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Subject: RIFC 2009: Draft Rationales #1 (Rounds 1-12)


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 16:52

This thread will be for managers in the 2009 RotoGuru Invitational Football Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick.

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Please keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

If possible, please post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make each pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale. Simply post
for Guru
1.13 Randy Moss
3. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Adrian Peterson, RB, Min
Several sentences of rationale.

As part of your first round rationale, please comment on your selection of draft sequence.
 
1wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 12:27
1.01 Adrian Peterson RB Minnesota Vikings

I picked the first slot in the draft mainly because of two reasons- number 1 reason is I will be away for 12 days and I will be having someone helping me pick- This will allow me to pick 2 times in a row. The 2nd reason is I love having AP on my team, he carried me last season and I am hoping he can again this season. I am expecting big things from AP- especially with Favre there throwing the ball i do not expect the defense can stack the box which should help his numbers even more.

 
2I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 17:12
Pick 2: I was on vacation and, for simplicity, I told Guru to give me the earliest spot available. I was surprised to get #2. I probably would have picked that spot anyhow. I like picking early - you get the best of the best, and usually 2 top-tier guys in rds 2 and 3 before it usually gets murky in the middle of the 3rd. I've done well enough from the #1 and #4 spots in the previous two RIFCs to stay around, so I'll stick with what works.

1.02 Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, JAX
I think pretty much every cheat sheet I saw had ADP, MJD, Turner, and Forte in the top 5 (with a few working SJax and LT into the mix), so I planned to take one of them. I don't think anyone had Forte above MJD, so that meant I had to decide between MJD and Turner. Turner has "the curse of 370" touches looming and I think the Falcons have a much more difficult schedule this year. MJD has been a valuable fantasy asset for several years, and I think the departure of Fred Taylor should give him the opportunity to challenge ADP for the top spot in RB scoring.

 
3I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 17:13
1.03 Michael Turner, RB, ATL

Other than ADP, I wasn't sure which RB stood out to me. MJD is for sure a great talent, but I felt too squeemish to pay 1.02 price for him. Turner however, was a beast last year, and should prove to fill that RB1 role without too much issue. A lot of people are talking about his 376 carries last year... but it was really his first year carrying such a big load, so I'm not overly worried.
 
4youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:05
for sR
1.04 Matt Forte, RB, Cho
My favourite #14 slot was taken and having a foursome top tier RB, it seemed ideal picking at #4.

I'm happy with Forte. He was a workhorse last season and his 3.9 yards per carry should improve after the Bears upgraded their offensive line. With a franchise QB in town, a legitimate passing threat should allow Forte to improve on his production.

 
5youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:06
for SwinganaMiss
1.05 L Tomlinson
Choosing 3rd for draft spot, I had 6 RB that I considered top-tier. I would've taken 6 if it was available, and taken what was left. However, that spot was gone. I figured to be picking from the same tier of WR in the second round as long as I didn't get too close to the 2-3 turn.

From the fifth spot I was choosing between LT and Steven Jackson as the last two of my top-most tier. I had seen LT anywhere from 4 to 9 in various drafts, so I had a good feeling he'd be available at 5. He was actually 3rd in my rankings so I went there. I couldn't see taking anyone beyond these two as they are not in RBBC and no real TD vulture is looming. Here's hoping he stays healthy on a quality offense(SJs problem) and produces like a top-5 back.

 
6youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:06
for culdeus
1.06 DeAngelo Williams, RB, Car
To me you have two ways you can play this league. You can go for points or you can go for wins. To me this is first and foremost a points league. Two make the playoffs on PF and to that extent the record matters little. I think in one year I had the highest PF and only drew the 7th seed. Slow and steady wins the race.

So to this end I slotted RBs that fell into a certain slot.

1) Have less than 1000 carries theoretically at end of year
2) Youngish
3) Quality goal line carries

To me that list was

ADP (Now with Farve value falls at least somewhat)
MJD
DAW
Turner (Though worried about workload)
Forte
Johnson

That's why I took 6th being mostly indifferent about these 6 (after ADP, obviously). The Farve signing also made the 6th pick much more valuable over the 1st pick at least in my estimation. Farve will have to get his numbers and his INTs will take away carries from ADP.

I cut LT and SJ in the end as the injury/mileage risk is just too high, but LT went 5th anyways. Nobody else on my board really had upside to place them top 6 and the step down from there in my mind is pretty big.

 
7youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:06
for BoNka
1.07 S Jackson
When I took the 7th pick I was hoping on a longshot one of my top 5 RBs would fall to me, otherwise Id choose between C. Johnson and D. Williams. I also liked my position for the 2nd round as I figured itd be about the cutoff for 1 or 2 position tiers. As it turned out, SJax was still there and I happily took him for the second year in a row at 1.07. I liked his upside more than Johnson (RBBC, lose goal line TDs) and Fitzgerald (Warner needs to stay healthy, Madden cover). Hes only played 12 games each of the past 2 years, but if he can stay healthy the offense runs entirely through him and can easily be a top 5 RB.
 
8youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:06
for fugazi
1.08 Drew Brees, QB, NO
I took the eighth slot simply because I have never drafted in the middle and wanted to try it. I had seen LT fall to the eighth pick in some drafts and was kind of hoping the same might happen here. So after LT went off the board. there were six to eight running backs that I liked and did not care which one I drafted. I felt it was too early to take a WR. So I thought about trading my pick. Then I stated looking at QBS. Obviously Brees, Brady and manning were the leading candidates. Brady and his knee were a bit scary for me. So it came down to Manning or Brees. After much debate and web surfing the deciding factor was schedule. I felt the Saints schedule was the weaker of the two. So here I am with Drew Brees as my first pick. Have to say I did not see this one coming but it just felt right.
 
9youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:07
for letterj
1.09 Chris Johnson, RB, Ten
Johnson is an immensely talented player with blazing speed, see a 4.24 40m at the Combine last year. With that kind of speed, he can take it to the house everytime he touches the ball.

Despite getting fewer than 20 carries in all but one game last year, Johnson still managed to rush for a little over 1200 yards with 10 TDs. Coach Fisher has gone on record as saying that the Titans are going to expand their use of Johnson. Given that, this manager believes that Johnson will improve upon last years numbers. I see this as a safe pick, with some upside from this draft spot.

 
10youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:07
1.10 Larry Fitzgerald, WR, ARI
after the 10th draft spot was selected for me, I made a quick look if there would be a servicable RB left for this pick and I ended up with nobody that was worth it here. I will get one from the next tier in round 2.
never thought about QB here. this is always too early, even for a Brees, Brady or Manning.
so I had to take the best WR in the game: Larry Fitzgerald showed in last years playoffs what he can do. he will get the same passes, from the same aging QB with the same WR lining up on the opposite side, which means he should produce at a similiar level than last year. and I am not talking about his playoff performances. I am satisfied if he repeats the regular season performance of 2008.
 
11Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 19:24
1.11 Calvin Johnson, WR, Det

When it was my turn to select draft positions, only two were available - 10th and 11th. I ended up with 11th because it was closer to the end. In the later rounds, this generally allows me to sequence my pair of picks based on what the three guys who pick after me need. Of course, I'm somewhat regretting this selection in retrospect as youngroman - the recipient of my leftovers - was able to nab Larry Fitzgerald with his first pick.

As far as my pick, I almost made a huge blunder. Fortunately, Bags who picked after me didn't jump in to pick immediately after I timed out on my first round pick. (thanks, once again) Basically, I got too caught up in work, and forgot to check in on the draft most of the day. So, realizing what had happened and starting to sweat bullets, I saw my clock had elapsed, so I needed to pick immediately. Like I said, I was targeting Fitzgerald here - with him not available, and none of the running backs standing out to me, I decided to stay the WR-route. Calvin Johnson is of course an immense talent, but doesn't have a sure thing at QB. Still, his numbers were pretty huge last year despite the lack of solid qb play.
 
12Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 23:39
for Bags
Pick 12: Just wanted a pick towards the end. I picked 3rd last year, we'll see if the bottom is kind to me this year.

1.12 Steve Slaton, RB, Hou
I had considered taking a WR here but just couldn€™t get past the thought of not having a solid RB on my team. Slaton averaged almost 14 points per game but in the last five games of the season jumped up to 16.5 ppg. I guess by taking him here I have faith that the 16.5 ppg potential can be done over a full season.

 
13Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 23:40
Pick 13 – I was actually hoping for pick 14, but that option was snatched away. And I was thinking of possibly taking two stud WRs with my first two picks. My history suggests that my early round RBs have disappointed, and my later round WRs have been inferior. So I figured maybe I would pass on the early RBs and rummage for those later (as I usually do anyways), and instead bulk up on top tier WRs. Still, if a decent RB is available, I might go WR/RB.

1.13 Randy Moss, WR, NE
With two picks to go before mine, my short list was Moss and Slaton. If they had both gone, then I’d probably have taken one of the Johnsons at WR.

Here’s hoping that Brady can stay healthy.
 
14beastiemiked
ID: 35621411
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 00:18
Pick 14I love picking on the ends. It saves time not having to look at the teams picking behind you to see if you can slip a guy into the next round. I also felt this year there was very little distinction between guys going in the 1st 15-20 picks.

1.14 Andre Johnson, WR, HOU I knew I wanted a top tier receiver this go round. Johnson was the clear cut best available WR. If he was gone I'm not sure what I've would've done. Probably would've went with RB/QB I don't think RB/RB in round 1 and 2 is a very good plan because you can only start 2 RB's and there are always decent RB's still available in round 3 and 4.

2.01 Frank Gore, RB, SF I'm not too excited about this pick. Most mocks have him in the top 8 so it would've been really hard to pass on him here. I'm a little worried that his receiving #'s nose dived towards the end of the season last year. In any case, he'll be getting a lot of touches so as long as his Rush avg is 4+ he should be a stud. I considered going with Brady here but he's too big of a question mark.

 
15Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 08:12
2.02 Brandon Jacobs, RB NYG
Last year, only one WR was taken in the first 15 picks. This year, four are already gone. I had thought about taking WRs with my first two picks, but that would have depended on getting two of the top four.

So I’ll guess I’ll go traditional and take a RB. Had Gore survived to this pick, I’d have taken him – but I’m OK with that, as I already have him in a keeper league. So my choice comes down to Portis or Brandon Jacobs. I’ll opt for younger of the two, and hope that he can stay reasonably healthy while punching in double-digit TDs.
 
16youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:15
for Bags
2.03 B Westbrook
My original plan was to take Jennings here. I decided to go with my 2nd RB when Westbrook fell. He can produce like one of the elite RB if he can stay healthy.
 
17youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:15
for Slackjawed Yokel
2.04 Marion Barber, RB Dal
Having picked a WR in the first round, I never really wavered from picking a RB here. Prior to bmd's picks on the turn I decided I'd go for Jacobs or Barber. When I got home and started to do some more rigorous research (and seeing Guru had picked Jacobs), I actually thought Westbrook would make a better pick here. I left a two-man queue of Westbrook and Barber - so of course Westbrook was taken by Bags. I had Barber last year in RIFC with my first round pick (7th overall). Barber actually had a great start to the season last year - but injuries towards the end of the year killed his production. This year more of a timeshare is expected - but maybe that will help him stay healthy. He should remain the goal line back and he's always been a good TD producer.
 
18youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:25
2.05 Clinton Portis, RB, WAS
as always, you need to get a RB in one of the first 2 rounds. I took a WR in round 1, so it was RB in round 2.
I loaded my queue just after Guru picked and sorted my 3 choices in this order:
1. Brian Westbrook
2. Marion Barber
3. Clinton Portis

all 3 won't be the lone featured back. all 3 have some young guns waiting to take over. not even a crystal ball can help me at this point to figure out which one of the 3 will be the best, if healthy all year.

guess what. Westbrook and Barber got picked in front of me, so I ended up with Portis. no need to decide which one to pick.

The Redskins want to play #undrafted# more this year because he is a special player according to the coaches. this reminds me of te LT/Sproles tandem in SD. with fewer carries he should be fresher at the end of games, or even the end of the season. and this is the time where it counts. we will see if I am right.

note: when Guru thinks of him a few picks earlier, this pick can't be too bad.
 
19SwinganaMiss
ID: 40239148
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:32
2.06 Tom Brady, QB NWE
(traded from Letter_J)

Going into the draft I had no intention of taking a top QB. I was expecting to pick from a few similar WRs with this pick and get a QB a few/several rounds down the road. Last year I waited to get a QB until round 11 (Rivers) and also was fortunate to grab Warner even later.

When Letter_J's pick came up and he dangled the carrot of a trade, I had just seen the last 3 tier-two RBs on my board go before him. The only player left in my "wishful-thinking" queue for 2.10 was Brady. I tried a few 2nd/3rd/5th swap scenarios and they seemed either neutral or favorable to me, so I agreed to it. Of course this is based on Brady staying healthy, which I wasn't worried too much about. It wasn't until after I picked him that I started hearing talk about what a risky pick he is.
 
20Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:56
for fugazi
2.07 Thomas Jones
I had Thomas last year and he was fantastic! I'm hoping he will put up similar numbers to last year but who knows with the new QB and all. Still looking over the RB'S that were left Jones seemed to be the best pick. Sure there were some great WR'S sitting there. But I felt that Jones would score more points than any of the wide outs. Besides that it sounds like Jones will handle all the goal line duties.
 
21Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 11:57
2.08 Reggie Wayne, WR, IND

As the 2nd round progressed, I had my sights on Brady, Portis, Wayne, and Jennings, in that order. If Brady or Portis weren't there, I was definitely going WR because the RB dropoff is pretty bad and the next tier of QBs is a toss up. I had considering offering a trade to move up 2 slots to grab Brady but figured no deal would be reached as it was over 2 hours and that Brady would still be there when it came to me (if letterj wanted Brady he would have taken him off the bat). So I was pretty bummed how that all ended and went with Wayne. I expect him to have another consistent season with Manning still there.
 
23I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:05
for culdeus
2.09 Greg Jennings, WR, GB
Pick went according to plan, but was close. Counted on two guys making a reach in order to get a tier two WR to pair with a tier one RB. Only Fugazi stepped out of the 2nd round with his pick, but that was enough to avoid having to pair DAW with Smith at the end of that WR tier. Fairly big drop in talent after that point.

Thought trade was super risky. Basically saying no interest in a big risk/reward QB to pray that nobody grabs the last RB left before a big dropoff. That was the natural place for Brady to go, and figured as much. Didn't prevent Bonka from dreaming though:-D. Draft has been sort of a snooze both pace wise and pick wise to this point. Playing out like some magazine mock draft for the most part.

 
24I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:06
for letter j
2.10 Ronnie Brown, RB, MIA
I attempted to trade down and was successful in doing so because I just could not bring myself to draft a QB this early and saw some talent at the RB slot which would still be remaining, provided I did not move down too much.

The good: Brown - an elite talent formerly drafted second overall in the NFL draft - has a good offensive line. The downside: Brown has only played 51 games over his four seasons.

It has been reported that Brown showed up for training camp in great shape; in fact, the best shape of his life. If he stays healthy, I see no reason for Brown not to post top-10 RB numbers.

 
25I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:06
for s R
2.11 Marques Colston, WR, NO
Colston closed out the 2008 season with 22 receptions, 306 yards and four touchdowns in the final three games and this success should continue in 2009. The Saints should throw the ball about as much as any other team and Colston is Drew Brees' favorite target.
 
26I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:07
2.12 Peyton Manning, QB, IND

Interesting how Peyton is the 3rd QB off the board. I was very much considering moving up to letterj's spot to draft Brady, but held back hoping that Manning would fall to me here. IMHO I see him as THE most consistent/safe elite QB of the 3. I've gotten burned a fair bit over the last few years with my QB picks, so it felt ok to solidify that problem area early.
 
27Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 14:50
2.13 Steve Smith, WR, CAR

With 3 picks left before this pick, I left a queue consisting of Colston, Smith, White, and Boldin. Colston, Smith and White are all pretty equal to me. Smith puts up great numbers when healthy and not punching his 'mates in the face - he averaged over 100 yds per game in the 14 he played last season. He did suffer an injury already this pre-season, but it does not seem serious and I figure 2.13 is a discounted price for someone with his talent.
 
28for wiggs
ID: 4110411910
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 14:51
2.14 Roddy White, WR, ATL

I took Roddy White here against my better judgement. I was hoping to get a QB here, possibly manning. I went with what i considered the best available WR at this point and I am hoping with the addition of Tony Gonzalez it will improve his numbers even more.
 
29for wiggs
ID: 4110411910
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 14:52
3.01 Kevin Smith, RB, DET

Very hard decision here, I really didnt know what way to go with this pick. I was back and forth between Smith, Ryan Grant and Pierre Thomas. I went with Smith because I do not see him losing many carries to anyone else. Thomas will be losing carries to Bush and Grant did not impress me much last season. I am hoping for about 1100 yards and 10 TDs out of Smith.
 
31Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 15:03
3.02 Anquan Boldin, WR, ARZ

The queue I mentioned in 2.13 actually had 7 players to cover this pick as well, but the other 3 were not needed. Boldin had 1000+ yds and 11 TDs last year despite missing time after being beheaded in Week 4. If he and Warner can stay on the field for the entire season, he should be a top-10 WR.

Of note, the other 3 in my queue were Peyton, Ryan Grant and Pierre Thomas. Time will tell if I should have taken one of the running backs instead of Boldin here - is Boldin/Rice better than Grant/A Gonzalez?
 
32for IAC
ID: 4110411910
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 15:04
3.03 Pierre Thomas, RB, NO

I was really considering Thomas with my last pick, but wanted to make sure I had my QB first. Thomas apparently did serious gym work this off-season, and bulked up BIG time. I gotta respect a guy that can squat 675lbs (up from 495)... that's some serious power in those legs! This should lead to a big jump in his TD #s, and he's already showed himself to be a reliable potential 3 down player.
 
33sR
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:55
3.04 Ryan Grant, RB, GB

I don€™t have any doubt that the Packers run game will be more effect this season, so Grant should get quite a few carries. He says his legs are strong and his explosiveness is back.
 
34letterj
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:58
3.05 Terell Owens, WR, Buf
One of the best receivers to ever play the game, Owens posted over a 1000 yds and 10 TD in Dallas last year. Moreover, Owens has finished as a Top 5 WR in 7 of his 13 NFL seasons, and has been a Top 10 WR in 7 of the last 8 seasons where he has not been injured.

Despite being 34 years of age, he is still in unbelievable shape. While he, at times, can be an absolute idiot, he NORMALLY behaves in his first year with a team. As such, I drafted him here believing he will be a Top 10 WR.

 
35culdeus
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:59
3.06 Dwayne Bowe, WR, KC
Seemed safe pick here. RB value was a little low and this wasn't year to really stretch on a QB. Might improve with new QB and should at least get more targets and RZ targets with Gonzo gone. Meh, whatever.

This round seemed to go mostly to ADP as well. Sproles represented first semi-major reach even with kr/pr points. I usually think it's super risky to count on an offensive guy having that role the whole season. Much better to target the idps for that role.

 
36Bonka
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:00
3.07 Wes Welker, WR, NE
Looking to grab a WR or RB at this slot initially, when it came time to pick I wasn't really sure what to do. The guys I had interested in went in the first 4 picks this round and I started thinking about going with Rodgers but didn't want to grab a 2nd tier QB this early. After deciding to wait on (hopefully) good QB value later in the draft, I went with Welker since he should easily go over 1000 yards again and hopefully back to his TD numbers from 2 years ago with Brady playing.
 
37fugazi
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:01
3.08 Reggie Bush, RB, NO
I really wanted my second RB here. So why did I pick Bush? At the time it seemed like the best pick. Now I just don't know what I was thinking. Reggie has the potential to be a great asset or a tremendous flop. The saints high powered offense made Reggie very appealing. Still I'm not sure if i did the right thing here. Only time will tell.
 
38SwinganaMiss
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:02
3.09 T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Sea
I had originally intended to take a second RB here(even after taking Brady in Rd 2), but I wasn't enamored with any of them once it came to this pick. The only one that stuck out even a little bit was McFadden, but he was just one of 7-8 on the same tier. I decided to hold off and see what was left in the next round.

So, I started looking at WR. I considered a number of different options here, but in the end I went with TJ. After a couple of 'risky' picks, I wanted someone who can be consistent. Not a flashy pick. Probably not going to be a breakout top 5 receiver, but hopefully he'll be solid.

 
40youngroman
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:04
3.10 Chad OchoCinco fka. Johnson, WR, Cin
usually there are some ways to go after WR/RB in rounds 1 and 2:
a. 2nd RB
b. top TE
c. top QB
d. 2nd WR

I couldn't find a RB worth taking here. Too many out there with equal talent. All with question marks: RBBC, age, injury risk, ... so I better pass. maybe next round.

no TE was taken yet. not Witten, not Gates, not Gonzalez. I would take them in this order, but I already took the first WR off the board, so I don't want to take the best TE off the board. so thin the TE position might be, many still available players will outproduce the top TE and I am searching for best player without looking at position with this pick.

the QBs next in line are Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers and Kurt Warner. I like Rodgers the most, but would also be happy with either Romo or McNabb. at least one of these QBs will make it back to my 4th pick, so I pass.

this leaves me with the WR position. there are many different ways to go, but I think that Ochocinco will play like his old self, from the times where he was known under a different name. in his 1st official season with his new name on the jersey he wants all the world to see how good the 85 is. and the last training camp reports look promising. welcome Mr. Stud WR!

question: do I get kicking points for him if he takes over the kicking duties in the regular season?

 
41Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:05
3.11 Darren McFadden, RB, Oak

I don't know why I bothered, but even before it reached the 3rd round a made a list of top receivers that were still out there that I'd like for this pick. Naturally, they were all long gone well before it got to my pick. I still thought there were some good receiver/TE options, but thought these were pretty balanced and could wait until the 4th round. So, I decided to grab my second RB. As far as RB's go, all the sure bets are gone. So, it came down to backs with either injury issues or uncertain roles - or, in the case of McFadden, both. In the end, I thought his upside was too great. We'll see how he holds up this year - I think if he can stay healthy this pick could be huge (unfortunately, that's a big 'if'...).
 
42Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 00:49
for Bags
3.12 Aaron Rodgers QB GNB
I would have taken a WR here if one of the previous four had made it to me. I thought about getting Romo but it would have been a bit of a reach even for a Cowboy fan. Rodgers was the way to go.
 
43Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 00:51
3.13 Jason Witten, TE, Dal
My oldest son, Jason, is getting married this weekend, and I’m currently at the hotel after the rehearsal dinner as this pick is due. So why not pick someone named Jason?

Everyone else on my short list was taken – as expected. Witten could produce close to as much as the currently available WRs this year, so I’ll go that way.

 
44beastiemiked
ID: 35621411
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 02:06
3.14 Darren Sproles, RB, SDG

He was the 23rd RB taken. He was 15th last year in scoring for RB's. He's going to get a lot more touches this year so I see no reason why he shouldn't be top 15 again this year if healthy.

4.01 Phillip Rivers, QB, SDG

I hate picking guys from the same team especially back to back. However, Rivers stuck out from the rest of the QBs. I felt I had to take a QB here or else I'd be stuck with a 3rd tier guy which would force me to waste another pick on a backup sooner than if I picked a QB now. Romo was the only other guy I considered. If Warner had a health guarantee I would've picked him without thinking.

 
45Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 08:08
4.02 Marshawn Lynch, RB, Buf
I thought about Knowshon Moreno here. He’s a highly touted rookie on a team with no continuity at coach or QB, and while he might turn out to be the better pick, he cold also be riding the pine by October, plus he’s currently out with a sprained MCL. Lynch will sit out the first three weeks, but at least I’ll have him fresh heading into the bye week period, so I’ll just have to cover for him until then. I decided to opt for the devil I know.

My sense is that Lynch would have gone two rounds earlier without the suspension, so I’m getting a discount for those three goose eggs. Here’s hoping he comes online with a vengeance in week 4.

 
46Bags
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 09:39
4.03 Roy Williams, WR, Dal
Homer pick! It helps that it fills a need. WR’s have flown off of the board and I need to get a WR quick. Don’t know what to expect but Roy will be a key piece to the Cowboys offense if they want to make the playoffs.
 
47Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 09:42
4.04 Antonio Gates, TE, SD

Part of my logic this year is you shouldn't mess with success. Picking a top TE has been huge for me the past two years. Gates struggled last year with several injuries but still was one of the top-producing tight ends. Word is he is healthy this year, and I was targeting him or Witten here. With Witten taken a couple of picks earlier, my decision was easy. (I was so set on a TE this pick, I actually left a queue that was Gates, Gonzalez, Dallas Clark...)
 
48youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 09:45
4.05 Tony Romo, QB, DAL
since my last pick, 2 of the 5 QBs I considered were gone. The best of the 3 remaining and the #2 on this list is Tony Romo. He won't have TO around any more, but why should he not click with Roy Williams? And don't forget that Jason Witten will always be a huge target to throw to. and Marion Barber will get some passes too. all in all I don't think that his production will decline much, if any.
 
49Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 13:01
4.06 Brandon Marshall, WR, Den
The last two seasons, Marshall has posted 9th and 11th WR numbers. However, it was another tumultuous off-season for Baby T.O. with off season hip surgery and he is now clamouring for a new contract.

While it's true that the new QB in Denver is no Jay Cutler, someone has to be the big play threat in the Broncos offense, and I believe that Marshall is going to be that cog. His floor is 1000 yds and 8TDs. His ceiling is much higher than that.

 
50Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 13:02
for fugazi
4.07 Tony Gonzalez
I wanted to draft a WR here. After looking over the available wideouts, I figured Gonz would score as many or more points than the WR'S on the board. I think Tony has a chance to be the #1 TE this season.
 
51Bonka
Sustainer
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 13:04
4.08 Joseph Addai, RB, IND

I'm not sure I had to go with a RB at this slot, but didn't know what would happen before my next pick and wasn't comfortable with just SJax going into the 5th round. I had a tough decision to make between a few guys which came down to Addai and Derrick Ward. I like Ward and I think he should do well in Tampa, but both are in RBBC as of right now and Ward isn't the starter yet. This pick could end up being sort of a boom or bust pick, so here's hoping to Addai staying healthy and not losing too much work to the rookie.

Wanted to add, after seeing the picks that went after this one, I was glad I took a RB because I didn't expect that many to go off the board.
 
52culdeus
ID: 40239148
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 17:08
4.09 Braylon Edwards, WR, CLE
Loved this pick. Was considering this in the 3rd. Seems to me to be excellent value. I think people that are in this league for the most part still remember the first couple years when RBs were not in committee and WRs were. This is changing. Star power in the NFL dictates WR get treatment from the refs which inflate their stats much like NBA and RBs are on a pitch count. Also people get hung up on 0ppr. This is also not an issue. It shifts the direction more towards the guys that get RZ targets, but TDs are hard to project for WRs.

A WR heavy draft really goes a long way to making headway in this league. Again being a primarily points league being able to look at 3 guys that 2 of 3 each week should bring in double digits is nice to have.

Nothing stood out in this round. The suspended or soon to be suspended guys were taken right about where people had them. They are not nearly as risky in this format and represent likely good value.

 
53SwinganaMiss
ID: 40239148
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 17:09
4.10 Larry Johnson, RB, KC

Maybe I should go grab my rationale from last year when I drafted LJ at 1.12. Some things are still the same: he's still the starter, his O-line is still suspect. Some things are different: a different suspect starting QB (I guess the new one is an upgrade), a new spread offense. So, I have mixed feelings about having LJ again. He was certainly more trouble than he was worth last year. However at the current price I was willing to give him a second chance. Hopefully the new offense will find ways to utilize him.

Leading up to this pick I was choosing from LJ, Addai, Moreno, Ward, and Ray Rice. I looked at 4-5 different sources and compared their rankings and it was still pretty even. Addai ended up being taken ahead of me. I had just heard someone talking about Graham still starting and taking some TD opportunities away from Ward, so I went with LJ.
 
54Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:05
for s R
4.11 Donovan McNabb, QB, PHI
The Eagles have a nice complement of weapons for McNabb, have rebuilt their offensive line and added a rookie receiver to the mix. I expect him to match his '08 numbers.
 
55Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:06
fir IAC
4.12 DeSean Jackson, WR, PHI
Starting to get into the next tier of WRs, I think Jackson has the definite chance to be a solid WR1. Last year, in his rookie season, he finished 13th in WRs, so he certainly isn't chump change, and should show greater maturity and targets this year as he has a full season in the West Coast offense under his belt.
 
56Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:07
4.13 Vincent Jackson, WR, SDG

While I like the #2 spot, I don't like having IAC and s_R in the #3 and #4 slots. From my prior years in the RIFC and QL, I feel like those guys draft as well as anyone. So this year, I get to watch them snatch the guys I want just before my turn, and then show me who I should have picked on the way back. Rd 4 was a perfect example - I was set to take McNabb or DeSean, and of course, neither made it to me. DeSean was an absolute steal if you adjust your cheat sheet for his punt return yards. But, enough about the Jackson I didn't get. The one I did is a 6-5 pass catching machine entering the last year of his rookie contract and seems to be building good chemistry with Rivers, especially as the other weapons in that offense are declining. ESPN doesn't think his DUI will cause him to miss time. Can I get 1000 yds and 10TDs from all three of my starting WRs?
 
57Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:07
for wiggs
4.14 Kurt Warner, QB, ARZ
I really thought Warner would be gone at this point, but i thought I would have a shot at either Romo or McNabb. I was pleasantly surprised to be able to pick Warner here. I believe that Arizona has one of the best, if not the best WR combo in football and someone is going to need to feed those receivers.
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58Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:08
for wiggs
5.01 Derrick Ward, RB, TB

Not sure how Ward will handle being a number 1 RB with the Bucs, but I am hoping for big things. I have always gone with 3 RBs in my 1st 5 picks in the RIFC and it has been paying off thus far. I had Ward as the best available so I took him.
 
59Smith32
ID: 4110411910
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 19:10

5.02 Ray Rice, RB, BAL

Wasn't sure what to do with this pick. Probably should have taken Warner at 4.13, but I guess I was thinking more about the 2007 Warner than the 2008 version. No QBs or TEs were looking particularly valuable, and I needed an RB2. I had Ray Rice last year as a handcuff, and neither him nor the guy I handcuffed had much value because of the 3rd option in the 3-headed monster. But, everything I've heard about Rice this year makes it sound like he's developed into a player that the Ravens can't afford to have on the sidelines. He supposedly has speed that leaves some of their star defenders "grasping at air". In a league with 14 skilled managers, sometimes you have to roll the dice - this seemed like a good risk/reward value in Rd 5.
 
60I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:10
5.03 Eddie Royal, WR, DEN

Eddie was first in my queue for the 4.12 pick, but I decided to hold off at that time due to the changes in the offence (It's funny, when you pick close to the turn, often times you get "the other guy" that you where considering just prior, thus it takes a little less research). Most people would say that he's a high risk to bust this year...That said, I'm hoping that he can come close to his production from his rookie season. If he does... this might be my best pick in the draft? Here's hoping.
 
61sR
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:27
5.04 Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ind
Gonzo II could be ready for a breakout in his magical third-year season. He steps into the starting spot, and Peyton Manning is comfortable with Gonzalez. He can line up inside/outside and racks up a lot of yards after the catch.
 
62letterj
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:27
5.05 Knowshon Moreno, RB, Den
After going RB, RB, WR, WR, I felt I had no choice but to select a RB here...Moreno's ADP is in and around 35-40, so it seemed like a good roll of the dice to select the former Georgia Bulldog (drafted #12 overall this year) 61st in the RIFC.

Knowshon is a gamebreaker and doesn't require a lot of carries to make big plays. From all I read, it's Moreno's job to lose in Denver and he is expected him to carry the full-time load this season. He even reminds some of Clinton Portis!!

I am frightened by having two Broncos on my fantasy team, however!!!

 
63culdeus
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:28
5.06 Beanie Wells, Rb, Az
Not a fan of this pick. Really thought Moreno would get to me with no issue at all. Quite upset with this and was playing defense from this point. Had I known Benson would still be there in the 7th I would have gone a different direction. So it goes. Watch Beanie outperform Moreno by 10 slots or more now.

I intend to look back at a few leagues and see what sort of mistake (if any) getting a 3rd RB so early is. My hypothesis would be having all those (theoretically solid) points on the bench week in and week out versus plugging those relative points in on a weekly basis would make. Really the bye thing should easily be overcome by a spot starter. The PPG gap that is given up in the subsequent 20 picks to the next starter is something that is quantifiable as well. I'll try to take a shot at that too.

 
64Bonka
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:29
5.07 Lee Evans, WR, Buf
Not sure how this selection is going to work out. There wasn't any player sticking out at me at this spot with good value since it was too early to go with any position but WR and none of those were going to be a sure thing. I decided to just go with Evans hoping that TO's presence and the no huddle will improve his numbers. I'm sure he'll get his yardage seeing more single coverage, I'm just worried that TO will take away quite a few TDs.
 
65fugazi
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:30
5.08 Santonio Holmes, WR, Pit
Since I did not have a WR yet I had to take one with this pick. So I was more than happy when Holmes made it to me. Even with an ailing QB Santonio should have a great season. I'm guessing 1100 yards and 7 td's. There were still some nice options at running back here. But I could not ignore the wideouts any longer.
 
66SwinganaMiss
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:30
5.09 Domenik Hixon, WR, NYG
Maybe it's a little early to be drafting a 'sleeper', but I'm going for it here. Someone has to catch the ball for NYG. He played pretty decent the last half of the year. He's been given a clear path to starting. He has big play capability. Last year he returned a few kicks. Seems like a lot of upside here.

A couple rounds down the road now, I'm a little more concerned about this pick. He was the highest on my sheet, but maybe my sheet is skewed. I see him anywhere from 20th to 42nd on various WR lists.I took him 25th, so we shall see.

 
67youngroman
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:31
5.10 Patrick Willis, LB, SF
I looked for a RB here, but noticing that all 4 teams picking twice before I am up again already have 2 RBs, I think I can wait, because the remaining RBs are pretty similar in level and one of them will be mine in round 6.

many if not all IDP-projectors see Patrick Willis as the #1. he was the clear choice because we are now approaching the area where not many players that are projected to score more than 150pts are available. Willis is one of them and I don't think that any of the top LBs would make it back to me in round 7.

I now picked the 1st WR and the 1st LB off the board. what position is next? I promise, it won't be a kicker.

 
68Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 21:32
5.11 Dallas Clark, TE, Ind

Back-to-back tight ends for me in rounds 4 and 5 - that has to be some kind of record. Like I said in Gates' rationale, I had a queue back then with Gates, Gonzalez, and Clark. Looking at the WR available, I thought Clark should be comparable. With Marvin Harrison gone, Clark will effectively man the third-receiver role in Indy. I expect him to improve on the 850 receiving yards and 6 TD's he got last year.
 
69Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 00:01
for Bags
5.12 Felix Jones RB DAL
Guess what? Another homer pick. Thought about Berrian here but decided to get a good back up RB in case Westbrook gets hurt. Not sure if it is smart to get a 3rd RB before my 2nd WR but it makes me feel better.
 
70Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 00:02
5.13 Matt Schaub, QB, Hou
Ranked as the #7 QB last season in fantasy pts/game, and returns this year with many of the same skill players in place. Durability is the biggest concern. I considered Cutler, but am unsure of his potential in Chicago. Considered Matt Ryan, but upon further study, realized his numbers were not quite as strong as I had thought (#18 QB in pts/game) – although he should do better in his second year.

Perhaps I should have taken a different position, but I wanted to land a QB here, and decided to go with my hunch, and hope for good health.
 
71beastiemiked
ID: 35621411
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 02:13
5.14 Steelers, D

I hate taking Team Defenses early but the steelers are on a tier by themselves. Their schedule is a joke. There's definitely a bit of luck for Team defenses but I'd be shocked if they didn't finish in the top 3. Seeing the difference in point values from the top tier defenses to defense ranked below the top 10 is eye opening. At this point, I had 2 RB's and took another one with my other pick. Only had 1 WR but was not worried as there were at least 10 WR's that I'd happily take next go round. Really wish Clark would've made it to me.

6.01 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL

Another "backup" Rb that will see an increased role this year. He's got crazy yardage per touch and will be getting a nice boost from kick return yards. There's also a chance he takes over at punt returns since Douglas is injured for the year. I wanted a 3rd RB that's very highly likely will be producing week in and out. His ceiling in the near future isn't sky high unless Turner gets injured but he's not going to suddenly fall out of the offense like other RB's drafted around here might.

 
72Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 08:22
6.02 Bernard Berrian, WR, Min
Averaged 9.8 fantasy points/g last season. With Brett Favre chucking them deep this year, I’m expecting upward potential.

Most of the other WRs I looked at here had bye weeks that collided with Moss (wk 8), so Berrian’s week 9 bye was the clincher.
 
73Bags
ID: 36241112
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 09:50
6.03 Hines Ward, WR, Pit
Old but steady. I would have liked the up side of Berrian here but I like the steady production Ward provides.
 
74Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 36241112
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 09:52
6.04 Donald Brown, RB, Ind

Ok, you can call me a homer. I do have season tickets this year for the Colts, just picked two Colts in a row, and may have slightly reached for Brown. But, I was fairly certain he wouldn't be available come the next round. From what I've seen in the preseason, he looks very good. It's a little strange that the Colts would draft a running back with Addai in his fourth season - but I expect they'll handle this like they did Addai's first season. Brown will spell Addai throughout the game and, of course, given Addai's injury-prown nature will probably get a start or two. By the end of the year, I suspect they'll essentially be splitting carries. Another thing to his advantage - in interviews I've seen with Brown, he seems real cerebral - so I suspect he will get along with and gain some valuable insight from his MVP quarterback.
 
75youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 09:59
6.05 Julius Jones, RB, SEA
I am the last one to take a 2nd RB. This is mainly because there were no RBs out there that were valuable enough for my previous picks. This time this is different. Teams are already drafting their 3rd RB and I fear that none of the worthy RBs will be available later.
the 1st thing I looked at is if the RB has a different bye than Portis. this reduced the number of candidates. the 2nd thing I looked at is competition at the RB position. I don't see an other RB competing with JJ. Seattle may not be the best running team, JJ may not be the best available RB at this point, but he will get the carries to reach 1000yds. I don't see many other options that can achieve that without an injury to a teammate.
 
76Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:35
for letter j
6.06 Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
I still felt like I was not adequately set up at the RB position and I believed that WR talent would be available in later rounds, so I decided to select another RB with HUGE potential upside.

The Panthers rushed the ball over 500 times last year!!! Thus, IF DeAngelo Williams were to get injured, Stewart - another former first round NFL draft pick - would have the value of a first round pick.

That said, as I write this, Stewart is experiencing some tenderness in his Achilles' tendon, but he is supposed to be ready for the regular-season opener. He may very well be the one with the injury problem....

 
77Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:35
for fugazi
6.07 Willie Parker, RB, PIT

I was looking to get another wide receiver with this pick. But when fast Willie was still sitting there in the sixth round I had to draft him. You could do a lot worse than Willie as your number three or two running back. Most of the cheat sheets have him much lower this year but I care not. Willie has blazing speed and is only getting better. I have a good feeling about this pick.
 
78Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:37
for BoNkA
6.08 Jay Cutler QB CHI
I probably would have taken RBs Parker or Stewart if they were available, but they went right in front of me. I was really hoping to hold out another round for a QB but I didn't know what would happen behind me, since I only had 2 of them targetted. Cutler is joining a pretty crappy Bears' offense and I'm not sure how it will play out during the season due to the lack of WR. However, he did just have a solid pre-season game and I know he can put up good numbers if the WRs can play up to it, so taking him here was based on that. I'm hoping for some deep balls to Hester for TDs.
 
79Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:38
for culdeus
6.09 Barrett Ruud LB TAM
Probably early for this pick. I really wanted to lock down this guy though. I see him as the surest thing in LB going. The LB top tier is really shaky this year in my mind except for Ruud. A huge number of guys can hit the top 10, more than ever before so wanted to go LB early and then sit back awhile and pick at the guys that have strong upside.

This round had a couple head scratchers. Jooles Jones for one. That guy is undraftable in my book. The fact that they dug up the rotting corpse of Edge to come take over there says a lot. I don't think this pick was made prior to the signing, but it was already being rumored. I thought the number of RB flyers going off around now was extremely high. Lots of these guys aren't really set up to be in a good situation even if there was an injury in front of them. This is primarily why I went IDP to catch a better PPG uptick rather than going after a guy that likely has little shot of producing anything.

 
80Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:38
for SwinganaMiss
6.10 Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG
I figured I better get another RB here, as I only have two and one is pretty questionable. I was primarily deciding between Leon Washington and Bradshaw here. If Hixon (see 5.09) won't return kicks, then I'm hoping that Bradshaw will do so again this season, though I haven't seen anything definitive. If he does then he should provide excellent value while also spelling Jacobs.

I'm hoping for 1000 total yards, 5-6 TDs + KR duties here. A Jacobs injury (always possible) could make this even more lucrative.

 
81Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:39
for s R
6.11 Greg Olsen TE CHI
He had over 50 receptions for five touchdowns last season with Chicago's conservative offense and last year's QB not throwing deep with regularity. Jay Cutler should bring more of a vertical look to the offense and I look for Olsen to be a stud tight end this season.
 
82Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:39
for IAC
6.12 Leon Washington RB NYJ
A little higher risk/reward type player than most of my "safe" picks up till now. He isn't the #1 back in the offence, but he may see a ton of snaps in 3rd downs, Wildcat formations, and in the return game. If he is heavily featured, I could see him being a top 10 RB once again this year, but I could equaly see him seeing a drop in TD's, and maybe losing some of his return.
 
83Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:39
for Smith32
6.13 Jamal Lewis RB CLE
I like the upside of Ray Rice, but thought I'd better add some protection at RB just in case things don't work out as planned with the Ravens RB situation. I had hoped Fast Willie would make it back around to me, but that didn't work out. Lewis appears to have the starting role in the Cleveland offense, which should be run- heavy, and he's rushed for 1000 yards or more on a consistent basis. He's definitely on the decline, but if he can find the end zone a little more often than he did last year, he should be a nice fill-in / back-up.
 
84Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:40
for wiggs
6.14 Jon Beason LB CAR
I really wanted to get Patrick Willis with this pick. I really thought I had a good shot with the last pick in the 6th. I was hoping to get Beason with pick 7.01. I really like Beason here. I think if Willis is the best lb then Beason is 1A. I see him being a dominate force in the middle of a solid Defense.

7.01 Jonathan Vilma LB NOR
As I said before I would have loved to get Patrick Willis with pick 6.14 and taken Beason with this pick I am still very happy with getting Vilma as the next best player. After his knee injury he came back with 100 tackles in NO and I expect he will do it again this season. My plan coming in to this league was to get some solid defensive players and with Beason and Vilma I think I accomplished my goal.

 
85Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:40
for Smith32
7.02 Carson Palmer QB CIN
So Tom Brady misses a year due to injury and moves down less than 1 round in ADP. Palmer has an off year due to injury, and he moves down 4 rounds? I know there are other factors, but I think Palmer is a great value here with lots of upside. The lack of a running game in CIN and the fact that they will probably be trailing for a good portion of the time should boost his numbers.
 
86Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:40
for IAC
7.03 Devin Hester WR CHI
I drafted him at 7.04 last year and I'm happy to have the privledge to grab him again this year. He's got an interesting situation as the WR1 to Jay Cutler. As the 28th WR taken off the board, I think I can rely upon him to at least cover his draft position. I've now locked up 3RBs, 3WRs, and 1 QB... I might need to start focusing on the rest of the lineup here soon.
 
87Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 15:41
for S R
7.04 Kevin Walter WR HOU
Last season he doubled his visits to the end zone from 2007 while registering similar reception and yardage tallies, so he can now be counted on to post good numbers each week. Clearly a No. 3 WR.
 
88SwinganaMiss
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:08
7.05 Jerricho Cotchery, WR, NYJ
Some people might think I have a NY bias after selecting my 3rd NY player in a row with this pick. Again I am looking at a top-20 WR on my sheet still available. Clearly my sheet stinks.

With the top standout LBs already taken I didn't see a whole lot else that constituted value with this pick. This should round out my starting WRs, allowing me to concentrate on a few other holes. Looking back(forward), maybe another RB was in order here. There were a few I wouldn't have minded having that went prior to my next pick.

 
89culdeus
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:08
7.06 Cedric Benson, RB, Cin
Had to. I am stunned that he lasted past the following RBs. I'm not sure if any of these guys do kicks/punts.

Brown
Lewis
Bradshaw
Norwood. ???I don't think he's doing kicks, but could be wrong???

I mean he's got a good situation in place and has nobody pushing him at all. He could completely underperform and he'll still get 15 touches a game just for lack of any other options. He's got low miles and is perfectly set up to have a big year. I think I got bailed out for the 5th round here. Worst case it's a no risk high reward pick.

 
90Bonka
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:09
7.07 James Harrison, LB, Pit
At this point I could really have used a RB, but I figured I'd risk it and wait to see if I can grab someone in the next round or two while grabbing a solid IDP. Harrison had 8 double digit games last season and was the 2nd highest scoring IDP. I can't expect another 16.5 sacks, but he'll still have big scoring outputs. Since IDPs do tend to help win a few games a year when they have huge games, that's fine with me.
 
91fugazi
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:10
7.08 Donald Driver, WR, GB
I'm not real excited about this pick. But I needed another WR and Driver seemed to be the best on the board. Donald does have the potential to have a great season though. If he stays healthy He should put up some great numbers. I guess it was Rodgers and the high power Green Bay offense that made me pull the trigger on this pick.
 
92letterj
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:11
7.09 Santana Moss, WR, Was
Another #1 WR...however, the offense on this team may be also somewhat challenged. Moss has posted almost 1500 yds in 2005 and almost a thousand yds last year, with 6 TDs. He's good for at least a 1000 yds if his undrafted QB is anywhere half decent.

I believe this was ridiculous value here at pick 107. The only other option here was a QB.

 
93youngroman
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:11
7.10 LenDale White, RB, Ten
I wanted another RB here, because there are not many left. I preferred Cedric Benson over LenDale White, but he went a few picks earlier. No other RB to consider with this pick, so I'm happy that my 2-man queue made it that long.

White will be RB 1b in a run heavy Tennessee offense. Chris Johnson had 250 carries last year, White had 200. I am expecting a similiar time share this season, which should give me around 800 yards. add some goal-line TDs and I am talking about a nice pick at this stage of the draft. too bad he shares the bye-week with my #2 Julius Jones, but I am sure that I will add some more RBs later that should get some more work, come week 7.

 
94Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 20:13
7.11 Antonio Bryant, WR, TB

Pretty much settled on Bryant here, but then thought I might want to grab a QB here before all the decent options are gone. But checking the roster grid, all three managers after me have a QB, so it's unlikely they'll grab one here. I picked up Bryant last year off of the waiver wire and he became a mainstay in my lineup after putting up some monster games. He was a big part of my team's advance through the playoffs. It's probably unrealistic to expect a similar performance this season, but I'm thinking he fell too far - so I'm happy to add him back to my roster now.
 
95Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 21:20
for Bags
7.12 DeMarcus Ware LB DAL
The ultimate homer pick. I have a gigantic man crush on D-Ware. I know he won’t get 20 sacks again but I will be cheering him on every week. I think he will be a top 10 LB this year and the potential for more is there.
 
96Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 21:21
7.13 Fred Jackson, RB, Buf
Not just a handcuff for Marshawn Lynch. With Lynch suspended for the opening 3 games, he’ll presumably carry the workload for the Bills for those three weeks – and also for me. Decent value at this point, even without the tie-in to Lynch.

 
97beastiemiked
ID: 35621411
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 21:56
7.14 Steve Breaston, WR, ARI

Breaston is a slight sentimental pick for me. He was one of the steals I got last year. I had to draft him a lot earlier this year but still think he's slipped further than he should've because of the knee sprain that has sidelined him. It's a slight concern but it seems he'll be ready for the regular season. As a the 3rd receiver for a top 3 passing team and a kick and punt returner he'll get his points. Boldin has missed 4 games each of the past 2 years. His health is a huge question mark and chances are Breaston will get at least 3+ games where he'll be the #2 guy.

 
98beastiemiked
ID: 35621411
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 22:03
8.01 Josh Cribbs, WR, CLE

LOL, another return guy. Cribbs is a playmaker. He's seeing a lot of reps as the 2nd receiver. Not sure if that's a good thing(see Hester last year). He's also going to be a special play type guy. I just can't see him regressing point wise. Judging by his last preseason game, he's got a ton of upside.

Almost picked Holt or one of the plethora of linebackers here. After looking over the LB's, I figured I'd take one of the leftover LB's next round.

 
99Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 22:52
8.02 Ted Ginn, Jr., WR. Mia
My short list for this pick was Breaston and Ginn. BMD made the choice for me.

After a slow start last year, Ginn emerged as a very solid performer. For the last 11 games, he averaged over 11.5 fantasy pts/game, which would have ranked him in the top 10 for the season. In his third year and as the #1 receiver for the Dolphins, I’m looking for a continuation of that second half trend.

 
100Bags
ID: 47227122
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 00:18
8.03 Owen Daniels, TE, Hou
A player I drafted last year and more than happy to have back. The HOU offense is looking like a good one again this year and Daniels should be a big part of it. Still have a few more TE’s in the old queue if some of them make it back I might go with the two TE set.
 
101Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 47227122
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 00:21
8.04 Matt Ryan, QB, Atl

As I anticipated with my 7.11 pick, I'd still have my choice of available QB's. Ryan jumped onto the scene last year with an impressive rookie campaign. But, I'm really not entirely comfortable with him as my primary QB - I would have preferred Carson Palmer who was picked in the 7th. Ryan does have some good weapons on the offense with Roddy White, Michael Turner, and the added Tony Gonzalez, so he should build a bit on what he was able to accomplish a year ago - and I'll be happy with that.
 
102Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:56
for youngroman
8.05 Karlos Dansby LB ARI
I started the LB drafting, maybe a bit too early, but you never know when the first ones go off the board. I was right with my WR pick in round 1, and I still think the late 5th round was tight for the 1st LB. with no players standing out and other teams looking at the defensive side of the ball, I looked there too. I don't know how many LBs will come off the board the next 2 rounds. I expect a similar run than the (un)expected early run for WRs in the first 3 rounds. so I better grab a LB here and maybe some defense players when it makes it back to me. the best player left is Karlos Dansby and thats the reason why I picked him. there are some others in the same range, like DeMeco Ryans, but for me Dansby will be a bit better. other offenses need to throw the ball a lot, to make up some ground, after Warner throws for a big early lead.
 
103Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:56
for letterj
8.06 Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT
Pre-draft, I had targeted one other QB in this slot. Alas, he was selected a little earlier.

Two years ago, Big Ben was a Top 6 fantasy QB. Since then, his situation has not regressed as he still has two top WR. Further, with the goal line situation unstable on the ground with no clear alternative punch it in, Roethlisberger has the skill set to run it in himself (10 rushing TDs in five seasons). I needed a QB and two years ago, I had him on my fantasy team and he was golden, so I pulled the trigger.

 
104Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:56
for fugazi
8.07 Tim Hightower RB ARI
WOW! I feel like I got great value here. Starting running backs are hard to come by in the eighth round but I got one. And a solid one at that. Hightower has looked great through the preseason. And with his brute force running style. He should get the goal line duties in Arizona. I almost took Tim two rounds ago but made myself wait.
 
105Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:57
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8.08 Earnest Graham RB TAM
Having two starting RBs who were injured last season, I had to grab a solid backup who would see substantial playing time. I may have taken him a round early, but I absolutely could not risk Graham being taken before my next pick as I saw him being the only RB left that will definitely get enough touches to be a factor every week. He'll be splitting time with Ward and will probably get a good number of goal line carries. He was hurt last year after having a very solid season prior, so there's no doubt he can get the job done. It just comes down to being healthy again and how much of the work load he is given.
 
106Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:57
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8.09 David Garrard QB JAX
This was the year to either take a top 2 QB or just sit back. QB 3-10 were all the same in my eyes. I had Garrard about QB10 over lots of guys that went off earlier like Palmer, Shoob, Ryan. I actually thought Ben would fall to me, but wasn't to be.

This is a pretty big coup and sort of bails out my early IDP pick. Garrard was actually on my mind for that one right there, but I let him float.

Nothing about this round stands out. People just filling out slots on need mostly.

 
107Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:57
for SwinganaMiss
8.10 Leodis McKelvin DB BUF
There were a few RBs I was hoping would slide to me here, but I should've known better. (This has been a recurring problem for me already in this draft.)

So w/o a single IDP to this point I felt like I needed to get something started here. Rather than taking the next in a long line of usable LB, I opted for what I feel to be a DB w/ huge potential. He will certainly be a starting CB for Buffalo. He's young and still learning, meaning he could get picked on--not a bad thing in FF. I am also expecting him to return kicks for Buffalo. I've seen varying reports regarding this possibility, so we'll see how it turns out. I also considered Josh Wilson with this pick. Anyone who looks at last years scores will see that Wilson was the highest IDP (not just the highest DB) by a considerable margin. Hopefully I didn't pick the wrong KRing DB.

 
108Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:58
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8.11 D'Qwell Jackson LB CLE
Jackson has improved each year in the league and broke out in 2008, registering 154 tackles. Most important, he has the extra motivation of playing for a new contract this season.
 
109Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:58
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8.12 Chris Cooley TE WAS
TE is a position that I find really hard to judge. If the guys not an elite like: Gonzo or Gates, I find that they are really hard to predict. So I decided to hold off a little while on value. I think I got great value with Cooley. He's been a top 10 TE for the last 4 years, so I should have a pretty stable guy with this pick.
 
110Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:58
for Smith32
8.13 Jerod Mayo LB NWE
When I made this pick I did not have access to my IDP cheat sheet, and I really wanted to take a LB here. So I tried to rely on my memory of who the top LBs were. I thought Mayo was ranked pretty high with some upside entering his second season. Someone (not sure of the credibility) called him "the next Ray Lewis". Since his coach knows what plays the other team will run, he should put up good numbers. After I got back and looked at my sheet, I realize that this wasn't a terrible pick, but maybe a round or 2 early.
 
111Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:59
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8.14 LeSean McCoy RB PHI
Might have reached a bit here. I was really hoping I could get Cedric Benson with this pick, but he was gone. I think that McCoy could be a HUGE pick this season if Westbrook goes down, which I am hoping he doesn't, but i could see happen. I now have 4 RBs and should be set at that position now.

9.01 Torry Holt WR JAX

I really do not love Holt with this pick, but i think in Jacksonville he might make his return to glory. He should be Garrard's main target and hopefully he is healthy this season. I am hoping with MJD running wild defenses will need to stack the box alittle giving holt some 1 on 1 coverage.

 
112Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:59
for Smith32
9.02 DeMeco Ryans LB HOU
Another IDP pick from the memory bank. Ryans is an interesting player in that you'd think he was 32 years old by the way his tackle numbers have dropped over the past 3 seasons. He put up stellar numbers in 2006, decent numbers in 2007, and mediocre numbers in 2008. He's not 32 years old - he's really 25, so I think his ceiling is his 2006, but I expect something close to or a little better than 2007. He is expected to blitz more this year also, which could result in a few more sacks.
 
113Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:59
for IAC
9.03 Kellen Winslow TE TAM
This pick was "left-overs" of my previous queue, and unfortunately I didn't post any instructions to my DP's on not doubling up on a given position, so what I ended up with, was back to back TE's that share the same bye week. At least in this format, we can start 2WRs with 2TEs, so should Winslow stay healthy, he has a great chance to start on my team. Injuries obviously are a big worry with Winslow of course, so I'll temper my enthusiasm on this pick somewhat.
 
114Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:00
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9.04 Ray Lewis LB BAL
The old Raven proved he still had it last year at 33 years old. He isn't what he once was, but he's still going to post more than 100 tackles this season.
 
115Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:35
for SwinganaMiss
9.05 Lance Briggs LB CHI
Using the same rationale in this round as in the last I should've went ahead and taken Josh Wilson for reasons previously mentioned. If I was certain of his KR status I would've done that, but one uncertain KR DB is enough of a risk. My regret was almost immediate as just after this pick Wilson was tops in culdeus's queue.

So, finally I'm on the board at LB with LB, Lance Briggs. I'm expecting top ten LB numbers out of him again this season.

 
116Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:35
for culdeus
9.06 Josh Wilson DB SEA
Had to. So I think I have #1 and #2 IDP overall in the can now. Josh WAS my team last year. Dude saved me on many weeks and was an integral part of a couple 200+ point weeks as well. Really I was prepared to go as early as 5th round with him, but the way things shook out with Moreno had me on tilt and I just let him go.

I mean here's a guy that will get 50 points this year easy on defense and another 100 on returns. Love it and the fact that it made Bonka go on a rant makes me happy.

 
117youngroman
      Donor
      ID: 02934823
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:12
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9.07 Kirk Morrison, LB, Oak
After getting home and seeing who I got from my queue I was pleased. Until I actually had time to check out the latest news on him. Since I hurredly put a queue of IDPs together before going out on a job all day, I didn't know he had dislocated his elbow 2 days ago. He's supposed to be ready to go for week 1, and I certainly hope he is. Being burned by a lingering injury here would sting considering the other top IDPs still available at the time. ir
 
118youngroman
      Donor
      ID: 02934823
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:12
for fugazi
9.08 Baltimore
I had a feeling team D's were about to drop like flies. So it was pretty easy to pull the trigger on this one. good team D'S score a lot of points. And a bad one can cost your season. I feel confident that the Ravens will emerge as the number two defense this year. Just behind the all mighty Steelers.
 
119youngroman
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:13
for letterj
9.09 San Diego
I believed that a run on defenses was about to begin, so I grabbed what could potentially be the number one defense in the RIFC. It seemed that there was lots of talent available at all other positions and it seemed to be another HUGE upside pick. In retrospect, I may have reached a little bit, but, coupled with another high upside D, I trust that I will be set at this position.
 
120youngroman
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:17
9.10 London Fletcher, LB, WAS
my 3rd LB in 9 rounds. what am I thinking? I thought about the Baltimore defense, but did not get them. I have spotted some sleepers at other positions that should hopefully be available later, so I looked at the IDPs again. Fletcher is a warrior. he never missed a game in his 10 year career. In his last 9 season he has over 90 solo tackles every year. add a little bit over everything else and I just drafted one of the most consistent defense players in the NFL. I am just expecting the same this year. and I am sure, he will deliver.
 
121Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 47227122
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:43
9.11 Giants D, Def, NyG

My thinking here was that there's more differentiation in team defenses than individual defensive players, so I opted for what I thought was the strongest team d available. I was all set to put in the Ravens only to see they had been selected a few picks earlier. Was hoping this would start a run on team d's - we'll see.... (turns out it was more then end of a run than a start.)
 
122Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 16:23
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9.12 Paul Posluszny LB BUF
Quite a few LB’s came off of my queue that round. One thing I like to have is strong LB’s. Decided to use this pick to add another LB. Ranked 30th in p/pg last year I think he is young enough to improve and be a top 15 LB.
 
123Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 16:24
9.13 Bradie James, LB, Dal
Ranked #8 among linebackers is total pts last year. Not only 116 tackles, but 8 sacks. Good value as the 16th LB drafted, and my first IDP.

 
124Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 18:01
for beastiemiked
9.14 Gary Brackett LB IND
I couldn't wait any longer to take a LB. Brackett isn't a sexy pick or one that has huge upside. Just your run of the mill middle linebacker. He did miss 4 games last year and still had a decent season. He seemed like one of the last top LB's so I can't complain about missing out of the huge LB run.

10.01 Will Blackmon DB GNB
Before the huge linebacker run I had planned on taking two LB's with my picks here. However, the quality of DB's left compared to LB's was much higher. Blackmon is another kick/punt returner. Last year he proved he can hold his own at corner. Apparently, he'll be seeing more PT on defense this year which should only increase his tackle numbers. Even if he gets completely booted from defense his kick and punt return #'s will still make him a middle of the road IDP guy.

 
125Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 18:02
10.02 Adrian Wilson, DB, Ari

I was all set to take Will Blackmon here. Oops.

Two different ranking sites project Adrian Wilson to be the top DB this year, so why not?
 
126Bags
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 19:57
10.03 John Carlson, TE, Sea
The last TE left in my queue. If I don’t find another WR I’ll use the two TE set. Carlson was a top 10 TE last year as a rookie and with Hasselbeck hurt most of the year. He defiantly has the potential to improve.
 
127Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 47227122
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 19:59
10.04 Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, Oak

As I was looking through the available kick returners, I was looking for players also with a shot of scoring some points from the primary positions. Higgins stood out as opposed to some of the defensive backs as someone who looks to be a lock with the return duties but might also see some action as a WR. He had a strong end to the season last year with receiving TD's in the last three weeks.
 
128Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:34
for youngroman
10.05 Percy Harvin WR MIN
picking a 3rd WR was due. I had him on the radar for a while now and this round it was time to pick him before he lands on another team. I don't know yet what kind of role he will play on the Vikings. I only know that he gets praised by the coaches for his speed and versatility. it looks like he could play RB, WR, KR and PR. all in one game. it wouldn't suprise me if he really gets used like that. lets see what the season has in store for him.
 
129Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:37
for letterj
10.06 Donnie Avery, WR, STL
Another #1 WR on a suspect team, Avery put up respectable starting numbers last year, all the while showing big play ability. This year, he slides into the WR#1 previously occupied by the now Jaguar Torry Holt.

Avery slid this far because of a training camp injury. Yet, as of today, it has been reported that Avery will be ready for Week 1. If that is the case, then this is again very good value at pick 132.
 
130Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:38
for fugazi
10.07 Lance Moore WR NOR
Great value here. I guess everybody was afraid of Lance because of the injury. But if he gets healthy and stays that way he could be a top 20 receiver. Considering I got him in the tenth I'm pretty happy with that.
 
131Guru
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      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:38
for BoNkA
10.08 E.J. Henderson, LB, MIN

A top LB 2 years ago and projected to be the same this and last year, I expect him to do so as long as he avoids another injury. I took him last year and was bummed after he went down for the season. Hopefully he can redeem himself for my benefit and put up monster numbers.
 
132Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:39
for culdeus
10.09 Minnesota Vikings DEF MIN
Seemed logical pick here. Team D can go off in a hurry and I do not like having to juggle d based on matchups. I think this is the #2 D in this format for this year. Good individuals who can get stats and plus they run the ball alot keeping the other team off the field.

Last year was hilarious when for some reason I got PITT at perhaps the 11th D off the board. I was stunned. I'm not a huge fan of a Team D in any format in any league just because it takes away from monitoring the growth and progress of players, but whatever. It is most likely a holdover from the days when people played smallworld football in huge numbers. It's just something people are used to.

Avery and Moore both represented huge values in this round in my mind.

 
133Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:52
for SwinganaMiss
10.10 Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
Another one of those forgetable/regretable picks. In my haste to take a RB I was thinking about other backups that might see some time--the most obvious have been taken at this point.

I expect the Steelers to be good. I wouldn't be surprised if Parker got injured. I would like to think that Rashard could step in and become an impact player. Way too early on this one. Shame on me.

 
134Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:52
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10.11 Eric Weddle DB SDG
 
135Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:53
for IAC
10.12 Philadelphia Eagles DEF PHI
Not much to say about this pick. The Eagles blitz well, and they had a favorable schedule... and I don't think I overpayed for them taking them at the end of the 10th round.
 
136Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:53
for Smith32
10.13 Dustin Keller TE NYJ
There is / was a strange mix of guys with 2 TEs and guys with none, and I had Keller and Carlson in the queue as they were the last guys I had in that tier. Carlson went a few picks before mine, and so I got Keller. He got off to a slow start last year, but really made an impact late in the year. The way the Jets offense is shaping up, I think he will be a good safety valve and become the first or second option on passing downs. If he takes the next step in his second year, he'll be a good value here.
 
137Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:54
for wiggs
10.14 Laveranues Coles WR Cin

I was pleasantly surprised that Coles was still around with this pick because I considered him with my 9.01 pick. I think with OchoCinco playing up to his normal abilities this season that should leave Coles open for alot of plays. I also think that Carson Palmer should be back to his old self soon. I expect big things from Coles this season and could be one of the biggest steals in the draft.

11.01 James Farrior LB Pitts

I was hoping to get a bit of a better backer here, but I really wanted to finish up my lb core. I now have what I consider to be 3 top 10 lbs. Farrior is a force in a great Pitts defense. I expect 80-90 tackles and a few sacks. I had hoped for a guy that gets more sacks with this pick, maybe a DeMarcus ware type player, but i should have known he would never make it back to me.
 
138Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:54
for Smith32
11.02 Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA
Since Palmer is about as risky as QB1s come, I figured I needed to get a "QB1.5" that I could reasonably start every week if necessary. Hasselbeck has a new weapon with TJH, and Carlson should be a solid target. Hasselbeck will never be a Brees or Brady, but hopefully he'll be serviceable.
 
139Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:54
for IAC
11.03 D.J. Williams LB DEN
The first IDP I take. I've have a few IDPs on my shortlist for a couple rounds now, but someone always managed to grab them before I did (good drafting boyz!), so I'm trying to fill out my IDP starters a little late. Williams is the talent of his LB group, and should be on the field for 3 downs. He may be a top 10 LB.
 
140Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:55
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11.04 Laurence Maroney RB NWE
 
141Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:55
for SwinganaMiss
11.05 Brent Celek TE PHI
I was expecting to take Celek in this round, but I wasn't sure my queue would be setup to make it happen as I was setting it for two rounds. Fortunately for me I got the guy I was looking for (thanks Guru for stopping the draft to confirm it).

I think Celek should get the opportunity to increase his numbers significantly from last year (that should really be a no-brainer if you see his numbers from last year). I'm hoping he can be relied upon as an every week TE for me, w/o *undrafted* ahead of him on the depth chart. Something around 600 yds and 5-6 TDs would be pleasing at this spot. Hopefully his minor injury is healed well before the regular season.

 
142Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:55
for culdeus
11.06 Visanthe Shiancoe TE MIN
Farve is gonna throw alot and will be chased. VS represents a safety valve and a good chance to finish top 5 in TE. He's a target of mine in all leagues this year as a sleeperish TE. A need based pick as people strangely have stocked up on TE this year. I think at the time of this pick 3 teams already had 2TEs. I imagine this is done to plug them in at flex, but if you treat flex as a conglomeration of WR/TE there's no way the value of the TEs taken exceeded the WR value.

Will evaluate the "stud TE" teams later around that.

 
144Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:29
for BoNkA
11.07 Tennessee Titans, DEF

I wasn't sure which direction I should go with this pick as I looked at DEs, TEs, WRs, and DEFs. Every other position I figured the guys I was looking at would be there later or the bye weeks just didn't work out. I'm hoping the Titans can put up similar numbers as last season. They may not be amazing and I possibly took them a little early but I've been stuck with crap DEFs in the past and it's really not a good thing.
 
145Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:29
for fugazi
11.08 Jared Allen DL MIN
When everybody started drafting IDP'S I already had my sights on Allen. He has the largest ceiling of any of the DL'S. And could score as much as some top LB'S. Any way now I don't have to face him on game day. Allen has always tore me apart in past seasons.
 
146Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:30
for letterj
11.09 Edgerrin James, RB, ARI

Over a round ago, Edge signed a deal with the Seahawks and, yet, pick after pick went by in the 10th and 11th rounds as I waited for someone to draft him. Rumour has it that James had previously received offers from two other NFL teams but he said ``No Thanks``, because he was not going to have a chance at a starting gig with those teams. One would assume that the Seahawks gave him that assurance and that is why he is now in the Pacific Northwest.

If he becomes the starter in Seattle (and it`s not out of the question given Edge`s pass blocking skills), he was worth, at the very least, drafting in the sixth round (as that`s where Julius Jones was selected).
 
147youngroman
      ID: 47227122
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:48
11.10 James Davis, RB, Cle
Davis has a fantastic training camp. It seems like he already passed Harrison for #2 RB and is on the way to spell an aging Jamal Lewis. with his potential, there is not much you can do wrong in the 11th round.

thought about Edgerrin James too, he was #2 in my queue. problem with him is that he would be my 3rd RB with the same bye week.

 
148Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 47227122
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:51
11.11 Matt Cassel, QB, KC

I wanted to grab a backup for my starter Matt Ryan before things got too thin. I was hoping that I'd be able to get one with the same first name so I wouldn't have to change my planned motivational chant 'Dammit Matt - throw it to your own team, and would it kill you to get one touchdown per game!?' With Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Schaub off the board, I was quickly running out of opportunities. Plus, I was a bit concerned having to rely solely on a QB in his second year of NFL experience, so now I can rely on two QB's with a year of NFL experience.
 
149Guru
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      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 16:15
for Bags
11.12 Yeremiah Bell DB MIA
100 solos and 20 assists at SS last year. If you can’t draft a DB with return eligibility then one who makes tackles like a LB is not a bad way to go.
 
150Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 16:15
11.13 Jeremy Shockey, TE, NO
Kind of tough to figure out where to go at this stage of the draft. I do need a 5th receiver, another backup RB, and 4 more starting IDPs. With Witten as my starting TE, Shockey won’t crack my lineup except as a bye week filler unless he shows he can produce. And if he does return to form, maybe I can trade a TE later on to shore up some other weakness.

In any event, 61 yards and a TD in the first preseason game shows the upside potential. And his bye week meshes well with my other receivers.

 
151beastiemiked
      ID: 35621411
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 19:21
11.14 Brian Urlacher, LB, CHI

A former top 5 linebacker. He's apparently 100% healthy this year which boost his production. I'm there's no way he doesn't improve on last years numbers unless he gets injured. I consider him a steal at this point.

12.01 Willis McGahee, RB, BAL

I'm not a big fan of McGahee but he had slipped too far. He'll be splitting carries with Rice and possibly another RB. Rice is unproven and McGahee supposedly is more motivated this year. The great thing about Baltimore is they have plenty of carries to spread around. Even if he gets less carries than Rice he should be getting PT and points each week.

 
152Guru
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12.02 Mario Williams, DL, Hou
Some would argue (and I have been among them) that a DL shouldn’t be taken until a later round than this. But Williams has several compelling facets:

1. He could turn out to be the best at the position, and should at least be in the top 5.
2. He has a bye in week 10, so barring injury (or hurricanes), I won’t need to tie up a bench spot for a lineman during the peak bye weeks. I can simply “set it and forget it”.
3. I can’t find anyone else to pick with a more compelling rationale.

So be it.

 
153Bags
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12.03 Dallas D, Def, Dal
I was hoping to get MIN def here. DAL should be a good defense; they could really improve if they force more turnovers and score some defensive TD’s. I’ll be rooting them on as always.
 
154Slackjawed Yokel
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12.04 David Harris, LB, NYJ

Time to grab my first IDP. There had already been 21 LB's off the board, but I don't think the dropoff was huge considering the solid backups I was able to grab on the offensive end. Harris put up big tackle numbers as a rookie and had some solid games last year but missed about half the season because of injuries.
 
156Guru
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for youngroman
12.05 Zach Miller TE OAK
last year he had 56 catches for 778 yards and 1 TD. this year there are talks that he will see even more balls. so add a few catches, which means a few more yards more and likely more than 1 or 2 TDs and you have a nice TE that you should be able to play every week.
 
157Guru
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12.06 Josh Morgan, WR, SFO

Another potential WR#1 on a suspect passing team, the talented Morgan was very impressive in preseason last year, only to have his regular season derailed by injuries. He has continued his stellar play in mini camp and training camp this year.

I have seen him go as high as the 6th round in some mocks, so I decided to forego some other needs for now for this high upside pick.
 
158Guru
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for fugazi
12.07 Ernie sims, LB, DET

Ernie should be on the field a lot! And that's why I picked him. He's a great talent on a terrible team. He should have plenty of time on the filed to rack up the tackles and such. This theory has not always worked for me in past. But I feel pretty good about this pick.
 
159Guru
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for BoNkA
12.08 Justin Tuck, DE, NYG

The draft looked ready for a slew of DEs to go in the next round or two after two of them were finally taken. I didn't have any pressing needs, so I grabbed Tuck, the highest scoring DE last season. I'm hoping he ends up with more sack opportunities since he has a returning teammate and the Giant's d-line is just a beast. I really liked this pick and it was topped off by the fact I swooped him right in front of Culdeus.
 
160Guru
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for culdeus
12.09 Chris Henry WR CIN
 
161Guru
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for SwinganaMiss
12.10 New England Patriots DEF NWE
I was already stoked to get Chris Henry here--counting his TD passes. Just one culdeus pick stood in the way, and of course my hopes were dashed.

I hadn't really even glanced at Team Ds to this point, so I took a look at a few schedules. The Pats scheduled seems pretty weak this year. I'll be looking for a few fill ins, but not too many. The Pats always seem to make big plays, so that's what I'm looking for. Now not only do I want them to score 60 every game (Brady TD passes galore), but I want them to shutout their opponents every week.

 
162Guru
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for s R
12.11 Trent Edwards QB BUF
 
163Guru
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12.12 Terrell Suggs DL BAL
It seems like Suggs has been playing forever, but he's still on 26 years old. This is a little on the early side for me to take a DL normally, but I found myself not being overly exited for many of the LBs available, so I aimed at targeting an early DL for once.
 
164Guru
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12.13 Fred Taylor RB NWE
Since my top 2 RBs have the same bye, I figured I needed to get someone other than a handcuff - someone who might score 7-8 pts a week rather than someone who will either get 20 carries or 2 carries that week I need him. Who knows what will happen in New England. He might be a big bust, but there wasn't much better out there for RBs in Rd 12.
 
165Guru
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12.14 Trent Cole DL PHI
I have Trent Cole as the 2nd best DL after Jared Allen. The guy hasnt missed a game in the past 3 seasons. He is in a blitzing defense and should get double digit sacks this season. I am also expecting about 50 tackles out of Cole this season.
 
166Guru
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Rationales for rounds 13-24