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Subject: RIFC 2008 : Draft discussion


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 13:44

I have activated the draft, but the clock will not start until Monday. The clock will be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 1am-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. Please note: The clock will continue to run on weekends.

People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks. Similarly, the clock will be manually advanced to skip past anyone who already has a pick in arrears, unless other arrangements have been made in advance of that pick.

We will maintain a draft discussion thread here, but it will probably not be used extensively. If you know that you have pending time constraints, please post them in this thread. (e.g., "I'll be away until 6pm ET, so if my pick is due before then, you'll have to wait.") To the extent that you can alert everyone to potential availability issues, you can help others to plan their check-in times accordingly. That's simply good draft etiquette. Please also use this thread to recruit designated pickers, if needed.

If you know you will be away when your next pick is likely to be due, you can can set up a queue in kafenatid and designate one of more managers to pick on your behalf. Your queue will not be visible until it is your turn to pick. Be aware that, as commish, I am able to submit picks for anyone. So even if you have no designated pickers, if you have a queue and it is marked "available", I will be able to make a pick on your behalf when your pick is due. Therefore, if you do not want your queue used, make sure it is marked "unavailable". If your pick is due and your queue is available, I will assume that you want it to be used unless you have posted explicit instructions to the contrary.

I will clear all rosters at the fanball site shortly, and ask that each of you pick up your player as soon as you draft him. I will also attempt to make pickups for teams using a designated picker, so that we can maintain as complete a list of free agents as possible at Fanball.

When drafting, there is no need to draft every position. For example, if you want to skip a kicker, be my guest. However, the Fanball software will force you to fill each of the 14 active slots when you set your lineup for each game. You will not have the ability to leave an active slot blank, so plan your bench needs accordingly. In particular, if you plan to use a player in the opening Thursday night game, every roster slot will need to be filled by the Thursday freeze. You may still make substitutions prior to Sunday for unfrozen players, but you cannot have a player active on Thursday night if any starting slot is vacant at that time.

Note that trades during the draft are allowed. Trades should be announced here, and may include any combination of picks and/or players.

Players who are not yet listed at Fanball may be drafted, and if so, a placeholder player will be assigned to your roster until the player is available. Once the draft is complete, you may no longer sign (or protect) an unlisted player. If a player is listed at Fanball but not yet available at kafenatid, there is a link at the draft site to request the addition of that player. Try to anticipate these needs, so that we do not have to hold up the draft while waiting for a player addition.

Rationales will be expected for each pick, but delayed by two rounds. When we near the end of round two, I will set up a thread for those.

Please refrain from mentioning undrafted players, either in this thread, or in your posted rationale.

Although the clock will not start until Monday, we do intend to get the draft moving this weekend, and I would hope we could complete at least one round before Monday morning. Please plan accordingly, and make arrangements as necessary (or at least post your limitations). Technically, the draft does not start until Friday, but I have activated it early to enable the ability to set queues and designated pickers. Meanwhile, you may go ahead and make your picks early, if they are next in line.

 
1Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 13:48
Anyone may follow the draft progress with the following link:
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?238

Sequential picks are shown first, followed at the bottom by a position grid.

Qualifying leagues may also follow their drafts with a similar link, simply substituting their league ID at the end of the URL.
 
2Smith32
      ID: 25751421
      Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 23:01
The first pick has been made!
 
3Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 12:33
Just a heads up - I'll be out for most of the day on Saturday, so don't count on me to make a timely pick on your behalf. I do expect to be able to check in once or twice during the day, and will try to leave a queue for someone if it appears that my pick might be imminent. (Hopefully, my first round pick will be made today.)

Other than tomorrow, I should generally be available during the next two weeks. In particular, if anyone needs me to contact them via phone, I can do that. Send me an email and we can make arrangements.
 
4Nerfherders
      ID: 501035289
      Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 18:03
I will be out of town next week, Monday thru Friday, with no internet access during the day and spotty at night. Not sure how I am going to work this yet.
 
5Guru
      ID: 147431615
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 16:45
I set up a short queue (which might be insufficient) and made Slackjawed Yokel a DP. Otherwise, I'll be away until 10pm or so.
 
6 LetterJ
      ID: 547161112
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 17:25
ben,

I have sent you an e-mail to your gmail account. Please get
back to me asap.

It will be at least a couple of hours until I pick...#19 for sale.
 
7I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 18:14
I replied/declined. Thx for the offer though.
 
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 16:19
Everybody - please remember to pick up your drafted players at the Fanball site. Doing this on a timely basis will help to keep the free agent listing at Fanball relevant.
 
9 I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 17:55
Anybody interested in moving up? I'm considering my options right now.
 
10I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 18:04
I'll make my pick by 6:30PM EST if nobody has gotten a hold of me by then.
 
13Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 19:57
Nice job at knocking off 2+ rounds in the first weekend.

 
14Tree
      ID: 397571710
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:21
can someone help me with email settings. currently, i'm getting emails everytime someone adds a player to their roster. i dont want that right now.

and i cannot for the life of me figure out where to change this.
 
15Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:43
On the fanball page:
My Team--->My Team Profile-->Notify me of add/drop transactions
 
16Smith32
      ID: 25751421
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 22:46
Re: [14]

Under the MyTeam menu, select "My Team Profile". There are 4
"Email Notification" options there.

Hope this helps.

Smith32
 
17Tree
      ID: 397571710
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 23:03
man.

i have to say i am finding fanball to be the single most frustrating fantasy site i have ever used.

i don't know if it's my browser or the settings on my computer, but getting to our league page is proving to be very difficult.
 
18Tree
      ID: 397571710
      Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 23:18
never mind the fact that i have a really hard time accessing the league page, i can't even do as suggested above, because the pull down menus end up *underneath* the Green Bar that says "Rotoguru Invitational Football Challenge", so i can't even click on those links....
 
20holt
      ID: 15621316
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 02:29
I'll be around to check on the draft around 11:30 central on monday and then again around 3:30 central. I don't have a single name queued up atm.
 
21holt
      ID: 15621316
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 02:48
btw - anyone know an easy way to clear your team's watch list at fanball. I must have 50 names or more from last year. I don't plan to clear them one at a time.
 
22I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 06:00
FYI to those picking around me... most days during the week, I won't have access between 6AM-6PM. On the days where I can setup a queue, I will, but on days like today, where close to 20 picks will go off, I'll take that chance.
 
23Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:50
Tree - sounds like a browser issue. If you're using MSIE, try Firefox - or vice versa.
 
24Tree
      ID: 67581211
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 10:39
yea. i'm using firefox. i loathe MSIE.
 
25Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 11:47
I use Firefox as well, and have had no display or functionality issues with Fanball. Perhaps you have a plugin that's creating some sort of conflict.
 
26Tree
      ID: 67581211
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 12:23
thanks guru...i'll have to figure it out. it's definitely something at home, because it's the banner at the top that reads RIFC - on my work computer, using firefox, it's fine.
 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 12:38
The long delay by fugazi is disappointing.

He will time out at 1:28pm. Tree, if your're ready at that time, I also have queue instructions for Nerf (jrdoolit) for both his 3rd and 4th rounder, so we can pick up the pace - and if electroman is also available, we can make a quick turn.

For advance planning, I will be away from about 4pm until 8pm today. I had hoped we'd get to my pick well before then, but if not, I'll set up a queue.
 
28fugazi
      ID: 46750221
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 12:57
Sorry guys. I had no access to the internet this morning. And I did not want to queue my 3rd pick. I promise this will not be an ongoing issue.
 
29Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 12:57
I am here for another hour. I hope that I can make the picks on my own, otherwise, I will leave a Q.
 
30Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 16:08
I left a 3-player queue with Yokel as DP. Back around 8:30.
 
31Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 19:22
We place our rationales here that have been skipped?
 
32Smith32
      ID: 25751421
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 19:33
Re [31] - Yes.

From the rationale thread: "When your post is ready, simply post it
in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over."
 
34I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:02
Ho hum... not capable of setting up a 2 player queue when we've been on hold for 4.5 hours? A little disappointing.
 
35I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 21:22
Well... I'm off to bed. Should the draft get moving, I got a 6 player queue in place. Please only use it for pick 4.11

Thanks
 
36holt
      ID: 15621316
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 23:26
tree - if you use adblocker, try messing with that a bit. and turn off the rifc header thing. don't remember what it's called exactly but you'll see what I mean.
 
37deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 23:32
I'm out of here. Back in the AM.
 
38Tree
      ID: 177421817
      Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 23:44
tree - if you use adblocker, try messing with that a bit.

thanks. that might actually have done it...

 
39deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 00:13
drafts up to holt, I left a 2 person queue JIC. I really am leaving now.
 
40holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 01:10
i can't add calvin johnson to my roster. says claims next to all the fa names.
 
43I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 01:59
same issue as Holt... can't pickup Selvin Young due to claiming priority?
 
44I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 02:13
hmmm... If you use the add/drop menu from the "my team" page, it'll process the add w/o going through claims.
 
45I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 06:02
I made another 7 player queue. Please use it only for pick 5.04

Thx
 
46Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 06:44
I have only left a queue for my pick 5.03
 
47 Smith32
      ID: 396101713
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 08:09
Anyone have any interest in swapping 5th and 6th round picks? If so, contact me.
 
48Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 08:52
I turned off the Fanball claiming system for now, so you can pick up players. It must have been imposing the claiming process because it's Tuesday.
 
49Smith32
      ID: 396101713
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 08:59
I'll make my Rd 5 pick at 10:00am ET if I can't work a trade before then.
 
51Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 10:21
Thanks to several of you in the front half of the draft who made effective use of queues in rounds 4-5. Some of those in the back half need to do that as well. We should be averaging about 24 picks per day.
 
52Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 10:49
i'm going to leave a queue for my next pick.

it will have multiple players, but it is ONLY for the next pick. please don't allow it to carry over to the following round...
 
53Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 11:06
Queue left for my next pick Rnd 5 ONLY. Tree, holt, deepsnapper and Guru DPs.
 
54holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 12:33
just got home - updating my sheets - shouldn't be too long
 
55LetterJ
      ID: 547161112
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 15:05
I selected Kevin Smith, RB, DET but accidentally keyed in WR
for the position...do not know if this can be fixed or if it even
matters...it does screw up the draft grid however. Sorry.
 
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 15:13
I fixed it.

Very nice pace today. Much better than yesterday!
 
57Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 15:37
Queue is available for round 6.
 
58Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 15:48
I just filled in the rosters at Fanball, for those that were missing players. Rosters are complete through pick 6.02
 
59Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 16:11
weird. i didn't get an email i was up. i'll pick in a little bit...
 
60holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 16:47
DON'T pick from slowhand queue now - see #53
 
61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 17:06
I did pick. See #57
 
62holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 17:17
oops. too sleepy to read.
 
72Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 23:32
Queue is up for rd 7 only.
I'll catch up on rationales first thing AM
 
75Nerfherders
      ID: 42412622
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 02:16
Well I barely have time to reset queues every night so I am going to have to sit down and do rationales when I get home this weekend.
 
76deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 02:19
moved rationales from posts: #19, #33, #41, #42, & #50.

Guru - I wasn't sure what to do with the rationales from this thread after they're moved. I don't know the html letter for a strikethrough and I didn't want to start deleting them w/o getting an OK. I know keeping them "as is" can be a pain since it gets difficult to keep track what's been moved later on as the numbers mount.
 
77Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 05:35
Left a queue for my two picks. Please select two different positions, thanks. Made tree, guru and jrdoolit dp's.
 
78I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 06:13
Queue setup for my 8.11 pick. Please use it only on this pick.
 
82Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 10:18
I'll pick shortly.
 
84Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:02
I'll pick shortly. I'm currently arguing with myself about my next pick. Was all set to hit the button, but pulled back, and am now rethinking.
 
85Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 11:04
Just picked and need to leave for a meeting...no time to research a large queue, but it shoundn't get back to me for awhile and I can check in @1 or 2 and leave a queue if it's getting close.
 
86Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 12:34
I have a queue setup for my 8.12 pick.

I'll check back in about 2 CST to see about my 9th round pick.
 
87Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 12:55
Da Bomb - in case you haven't checked your email lately, please check the keeper league thread where we are awaiting resolution of a morning snafu.
 
88holt
      ID: 15621316
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 13:09
will be back around 3:30 central for my rd 9 pick
 
89deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:08
All rationales through #83 have been moved.

Re #83 - Slowhand - I moved that into 5.06 and it said holt (no coffee) so I went back to Kaffinated and realized you were odd 9 & even 6 so I moved it to 5.09. I required Java to get my head around it though...
 
90Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:50
deepsnapper - thanks for all the grunt work. It's a tedious job, especially when we get backlogged. I usually try to intervene and keep it moving, but I was sidetracked with several other unrelated issues this morning, and had to put that on the back burner.
 
91Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 14:59
Queue left for Rd. 9 only please.

Re: 89 No worries deepsnapper; as long as it ends up in the right spot eventually ;) Thanks !
 
92Smith32
      ID: 396101713
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 15:08
My 3 player queue is loaded and ready to go for the 8/9 turnaround.
 
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:36
per post [78], IAC's queue should be ignored.
 
95deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:47
Guru - we're ready for 7-12 rationales thread.
 
98I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 17:55
Hmmm... not sure if I like the fact that my instructions were ignored for my queue. I haven't looked into the implications much, but what is the protocol in this situation?
 
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:13
I didn't make your pick. Some other DP must have done it, in spite of your message and mine.

If you want to change it, you have that right.
 
100Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:16
I stopped the draft until we sort it out.

Designated pickers - please check here BEFORE making any pick, just to make sure there are no clarifying instructions.

As an aside, since I expect to be around most of the time, if you plan to leave a queue with qualifications, you might consider naming only me as the DP. The only exception would be if I say that I'll be unavailable, or perhaps late at night.
 
101deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:19
I'd assumed IAC had made the pick since Guru was clear in post 93 that your instructions were to hold for round 9.

Please reverse my pick and make it available to IAC.
 
102I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:25
I'll need 15 min to get caught up in this draft... then I should have my answer.
 
103Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:34
OK. If you decide to change your pick, we will then give deepsnapper and holt the opportunity to change theirs.
 
104LetterJ
      ID: 547161112
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:34
sorry Ben...it was I that made your pick. I have been keeping up
with the draft via my IPhone as I do not have Internet access. I
did not check in here...but I was a DP, the pick made sense, and
I made it.
 
105I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:40
It's OK, no need to change the pick. Truth be told, I had a different strategy in place for my 9th pick (Thus why seeing that pick being made made me nervous), but since the draft fell the way it did, it actually went the same way I would have gone had I been at my computer.
 
106Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:56
draft resumed.
 
113deepsnapper
      ID: 3676299
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 19:51
all rationales through #112 have been moved.
 
117Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 21:24
I'm probably the only DP for Nerfherders (jrdoolit), but in case I'm not, I don't believe his current queue is intended for rounds 9-10.

He should be checking in sometime tonight, although it may be late.

At our average pace, we'll finish the draft on 8/31, so we're in excellent shape.
 
119I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 06:09
Like yesterday, please only use my queue for the first upcoming pick (10.11).

Thx
 
120Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 08:26
Queue ready for rnd. 10 only please
 
121Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 11:46
My queue is set for my 10th round pick only.
 
122Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 14:34
Thank you for making my pick.

I now have my queue set for round 11.
 
123 Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 15:17
Hey guys!

I'm going to post this in every RIFC league...

We need some help in G24. PD has missed two picks and is about ready to miss his third. We need someone outside the league to come in and make his picks for him. Ideally this person will also have a CBS account to make things easier. We have no idea when he will return. Send me a note if you'd like to assist. Thanks!
 
124Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 15:38
Queue is available for round 11.
 
125deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 16:33
you guys keep me buzy - post some rationales!
 
128Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 19:25
Sorry to butt into your draft thread, but I was wondering if there was anywhere I could look at player rankings from last year based on the RIFC scoring?
 
129Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 19:40
If your commish enters the scoring rules into fanball, it will calculate points based on last year's stats.
 
134Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 00:10
Queue ready for 12
 
136fugazi
      ID: 46750221
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 01:02
Left a queue for round 11 only.
 
137Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 05:30
I left a queue. Please take take two differents positions of IDP.
 
138Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 08:44
is it my imagination, or did this draft kind of grind to a halt?
 
139Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 10:36
My queue is set for my 12th round pick only.

Thx
 
140Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 10:39
Thanks to those of you who are keeping your rosters current at Fanball (about half of you).

I updated the rest this morning, so all rosters are now complete through pick 12.04
 
141Nerfherders
      ID: 42412622
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 12:36
Heading home in about an hour (at the airport). I might have some time tonight to catch up, or rather start on, rationales. Else I will do them tomorrow. Thanks Guru for keeping me going this week.
 
142Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 12:56
Nerf - I really appreciate your diligence in keeping things moving this week.
 
143holt
      ID: 15621316
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:18
will be back around 3:30 central. will catch up rationales then, and make my pick if it's back to me.
 
144deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:45
give me 5 min to catch up on picks this AM and I'll pick.
 
145Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 13:55
I have updated my queue to include my 13th round pick.

Thx again.
 
146Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 14:49
I my queue holds oout it can be used for round 13
If it gets back to me and is empty I'll be home in 4 or 5 hrs.
 
148deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 16:03
Unusual for IAC not to leave a queue. He must be planning on checking in soon.
 
149I_A_C
      ID: 447322215
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 16:35
Sorry guys... just travelled 1000k by car to attend my grandfathers funeral (last minute). I'll get my pick in shortly, and see if I can set a queue for my next one as well. Sorry again for the delay.
 
150Smith32
      ID: 396101713
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 16:58
Queue set for both picks on the 12/13 turn.
 
151deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 17:21
5 min & I'll pick.

Sorry for your loss I_A_C.
 
152deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 17:30
I'm posting placeholders to my RD 11 rationale so please don't step on me for a a few minutes. ;)
 
153Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 19:59
Queue ready for round 14.

I will get caught up on my rationals late tonight or tomorrow.
 
156I_A_C
      ID: 54722239
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 11:20
Hey Guys,

I got a queue in place for my 14.11. I'll try to refill it before 15.04.

thx
 
159deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 13:51
Great job of posting rationales guys. Keep it up.

LetterJ - If you can email your rationales easier than posting them here, I can post them from that. Whatever works best for you.
 
160Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 18:37
I will make my pick in just a few min.
 
162Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 20:16
I'm out for the evening...Queue is set for 15 ;actually if it makes it back to me and it holds out use it for 16 also. I'll probably won't check in again till late tomorrow morning.
 
164deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 22:40
I'm out for the night. Back in the AM.
 
167fugazi
      ID: 46750221
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 04:01
Left a queue for round 15 only.
 
168deepsnapper
      ID: 3676299
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 09:12
Guru - I'll stop at the end of this round of rationales so you can start a new thread. Sorry about that.
 
169Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 12:11
been a slow morning
 
170Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 13:21
[168] No apology needed. I'm thrilled to have you pitching in on a tedious task.
 
171Electroman
      ID: 12638144
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 13:33
Does the clock get cut down from 6 to 4 hours at some point in the draft? Or does it get cut down if we are behind schedual?
 
172Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 14:02
I could reduce it to 4 hours if we get behind schedule. But I've never had to do that in the past, and at our current pace, we will finish on Saturday. So it doesn't look like that will be necessary this time either.
 
174deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 17:26
Left a queue for round 16 only please.
 
175Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 21:04
Queue is ready for 17 and 18.
 
176LetterJ and IAC
      ID: 547161112
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 22:08
Trade announcement:

IAC's: 17.04 (Curry) & 18.11
For
LetterJ's: 17.10 & 18.05
 
177Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 22:42
trade processed
 
179Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 08:50
really behind on my rationales after doing so well. i will get caught up.
 
184holt
      ID: 15621316
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 13:18
will be back around 3:30 central. queue is set for rd 18 only. if it's close to 3:30 please let me make the pick myself. thanks.
 
185Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 13:54
I'll be out from about 4-8. I left a short queue, with Yokel as DP. Anyone else want to be a DP as well?
 
188I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 19:47
Here and picking shortly.
 
189I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 20:39
Sorry about the delays that I may have caused. Now that I'm back in town, I'll try to make longer queues from my computer. Oh... and I'll get to work very shortly on my rationales.
 
190holt
      ID: 15621316
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 21:06
left queue for my rd 18 pick (not 19 please).
 
191Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 21:35
We're now on pace to finish on Friday. Keep it up!
 
192deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 21:37
Left queue for RD 19 pick only please.
 
193Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 21:46
my queue is ready for 19
 
194Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 23:00
I have left a queue for rounds 18&19.
 
195deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:25
Bags must not have set his queue to available.
 
196deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:32
I sent Bags an email. I'm out from 10am-2pm CT. My queue for RD19 is good.
 
198Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:18
I forgot to turn on my queue after I set it last nite. Sorry.

I'm really am ready for my pick in round 19.

 
199Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:24
holt has a queue, but his post 190 suggests that it might still be the leftover of his round 18 queue, so I'm going to wait.
 
200Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:25
Once I pulled my head out of my butt the draft blew through 8 picks in about 5 min.
 
201Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:26
Crap, my fault, I didn't see the post Guru. Stop draft?
 
202Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:30
I checked his team before the pick to see if he could use a backup QB and he could, so perhaps he would have gone that direction anyway...
 
203Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:31
I'll try to email him.
 
204Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:36
Yokel has a queue as well, but I want to wait awhile first to see if holt confirms his pick.

Everyone - PLEASE DO NOT SELECT FROM A QUEUE WITHOUT FIRST CHECKING THIS THREAD.
 
205Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 425869
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 11:38
well, I went ahead and picked from my own queue before first checking this thread. no problem if I have to re-pick. I'll check back after lunch.
 
206holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 13:10
it's alright - no prob on the queue use.
 
207tree on the treo
      ID: 236113120
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 14:18
guru...id like to draft a player not listed...what is the procedure?
 
208Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 14:51
Tell me who it is, and I'll request the addition at kafenatid. In the meantime, we should pick a placeholder - someone who would otherwise not be drafted at all.
 
209Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:01
We can use Von Hutchins as a placeholder. He's out for the season. Draft him, and declare him at the position of your target player.
 
210Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:06
it's a bit of a reach, but we'll see.

Michael Strahan - DL, NYG

i made the request to kafenatid already, but it was only earlier today.
 
211Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:22
Strahan is already available.
 
212Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:31
then it must have been added in the time since i emailed, and since i looked an hour ago.

can that change be made?
 
213Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:36
it has been
 
214Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:49
queue is ready for round 20
 
215Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 15:56
thanks guru...
 
218holt
      ID: 15621316
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 20:39
left queue for rd 20 only
 
221Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 21:18
I am leaving a queue for round 20 only.
 
223deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 23:48
Did Bags make 21.03? His queue was for RD 20 only.

I'm leaving a queue for RD 21, but I'd hold off until we clear up who made Bag's pick.
 
224Slowhand
      SuperDude
      ID: 056744223
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 00:25
my queue is good for 21.
 
225holt
      ID: 15621316
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 02:43
my queue is good for rd 21 as well.

will catch up my rationales tomorrow (today). sorry for falling behind.
 
226I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 466141317
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 05:49
Unsure if I should make my pick based upon Posts 221/223, so I made my queue available for Guru/LetterJ once we've decided who made that pick.
 
227Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 08:32
According to the system, Bags made his own pick in round 21 (or at least, it was made by someone using his account), so I assume it is OK.
 
229deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 08:58
Thanks Guru. Just trying to keep it copasetic.
 
230Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 09:46
I appreciate the diligence.
 
234Slowhand-at-work
      ID: 206393114
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 12:46
My queue can be used for any round.
 
236Bags @ work
      ID: 206162514
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 14:11
I have a queue ready for round 22.

Yes, I made my pick in round 21. Sorry for any confusion.
 
238deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 15:37
queue available for round 22.
 
239deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 17:49
queue available for round 23
 
240Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Wed, Aug 27, 2008, 17:58
queue available for round 23
 
245Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 15:02
As we complete the draft, a few notes on the next steps:

1. Please complete your remaining rationales ASAP and post them here.

2. Go to the Fanball site and fill up your rosters with your draftees.

Once Fanball rosters are set, I will lock all rosters and we will have a period of approx 2 days during which you can submit free agent claims. Claiming priorities will be based on the even round draft order. After claims are processed, free agent add/drops transactions will be allowed (although any players dropped via the claiming process will go through a 2-day waiver period.)
 
246deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 17:05
Draft Rationales Rounds 1-6

Draft Rationales Rounds 7-12

Draft Rationales Rounds 14-18

Draft Rationales Rounds 19-24

(for research purposes only)
 
250Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 28, 2008, 22:23
letterj - when you accepted the invitations to the RIFC, you accepted the commitment to provide rationales. The draft is almost over, and you haven't yet produced any.

I still expect them all!

fugazi - you're not much better. You've only turned in two rationales (Round 1-2).

Tree - delinquent from round 7 on

holt - delinquent from round 8 on


Everyone else is current through at least round 19. Thanks.

Let's get these all completed by the weekend.

 
254Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 00:25
I would love to make my last pick tonight.

A DP can use my queue to make my last one for me.
 
255fugazi
      ID: 46750221
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 01:52
Sorry guru. I have just been very busy. I will try to get them done by the weekend.
 
258LetterJ
      ID: 547161112
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 15:53
Guru,

Sorry for my deliquency...will have them all posted by Tuesday.
I have been without Net access for a while now and then as IAC
posted, we lost our grandfather.

I apologize to ALL for slowing down the draft and for NOT
fulfilling my obligations vis-a-vis draft rationales. I always
personally enjoy reading them and am sure some are
disappointed in me. I am disappointed in myself... :-(
 
265Bags
      ID: 23412218
      Fri, Aug 29, 2008, 21:47
Taking bets on who I drop from my roster first?
Put your money on Jesse Chatman .
 
266Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 13:33
Thanks to those who filled up your team rosters at Fanball. I just finished the job for the four teams who failed to do so.

Rosters are currently locked. Please review your Fanball roster and report any discrepancy, so that I can correct it before the claiming deadline.

You may now place a claim on any free agent. Claim priorities are in the reverse order of the first round of the draft. If you are unfamiliar with the fanball claiming setup, this would be a good time to poke around, even if you do not plan to submit any claims.

Claims will be processed at noon ET on Tuesday, Sept. 2nd. About one hour later, free agents will be available for pickup. Dropped players (whether via claims or F/A pickup) will be subject to a 48 hours waiver period.
 
267Nerfherders
      ID: 64532914
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 13:38
Are we going to do draft recaps? Those are always fun.
 
268Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 30, 2008, 14:10
Draft recap thread
 
269tree
      ID: 46713110
      Sun, Aug 31, 2008, 12:31
it has been an insane week for me guys. sorry for being so behind on my rationales. i will catch up during this week...
 
272holt
      ID: 108216
      Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 07:09
sorry so late on rationales. wasn't intentional. recently picked up a used jag. the stereo doesn't work, cruise doesn't work, needs new tires, paint... the windshield washer doesn't seem to be working exactly right. oh, and the antenna too. it's annoying and I'm obsessing about it. been having to throw most of my spare time into research and ebay. it's not a good excuse, but thought I'd better explain.
 
274Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 23:15
Inteeresting that Hardy went so late...

Guru, are you planning to do the avg draft pick spreadsheet again from all RIFC leagues? Dunno why I find that so interesting...but I do.
 
275Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 01, 2008, 23:16
I posted it several days ago...

consolidated draft analysis
 
304Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Sep 04, 2008, 10:20
All rationales are now posted except for a boatload of them from Tree....
 
305Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 11:31
Tree...?

 
306Tree
      ID: 5082469
      Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 12:14
i'm sorry Guru. it's definitely been more insane than i expected...i'm also on the road again this weekend, but i'm going to bring my laptop and try to write the things while in the car (i'm a passenger, not a driver)....
 
307Tree
      ID: 5584170
      Sun, Sep 07, 2008, 01:59
here's a few more:
7.12 Jeremy Shockey, TE, NO
I had decided to fill the WR/TE flex spot at this point, and looking around, there weren’t any WRs i really wanted to take here. There were some decent WR3s still out there, but i felt the production potential of Shockey with Brees throwing to him outweighed any of the other WRs left. Also – both of the guys picking between this and my next pick had 3 WR and zero TE, so i felt that a TE was more apt to go to one of them.

8.03 Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ind
As fast as WR were going, i felt i had to grab someone for my bench. I had looked at Gonzalez with my previous pick, but went TE for the reasons above. Since he was still available here, it seemed a no brainer.

9.12 Ahmad Bradshaw, RB, NYG
Perhaps a huge stretch here, but i was feeling desperate for a bye week RB, and there wasn’t anyone left. That’s all this was – a desperation pick, and i hope i don’t regret it.

10.03 Seattle Seahawks, D, Sea
Nearly half the teams had defense at this point, and while i was looking at who was left, i saw Seattle was still available. I don’t think they get much recognition, but i also think that’s going to change this season. I think they’re going to be one of the top Defenses available, so i snagged them.

11.12 Michael Boley, LB, Atl
It was at this point that i really needed to start getting some IDPs, because they were going quick. In fact, i was surprised at how quickly many of them had been drafted, so i knew i would be grabbing some LBs for this pick and the next, and I would get the best available. Here, it was Boley.

12.03 Thomas Howard, LB, Oak
No different than the previous rationale. I just knew i had to go with who i felt was the best one. Hopefully, Howard fits that bill…
 
308Tree
      ID: 13714198
      Thu, Sep 11, 2008, 10:16
getting there...

13.12 Kerry Rhodes, DB, NYJ – still on my IDP run, it was time to grab a DB. Not only was Rhodes one of the best available, to me, he’s one of the best period, so this was a no brainer.

14.03 Steve Slaton, RB, Hous - time to go back on the offensive. I’m not pleased with my RBs at all at this point. Barber is a great pick, but his health is obviously a concern. Maroney is a satisfactory #2, although he seems to consistently underproduce. And Bradshaw is far from an ideal bye week back. Lo and behold, sleeper Steve Slaton is still available, and even though he’s an undersized rookie, he’s got potential for a lot of playing time, so he seemed like the easy pick here.

15.12 Josh Morgan, WR, SF - with Owens, Bowe, and Gonzalez, I am pretty happy with my top 3 WR. It was time to grab another, and I went with Morgan. He was pretty hyped in the pre-season, so I’m hoping that hype comes to fruition.

16.03 JT O’Sullivan, QB, SF - needed to get my QB2 here. Getting a decent second QB can be tough in a league this deep. O’Sullivan is totally unproven, but Mike Martz’ system has turned grocery store bag boys into MVPs, and O’Sullivan’s game play and style fit into that system well. A little bit of a crap shoot here, but by the time Cutler’s bye week comes up, I’ll know whether I can play O’Sullivan, or need to grab someone else.

17.12 Tim Hightower, RB, Ari - jeez. Three of my last four picks are rookies, and the fourth is an unproven QB with little experience. Talk about boom or bust. Anyway, in deep leagues, a lot of RBs help. At least I’ve always felt that way, and Hightower’s got nice projections. He actually projects as an every down back, and he’s playing behind a 30-year-old who has averaged well over 300 carries per season, so I think Hightower’s got a huge chance to be starting by mid-season.