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Subject: Gurupie 24 2007 Season Discussion II

Posted by: Ref - Donor [539581218] Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 18:31

Previous Thread

Hope I found all the adjustments for week two. Like week one, TB and Colts were adjusted down and also joined by Packers, Vikings and Saints.

I'll work on records and franchise standings soon.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 19:53

Here is the updated Franchise Standings and Records. THe page loads much faster this week.

We're now up about 30 points on our overall record. I think I"m going ot have to go back and make it 130 as our equivelent to 100 point games. So those records will be adjusted if I do that. I just know we should fall a little once bye weeks start coming on so not sure yet.

Several records and notables...

thk destroyed my old record of points per game. Promize also now has the highest point total to still lose a game. Worst is that his loss in Game #1 extended his record winless streak to a dozen until coming back to win game 2 and snap the skid. thk also eclipsed the largest margin of victory record. I forgot to update top 5 overall wins and losses.

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 10:03

Incredible work Ref. Thanks for all you do.

I was wondering how the W-L streaks work... if you split, how it factored into a W4 or an L5 etc. I guess its based on what happened before (or currently) and then tacked either a Win or Loss for the 1-1 week?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 19, 2007, 10:22

CBS has it as your first game listed is Game 1.

Action Figure
ID: 20910
Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 14:09

I will go out on a limb here and say McNabb likes Kevin Curtis very much.

I know people are overly critical of McNabb but he keeps hitting the same guy (my guy) for 6 points.

smallwhirled
ID: 08211318
Sun, Sep 23, 2007, 23:56

Not off to a good start as usual....Tried to plug the holes, so far, it hasn't worked. Again, as usual.

Ever since I inherited the team, I can't get it into the upper tier. Ugly.

Pete with a truly dominant performance from his Cowboys, just like in the real game that just ended.

Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Mon, Sep 24, 2007, 18:10

Thanks for the props SW. I didn't mean to rough up one of the new guys. Shades of Superbowl XXVII. ;-) Lol sry Slizz.

As far as the real Cowboys, last night's win was amazing. NFC is wide-open. We could definitely make some noise.

Slizz
ID: 498402211
Mon, Sep 24, 2007, 20:58

well at least not having tavaris jackson made a difference! Boy I wish I could have lord farve back.

ACCEPTING OFFERS FOR BRIAN LEONARD. Will package Roddy White & Leonard for an upgrade at RB.

Also, Julius Jones is on the block...best available offer...2008 draft picks

THK
ID: 178132423
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 00:14

Wrong time to play you Pete...damn

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 00:14

Some tight games! SW and I were not only playing each other but our other opponents and we both were close and won in the end. Bullock had 3 INTs and two late in the game to upset CCR and THose INTs along with the TD and keeping Brown out of the endzone late pushed me ahead. A few other close ones but didn't see anyt other ones with the game in the balance so late.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 08:41

I had just decided yesterday that I was going to put McAlister on the block as soon as I could figure out what I wanted. Guess it's too late, huh!

smallwhirled
ID: 14023168
Tue, Sep 25, 2007, 09:31

I can't believe Bulluck got 19.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 26, 2007, 02:31

Adjustments made. Will work on the records, etc. later.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 00:12

Updated Franchise Standings and Records. I just put them in the same thread as in the link in post #1.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 27, 2007, 18:07

Just noticed that I messed up CCR's record in this year's standings and it will be correct moving forward. Our year's PPG avg dipped to 99 points and now we're just 28 over our overall avg. I expect that to keep dropping as bye weeks begin this week.

Slizz
ID: 498402211
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 00:13

What's everyones thoughts on the 1st quarter of the NFL season and G24 season???

Biggest Disappointment??
-Chargers, hands down...to quote Shannon Sharpe "they replaced a coach who couldn't win a playoff game with a coach who can't win a regular season game".
-Anybody taken in the top 5 of a fantasy draft for the most part. LT/LJ/S-Jax/Frank Gore/etc. You expect gold each week, and constantly get nothing in return.

Biggest Surprise??
-Bucs?? Some may say so...but I picked the bucs as a playoff bound squad preseason...(editors note: I also picked the eagles, bears, & rams in addition to the bucs to advance to the playoffs). While I dont want to rule everything out b/c its still so early in the season...I think they still goto the playoffs b/c everyone else in the NFC south stinks.
-Packers: not so much the record, but the fact Favre is looking like a MVP candidate playing near-flawless football...which brings me to my next point:

Best FA Pickup??
-Shaun McDonald: The guy is really becoming a consistent #2/#3 WR play even in smaller leagues. He is giving his owners an average of 11 points a game...more then some top end WRs
-Derrick Ward: he is really showing, even with Brandon Jacobs healthy that he should be the feature back in Gotham City.

Best Draft Pick??
-Dwayne Bowe to Ref...this guy is a top 10 WR right now and is only getting better! We all know Adrian Peterson's a lock along with Marshawn Lynch to be good...but Bowe is a pleasant surprise who is putting up MONSTER #'s so far this year vs. expectations!

Worst Draft Pick Besides David Boston??
-Up for debate :)

Performance of the Year???
-Keith Bulluck on MNF @
-Kevin Curtis vs the Lions
-Patrick Crayton vs the Rams.

Worst Trade??
-Bills trade Brett Favre to the Colts for a 3rd rounder & Mike Bell. I'll take the fall on that one b/c I honestly thought Favre would be average, at best. Guess that was my anti-packers bias thinking moreso then anything else...In hindsight, I could probably sell him for even higher then what I got based on how he is playing now!!! Until recently, it was Chuckie Frye for a 2008 1st rounder in exchange for some 2nd rounders...but at least he had derek anderson as a continuity plan. I had Tavaris Jackson and Clemens...and nothing to go beyond that. ::pats himself on the back & tips cap to Ref::

Anyone think of any other categories, please post!

TB
ID: 538192913
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 00:54

Nice post.

I wouldn't say the Chargers are my biggest disappointment, but that's probably because I get great pleasure seeing them lose. They've been the biggest trolls this offseason at the Raider forums I frequent and I haven't seen one all season. I don't mind Bronco and Chief trolls, at least they actually have some tradition and history. Do something before you run your mouth. Wow, what a rant. The real reason they aren't a disappointment is what else did anyone expect when they A) Lost both coordinators, B) Fired their HC, and most importantly C) hired Norvell Turner? I expected them to be worse. I'd have to say Chicago and New Orleans, last years NFC championship game opponents are the biggest disappointments. SD and STL are right up there in my 2nd place book, though.

Biggest surprise for me has to be the Packers. I would have never guessed 4-0. Detroit is a bit of a surprise so far as well. Dallas is even better than what I thought they would be. Hell, Cleveland beating the Ravens, but losing to the Raiders is a perfect example of why these games are played each week.

I have to agree with the rest of your post. I'm guessing that Graham will turn out to be a good FA snag along with Ward too.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 01:07

I think PD picked Anderson off the FA wire after Frye went bye bye.

I am shocked with Favre too. I got like 4 points from him the first week and was thinking, I was at least hoping for 7 or 8 a week and occassionally hit 10. What's more, I was basically getting this rental back and giving up a pick (that will be a lot more valuable next year) just because every team should work hard to be competitive as their team will allow--even when they stink. Suddenly, not only has Favre getting numbers he hasn't seen since his prime, but Bowe has really come out of nowhere wih no QB to throw to him. Can't believe I've been winning with no starting RB at all. Maybe it's smoke and mirrors. My top pick isn't starting (Croyle). My 2nd rounder is underperforming thus far (Demetrius). I cut my 3rd and 4th round picks (Battle and Shipp) and for thisweek I had to pick up two IDPs and a RB to start for me jsut to fill out my lineup. I know it's all downhill from here--but, I'm just glad I kept trying to stay competitive and tried to get a QB. I guess you never know what will happen. Now if I can just find a RB--oh wait, Rhodes should be here in a couple weeks...sweet (I hope).

I didn't think Romo would do as well as he is. Same holds true for the Cowboys. Figured Barber would be the feature back by now and Julius the 3rd down back. Was surprised Julius got a TD carry today.

Perm Dude
ID: 4846306
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 01:14

I think PD picked Anderson off the FA wire after Frye went bye bye.

And just before his huge game against the Bengels.

:)

I need some points out of Sammy Morris tomorrow to go 2-0 (7 points will get me 2-0, 1 point will get me to 1-1). With Brandon Jackson sitting, I didn't think there was any chance to go 2-0 this week (along with sitting Pittman and the Bucs D). But it is a funny game.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 01:19

I was trying to strategize this week whether to play my D or not. Since it's a Monday night game and my other D is on bye, I was trying to run scenarios in my head if I was ahead of one team and behind teh other what I would do. I also have Shayne Graham and both my opponents have an IDP. Looks like I'm far enough ahead that even if my D gets beat like a dum it shouldn't matter. But still looking at things. Don't need a Bullock repeat of last week and a DST disaster to cost me a game.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 01:48

Bummer you didn't know about Jackson, PD. Pittman would have been really nice and assured you both wins. Morris can still get it done though. GB didn't run much at all today anyhow.

Some very close games. Doing Pick-ems I had so many problems with one of them--Eagles/Jags that I was getting ready to flip a coin when I noticed his QB was facing his DST, so I just picked the other team thinking that would cost him points. It's almost a dead-heat right now but I def like Welker over the IDP at this point. Browns/Chiefs are even closer. The bye week sure has dampened scoring thus far. Several players still going tomorrow.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 08:18

Long run, I like Trent Edwards off the waiver wire. Close question whether J.P. Losman ever starts a game for the Bills again.

Toral

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 10:25

For best performances on the year I'm going with 6 sacks and 2 FF and 22pts for a DL in last nights game by Osi Umenyiora.

For me this week no Westbrook = No wins. Figures that he played in the late game so I couldn't make any changes.

Just read that Caddy is likely out for the season so that Graham pickup may turn out to be just what the doctor ordered.

Slizz
ID: 498402211
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 19:09

well PD, you are in luck...

Laurence Maroney is INACTIVE...looks like you might go 2-0 this week.

Perm Dude
ID: 5093716
Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:09

Got lucky, that's for sure.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 02, 2007, 11:28

Found several adjustments this week. Scores should be final now.

What a mess in Pick-ems! Of course Yokel didn'ts ee it that way when he got his 16. Looks like many of us will be throwing this week out.

Talk about parity. The whole league ranges from 2 to 6 wins. Amazing.

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Oct 02, 2007, 11:35

Man I suck at Pick 'Ems this year!

Only twice this season has anyone gotten single digit correct picks... I have both of them!!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 02, 2007, 17:46

Franchise Standings and Record Book updated in the thread in the Standings Forum.

Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 13:02

Commissioners - When picking up Dilfer just now, I accidently dropped Longwell. I intended to drop Cecil Sapp, RB, DEN. I'd greatly appreciate it if I could get this transaction reversed. Thank you.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 14:36

Pete,

Discussing this with Cards.

Btw, are you coming back to Hoops? You're the only one we haven't heard from.

TB
ID: 538192913
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 14:39

I know you guys are discussing it and nobody asked my opinion, but he posted within 5 minutes of making the mistake. I'm hoping you can just fix it for him, especially seeing how he needs a kicker to have a valid line-up for the week.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 15:40

Yep, there isn't a problem really, but we like to be on the same page before making a decision like that.

We aren't going to reverse the move, but will reverse the drop of Longwell and place Sapp on waivers--which I'm sure is what he meant.

There are a couple of issues that could come into play, but as TB mentioned, he posted immediately after making the move and that should at least get the benefit of anyone in the leauge who has any doubts.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 17:18

RE: 30

He has two kickers. Longwell is actually on bye. Folk is active. But that really didn't have anything to do with it.

I'm a little surprised that Frerotte or Dilfer weren't claimed on waivers. I thought about it but decided against it. Didn't even choose to get one for free. Was sure Slizz would put in a claim for them but at least he got one afterall.

Our ppg this year are down another 3 points this week and only one team topped 120. So bye weeks are taking an even bigger bite than one might think.

Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Wed, Oct 03, 2007, 20:19

Ref, Thanks again for making the switch. I'll need Longwell for when Folk's bye occurs Week 8 so definitely didn't mean to cut him.

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 12:59

Crap, I realized 7 minutes before kickoff that I forgot to make my pick 'ems. So, I went in and randomly selected teams. Then I started looking at matchups, and tried submitting again 5 till and it already locked me out (I'd only adjusted the first game and tried to hit ok again). I guess this'll be the week I drop.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 15:58

Sean Tayor's hit on Frampton during the punt return @ 10:54 left reminded me of the the other Frampton's 70's hit "Do you feel like I do". Talk about winding someone's clock! He's already flying back to Detroit w/o a plane.

Roy William's exaggerated 1st down motion when he makes a 15 yd catch when the score is 16-3 in the 4th quarter is a little over the top IMO. Especially when the next score makes it 24-3 Washington.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 22:11

Check out these Kris Brown stats:

5 FG (54,43,54,20,57) XP for a whopping 23.5 points.

Pretty sweet for a kicker.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 23:06

Pretty sweet for anyone, but ESPECIALLY from a kicker, Congrats!

Heard earlier that no one expected much out of Favre this year. But he's only having his best year since '96.

GB is shooting themselves in the foot today. The Bears haven't tied this game up on their own that's for sure.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 07, 2007, 23:50

Did anyone else think that final INT should have been reviewed? I thought that both players might have had their arms around the ball resulting in a TD. Oh well. GB doesn't deserve to win anyhow.

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Oct 08, 2007, 02:32

Not as a Bear's fan :o)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 11:19

I looked for adjustments bu there were none. Thought that was odd as I know Manning had two kneeldowns and was negative. So I looked on the official stats and he was -2 rushing yards. This happened during week one but was corrected on Tuesday morning. I'll check back tomorrow for adjustments. If not, I'll try and find them individually thought it really is more trouble than it's probably worth.

mjd
ID: 592112011
Tue, Oct 09, 2007, 15:22

Looking for a bye week DST fill in. Doesn't have to be good.

My regular DST is Buffalo. Against all odds they had a monster game against the Cowboys, last night.

I guess that's why they play the games.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 10, 2007, 00:17

CBS has fixed the neg. yards. I only found two teams that needed further adjustments in Ravens and Chargers.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 11, 2007, 00:20

Yokel with the high score in pick-ems this week after picking randomly in about 15 secs. I think I have my new strategy!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 11, 2007, 01:17

Franchise Standings and Records updated in Football Leagues thread.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 09:50

Trade announcement: Raiders and Eagles.

Eagle's Vince Young + 2008 #4 for Raider's Andre Johnson + 2008 #1

The Eagle's 2008 #4 will improve to a #3 if AJ plays Week 7 vs (Tenn).

This is all contingent on being able to make the trade effective for the week 6 games.

Doug plz confirm.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 11:15

Doug needs to approve this trade on CBS. If anyone has an issue with this deal please speak up now as if it's accepted, I plan on approving it in time to get in today's lineup. Per our protocal, I will seek input since it is so close to the freeze that it would be impossible to veto the approval.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 11:56

It looks ok to me.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:18

RE 45

We do have an accepted trade on our desk but there is no mention of an upgraded pick contingency. Normally the trade is approved based on what is accepted in the deal but we're willing to alter it if that's the agreement.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:22

Trade's approved on CBS.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:24

The contingency is based upon AJ playing next week. I have no problem honoring the upgrade of the draft pick if he is able to play.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:40

OK, here's what we're going to do. Since the "upgrade" is to Doug's advantage and ds has accepted that, we will approve it with that language. If Doug doesn't want the "upgrade" (which would be stupid) then we'd take it away. Regardless we will know by week 7. Obviously the 3rd adn 4th round picks will be frozen from being traded until we know which pick is gone. I've only had input from two people and, like me, neither feel that the deal is controversial. Therefore, we're going to go ahead and approve.

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:43

Like I trade picks so often anyway. ;)

Doug
ID: 53937413
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:52

thx ds, Ref, etc... sorry for being late :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 12:53

Doug, I got VY in your lineup as the deadline was less than 2 mins away. It was obvious you wanted him in there.

Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 13:29

That was a fair, good trade

Doug
ID: 53937413
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 14:19

Re: 54... yeah, my other 2 QBs being on IR that's a good call. I was holding out hope for a combination of last-minute NFL IR policy change and miraculous healing, but it didn't come through.

Looks like VY is having trouble adjusting to my system. 0.12 points in the first half, grr. I better run... it's time for a little halftime "chat" with my new QB...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 14:49

VY just got hurt.

Perm Dude
ID: 35958149
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 14:59

Yeah, just saw that. If he hadn't been strolling out of bounds it wouldn't have happened.

:)

Doug
ID: 53937413
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 15:04

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 14, 2007, 15:40

In the Titans/Bucs game there were one of those freak plays. An Offensive man loses a fumble and then the Defensive player recovers it and then loses the fumble again.

We've adjusted that in the past manually to show this: The offensive player who loses the fumble initally loses 2 points for the FL. The DST gainst the points for FR but then loses it back for the FL--resulting in 0 net points. The IDP is also scored the same way. The O player who ultimately recovers it, will not get credit for any points unless he scores a TD.

Here is the play officially:

(:15) (Shotgun) K.Collins pass short middle to B.Scaife to TB 41 for 14 yards (D.Brooks). FUMBLES (D.Brooks), touched at TB 41, RECOVERED by TB-R.Barber at TB 41. R.Barber to TB 41 for no gain (C.Brown). FUMBLES (C.Brown), RECOVERED by TEN-J.Gage at TB 33. J.Gage to TB 33 for no gain (R.Barber).

I just looked at CBS and they have everything credited properly in Live Scoring except for the FL from Barber and TB DST. If they don't correct that on final standing we will have to adjust that manually as we've had to do in years past.

Myboyjack
ID: 8216923
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 17:52

I think I'm right in saying that in one of my games this week I've got I decent shot at the margin of victory record and that in my other game the loser will prolly have the record for most points scored and still lose.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 18:06

Yeah nice week mbj. Your team is certainly one to be feared.

Does anyone know anything about the Raiders backfield? I had heard on TV reports and read published reports saying that Jordan would not be able to go last week and that Rhodes and Fragas would split the carries. So I start Rhodes and he doesn't even get a touch. Starting Betts as I normally do would have gotten me the win already. I should still get my 3 points from Plax and Tuck tonight, but with Plax's ongoing injury, there's always that chance. And who knows what DL are going to do from week to week.

Re: 60, in the future if anyone is aware of this infrequent occurance, please let us know before the next week begins--preferably no later than Tuesday. I went ahead and made those adjustments and it's not going to affect any of the games. Before we just had to adjust DST, but now with the addition of IDP, it added another element. If a player would INT and the fumble it back to the original offensive team, then he'd actually gain points on the play, but only net 2 points.

TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 18:16

I expected to lose both games this week with no Manning, Parker or Heap but that score is still embarrassing. I can't believe I traded a 2nd round pick for the Miami defense. Yet again, another negative scoring week for them.

Great One
ID: 201155199
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:11

I traded away the Miami defense for a 2nd rounder?! sweet - those guys suck! :)
I traded them more because I didn't want to ever have to cheer for the Dolphins, so I guess it worked alright. Not that the Jets Defense is doing anything either...

TB
ID: 8926512
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:17

LOL
The Titans defense drove me crazy the first couple seasons and cost me several wins, but I guess I should have held out hope that they would eventually have gotten better. The Titans are currently ranked 7th in our league while the Dolphins are dead last, averaging 1 point a week.

For whoever has a 2nd defense, I am looking to make a trade.

Great One
ID: 201155199
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 19:25

I had San Fran too, Clements (and the younger guys like Willis) has turned that into a pretty good defense too. Not sure the points allowed show that yet, because the offense is so bad and they keep putting them in horrible situations... but thats a team on the rise.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 15, 2007, 21:14

Strategically it's a lot harder to have to go w/o covering a bye as it could cost you two wins. Still there are guys who are able to get some w/open spots.

I have the Bengals D, but the will drive you crazy too. Some nice weeks mixed with some pathetic ones.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 10:35

Only found one other adjustment so the standings should be final.

Can't believe all the bye week players in the active lineups this past week. I know things are thin, and some I definitely understand, but a few of the decisions leaves me scratching my head. Perhaps some thoughts are that you're just going to punt the week. While that may be smart on one level, remember that the tiebreakers are points scored. That throws a lot of strategy into the mix when making decisions. But that has also backfired on me at least a couple times over the years.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 10:39

This past week concluded the first round of intradivisional matchups. No team is 5-0 and only one team is 0-5. Through 12 games everyone has lost at least 3 games. Only two teams have won just 2 and two more have won just 4. Everyone else has won at least 5. Parity at its finest.

I'll work on the franchise standings and record book asap. From feedback I've gotten thus far, it seems that there is more interest this year than usual.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 11:01

I had 2 bye players in. No QB or K worth picking up; could only have picked up a backup QB on spec. Sage Rosenthal would have been the best guy if only I was psychic.

In addition I figured to go 1-1 regardless. As it turned out I got lucky and was 2-0, so we do have to remember that matchups are not always what they seem.

Toral

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 11:44

Thanks for doing the franchise work Ref, we all appreciate the effort.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 12:41

Agreed Toral. We also have to remember that wins are the MOST important. Tearing up your team to get a few points in a bad week probably isn't worth it.

Franchise standigns are updated. mbj's name was added a few times. Slizz hit the lwoest points scored with a win and got 2 wins this week.

I just did the Pick-ems adjusted standings manually and will post it here in a minute. Not sure I'll do this every single week.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 12:47

Pick-em Standings

Chicago Bears

17*

Indianapolis Colts

13*

17*

Jacksonville Jaguars

16*

13*

San Diego Chargers

17*

Oakland Raiders

Cincinnati Bengals

18*

Philadelphia Eagles

St Louis Rams

New York Jets

Baltimore Ravens

13*

Seattle Seahawks

New York Giants

Low week thrown out

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 14:45

I was feeling pretty good about myself despite not have a RB, etc. Then looked at my schedule this week and I play the top team record-wise in bmd's Texans as well as teh top scoring team in thk's Vikings. Plus I have my QB and my best IDP on bye and still no RB. Oh well. Going to have to reach pretty far to pull this week out. A split would be an accomplishment.

Two 9-3 teams clash with bmd and myself. I've won 8 in a row and bmd, 7.

AZ Cardinals
ID: 37262119
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 18:03

Good news! Who wants Pennington?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3065698

A lot of injured QB's out there...looking for depth at RB 1st...

Great One
ID: 201155199
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 22:47

Speaking of RB's... Priest Holmes looking like he's gonna get some carries this weekend. If someone wants that lottery ticket, I'd look to package him along with a WR for a WR upgrade.

TB
ID: 8926512
Tue, Oct 16, 2007, 23:04

Pick-ems, uggh. I knew I forgot something this week. Between all my league line-ups and the extra football games I do. I have to admit, it's hard to put a lot of effort into making the picks with all the DH's.

Thanks for all the work you do, Ref.

I have kicker Lawrence Tynes available (week 9 bye) if anyone wants him. I will trade him for any DST and will look at swapping some draft picks as well if it's actually a good DST. Hmm, I will trade him for a TE or decent IDP as well.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 11:44

Pick-ems is harder this year. Those DH's sure can take some time. I decided last week that I wasn't going to pend a lot of time thinking about things. It resulted in my best week of the season. Best thing though is that you can make up ground really fast. Gained 3 points this week alone on the front-runner to jump to 2nd place. I've always done pretty well in this game, but always an also-ran. Maybe I can figure out a way to finally win it.

Great One
ID: 201155199
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 12:02

Update
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports the Chiefs plan for Priest Holmes to eventually get 15 touches per game as a change of pace for Larry Johnson.

While Holmes is unlikely to play a major role in Week 7, it appears he'll be a significant part of the offense during the second half of the season. He's worth owning in all leagues after this news.

Slizz
ID: 119162010
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 12:56

definitely interesting for LJ's owner. I'd like to have Priest in my pockets in the event my crown jewel goes down...on the flipside, can you really trust anything Mortensen has said this year?? He's been wrong about Vick (no charges would be filed), Eli Manning (out possibly the season), and Maroney (saying he'd start too vs the Cowboys)...

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 13:20

Re: 45

AJ is inactive this week.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 13:26

Holy Smokes. Early in the 1st Qtr, Demeco Ryans already has 15 points for Yokel's Jags. Could be a a Ginormaous game for him. I mean it's huge already.

Slizz
ID: 119162010
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 14:11

Tom Brady Ref, Tom Brady.

11/11 220 yards 4 TDs as the pats are up 35-7 already!

Great One
ID: 201155199
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 14:33

5 TD's for Brady. So is he taking the second half off? Is Maroney?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 14:53

Yeah, luckily I have Brady in Hog.

Jags not only have 20 from Ryans in the first half but also 15 from Umenyiora as well. Holy Smokes!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 16:23

I've watched htis entire Titans-Txans game. Pretty crazy.

Slizz
ID: 119162010
Sun, Oct 21, 2007, 23:13

Brady or Bironas...who was the bigger deal today?

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Oct 22, 2007, 12:43

Ref - thanks for taking note of AJ being inactive.

Slizz - The 8 field goals by Bironas in a game for an all time NFL record seem to overshadow the 6 touchdown effort of Brady. That's been done by a few other QBs in the past, albeit not that many. Reality check over fantasy point totals aside both were superior efforts. ;)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 10:53

Only found a couple adjustments. One made the Browns/falcons game even closer, but PD's boys still prevailed.

I'm not sure how I eeked out a split this week. No TDs, key players on bye week. Am glad that using my waiver priority for a one week play on Collins paid off. Got me a win.

Perm Dude
ID: 6952237
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 11:19

Whew! Wasn't sure if adjustments would wipe out the win or not. I only pulled ahead with about 2 minutes left in last night's game. I didn't think I was going to have any chance against the Ravens in the other game, but it turned out to be a little closer than I thought. Was rooting for a last-minute Northcutt TD!

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 11:52

I didn't think I had much chance vs the Cards down by 3 after I saw Harrison was active and who would have guessed that Freddie K would outscore Marvin and get me the win! Trading for the Saints D proved to be the difference :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 15:02

Franchise standings and recoreds ahve been updated in the football leagues forum.

This week notables:
*Appears that mjd has taken the lead in Pickems with a nice week.
*Still in awe of the parity oer half way through the season.
*Saints have won 7 straight to take his record to 8-6 and in the playoff hunt. Two powerhouses, Broncos and Bears have lost 6 and 5 respectively.
*Colts and Texans played each other and also lost their win streaks (Colts 9, T4th longst). Jaguars ended their losing streak (11, 2nd longest) with a Game 2 win.
*Only five teams have not won at least 6 games. WOW!!!
If the playoffs started today:

AFC:
1. Colts 10-4 (WTF?!?!)
2. Texans 9-5
3. Bengals 9-5
4. Raiders 8-6 1363.1 PF
Just missing: Ravens and Bills 8-6

NFC:
1. 49ers 10-4
2. Cardinals 10-4
3. Vikings 9-5
4. Rams 8-6 1433.6 PF
Just missing: Eagles and Saints 8-6

Things can change drastically in a week with two games played.

Perm Dude
ID: 6952237
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 15:04

A nice race in the AFC East.

Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 17:27

Nothing like having the most points scored in the league, but yet only be .500. Ahh, the joys of playing in the NFC South. Historically has been the toughest division in the league and it seems like its only getting stronger.

Slizz
ID: 429482317
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:13

before last weekend, I was #17 in the power rankings...and .500!

beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:22

Slizz you are up in hoops.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 11:29

I have a nice K upgrade in Crosby who has a very strong leg and has already had his bye week. Also have the cincy D who has already had their bye week. If anyone's looking for a keeper WR, I have Demetrius Williams, but couldn't trade him until later in the year as I need him now (unless I got another one back or packaged one with another player). I need a bye week TE and a RB/WR to help cover bye weeks.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 12:06

Now this is the kind of week I figured to have all season. Though my two best players (Plax and Berrian) are normally really good plays.

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Oct 29, 2007, 14:03

I've been throwing out some offers and want to make a note here about my draft picks also being available.

I have 2 high 1st round draft picks available... I have PD's Browns pick and also my own 1st rounder, which considering that I am tied for last in the league is pretty darn valuable. I've also threw out some offers which included a 1st round swap which I saw as some value and is essentially me moving down in the draft tacked on as value in a trade.

I would move these in combination with my other players to get a significant upgrade keeper type player for teams that are rebuilding and want multiple high picks for next season.

Primarily looking for a WR - but if you can upgrade Brees, Addai, KJ, I'll consider anything.

100

Perm Dude
ID: 69312810
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 00:06

Dammit.

101

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 01:33

:(

I looked and I didn't see any negative yards from his QB--the most likely source for adjustments. Not sure why CBS hasn't been including negative yards in their live scoring this year. Their IDP scoring is awesome.

I wasn't happy when barnett didn't get credit for an assisted tackle on a play and then he missed a tackle late on young that could have gotten me another win. Oh well. Slizz was ahead of ds too and on one play Stokely catches and Woodson tackles to win the game. Lots of close games this week.

102

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 12:18

Looks like Favre's non-sack and counted as a big negative rush was the only adjustment.

PD lost by .18.

Not sure how mjd lost 6 points overnight but he now has lost by 3 to mbj after finishing the night up 3.

103

myboyjack
ID: 11929308
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 13:59

Ref - I couldn't figure out where his points went either; though I also couldn't figure out where they came from.....

104

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 14:51

Not sure what happened either, but it gave me another needed win in pick'ems.

105

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 15:08

I wouldn't have even known but Slizz told me I was still in first place and I said no way and I looked and saw that mjd had won. Guess that's why the live scoring is unofficial. But barring the negative yards gained, CBS' live scoring is the best I've seen.

106

Slizz
ID: 21733916
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 16:16

Thanks alot, AJ Hawk...you scrub!

107

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 17:36

Pick-ems

Indianapolis Colts 13 14 16 10 13* 17* 15 17* 115 = 105 1st
Chicago Bears 16 17* 17 10 11 14 12 17* 114 = 104 T2nd
Jacksonville Jaguars 11 14 16 16* 13* 13 13 17* 113 = 102 4th
San Diego Chargers 17* 14 14 14 9 15 17* 13 113 = 104 T2nd
Philadelphia Eagles 13 14 13 12 8 14 17* 15 106 = 98 5th
Cincinnati Bengals 11 14 18* 10 12 13 15 11 104 = 94 T7th
New York Jets 9 13 14 9 8 16 15 17* 101 = 93 9th
Oakland Raiders 13 15 17 11 11 15 15 0 97 = 97 6th
Baltimore Ravens 14 13 16 11 13* 0 13 14 94 = 94 T7th

108

Great One
ID: 201155199
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 17:45

I've tried a new system the last few weeks - the results are good the last 3 weeks but its a shame its probably too late.

109

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 17:53

It really isn't too late using DHs. As you can see, I wasn't doing especially well until the last few weeks and still am only up by one on two teams. Very easy to make up ground. There are 24 games and we've only had one score of 18. A great week could catch you up in a hurry.

SO even though I just got clipped by bj21, I was still counting my lucky stars for even getting a split as I was horrible this week for the most part. So I looked to see how unlucky PD was. I looked at his DB and rememebred him as being pretty decent. Looked at his past weeks and thought he was pretty good and how unfortunate it was to get a 0 from him. Then I noticed he was on his bye week! OMG! Bodden was on his bench and got a 14. That would have given PD two wins instead of two losses. I'm a realist and understand that I'm a pretender and should fall out of the contender status soon barring a minor miracle, but that win for thk could really bolster his chances. Ugh! Well we all have those "Oh Snap" moments. Just make sure that you check your lineups weekly. These by-weeks can creep up on you. Not as many trades this year either. In the past we had seen a lot of trading around bye weeks. We had thought adding players would increase them, but has had the opposite effect. Wonder if it's because there are still so many decent IDPs out there?

110

Perm Dude
ID: 2992308
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 17:56

Yeah, I was lamenting Bodden being on the bench, too (especially after seeing his game-ending INT to seal the win!). For some reasom I thought the IDP flex spot was a LB spot and thought I'd just have to suck it up this week. It wasn't until the games got going that I saw that it was a flex spot.

111

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 18:03

If the playoffs started this week:
AFC
1. Cincinnati Bengals 11 5 1717.6 AFCE1
2. Oakland Raiders 10 6 1534.2 AFCW1
3. Indianapolis Colts 11 5 1573.0 AFCE2
4. Baltimore Ravens 10 6 1367.0 AFCE3

In the hunt:
Houston Texans 9 7 1450.2
Buffalo Bills 9 7 1336.8

NFC
1. San Francisco 49ers 12 4 1646.5 NFCS1
2. Arizona Cardinals 12 4 1608.9 NFCN1
3. Minnesota Vikings 10 6 1694.2 NFCN2
4. Philadelphia Eagles 10 6 1565.3 NFCS2

In the hunt:
St Louis Rams 9 7 1584.5
New Orleans Saints 9 7 1390.2

112

blackjackis21
ID: 27933016
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 18:03

I was lucky to clip you, Ref. I guess I can't complain with 1-1 given my QB bye week. In hindsight, I wish I'd tried a little harder to find a bye week QB, though I did make a few proposals.

I wish StL. Cards would lose a game or two - then again, I probably can't hope for too much with Jamal Lewis and Chester Taylor for my RB options.

113

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 18:05

Better than Betts and Rhodes!!!

114

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 30, 2007, 18:19

Funny thing is that I wanted Sheffler this past week but only for this one matchup as Gonzo was on bye. But low and behold, sj picked him up right ahead of me. I couldn't figure it out as he had 3 TEs now. Then he drops him on Saturday and I can't get him. So I pick up a backup TE who was supposed to get a lot of looks since the starter was out and he gets me a 0, while Sheffler gets a TD. Oh well. Rhodes has been a anightmare for me and yet another Keeper wated. Betts should be doing more. Bell los this job. Ced Houston is out of the NFL. Nash died of a heart attack. I move Garcia and he comes back to start ahead of my only QB. Then I get Ryan Grant and drop him and had a horrible time picking the right DST to start the first 3 weeks. So I feel VERY fortunate to be where I am. Lucky is an understatement.

115

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 01:03

Franchise Standings and Record Book updated

116

Toral
ID: 575542418
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 14:20

Lesson for the day: don't ass-u-me.

For some reason I assumed that Patten would be gone already in this league and didn't check. I could have used him.

Toral

117

Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 16:37

Well Ref, at least you got Favre for a ONLY 3rd rounder!

I made a couple stupid bets at the beginning of the season. I thought I could hold a QB Ransom and get some decent return based on the scarcity of QB's in this league in Tavaris Jackson. Well my phone isnt ringing :/ Worry about things you can and can't control is my lesson.

Another funny thing, Adrian Wilson on the unemployment line. Wish I actually followed the add/drops diligently instead of waiting until I need something! Had I done that like GO, I would have AJ Hawk (pick 1.04), Adrian Wilson (1.02), & Will Witherspoon (1.09) as my IDP's!

You really have to follow all aspects of this league and you'll eventually find some gold like Adrian Wilson.

118

Toral
ID: 575542418
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 17:51

Adrian Wilson: bad hamstring may hamper his play all year. Had to drop him in a much shallower league, even though he was the only IDP I went high for.

So we get to the $ 64,000 question...is a healthy Adrian Wilson a keeper next year? How many IDPs are?

We'll find out next April.

Toral

119

Slizz
ID: 429482317
Wed, Oct 31, 2007, 17:54

Toral doing his homework!

What will it take to get Ced Ben on my squad?

120

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 02, 2007, 13:02

This was added to the trade hat was just approved:

SW acquires GO's 1st Round pick, GO acquires SW's 1st Round Pick

121

Slizz
ID: 21733916
Fri, Nov 02, 2007, 15:08

Good trade for both!

JaMarcus to Porter double up in points, a back who'se seeing his workload increase and arguably one of the leagues top DE's.

GO gets what was once a stud WR who has been plagued by a "conservative" offense and nick-nack injuries...talent is definitely there, now its just a matter of execution from Campbell.

122

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Fri, Nov 02, 2007, 15:18

Yeah, welcome Santana back to "the Jets"... I wouldn't be surprised if actually had a good game vs. his old team on Sunday. Maybe gets a few extra balls thrown his way.

And we know Slizz loves the QB+WR combo cause Clemens and Cotchery are unattainable for the rest of their careers!
Maybe the Bears draft Brohm and I can pick Brohm and trade for Berrian. Thats my only chance of ClemensToCotchery ever joining the G24 Jets where they rightfully belong.

123

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 12:21

SW check your lineup! I filled it in last night to make it legal after the trade but youneed to start your optimal lineup.

124

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Nov 04, 2007, 22:50

Cripes. As of right now, if I had checked availability and picked up Patten, I would be ahead by 0.01. Despie being a fluke team, with a good record only because I have has the fewest points scored against in the league, and even with Cutler injured, I would have been 2-0 and still really in the playoff hunt.

I need for Curtis to catch one more pass..whoops! He just did it. I would have lost anyway. Otherwsie, in my capacity as owner, I would have had to fire myself as general manager.

Toral

125

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 12:10

Priest starting for KC again, what is this 2002!?!
He was in my "On the Block" trade update in case anyone was paying attention.

126

Slizz
ID: 21733916
Mon, Nov 05, 2007, 15:12

Norv Turner @ MIN
How great is that picture?? Seriously.

127

Slizz
ID: 91039118
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 23:33

James f'n Harrison...*laughs* Oh well...so much for the Bills playoff push.

128

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 14:03

Franchise Standings and Records updated in the leagues forum.

DS went nuts! 2nd best overall. Also broke the Pick-ems mark.

I bolded most of the records that were added this week. Not going to mess with bolding overall wins and losses.

OK so does no one want to win the AFC West? mjd has done well lately and pulled to .500. What a story that would be if he took that team he inherited this year to the playoffs!

Looks like there are teams who could clinch after this week.

Current playoff standings:
AFC
1. Colts 13-5
2. Raiders 10-8
3. Bengals 12-6
4. Ravens 10-8
Best of the rest: Texans, Chargers, Bills (9-9)

NFC:
1. 49ers 14-4
2. Cardinals 14-4
3. Eagles 12-6
4. Vikings 12-6
Best of the Rest: Rams, Saints (10-8)

Pickems Top 7 (Lowest week dropped weeks 1-14)
1. Colts 122
2. Bears 118
2. Jags 118
2. Chargers 118
5. Eagles 117
6. Raiders 111
7. Jets 105

129

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:52

How many teams get in? 6 or 4 from each side?

130

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 18:10

4 from each side. Each div. is guaranteed one team and a top 2 seed.

The other 16 teams will play in a single elimination tourney as well. 1v4 and 2v3 in each conference. Winners and losers play each other. Same thing goes for the finals/3rd/5th/7th place games.

Teams 9-16 play for the Wanna-Be Bowl. It's straight seeding w/o regard for conference affiliation. 9v16 and so on. Same thing goes for teams 17-24 for the Toilet Bowl. Also for teams 9-24, the post season games will not count for draft seeding so winning will not hurt you at all.

It's also in our constitution.

132

Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 19:21

While GO brings it up I would always like to look at possibly bringing the playoffs to six teams per conference, promotes activity throughout and gives the top two teams per conference a well deserved bye week.

133

Great One
ID: 201155199
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 20:17

Thats what I was thinking... whats the reward for being a top seed? No reason we can't copy the "real" NFL format.

134

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 00:09

Not enough weeks in the season. By scrapping week 17, we have 3 weeks to get in our tourney. Anything more shortens the regular season. I tried to think of all kinds of possibilities when we thought we were going 6 divisions this year but nothing we came up with worked out. CBS isn't set up to allow more than four divisions--hence no realignment.

135

Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 21:37

In the New Orleans-New York Jets trade, Jets receive New Orleans' 2nd round dc next year; Saints receive Jets' 8th round dc next year.

Toral

136

Great One
ID: 201155199
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 22:12

Confirmed.

137

Slizz
ID: 451053923
Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 00:54

GO wheelin & dealin

138

Great One
ID: 201155199
Sat, Nov 10, 2007, 09:56

A lot happened when I was asleep! lol...

139

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 16:40

I hate Green Bay's defense. Have since the 67 NFL Championship game vs Dallas in the Cottom Bowl. The Ice Bowl in 68 was just lucky piling on.

Messing with the Cowboys are one thing, now they're screwing with my fantasy team....

First - it's Larry Johnson last weekend with a possible broken foot (no one's really saying in KC). Now AP's out for who knows how long with a lateral collateral ligament tear

I don't know what's worse, knowing about AP, or guessing about LJ. At least there's hope for LJ to play at this point. At least the bye weeks are over and Andre should play.

Houston doesn't play Green Bay do they?

140

Slizz
ID: 21733916
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 17:47

at least LT got through em unscaved.

141

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:22

Was really hoping Weaver was going to be playing in garbage time instead of Morris. Oh well.

142

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:28

Roy, TB: check your e-mail.

143

Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 18:42

RE 130: I need clarification when you say each division is guaranteed a top 2 seed. Does that mean if one division has 2 teams(other than its top seed) that are better than the other division's 2nd best team, that 2nd best team from the weaker division still gets in?

I hope that makes sense. For example, I can remember in previous years the NFC South getting 3 teams in before(1 top seed and 2 WCs)

144

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 23:35

Pete, it's the same way it has always been. Nothing has changed. But since we have all slept since then was refreshing people's minds since not everyone reads the rules.

Maybe I can make it simpler by saying the best three teams in each conference are guaranteed entry into the playoffs. Each Division winner is guaranteed entry into the playoffs and the next best two teams get wilc card entries--regardless of division within that conference. The Division winners get the top two seeds. So if one division's winner is say 6-20, they still would get the #2 seed even if all the other playoff teams have a much better record.

I haven't had a lot of time today to update our franchise standigns or records but everyone can basically look and see who is in the playoffs if we ended today. A lot can change though. There are teams who are currently outside teh playoffs looking in who could probably win it all. That NFC South Division is so strong that someone is going to get left out who would make it in another division.

145

Promize
ID: 8857295
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 17:50

Know what would be a great rule for leagues... and we could be the first....

No Free Agent pickups till 7pm mountain time or something.

Give people a chance who actually work during the day to come home and hear news on players and a chance to pick them up...

146

Great One
ID: 201155199
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 18:03

Slizz and I can't access CBS at work anymore, so we'd be in favor of that! :)

Question about cell phones - anyone have a cell phone where they can successfully do add/drops and set lineups from? I just haven't been able to successfully do that on my RAZR unless I'm doing something wrong. Blackberry I guess... or Iphone...

147

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 18:33

Standings and Records updated. More later...

148

Promize
ID: 8857295
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 20:58

RE:146

Yah, same situation at my work because of high security with my job.

I just don't see how fantasy football can be fair to those who have to work all day compared to those who sit at home at the computer all day or work...

Something I think our league should vote on, we have 3 to 10 commishs, shouldn't be hard to manage :)

149

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 23:06

What? 3 to 10 commishs? There is no way we can limit it. That's not an option CBS gives us to control. If you need to make a move you can email us and we can make that move for you. You can look things over on Mon or all day Tuesday. You can put in waiver claims. And if you don't wish to use it, then you're rolling the dice. I travel--so should everyone be unable to pick up players when I'm out of town?

150

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 23:17

Pickems:

Colts 138
Chargers 135
Bears 133
Eagles 135
Jags 131
Bengals 123
Raiders 127
Jets 118

Playof Race:
AFC
1. Colts 14-6
2. Raiders 12-8
3. Bengals 13-7
4. Bills 11-9
Close: Chargers, Ravens, Texans 10-10

NFC
1. 49ers 16-4
2. Cardinals 14-6
3. Eagles 14-6
4. Vikings 13-7
Close: Rams, Packers 11-9

151

Promize
ID: 8857295
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 01:01

1 - was sarcasim with the commish because I really don't know how many we have these days..

2 - it isn't about Waivers... it is about announcements that come out on Wednesday and Thursday I.E. Ricky today Without email, internet, etc had no idea he was reinstated or even out there. I'm sure GO and others didn't either. So those who do have internet access and sit at the computer all day probably did.

3 - I know you travel, but i'm at an office that has no internet access to these sort of sites at all for 8-10 hours a day.

4 - It was a suggestion for the entire league... If I was thinking about myself only, I would of said make it at 6pm eastern time, but I tried to make it so everyone would be home or a have chance.

152

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 08:57

Problem is that everyone has different working working hours or times they are busy or traveling etc. This is actually the first I've heard about Ricky being reinstated so different hours wouldn't help me there either.

The only way we could implement something like that would be to make all players go on waivers everyday, and then people could put in a waiver claim on them that would run that night at 1AM or whenever it is. I'm not sure we can force all players to waiver status or not everyday, but something to think about.

Of course either option would eliminate the ability to pick up a player and start them the same day on gameday unless somehow gamedays were made an exception.

153

Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 09:21

Thats a pretty darn good idea... if it were possible.

154

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 09:46

Promize, we have two commishs only. The one year we had rfs as the treasurer and gave him commish privs even though he wasn't commishing. We've really only had two commishs for all 6 years of the league. Not sure if you're getting your leagues confused or what. Hence, I didn't get the sarcasm. Still don't actually, but it's fine.

Cards made my point. Just because you work during the day in whatever time zone you work in, doesn't mean everyone shares those hours. All I was saying was that there would never be a perfect solution. I've lost many of players due to not being able to be around when announcements came out over the years.

What's funny is that I actually tried to dump Ricky after I got him for someone else but it wouldn't let me do it. I took too long and someone else got the guy I wanted in the interim, so I kept Ricky.

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Promize
ID: 8857295
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 18:52

Its cool, like I said that commish part was just goofin with you all...

As I was sitting at work today, I did start thinking about the settings with CBS and said wait.. I think you can do Waivers everynight..

So why not? Of course this year is to late in the year to do it, but I would like to have a vote or whatever we need to do to bring it up for next year. I don't plan on losing my job this year, so I figure I will be in the same boat. I do believe late Friday night or Early Saturday morning you can open the flood gates again and make it F/A

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 19:03

No problem at all. We will have a vote next fall if there is some support for it.

I am looking at the league settings though and don't see a setting where we can do daily waivers w/o allowing them to go unclaimed. There is a setting which tells what day waivers would run. Maybe it's in a different location but I sure can't find it. I've never heard of a league doing this before, but again, if the league decides that's what it wants to do and we can accomodate it then I'm good with it as well.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 19:16

Waivers run every night right now. But, I think the confusion lies in the free agents. After waivers run, the unclaimed players go to free agents. Dropped players go to the waiver wire where they may be claimed and awarded on the day he's eligible.

As I said previously, the only other option I see is to move back initial waivers from the Tues night/Wed morning. That can be tough because some teams need to figure out if they got their claims so they can move to plan B if nec. due to injuries and bye weeks--esp with the Thurs night games.

Here are our waiver options:

Waivers Run:
Tue
Wed
Thu
Fri
Sat

Waivers Period: 1 day2 days3 days
Max Claims/Week: Unlimited123456789101112131415161718192021222324252627282930

Waivers Order
Resets: Every week based on reverse order of standingsNever (always based on prior waivers run)

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StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 19:41

I looked at the settings too and see no way to force all players into waivers every day.

There is a FAAB or whatever it is called that could possible be made to work. That option is really meant for a budget league, but if two bids submitted are equal, then it defaults to a list and whoever is higher on the list wins the free agent and is moved to the bottom of the list. So if desired, there could 'possibly' be a method to do that. It would take some research to see if it would work or not, but usually these type of workarounds have limitations making them untenable but we can look into it. Like Ref, I have never been in a league that did it that way, but that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be done if that is what everyone wants.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 21:41

Cards I saw that bu skipped over it because it was for money bids. But agian, it is for waivers only. Has no bearing on Free Agents or would have any bearing on placing everyone on waivers again or preventing free agency to occur.

Essentially (IIUC), what Promize is proposing is for players to stay on the WW until late in the week but every day waivers run--but only those players claimed can come off waivers until then.

CBS does not have that function. The only thing we could do is not let the waivers to run until later in the week. With Thursday games, we could only push it back one day at the most and that still wouldn't address his concerns in totality.

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StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 23:08

Here is part of what I read about it.

FAAB stands for Free Agent Acquisition Budget. Every add/drop is granted via a blind, bidding system that is processed automatically. Each time an owner has an add/drop processed, they will be placed at the bottom of the FAAB order. If there is a tie for a player, the FAAB order is used; the owner that is higher in the list will receive the player and be moved to the bottom.

I realize it is

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StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Nov 15, 2007, 23:13

a budget system, but we could possibly give people a $1 budget or something. Like I said, it would take some research to figure out how and if it would even work and that is assuming people would even want to consider implementing a restriction on free agent pickups in the first place.

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Promize
ID: 8857295
Fri, Nov 16, 2007, 07:30

I appreciate you all looking into this.. Thank you, I think it would help some of us that do have problems with work, traveling etc if we could figure out a way to do this. Thanks again REF and STL for researching.

If I have time tonight, I'll try to look at my commish settings in my league see if there is a way. But time to get ready for KY vs GA tomorrow :)

P.S. - STL can you believe Mizzou?!?!?! It has been so long for us to witness this yah know.

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slizz@blackberry
ID: 219562614
Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 10:42

Promize...how in the hell did your team not above .500!?!? I play you this week and see your record and am like wow!

The afc must really bode some average teams bc I am scheduled to put up 104 pts and am a dog to a 8 and 12 squad. I am in the #4 spot and have been without a QB or javon walker the entire year!!! Now clemens is going and I get walker back next week. But still my point is the NFC is really strong if a squad as solid as yours is below .500

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Promize@Parents
ID: 31841217
Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 10:58

LOL Lets go down the list...

Evans - dud at season start
Maroney - constantly injured
McGahee - another team with no offense
Ward - injured beginning
C. Johnson - future is bright
Pope - took forever to finally have big game
GB Def - solid, but if I had kept the Lions! lol

What is the biggest disaster???? Alex Smith, what a waste on a #1 draft pick

Season start I thought for sure I would be overlooked and be in the hunt.. Again, I'll be in the lottery I guess.. Maybe I can get the miracle pick for McFadden!

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mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 13:08

What's the deadline for pick'ems? I just wasted 20 minutes doing them and now I'm told I missed the deadline.

I thought I was completed by about 7 minutes to gametime. I made sure I was done before 5 till. Ran through the last few to get them done on time.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 13:11

I don't know. I assumed it was 5 mins till.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 10:41

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