAngelo. But such is life in a league with 14 knowledgable managers.
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| | | 304 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 17:01
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Rationales are now complete. Thanks to all! I think this is a record - having all rationales submitted within 24 hours of the completion of the draft.
Remember to submit your post-draft player claims (at the Fanball site) before Saturday noon, if you want to have any priority claims on undrafted players.
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| | | 305 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:29
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Post-draft claims have been processed.
Free agents may now be added by any team, first come, first served. Dropped players are still subject to a 48 hour waiver period. Waiver claims can be submitted under the Transactions menu item.
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