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Subject: Gurupie 24 2010 Season 9 Discussion

Posted by: Ref - Donor [539581218] Mon, Sep 06, 2010, 18:25

Preseason Discussion

Keeper Declarations

Supplemental Draft

Draft Discussion

2010 Schedule

Welcome to our 9th season of Gurupie 24 Football!

Waivers are turned on and will run at change of day Tues/Wed (really early Wed morning ET). For the two transactions that were made between the draft and waivers being turned on, those have been reversed. You will need to make a waiver claim for them or see if the pass through waivers so you can get a Free Agent claim for them.

There are still some teams who need to make their lineup legal. The first game is Thursday evening and the last chance to pick up/trade players for this week is 5 mins before the first game on Sunday. If you have a trade--you need to make it in enough time so that Cards or I can approve it. This league does have the option of voting to overturn the commissioner's ruling. There is the possibility of not getting the trade done in the same week--so the more time the better. Keep that in mind for your bye week wheelings and dealings!

Please check and make sure your schedule in CBS is the same as the one posted in the link above.

If you'd like to talk about the draft or anything about how you like your picks or rationales, you may do that in this thread. Many don't go back to the draft discussion thread much after the draft. I did complete the cumulative clock and post it in the draft discussion thread for future reference. No one time out of their c clock. I think next year we start the draft a day earlier and go with an automated system of some type.

Time for the season! Best of Luck!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 07, 2010, 10:48

Cards found an error in the schedule. I figured there would be at least one. Please check your team.

Week 7 had KC at Det instead of Min at Det. It has been fixed.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Sep 08, 2010, 10:32

REMINDER: If you're playing pick'ems, the picks must always be in by the first game of the week or you will be locked out by the site and unable to make picks for any game. You can drop the lowest week, but starting with week 1 isn't necessarily optimal.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 09, 2010, 13:16

This Assistant GM is kinda funny...

Boley, Michael LB NYG is a below average option at his position.

McClain, Jameel LB BAL is not worth keeping on your roster.

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Sep 09, 2010, 13:23

Funny, my Assistant GM said:

Bush, Reggie RB is an above average option at his position. You should trade him to the Indianapolis Colts along with a 2nd round draft pick in '11 for Dwayne Bowe and Joseph Addai.

I concur with that... :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 09, 2010, 13:25

Interesting they know that we are a keeper league. This will likely change a lot after week one. They obviously aren't accounting for having 24 teams.

Frick
ID: 20812916
Thu, Sep 09, 2010, 17:12

Has the assistant GM stopped reading news reports?

I don't disagree that Early Ducet is below average, but

2. Trade McGahee, Willis RB BAL to New York Giants for Rice, Sidney WR MIN. Then activate him to replace Doucet, Early WR ARI

I'll take a below average WR vs. one who's in a body cast.

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Thu, Sep 09, 2010, 21:34

Henderson on the bench, great start

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 10, 2010, 10:54

Berrian was a disaster.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Fri, Sep 10, 2010, 11:12

Jeremy got some points! Yay.

beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Sat, Sep 11, 2010, 14:12

CBS almost made me bench Cribbs since they are reporting he is no longer the returning kicks or punts. Mangini said he is no longer on kick or punt COVERAGE and CBS somehow interpreted that he is no longer returning kicks or punts. FYI, be wary of those CBS blurbs.

Great One
ID: 367493122
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 11:15

I have learned to never listen to anything that is stated in the CBS player page. I've seen ages, team, positions wrong... I've seen a writeup for completely the wrong player.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 14:10

Ugh--wrong guys on the bench!

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 16:09

my 1st round pick is looking not that bad: 231 rushing yards, 3 TD. I'll take it. thats nearly the half of my teams total points at the moment. there is hope that the Foster train does not de-rail next week.

judy
ID: 9729212
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 17:58

The Iggles OFF stinks... Nothing there. Very dull game.

Grant, Hoo-man injured.
Chung a nice surprise at DB (14).
Jints DST looks revived.

judy
ID: 9729212
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 19:22

My injury list for today:
Ryan Grant -- ankle, foot in boot
Kevin Kolb -- concussion
Stewart Bradley -- concussion
Mike Hooman -- ankle

total points for these guys you ask? 7.36 Thanks for asking.

#5 will probably light it up vs Dallas, just for spite...

Frick
ID: 328271218
Sun, Sep 12, 2010, 22:44

I can't remember, do we go with straight PA or do we back out points scored by the opposing D?

Great One
ID: 34813138
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 09:13

I don't remember, I guess Cowboys defense owner can tell us today.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 09:35

straight PA

Great One
ID: 34813138
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 11:28

Damn, worst teams get 1st pick each round AND top waiver priority?

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 14:41

19: Yes we give the worst teams every chance to improve.

I know my team wouldn't be that great this season, but it's worse than I thought. Would have been better with different players in my lineup, but still won't score enough consistently. Hope Bowe really does breakout this season as has been widely believed--but not holding my breath.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 17:03

nothing like having two guys you traded score 43 points against you in week 1. You know things are bad when a LB is your top scorer for the week.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 18:28

I should lose every game this season the way the injuries are going...
Only my IDP, K and DST will shine...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 18:30

{21} Hey me too. Chung has 14 points -- my individual high for the week!

Really hate seeing those little red plus signs next to my starters...

slizz
ID: 568531223
Mon, Sep 13, 2010, 19:11

judy, you could have the god-awful percy harvin in your lineup. He's moving into Romo status for me...where despite what the pundits say, I just don't like him.

I know Matt Ryan isn't as "fantasy friendly" but I just don't like Romo...I would have traded him for Cutler given the opportunity.

Great One
ID: 11845147
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 08:47

Who would have thunk I could have rolled with any of my late draft picks - Amendola, Walter or Legedu Naanee and comfortably beaten Andre Johnson this week. I would have guessed they'd be playing catchup vs. the Colts the whole game and he'd be huge. Its a new Texans I guess.

Frick
ID: 328271218
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 09:11

I wouldn't go that far yet GO. The Colts ran 9 offensive plays on their first 3 series, and still had a chance to go the locker room with the lead at half time.

I think the Texans will pass the ball plenty this year.

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 09:49

I'd try to unload Andre Johnson for anything I could get, if I were you. He's not going to get any points for blocking.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 10:08

I found 5 adjustments I had to make for negative yards. Can't believe CBS still can't figure out how to add in negative yards.

If you count K as an offensive player, I had 27.78 points from my offensive players combined--almost all were keepers. Most of my points came from draft picks.

I was telling the two new managers how quickly you can turn things around in this league and the scores this week is an example of that. Adding IDPs a few seasons ago added even more parity to our league.

I'm definitely open to trades. Not sure exactly what I'm possibly looking for at this point, but something's got to change quickly or I'll be playing for next year soon. My team should not be as bad as it looked this week--but I stunk in RIFC too so maybe it's just me. Really need to get my crystal ball to the shop!

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 12:22

Texans really outsmarted Indy this week. Indy usually gets up early on a team and never really has to worry about dfending the run. Houston turned the tide by getting ahead early, then ran the ball against an Indy D more suited to rushing the QB and defendinng against the pass.

Well executed.

Great One
ID: 50891414
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 15:09

I understand Indy's D is better when playing from ahead... but the Texans have been ahead of Indy before and blown it. On several occasions if I recall.

Great One
ID: 50891414
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 15:38

Damn - Arizona is certainly limping into our big Super Bowl rematch! Rough week for your squad Judy.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Sep 14, 2010, 22:45

Good thing my RIFC team did a great job...

Gonna be a long season -- ESP if djax and kolb do not meet expectations

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 00:11

This assistant GM is not liking IDPs. Is probably based on % of ownership and many leagues don't use IDPs.

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 02:41

don't say that. the Assistant GM likes Champ Bailey and Dwight Freeney. he actually loves Bailey because he says that he is better than any other of my IDPs for over 3 weeks now. he is that good that he scored a total of 2 tackles in week 1. seems like they haven't updated their data after week 1.

I also think that they don't count return yardage for any player.

The Beta tag seems to mean that there is a new feature. it does not mean that it is accurate. I wonder how many decisions are made based on that crappy assistant. not in our league but in leagues where noobs are playing.

Great One
ID: 548251511
Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 08:44

Yeah, its telling me to cut Amendola, who got a solid 10.9 opening week and has plenty of upside this year.

Also to get rid of all my IDPs.

Frick
ID: 328271218
Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 09:30

If CBS wasn't so expensive, it would be entertaining to have a 12 team league (with very conservative conventional scoring) and have all of the teams follow the GM assistant advice. I wonder what the most lopsided trade would be.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Thu, Sep 16, 2010, 10:10

Instead of "Assistant GM" they should call "The Owner's Son."

slizz
ID: 568531223
Sat, Sep 18, 2010, 12:36

seems rather quiet on the boards this year...no comments on the trades, etc. what gives?

Great One
ID: 367493122
Sat, Sep 18, 2010, 12:39

I'm dying to trade a WR for a RB... all of them are available... Miles Austin, Andre Johnson, Santonio. Lets find a match folks.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 10:08

PD just picked up IR Hardesty, maybe you can trade for him?

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 10:30

I'd love to get a WR but hard to do when you only have 1 RB to start with. Trading a 1st round pick for Maroney hasn't worked out too well.

slizz
ID: 568531223
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 11:39

look at PD making the savvy moves!!!

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 11:51

Hopefully my trade for Harvin works out. I drafted both Thomas and Shipley as replacements for TO as it will be hard to continue keeping him as a keeper. Harvin has his question marks but he has proven he can be a difference maker. Who knows long term though especially when Favre retires if he ever does.

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 12:30

Still don't like the double headers. Used to be a lot more excitement (to me anyway) going in to a week as you thought about a matchup vs your opponent. Now I barely pay attention to whom I'm playing. If you could set a different lineup for each game then it might be more interesting.

slizz
ID: 568531223
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 12:34

second that.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 12:39

#40: Lookin' ahead!

GO: I did send you a straight up offer (not Hardesty, sorry).

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 19:01

D. Thomas ouch. At least Harvin outscored Shipley.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 21:17

46: He wouldn't want Hardesty unless he's given up on this season already.

44: yeah it's tough. Just not as much convo as there used to be either.

47: I almost drafted Thomas in the 1st and then took Murphy over him in the 2nd--thinking his foot would never get healthy. Finally when I was getting ready to nab him, you took him before me. If that foot could be healthy he could be very good--but I still liked your end of the trade better. We shall see. Minny needs to get their offense together.

Great One
ID: 367493122
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 21:25

Solid offer in a non-keeeper PD but i gotta think long term too and it doesn't work on that end.

How does Judy deal with having the Giants D. She must be so conflicted.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 21:38

#48: Did you see who I dropped for him? This wasn't a "give up" but a build up. If someone comes along that I have to have, I'll drop whoever I need to (including Hardesty if I have to) to get him. But I'm not going to pass up a young potential starting rb if I don't have to. I had the spot so I filled it.

I daresay that if the league suddenly got an extra spot per team, then half the teams in this league would pick up guys like Hardesty as a speculative pick.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 22:39

{49} stuck with the Jints -- totally dislike everything about the team, but it is who I inherited and did not like trade offers. They are certainly schizo -- I never know what I am going to get. (in AAA I sat Miami v Vikings and they destroyed farve who I bet wishes he is out mowing the back 40 instead. Miami got 23 pts; the iggles got all of 6 and were really lucky to come out with a win)
{50} an extra spot? We're drafting dregs at the end anyway.

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Sep 19, 2010, 22:53

Yeah, but one of my dregs was cut!

Toral
ID: 377501519
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 00:24

No I think you'd need an extra two slots per team to make Hardesty of that much interest.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 10:00

PD, it wasn't a knock on you. I agree that it was a speculative pickup. You can't look at who you dropped to get him, but who you will be unable to pickup. Opportunity cost if you will. Twarpy says he's rebuilding and still dropped him even though he took him at 1.07 IIRC. He also has Tate who is on IR. This league is just really tough as it is trying to cover byes. Not sure if Hardesty will make it or not. There is no way I could take him before week 2 of the season. You just never know what will change. That's why I said GO wouldn't be able to trade for him. I'm not sure if he'd be any good at all, but I think it's a good speculative pick.

So, I studied my team and realized, that it's not my team who is bad, but it's the manager. Holy smokes I stink. I left another 40 points on my bench and would be 4-0 instead of 1-3 this season had I selected my starters better. To be fair, who couldda known about Snelling...but OUCH!

I'm getting some interest in Gonzo. I've always rejected offers for him off the top because it's really hard to replace a TE with that many points potential, but my RB/WRs are so inconsistent. If Turner would be out, then I'd have no interest as Snelling would be perfect. Maybe Turner's ankle will swell up. ;) Man that is so bad. Darn Fantasy Football!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 10:16

Oh, btw, Congrats to the Bills for beating the Colts for the first time in league history. 0-12 until this week. I think the Bills are one of the teams to watch.

slizz
ID: 568531223
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 10:37

i'm finally off the schneid vs. Ref's Colts...not to say that his team didn't go down without a fight but I'll take a win en route to a 3-1 start.

As for the Harvin trade...tremendous risk by me as I had no clue what to expect from Thomas since his foot was injured. I figured that with only Brandon Lloyd/Jabar Gaffney blocking him, he should see his fair share of targets whereas Percy's value is tied to the KR & Sidney Rice. Granted Percy is gonna have some monster weeks if you check his statline out from last year, but I just like my #1 targets and it looks like this gamble could pay off. Granted it was a huge gamble considering Percy goes anywhere from the 5th to the 7th round in a 12 team draft.

We'll see how Thomas does vs a decent team next week.

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 11:34

If you are building for next year, I would think Hardesty would be a decent stash. A couple weeks ago, he was a top 10 draft pick. He does seem to get injured a lot, though.

Toral
ID: 377501519
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 13:06

Need big night from Brees and PT Cruiser. Big night.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 14:26

Both here and in AAA, need Bush and Saints DST to do badly...

But DO need P Thomas and Brees to do well for AAA, but Colston not so much. Yo, Drew throw it to Devery and Meachem -- they're free!

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 16:44

I know my team is bad, which is actually refreshing - no pressure! But I am pleased to somehow have the chance to go 2-2.

I find it interesting that my best player outside of Wayne and Finley happens to be Manningham - and I haven't started him yet.

Toral
ID: 377501519
Mon, Sep 20, 2010, 23:54

Thanx guyz, that was just enuf.

Congrats to that excellent play review crew for getting Brees the ball back with a need to gain some yardage.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 21, 2010, 13:39

Found like 6 adjustments. Have had two people ask me about the record book. Will try to get it updated. Also need to update the H2H record after last season. I forgot about it. It's good to know that people actually look forward to that info. They will be posted in the league standings forum.

Great One
ID: 548251511
Tue, Sep 21, 2010, 14:04

We all appreciate Ref's hard work - even when its his records I'm trying to break. Sorry bud! :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 21, 2010, 17:38

My records are going down fast since we went to IDPs and DHs!!! I've got the Franchise standings and records done in the standings thread.

I messed up the L input in the AFC East but fixed it going forward. If you see any other mistakes, let me know. I have 2009's info linked for comparison. Again, I'll work on the H2H records through 2009 soon. Wondering how long it would take to keep up with that one...

Great One
ID: 367493122
Tue, Sep 21, 2010, 23:30

Ref if there anything any of us can ever help with don't hesitate to ask. With Google shared doc's its pretty easy to share nowadays.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 23, 2010, 13:58

Cool. If you want I can send you my file of H2H records through 2008. Actually the SS has 3 tabs on it and this is tab 3. If you could catch that up (can do it easily by going through team schedules from last season and adding to it) and then keep up and post it in the standings thread, that would really help. I am not sure what CBS has done wrong, but they have the History vs opponents all screwed.

Anyhow, then we can post the franchise standings, the h2h record and the league record book and keep them updated. Also if there are additional league records you would like to see added, we can look at that since CBS keeps our league history.

Remember that the first week of our league, CBS actually doubled a few team's scores and even though they corrected those manually, they reverted back to the screwup after that season and we were never able to edit them after that. The spreadsheet I have is accurate up to the point I have updates. Every season I go back through and double check everything for typos, etc.

Great One
ID: 218412410
Fri, Sep 24, 2010, 16:15

I can probably do some of that during the games on Sunday if you want to send it. Is it regular excel or a google doc though? cause i don't have regular excel on my laptop at home.

Great One
ID: 218412410
Fri, Sep 24, 2010, 16:16

Damn. Houston vs. Dallas better be a shootout since i have like 6 guys in the game lol...

judy
ID: 9729212
Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 16:05

And once again the Jints D shines ---- NOT!

Great One
ID: 367493122
Sun, Sep 26, 2010, 19:49

Unless the Jets D has a big night, likely The Streak is over at 12 games.

Great One
ID: 488592712
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 14:18

Not big enough, thanks to Keller for making it interesting.

We just completed a big trade, but stupid CBS won't let me accept it til 9 AM tomorrow which seems pretty dumb to me. Here is for everyone to discuss how I overpaid to get some injured guy who has proved nothing yet. There, I critiqued myself!

TRADE
Jets acquire
Ryan Mathews, SDG, RB
Anthony Gonzalez, IND, WR

Chiefs acquire
Miles Austin, WR, DAL
Santonio Holmes, WR, NYJ

gshade
ID: 43725129
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 14:59

@71: lol... confirmed

gshade
ID: 43725129
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 15:01

god i've gone trade happy in the past month or so. hopefully it works out.

Great One
ID: 488592712
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 15:43

I'd give up a 1st Round draft pick next year to anyone who can take out Urlacher tonight before he gets his 5th tackle.

slizz
ID: 568531223
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 19:00

hey now...do not mess with the bears.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 23:59

Was watching the shade/Promize game. Shade had Jordy Nelson and Promize had Gould and Packers D. Seahawks were up by a couple points and the Chiefs got a return from Jordy then a 5 yd rec from him. Then Bears get the ball and it looks like it's over unless Bears score a TD. Then the Bears drove down the field and couldn't get in, but the FG from Gould was 3 points yet the Packers D lost 3 points and the yards given up cost Promize the game by 1 point. Things had to work out just right.

Coach Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 09:58

Week 3 was a brutal schedule for the Ravens. I had to play the top scoring team. And I also had to play the second highest team. The odds of that happening are 1/24 * 1/23....or 1 in 552. Divided by 13 weeks, is once every 42 years. I probably messed that up somewhere, but the odds are it doesn't happen very often. The worst part was I was the 4th highest team.

promize@droid
ID: 282438
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 10:26

Trade announcement.

Seahawks give up..
David Garrard, QB, JAX
Calvin Johnson, WR, DET

Panthers give up..
Steve Johnson, WR, BUF
Mark Sanchez, QB, JETS

Think this is the first trade I've done in this league were I feel on the short end. But tired of Garrard and Sanchez is young. Hopefully it pans out for both of us positively

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 10:35

With the bye weeks upon us I have Bruce Gradkowski available.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 10:43

Well I guess it makes my sad little team feel better to know that we have the 2nd highest points against so far this season...

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 11:59

4-2 this is the little team that just won't quit. Now if I could get the same spirit out of my much more talented RIFC AAA bunch...

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 14:18

Did some quick research to see who's without a bye week QB before Gradkowski's week 10 bye--as it stands today.

week 4-- 1/4 teams
week 5-- 2/4 teams
week 6-- 2/4 teams
week 7-- 1/4 teams
week 8-- 4 possibly 5/6 teams
week 9-- 3/6 teams

Get him early and he's very tradable.

BTW, he's at home vs Houston this week, They rank 31st in passing D after 3 weeks.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 28, 2010, 18:13

77 ugh!
82 Now that's some very good trade talk!
81 I told you and esp Val that it wasn't as hard as it seemed to do well in this league. You can quickly turn things around if you make wise moves. Val has had the deck stacked against him but is now 3-3. Nerf is 4-2. This league really has a lot of possibilities for teams at the bottom.

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Sep 29, 2010, 08:08

I have Charlie Batch available as well for those looking for a bye week QB.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 29, 2010, 17:52

re {83} part two:

Or you can get really, really lucky...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Sep 29, 2010, 17:53

...or really, really, really, UNlucky... (Grant, Kolb, Jints D)

slizz
ID: 568531223
Thu, Sep 30, 2010, 07:42

skinneej...can't knock that hustle!

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 30, 2010, 19:35

Looks like there was an adjustment for one of the players on Promize's Seahawks team which turned him from a loser to a winner. Wow!

beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 13:00

Praying for a 1-1 week. No kicker and didn't try to trade for one since I'd have to overpay since this is the 1st week of byes. Plus, Breaston is out and Rice is going to be ineffective. Congrats on the scheduling luck on whoever faces me this week and week 8(half my team is on bye this week).

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 15:47

Not a good week to have TO riding the pine

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 19:25

I am pretty sure that safety for Eagels DST does not count. Celek tackled him after an INT. DST had nothing to do with that.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 03, 2010, 21:44

Will the REAL Jints DST please stand up?

Great One
ID: 198353014
Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 09:11

There is a lot of standing up to do, after each sack of Cutler.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 18:31

I started going through the H2H standings manually and as I updated, I noticed that there were errors. Originally, I used CBS' script minus the manual changes from the first season when CBS erroneously doubled some scores. But that script isn't totally correct. It seems that some numbers are simply underreported and do not always match-up with the opponents numbers. What I need is some assistance to help me identify which numbers are not correct.

From 2002-2006, we played every team in our own conference once and played an inter-conference game in weeks 5 and 9 using SOS in 2nd season.

In 2007 to present, we played everyone in our division twice. everyone else in our conference once and everyone in the other conference once except for two teams we didn't play based on SOS.

Based on that it's pretty easy to figure out a minimum number those teams have played each other. Obviously post season games add more games for all teams.

I have it updated through week 1 2009. If anyone has any time to go through and verify and alert me to errors, I'd appreciate it.

League web site is here:

http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gurupie/football.html
Go to the owners page for the teams and owners changes. No franchise has ever been changed or moved so things should be pretty easy to figure out except the teams name changes upon new owners coming in and this:

*In week 2 of 2002, there were erroneous doubling of several scores. These teams were given wins that should have been losses while their opponents should have been credited with the win: Bears (81.26 vs. Colts), Bengals (59.54 vs. Giants), Chargers (54.18 vs, Rams), Jaguars (62.8 vs. Cardinals) and Raiders (84.4 vs. 49ers). The Seahawks were doubled but still got the win (75.58 vs. Bills). High Score for the week was Minnesota instead of Oakland.

It will be posted in the same thread as our other standings here.

I'm not using any script. It's all manual. Thanks!

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 17:54

Which QB led the league in fantasy points scored last week?- Oh it was David Garrard playing for Carolina with 24.02. He outscored Brees, Brady and even Payton the Great.
Garrard was the third different QB to start for Carolina this year with #1 Roethlisberger yet to play. I guess it just goes to prove that I would rather be lucky than good (although I believe being good makes it easier to get lucky).
I am now 5-3 and honestly am not sure the 5 wins are good for my team long term as my whole team was drafted for potential and two years from now and at least 2 of them haven't even played for me yet. yes Ref you said this could happen but I still think it is an illusion and perhaps the best my over achieving team can do is to reach a perpetual state of mediocrity but I hope not.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 23:03

I have updated the record book. Still haven't had one person get back to me on the H2h. Sure would help if each team could go through their own team, but oh well. I was wondering about playoffs and so I went back through every season and added a new column for playoff appearances. This allowed some more info and added some new records.

Some interesting tidbits:
*No one has made the playoffs every season
*Four franchises have never made it
*One team has never scored 100/120/130 points
*Two teams have never scored the most points in a given week

Saw a couple errors after I posted. GO's Loss column is wrong and has been corrected. Same for Promize's playoff appearances (2).

Thread

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 09:19

Val, in my several talks with you this preseason, I just wanted to convey to you that your team was not hopeless. If you were savvy enough, which I truly believed you were, you could make a dent this season. Our leagues were designed to not only be deep, but have so many different ways for teams to improve both now and in the future. It was so difficult talking to people behind the scenes to try and make sure I found two managers who I was confident in and am really happy you and nerf joined us. But your pessimism, albeit mostly valid based on that team you inherited, was a little cause for concern because I didn't want you to give up before you got started. It takes a little work, but I knew if you would start to see some results once you made some wheelings and dealings and went through a draft and see how things worked out in this league. I am really happy for you and Nerf.

I also did a lot of talking to PD. I want his team to get better so badly. Slizz was trying to help him as well.

Bottom line is that luck plays a big part of everyone's team--no matter how good your team is.

I was looking at the record book and saw that bmd had the 5th highest score ever and lost in playoffs last season. He also is the 5th fewest to hit the 100/125/130 mark in our history and as only ha the high points for the week twice--yet he has made the playoffs 4 times--tied for 5th most. What's more he took the worst franchise over in 2005 and MADE THE PLAYOFFS that season and has made it 4 out of his 5 seasons. That was without IDPs or DHs.

My team has made the playoffs 7 out of 8 times and the season I missed it, I narrowly was left out due to the Points For tiebreaker. My team is anything but dominant, yet I'm always in the mix. The way I see it, if I can make the playoffs--anything can happen. Like, Val, I was preparing to do a massive re-build a couple seasons ago, but I had a low draft pick and it wasn't working. Before the season, I ended up without a starting QB. At the deadline, I traded for Favre? I felt I overpaid and only did it for the integrity of the league, IOW, to not give everyone a free win against me. Turns out Favre did pretty well in the beginning with the Jets and along with some other moves and luck, I ended up making the playoffs.

I don't want to give up all the strategies I've come up with, but I do know that if I needed to bolster my keepers, I absolutely would trade for them at the keeper deadline. I offered all of my drops to PD for instance and he could keep who he wanted, but it didn't work out. If he had done that, his team would have been a lot better right now. But as I've said before, my crystal ball doesn't seem to work and I obviously miss on a lot of guesses too, but the more you try, the more chances you are to get one right and those can vault you. I know several other very good managers do not subscribe to some of my ways of thinking but there is more than one way to skin a cat and that's why I like our leagues so much.

Great One
ID: 198353014
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 09:25

Great work Ref. That playoff game last year where I beat BMD had to be the most ridiculous game in league history. How he could get the 5th highest score ever in the league, and happens to catch me on a week I get the 2nd highest score was just insane.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 10:28

I think what I'm going to do for the H2H is to go ahead and keep adding to the totals and then go back and try and find the mistakes. It's just too difficult and time consuming as is.

100

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 12:43

Well, thank goodness Guru keep our historical threads. With my past year's stats, along with game by game histories with CBS and my current all-time standings, I was able to go through and fix the mistakes from CBS mistakes through 2008. Some of them were HUGE mistakes and a little surprised that some of you didn't catch them, but it's all good. Not sure how CBS' script can be so far off--but it's current H2H looks to have counted a season twice. Now I should be able to go through historical seasonal breakdowns and get the H2H chart figured out. I am pretty confident it is accurate now as all W/L records jive with their corresponding team.

101

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 16:41

H2H through 2009 is now up. I am going to go through and delete the 2008 and then 2009 H2H standings from the 2010 thread a little later. Also might work it to spread them horizontally more since the standings thread already moves things sideways. But not today. Am exhausted.

102

Peter N.
ID: 3792459
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 22:43

RE 95: Nice to finally get the license plate of that bus that ran me over last week! LOL

With Portis out, I'd like to try and trade for an RB. I have Moss, White, Williams, and JJones available. If anyone is interested in any of those 4 and has an extra RB, send me an e-mail.

103

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 17:32

6-2 for me is super-ultra lucky. This team doesn't have alot of talent, but it's getting by with favorable scheduling, and one pretty good FA move in getting Hill (or I'd be out of QB altogether). Adding on to that the fact that I had a bunch of IDP on BYE last week and couldn't field a complete team, but had my highest score of the year anyways.

I'm not expecting it to last, but I feel pretty good right now.

The unfortunate thing is that Romo trade doesn't seem to be working out for me. Harrison, Meachem, and Moore have been benched, and while the extra third pick was useful, I think this team would be better with Romo on it.

104

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Oct 08, 2010, 13:55

{96} not at all sure what I should be doing -- checking things that is...so I haven't...

Val -- luck is always better, although good helps...

I think there should be a league where it is 1 each of QB, RB, WR, TE, (or 3 flex -- choose any 3 positions from RB, WR, TE each week), PK, DST and then 9 IDP'S (2 required at each position and then 3 flex). it might be a fun angle to look at for a different approach to drafting...

Any thoughts anyone??? Could be crazy fun!!

105

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Fri, Oct 08, 2010, 14:09

Looking for a one week fill in at QB. Will trade a draft pick or make a swap for equal valued WR/RB.

106

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Sat, Oct 09, 2010, 19:46

I'd be up for a defensive league Judy- but do we really need those offensive players at all LOL?

107

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 00:10

The Saints/Lions game has a .36 diff late in the game. One assisted tackle can swing things.

108

Toral
ID: 1294825
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 00:20

Just let the Vikings have it the last 1:56. Nothing bad can happen while they have the ball.

109

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 00:34

Yeah that first down by Edwards won the game for you as Nerf did get a tackle and would have won otherwise. Good game. There were some other close games too.

110

Toral
ID: 1294825
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 09:14

Braylon makes a clutch catch. Anything can happen in football.

111

Great One
ID: 319451114
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 09:18

I want to get my hands on CC's Chicago... I don't like not being first in the power poll. I'm coming for you! :)

I won another league last night thanks to Favre's INT at the end. Thanks Brett!

112

Great One
ID: 319451114
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 09:28

Coach Rating is based on leaving the right guys on the bench vs. your starting lineup, right? So if I had a bench where nobody scored and I always made the right pick by default would I have the highest Coach Rating?

113

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 09:49

All I know is last week I had TO on the bench for his monster game and this week I had Harvin on the bench, both of which cost me wins.

114

Great One
ID: 319451114
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 09:56

Gotta love that consistency. Harvin is crazy cause on a Monday Night game you can't chance he's gonna wake up with a migraine on Monday morning.

115

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 10:55

Record Book has been updated. H2H Records through 2009 has been removed from 2010 thread but it is still in 2009 thread since that was the last update.

116

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 19:59

Close match in one. But I'm not complaining. My team is over-achievin'! Losing Finley is going to hurt though. Hopefully he is only out a few weeks.

117

Great One
ID: 319451114
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 09:16

A bit surprised nobody else claimed Colt McCoy.

118

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 09:33

The spoils go to those who pay attention. I just assumed he was already taken.

119

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 10:06

#117: You mean no one else with a higher waiver priority.

:)

120

Frick
ID: 42825248
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 16:43

Are you expecting significantly more production from McCoy than say, Jimmy Clausen?

121

Great One
ID: 367493122
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 17:25

Well he does have a leg up over about 15-20 guys currently on rosters - he's actually starting this weekend. And anything can happen when these guys get a chance. So that gives him some value.

122

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 21:55

Can someone explain the waiver order? Does it change weekly like MFL based upon standings? Does it roll all season? I always seem to be at the bottom on Tuesday am and have only be awarded one pick (I think).

123

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 22:36

From the CBS rules:

"The waiver rank for all teams at the end of one waiver process will be the starting rank for the next process."

You would move up in rankings, then, when the teams with higher priority use their picks on successful waiver pickups.

124

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 09:46

When you get a claim to go through you go to the bottom of the list. It does not reset each week or anything like that, its the same list all year... if you never claim anyone you'll eventually get to the top of the list.

125

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 09:55

121: Yeah but you can have games like last week from Collins too.

126

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 09:57

Alright, lets predict Colt's score then...
-3-0
0-3
4-7
8-10
10+

127

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:01

Well Collins was -6.72. Are you sure -3-0 is low enough? ;)

128

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:45

Ok - add on -3 to infinity category... we are now covered.

129

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:47

Sucks for him he has to make his debut vs. the Steelers though... we should side wager how many times he has to pick himself up off the ground and if he finishes the game. But at the least he should be passing a lot playing catchup.

130

Frick
ID: 42825248
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:55

Can I double up on any negative score?

If anyone is in need of a kicker for the week, I have one I would be willing to trade for a small draft pick upgrade next year some other cheap price.

131

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 11:30

Maybe I'll start him for the hell of it.

132

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 12:09

My bet would be that he doesn't start, so a 0.

133

Great One
ID: 19930148
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 12:19

Unfortunately I'm likely punting next week's games so I can't play around and start him this week. I gotta go all in to try and get a 2-0 week. Especially since I'm trying to catch and break all Ref's records. Raiders and Vikings get lucky next week.

134

Frick
ID: 42825248
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 16:20

Woohoo!

Although with the injuries I've had this year it isn't a sure thing that I'll beat you next week.

135

Great One
ID: 367493122
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 17:38

A 45-37 final? lol...

136

Toral
ID: 1294825
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 11:38

Shayne Graham is kicking for NYG if anyone wants to try to get a quick trade through. I'd be wanting a low-grade (but active) RB or a small draft upgrade.

137

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 12:53

Wow -- all my players play at 1:00 today. That's a first. None are any good, but I will surely know soon how I did this weekend...

138

Great One
ID: 367493122
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 16:28

Looks like Colt McCoy started so Cards was wrong.
13.44 means Ref and Frick were very wrong.

Good job kid. Lets see if Romo can outscore you now so I don't hurt my "coach rating"

139

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 17:14

Nice game by Kolb
Vicious hit on DJax -- the only way they will get rid of the cheap shots like that are a fine and sit out a game or half. Someone is gonna get killed or paralyzed.

140

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 09:44

138 I didn't make a prediction. I simply stated what Collins did last week and what COULD happen from the QB spot.

Man Addai was having a really nice game before he fumbled and left the game. Hope it does not cost me the Jets game as I really need this Div. game this week. I have no idea why Tate didn't get any passes. Branch just destroyed my week. Wouldn't have scored a lot more from who I had in there before switching to Tate, but I need every point this week it seems. I also meant to switch Ks and put Hanson in my lineup this week (even told Cards I was going to) and forgot. I've had interest in him the past couple weeks and held him and didn't use him. UGH!

So going into tonight I am up a little over 14 points and have the Tenn D (13.2 avg) and DL Babin (7.3). GO has CJ (16.9) and LB McRath(7.5). If everyone simply hits their avg. I'll be golden. But you know CJ is capable of going nuts at any time. Tenn D is a lot better this season, but they can give up a lot of yards too.

141

Great One
ID: 2751238
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 10:05

Anything can happen, but thats why when you have a guy starting at QB, you may as well roll him out there. I can't imagine it being more likely he gets a negative then a positive.

Yes, basically if everything holds true to form, I need CJ to have an outstanding game with a couple TD's to steal this one from you.

If there was one game on the schedule i wanted to win, it was this one. So thats disappointing. Had some of my worst regular season games last year against the Colts as well.

142

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 10:56

141: Except that playoff game! That's the most important one. But at least I overachieved enough to make the playoffs. Been a theme with me lately. Not sure how I am going to finagle my way in this season though.

143

Great One
ID: 2751238
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 11:02

Sounds like my smoke and mirrors pitching staff... it got me to September, but wasn't enough to close the deal.

144

Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 09:46

Good work Ref, best I can hope for now is a repeat of last year where I get you back in the playoffs.

I predict that game last night will be the lowest ratings of any MNF game all season.

145

Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 09:48

Oh yeah, and any rebuilding teams that D.Ryans should offer me up a veteran non-keeper IDP LB type.

146

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 16:10

[144] The MNF game still outrated the ACLS game between the Yankees (top television market) and Rangers (fifth-rated market.)

This despite the football game featuring 2 backup QBs before halftime, a close baseball game and an outstanding pitching performance by Cliff Lee.

Not all that surprising now that the NFL has surpassed MLB as America's pasttime.

I just find it ironic that without a solution to the current CBA situation, there may be no NFL season next year.

Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

148

Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 16:23

Yeah, and I do predict it'll still be the lowest rating Monday Night game of the year, and that still beats out a great playoff baseball game? So literally, MLB can't beat the NFL on its worst day lol...

My favorite all time ratings tidbit was Nascar crushing the NBA Playoffs... during a rain delay!!

149

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 14:24

The Ravens have a kicker and team defense available for trade. Joe Nedney and Jacksonville defense. Both have a week 9 bye. Email if interested. The cost is a one round upgrade near Round 5 in next years draft for each one.

150

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Thu, Oct 21, 2010, 17:08

My luck ran out a bit last week. Hill going down didn't help. Hopefully Stafford is ready to come back next week!

151

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sat, Oct 23, 2010, 19:36

Perm Dude: You need to drop a player ASAP

152

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Oct 24, 2010, 09:44

done.

153

Great One
ID: 27956257
Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 09:04

Damn glad I didn't trade for one of those defenses that were for sale, would have paid with a pick and a negative score. What the hell was going on with Oakland yesterday?

154

Peter N.
ID: 43928218
Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 11:10

Darren McFadden is what was going on with Oakland yesterday. :-)

155

Great One
ID: 27956257
Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 11:11

I drafted him #1!... then traded to Slizz. Can I get him back now?

156

judy
ID: 5321213
Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 12:26

Need HUGE game from NYJints to win tonight.

157

Peter N.
ID: 299252522
Mon, Oct 25, 2010, 23:25

RE 155: Mcfadden isn't goin anywhere. :-)

158

Frick
ID: 42825248
Tue, Oct 26, 2010, 08:10

I almost traded the Redskins D. Glad I hung on to them and left them on the bench this weekend.

159

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Oct 26, 2010, 09:58

"RE 155: Mcfadden isn't goin anywhere. :-) "

good, 0 yds rushing is more what I would like to see from him for you Pete!

160

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Oct 26, 2010, 13:46

Denver D/ST got hammered this past week. I had a bad feeling about them this week, but ignored it and it cost me a game. Still available for bye week coverage this week (SF) and week 10 (KC). Obviously at a rock bottom price.

K and TE bye week replacement also available on the cheap.

161

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Oct 26, 2010, 16:45

If someone wants to take a flyer on Maroney landing a stating job somewhere next season let me know. Also have the jax d available this week as well.

162

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Oct 26, 2010, 21:36

Looking to trade Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB, BUF

Here are his stats for the last 5 weeks:

@ NE....16 points
NYJ....21 points
Jac....21 points
Bye
@ Balt....29 points

He was on the bench the first 2 games. Still, he's the 15th ranked QB, and he's only played 4 games. He averages 21.6 points per game. I could use a good LB and/or draft picks.

163

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 27, 2010, 00:52

Record book updated in leagues forum.

164

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Wed, Oct 27, 2010, 10:14

Bush for Grant trade signals its time to look to next year. Still have some vets that could be useful for teams pushing for the playoffs.

165

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Thu, Oct 28, 2010, 11:15

Looking to move Rams DST after this week (week 8). Believe it or not, they are a top-10 defense!

Looking primarily for a skill position player (WR/RB/TE)

166

Great One
ID: 20955287
Thu, Oct 28, 2010, 11:26

How do I get one of those trophy things next to my team name for last years title?

167

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 28, 2010, 16:14

166: Not sure. Just shows up.

I could use a TE this week.

168

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 28, 2010, 16:33

Still can move one of two really nice Ks. Can make a package deal for perhaps a RB/WR and TE. Could also consider positions I need for future byes or could trade for a draft pick.

169

slizz
ID: 30921721
Fri, Oct 29, 2010, 00:33

make that two of us!

Scobee & Vinatieri!

170

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Oct 29, 2010, 08:21

I forgot, I have Kitna available to trade. He should be starting for awhile and plays Jacksonville this week.

171

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Oct 30, 2010, 15:51

Trade Announcement: Baltimore trades Kitna and his 8th round choice to San Diego for a 5th round choice. Hoping to get that done for Week 8.

172

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 31, 2010, 23:42

Looks like PD's Browns will get in the win column this week.

173

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 00:43

X2 perhaps--without a QB. A strange week all around, I'd say.

174

Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 09:50

Damn, could the AFC East pick up a few losses for god sakes?! I mean lord, I've scored 200 more points than Cincy and they've had 200 less scored against them. And this week they only get 65 and 72 points scored against again...

175

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 15:14

I will lose at least one this week. Very disappointed in my players. Just hope Schaub can pull out the win in my other game. Doesn't need a lot of points but my opponent also has a player going as well.

176

Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 15:49

I would expect a shootout tonight. I need a great game from Jacoby Jones to steal another league. So hopefully he racks up yards in a comeback and gets 10 kickoff returns lol...

177

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 23:44

Well I think that fumble on the last play of the game cost me the win. Unreal.

178

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 23:45

unreal. I was watching it, thinking he'd just dump it off like the last 10 plays.

179

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 23:48

I think the culprit was Gettis

180

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 01, 2010, 23:54

Wish i hadn't gotten him off waivers. What's really funny is that I would have started Tate had I not gotten him. What's worse, no one needed a TE, so I waited to see if a trade came about before I got the NO backup TE and B7 snagged him for his bench. That 1.5 would have been the diff too. I did grab a scrub TE who got me no points. Who knew I could have started a WR who didn't play at all and would have gotten me a win. I need some adjustments overnight now lol. Maybe I can check the PBP and hope for double turnover plays or something. ;)

181

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Nov 02, 2010, 18:28

Wow thought for sure I had the week there. 0.1 away!

182

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Nov 03, 2010, 00:19

Anybody need a PK this week or next? I have Mare for a round 5/6 draft upgrade. There is no FA of value to my team (my team has its own value issues without adding any more losers...) for me to pick up to drop him so I will probably keep him until the byes are gone, just in case I can get something for him...

183

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Nov 03, 2010, 21:41

Trade needing commish approval...
Judy's Cardinals PK Mare to YR's Bengals team

Thanks.

184

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 00:10

What's the full trade?

185

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 00:16

add in a swap of 5 and 7 draft picks. Judy gets his 5, YR gets her 7.

186

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 08:38

Heap available for anyone needing a TE the next two weeks and I have a kicker available as well.

187

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Thu, Nov 04, 2010, 15:35

Have a choice of 2 K available for bye week coverage for a modest pick upgrade.

188

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 05, 2010, 11:11

Still looking for a DST who won't lose me points. I'm leaning toward keeping both of my Ks at this point unless I get something which will truly help me.

189

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Nov 05, 2010, 12:38

last chance to get the Bills Defense. otherwise they will get the Randy Moss treatment tomorrow, which means I will waive them. I can't guarantee that they will score positive points this week, but they only play the Bears, so I'd say it is likely that they will do it.

190

Great One
ID: 53105119
Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 11:20

Damn, I haven't been a true underdog in a while, but Slizz's Bills have higher projected guys at almost every position.

Can we reverse that Matt Ryan for Romo deal yet? Ryan was beating Romo even before the injury...

191

Great One
ID: 53105119
Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 11:23

and if SD/HOU don't combine for like 80 points this week with Houston playing catchup I'm screwed.

192

judy
ID: 9729212
Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 13:23

shoot -- forgot to start Pettigrew after the good med report...

193

slizz
ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 07, 2010, 20:44

lol...i know! I didn't think highly of Romo although he did have a tasty fantasy football line. I think that will continue next year for you though.

I was telling Ref, had you played Spurlock over Walter you'd have a 16 point lead on me with Timmons/Mendenhall left. Your late sub for Ajirotutu paid off by +3 but thats just the breaks.

We each have adjustments (Suh's missed PAT and Arenas' fumble) though, so in the end it netted out.

Also, how ridiculously close is the AFC Wildcard race!?!?!

There are still 7 teams in it before this weekends games kicked off and it looks to be a dogfight to the end.

194

Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 08:43

Seriously, the Packers D got Promize 42 points and my DL missed an XP? what else could go wrong this week?!

195

Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 11:29

Pretty amazing I added two guys this week for free in Spurlock and Ajirotutu who both rocked for 20 points but Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter both put up a stinker in a shootout game.

And Colt McCoy continues to impress... love that guy.

At least I keep up my rep as King of The Wire... KOTW! :)

196

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 13:15

Might be time for me to gut. I will get the occasional nice week, but don't have the crew to pull it off consistently. Hanson got hurt too. Glad I didn't trade Longwell!!!

197

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 13:19

No QB, no problems -- 2 wins for AZ!

Look out here I come!

198

Great One
ID: 20955287
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 13:25

Judy you sound like the real Eagles... they don't have a QB either. They have a RB who takes the snaps and occasionally throws! :)

I will be locking for a kicker for week 10 whoever still has 2.

199

Frick
ID: 21016718
Mon, Nov 08, 2010, 13:54

I have 2 GO, take your pick and the price will be cheap.

200

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 09, 2010, 08:58

CBS sometimes misses things that we have to manually adjust. Remember you have up until the next weeks games start to alert the league/commishs of a scoring error. Slizz correctly identified two errors in his game. The Suh Missed XP and the Arenas fumble which went against him. No clue how CBS missed the fumble lost as returns count in our game anyhow. They counted those fumbles even when returns didn't count. SO no idea. Bottom line, if you lose by a close margin, it might behoove you to go through your other team's players to see if there is anything CBS missed. Unlikely, but you never know.

201

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 20:27

Thursday game this week.

202

slizz
ID: 30921721
Wed, Nov 10, 2010, 20:59

I know its late notice, but Scobee can be had on the very cheap for anyone looking to cover a week 10 kicker bye!

203

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 11, 2010, 18:36

I just saw this trade. Had an email notice on my phone but thought it was set lineup reminder. Not sure if the players are playing tonight but I approved it, so you have time to get them in your lineup if need be. In the future, if you do a late trade, please email myself and Cards to see if we can possibly approve it by game-time.

204

Great One
ID: 4110471110
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 09:08

Thanks Ref, nobody involved in that Thursday game but thanks for checking.

Its say I've had #1 Schedule Difficulty so that makes me understand this season a bit better. But I'm curious if thats based on points against or on opponents record who I played against. Anyone have an idea?

205

Frick
ID: 21016718
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 10:20

I got burned by this. I saw the message that the trade had been approved, but didn't think about switching my kickers until around half-time when I started watching after the kids were in bed.

Do we get 0 points for illegal line-ups?

206

Great One
ID: 4110471110
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 10:38

Oh crap Frick, I didn't think about the guys that weren't actually involved. I guess I assumed you already swapped them out.

207

Frick
ID: 21016718
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 10:43

No, I didn't realize who was playing didn't pay attention. Completely my fault. I had two middle of the pack kickers, I essentially swapped them out based on byes and possibly match-ups, but I would have been hard pressed to name them without looking at my team. One of the downsides to playing in multiple leagues. It isn't going to significantly impact my place in the standings this year, but I didn't want people to think I tanked the game on purpose.

208

Great One
ID: 4110471110
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 10:45

I was gonna say I'd trade you Hartley for the week or something but I forgot the whole reason I bought the other K was to cover the bye.

Can you still trade Bryant to someone who has 2 kickers or is he frozen for the week? Then you could just swap Bryant for Scobee or someone random like that. Bryant would be an upgrade for some, but I also don't think he's a keeper so it wouldn't really hurt you.

209

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 21:17

It's obvious that the intent was to start Bryant. It would make no sense to leave a K on the bench and be illegal and he was on your team all along. I talked to ref and we are going to insert Bryant into the active lineup retroactively.

210

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 21:39

Just so the most recent trade is clear, it was:

PD gives Brandon Jackson

GO gives Colt McCoy + 2011 3rd round pick

211

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Nov 12, 2010, 23:17

204: no GO, I've had the #1 lineup. You have a 2nd place schedule. It is based on reg. season. I've had a lot of bad luck it seems, but to be honest, my team isn't that good right now. Need Addai back in the worst way. I had Snelling in my lineup but read that he was out this week so I witched 1 rushing yard Ricky back in, only to watch the game and not only did Snelling play, but scored a TD. Unreal.

Cards summed up our thoughts on the Frick situation and even though the ATL K is locked, he could have still made a trade to get a K who hadn't played yet or even picked up a FA K--whether he is even on a team or not in order to not be illegal. If I had noticed his team was illegal after the trade, I'd have fixed it for him. Therefore, I have no issues with inserting him. If he had two Ks on his bench, it may have been more of an issue. But then again, he'd have had to have both Ks whow ere playing.

212

Great One
ID: 53105119
Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 10:07

So if my schedule is a "2nd Place Schedule" why is it #1 Schedule Difficulty on the preview page according to CBS now I guess is the question. I'm curious how they arrive at that.

It has a description when you hover over the thing but its still a bit confusing. I'm thinking it might be a week by week thing... like your 2 opponents for the week maybe?

213

Toral
ID: 489121816
Sat, Nov 13, 2010, 11:40

It's a season-long thing, not a week-to-week thing. It doesn't correlate exactly with points against, but the 2 teams with most points against are 2nd and 3rd is SD.

214

slizz
ID: 1710161519
Mon, Nov 15, 2010, 20:30

Ref...i can't believe Bowe singlehandedly is keeping you in the playoff hunt.

215

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 01:30

About time. I can't figure out who to start. I'm in shock I came back to beat you. I've given away too many games this season by doing that. I need addai and another RB I think. Perfect scenario would be Addai come back and Turner goes down.

216

Frick
ID: 21016718
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 08:32

My choice didn't impact the outcome of either game, but if I had swapped my D's I would have had a 21.5 point swing. The Redskins have outperformed the Cowboys this year, except for last night. Ouch.

217

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 09:22

2nd highest points for the week and I still lose. Didn't like Vick before and now I really don't!

218

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 11:16

I had already written myself off. Just looked at my remaining schedule and weeks 12 and 13 are especially brutal. Have to play the best two teams and then the 2nd best two teams respectively. I am only a game out, but can't tie as my PF tie-break is so far behind the Bills and Jets that it's moot. I'm stuck right now because I want to blow up my team for next season and yet, with some breaks I could be pretty good.

219

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 11:27

It's quite a race for the wildcard spots in the NFC. 4 teams for 2 spots, all within 2 games. And the NFC South is still up for grabs.

220

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 12:15

Actually it's for 3 spots. No one in NFC North has a chance at the wildcard.

221

Great One
ID: 4110471110
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 12:24

Ref - your team sounds like the real Vikings... and you do have Favre, so thats funny. Its the same choices.

222

Toral
ID: 489121816
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 12:42

Everyone in the NFC South has a divisional record of either 3-4 or 4-3.

223

Great One
ID: 4110471110
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 14:34

PD - check this out - hopefully he continues to help the real and G24 Browns alike cause I love the kid.

Colt McCoy, Browns - Jets ILB David Harris came away from the overtime victory raving about the Browns' rookie quarterback. "He is playing with a lot of confidence and playing lights-out football," said Harris. "Watch out. Whoever is playing him next, get ready and buckle up."

224

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 18:56

Last two trades -- I sure hope there is more to them -- very lopsided esp the pennington one (he's done for career in my mind)

225

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 19:55

Chargers get Jets 6th round pick in 2011 and 9th round in 2012.

Jets get Chargers 11th round picks in 2011 and 2012.

Basically Kitna for pick upgrades. Pennington allows the trade to pass through without the Jets dropping a player to keep his roster legal.

226

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 21:23

the other trade also hsd

11-16 Ravens get Jets 4th Round Pick for their 11th Round Pick

all draft pick trades are documented in the rules

227

Peter N.
ID: 2210281621
Tue, Nov 16, 2010, 22:28

Yeah, the NFC South has notoriously been a tough division. With the additions of Nerf and Valk, its become even more tough. It should be fun down the stretch!

228

slizz
ID: 381020719
Sun, Nov 21, 2010, 11:05

hey...i'll trade you best for mcfadden?

whattya say? :)

229

Toral
ID: 2110462217
Mon, Nov 22, 2010, 18:56

Ouch. Nicks's leg pretty well finishes me for the playoff hunt. To think it was not too many weeks ago that I was thinking that my WR depth was a big plus during the bye weeks. Now Britt--Collie--Sims-Walker--Nicks join the RBs Thomas and Stewart. 6 quality players with those neat little crosses besides their names.

230

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 10:24

I hear ya Toral. Injuries has me outside of the playoffs looking in. I've lost several close games and did so again this week, but also finally won a close game too. I knew Hunter couldn't duplicate last week, but that wold have got me enough to win both games.

Just did a quick look of the standings after adjusstments. If the season ended now:

AFC
1. Bengals
2. Chargers
3. Bills
4. Raiders

Outside looking in: Colts, Texans, Jets

NFC:
1. Bears
2. Eagles
3. Lions
4. Cowboys

Outside Looking in: 49ers, Saints, Seahawks

231

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Nov 23, 2010, 11:49

Coming in to this season I would've been thrilled to have a non-losing record. Now, I am vying for the division title, and 2-2 gets me in the playoffs. With a backup-backup QB and practically no RB all season.

Best move I made since I came on was keeping the Bears. This was actually my last keeper choice, but I trusted CBS' projections and figured I couldn't let a 10+ppg player go, no matter who it was.

232

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 11:32

Wonderful. I get to play the two first place teams this week.

233

slizz
ID: 1710161519
Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 12:54

Ugh...I am gonna have to scratch and claw...Dwayne Bowe and Judy's IDPs might do me in!

234

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 15:02

Slizz, you have games on us and points. You're in great shape. Shaub's INT the last play of the game a couple weeks back cost me big and Addai's injury has left me with a defeatist attitude about my team. If I can pull a huge score this week somehow and win both games, then things would change--but don't see that happening.

Record book is updated in the standings forum.

235

judy
ID: 9729212
Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 15:43

Love my IDP's!!! Esp since my ODP's are not too reliable...

236

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Wed, Nov 24, 2010, 18:58

Ref, since you updated the record book, I am missing the following. the Bengals are not mentioned often in all these categories, so it is good to see that my team nearly broke a record earlier this season.

consecutive games with win:
4. 12 YR's Bengals (10 Wk 4 - 10 Wk 9)

237

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Nov 25, 2010, 00:25

236: You are right! Thanks. Will be updated on next post. A lot easier doing it now than it was when we played single games but quite an accomplishment nonetheless.

Consecutive Games w/Win
1. 13 Ref's Colts (02 Wk 10 - 03 Wk 6)
1. 13 Cards' 49ers (07 Wk 5 G2 - Wk 11 G2)
1. 13 GO' Jets (09 Wk 11 G2 - 10 Wk 2 G1)
4. 12 Cards' 49ers (05 Wk 6 - 06 Wk 1)
4. 12 YR's Bengals (10 Wk 4 G1 - Wk 9 G2)

238

skinneej
ID: 2210322423
Thu, Nov 25, 2010, 00:32

Cadillac, Heap, Branch...just some of the players available to help those playoff teams for the push. Good games from them the past few weeks and could give your team depth or a boost. Inquire within...

239

Great One
ID: 53105119
Thu, Nov 25, 2010, 19:30

Anyone know where to stream the game online? email...

240

Great One
ID: 471018298
Mon, Nov 29, 2010, 09:27

who would have thought I could survive a 0.7 from Chris Johnson?! Very fortunate this week.

I might need to trade Andre Johnson if there is a suspension coming cause I can't afford to be missing games.
Anyone out of contention with a comprable WR to Andre should open up some discussions on a swap.

241

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 11:51

I would like to explore the possibility of doing away with double headers next year. It does have the advantage that we get to play every team, but to me it lessens any sense of rivalry and limits strategy based on bye weeks. I used to have a nice rivalry with the Seahawks, now I'm not even sure if I've played them or not. Division games always got me fired up before now it's just another game. As far as bye weeks, I used to always compare my lineup with potential bye weeks to my opponents and any potential bye weeks and try to make moves or non moves accordingly. Now it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

Maybe it's just me, but this last week of the season seems to highlight it. Really hasn't been any smack talk or mention of big games all year. Now we have several teams battling for a playoff spot, but it's not even worth trying to write something up because it is all too convoluted.

242

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 13:30

You make a decent point Cards, the flip side is teams that are high scoring and still lose because of bad luck with their match-up each week. It's at least worth a discussion. And an 18 week schedule and changes in post season byes could also have an impact.

Although I just realized you have the 3nd most points in the NFC and I don't think you have a shot at the play-offs.

In the AFC the top two scoring teams are fighting for the wild-card spots and the odds are against both of them making the play-offs.

I'm not sure which is the better solution. Double headers was supposed to help prevent those situations, but it doesn't (at least this year) appear to be doing so.

243

Toral
ID: 2110462217
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 14:59

I love DHs. My sense of rivalry is not diminished by the 2nd game. My division rivals remain as dangerous and evil as ever, even if we all get a break playing slack teams sometimes.

244

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 15:35

I also like the DHs, but I am open to discussions of course.

Other ideas we might want to consider are:

-INT scoring...should they lose a point?
-All points scored regardless of position (O players get credit for tackling?)
-DST not being penalized when points are directly scored because of an offensive turnover

18 weeks would mean that we get to play everyone twice but then with that extra week we could start the playoffs at the same time and bring in two more teams IIRC.

245

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 15:43

Yahoo gives offensive players points for tackles in my IDP leagues, so many of us are familiar with that. Also they will get a special teams tackle which I think is even more worthwhile. Like I got a couple extra points out of Woodhead one week because of he was also covering kickoffs.

246

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 15:45

I like the doubleheaders as well. Its a change of pace from my other formats. I do wish there was a way to set 2 different lineups though. Like I've got a WR and my opponent has his QB, I might start a different WR to avoid many of my points being cancelled out.

247

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 15:52

before I start individual discussions I want to give a shout out to all of you: I need a starting QB ! or an injury of Favre, Delhomme or Collins.

if you want to part with one of yours, send me a message. depending on the quality of the QB I can send you an early to middle round draft pick or even one of my players. I will get back to you tomorrow.

248

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 16:02

Playoff look entering final week:

AFC:
1. YR's Bengals 18-6 has a spot locked up.
2. mjd's Chargers 17-7 also has a spot locked up.
3. Slizz Bills 14-10 2895PF. Has a spot locked up with two wins due to PF tiebreak
4. GO's Jets 14-10 2864PF. Will also clinch a spot with two wins due to PF tiebreak.

Outside looking in:
5. Ref's Colts 14-10 2649 PF. Will also clinch a spot with two wins since he plays the Jets and Raiders. If he beats Jets but loses to Raiders, he could still get in but would need some help. Same if he splits with a Jets loss.
6. Doug's Raiders 14-10 2598 PF. Needs to win both and hope that the Jets or Bills split or worse. Will lose every tie break as it stands now.
7. bmd's Texans 13-11 2576 PF Must win both and hope for a lot of luck. Loses all tiebreaks.

NFC
1. CCR's Bears 18-6 Clinched playoff spot
2. DS' Eagles 17-7 Clinched playoff spot
3. Nerf's Lions 16-8 2608PF Clinched playoff spot due to PFs
4. Peter N's Cowboys 14-10 2410 PFs Will clinch Playoff spot with two wins, but low PFs could get knocked out if he loses even one game. If he loses to the 49ers he's probably out.

Outside looking in.
5. Cards' 49ers 13-11 2727 PF. Real simple. He plays the Cowboys this week so if he wins both, he makes the playoffs.

6-7 The Saints and Cardinals are both 12-12, but have no chance of making the playoffs because the Cowboys and 49ers will get a win because they play each other. The 49ers PF are so high that it doesn't matter. So it's a two team race for the final spot.

It is fun that there are games against each other to make the playoffs with the Jets/Colts/Raiders/Cowboys/49ers.

249

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 16:07

Yeah, its basically like the first round of the playoffs for some of us... win and advance... lose and go home... I feel like I always struggle vs. Ref's Colts for whatever reason, so I'm pretty worried. Hopefully Johnson & Johnson show up this week. 0.7 from the #1 guy isn't gonna cut it again.

250

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 18:05

This is also the last week for trades and there is also a Thursday game. All trades subject to a commish being available to accept the trade as well so get them in early. Any player with a Thursday game will be locked as of the Thursday freeze, but trading of non-locked players can continue until the Sunday freeze with the caveat of a commish being available.

251

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Nov 30, 2010, 23:21

The deadline for trades will be Saturday night of week 13 (Players whose teams go on Thursday have up until that freeze).

252

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 01, 2010, 11:27

I'm looking for a consistent RB or possibly a WR for this week.

253

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Wed, Dec 01, 2010, 11:56

Hill might be out for the season, so looking for a QB for the playoffs. Willing to trade Rams D (vs. AZ this week) or draft picks. Depending on value of QB, maybe more.

254

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Wed, Dec 01, 2010, 12:56

Still have several quality players I can move for teams needing a push. Heap, Branch and Caddy have all put up good numbers last few weeks, and I could also possibly move Ocho Cinco and Peppers for the right deal

255

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Wed, Dec 01, 2010, 13:21

256

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Wed, Dec 01, 2010, 14:24

thanks for the QB offers, but I finally had some luck: Hill injured. Stanton available. Stanton picked up. Stanton starting. Stanton finishing out the season? I'll take the risk and don't need to force a trade. it seems that this is now Nerfherder's business.

257

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 00:47

Kerry Collins available for QB needs since he is expected to start for TEN.

258

deepsnapper
ID: 5311928
Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 09:10

<249> GO - It seems I held that title the first 3-4 yrs in the league. Ref had a bulls-eye on my back & he couldn't miss. I couldn't beat him even when he didn't have a QB, RB, etc.

Getting a break in the lottery & picking AP was the turning point for me. So the worm does turn. lol

259

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 13:06

With regard to my trade with Frick:

Without a win in the playoffs, I will give him my 2nd and 6th round picks.

-or-

If I make the semifinals of the playoffs (ie win the first round), I will give him my 2nd and 4th round picks.

-or-

If I win the championship, I will give him my 1st and 4th round picks.

260

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 13:39

249 & 258 GO has beaten me a few times actually including last year's playoffs. I've had Slizz's number more than anyone and he got me this season finally. I have losing records to a few teams.

I will check the trades to make sure those picks are available and if so will approve. Make sure your lineups are adjusted before game time if applicable.

261

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Dec 03, 2010, 10:59

Sigh -- last year's SuperBowl Runner up (AZ) is way out of contention this year. When they went to Vick, I was left with McNabb... and DJax is a mess with Rosenhaus advising him. Hopefully Bush and Woodhead will fill in for my woeful RB situation in 2011.

I also like DH -- would prefer to be able to set 2 different lineups but that is not crucial.

Tackles by anyone is new to RIFC and I like it -- it works! Does CBS do tackles for loss??

262

Doug
ID: 411040141
Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 09:07

Was sitting in 2nd place 1 point back in pick 'ems (behind Chicago, when you factor in the "drop your lowest score" piece) and 1 point ahead of SF. Close race.

Realized this morning I never set pick 'ems. Crap!

This is Chicago's 2nd zero, so he drops to 7 points back... and SF will remain 1 point behind me. Bengals and Seahawks have a chance to make up some ground this week if they picked well.

The way I see it, I basically got an 8 this week, since that was a score that didn't count previously but now it does. Bengals Seahawks gain ground if they do better than their current low score (10 in both cases).

Oakland - 171
San Fran - 170
Seahawks - 166 + (this week - 10)
Bengals - 163 + (this week - 10)
Bears - 164

Seahawks could definitely take the lead, or at very least tie up with Oak or SF this week. Bengals with a 14 or better will move back into striking distance. Bears are gonna have a tough time outplaying 4 other teams (assuming we remember to set lineups from here on out).

263

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 10:29

Funny that only two remembered to make the picks this week and the rest of us forgot on the same week.

264

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 14:07

Guess I should have just kept and started the Jaguars D like I had planned on. Not looking good with Harvin out as well.

265

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 14:20

have we seen the last play of Brett Favre? Tavaris Jackson is in and the offense is clicking. I waited for this all season. at least I have Drew Stanton in there this week who isn't looking that bad either.

266

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 14:21

TD Stanton. He's looking good.

267

Peter N.
ID: 2210281621
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 14:49

WTF has happened to Moss. It'd be nice if he could remember how to catch a ball.

268

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 16:26

Seahawks already gave up more pts than did the Jags all game, and a Goodson TD no less

269

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 18:43

It's funny how i had such bad luck to so many players all the same week.

270

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 19:44

I've just become a huge fan of the Jets Defense. Go Jets! Monday games have been killing me, time for a turnaround!

271

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 20:09

Wayne finally has a huge game. Couldve used that next week!

272

Doug
ID: 411040141
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 21:49

Looking like Raiders and Jets will likely both go 2-0 to reach 16-10 and claim the 2 AFC wildcard spots.

If Frisco beats Cowboys to tie them at 15-11 (assuming Cowboys hold against Cardinals) they'll get in to last NFC wildcard spot because of YTD points advantage.

273

Great One
ID: 53105119
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 22:07

Once again winning in spite of Chris Johnson... hopefully he can wake up for the playoffs. The Indy run defense might be the cure for that on Thursday.

I gotta think if I do make the playoffs, that I'm one of the few teams in the playoffs that will have Chris Johnson on a roster cause I can't imagine he's carried anyone else to a good record.

As I said during the draft, Amendola has been the best pick of the (late) draft. He's been my team MVP.

274

Doug
ID: 411040141
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 22:10

Ivory 3 rounds later has served me well, maybe not week-in week-out, but definitely helped secure the wildcard this week when it counted. He's put up a couple other good games as well.

275

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 22:28

For me it's been the player taken right after Ivory, Peyton Hillis.

276

Great One
ID: 53105119
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 22:40

Hillis has been absolutely ridiculous. Saved my F101 season cause I added him on whim before week 1. Where did Arian Foster go?

277

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 22:52

Foster went 1.06 in our league

278

Doug
ID: 411040141
Sun, Dec 05, 2010, 23:17

Yeah I think Hillis wins the value for draft spot competition. :)

279

Promize@Home
ID: 87451913
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 07:47

Anyone else having issues with CBS? I really haven't been able to fully connect to the website since kickoff yesterday.

I've tried IE, Firefox, etc and it just clocks to load. No other issues with other sites.

Sort of looks like others made it in ok to watch scores?

Just curious

280

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 08:17

I had no problems Promize

281

Peter N.
ID: 3111969
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 10:09

I'm going to need a magical Monday night from Brady. I guess anything is possible. I am kicking myself for not starting Rhodes. That could easily be the difference. Either way, I hope Brady can make Cards sweat it out some. :-)

282

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 10:59

Well Pete, 2 of the last 3 games had Brady with 30 pts, one of which was vs the Steelers. I'm hoping more for the 12 pts he had vs the Jets the first time and also hoping for a few missed FGs as well!

283

Great One
ID: 471018298
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 11:19

I wonder if Revis will cover Welker all night... or if they will let him get his 5 yard slants and Cromartie/Revis shut down Tate/Branch instead. Thats gonna be interesting to see their defensive plan. And if Revis does shadow one guy in particular or not. Since he's been healthy the last month he has shut down Calvin, Andre and T.O.

284

slizz
ID: 541128615
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 16:28

smh :(

what an epic fail.

285

Great One
ID: 471018298
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 17:56

Keep an eye out in the crowd tonight for a mannequin with a Mark Sanchez jersey on... if we see it, I'll tell you how they got it in there.

286

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 22:55

cowboys/49ers are coming down to the wire. Brady has gone nuts. This game is for the playoffs. I know both Pete and Cards are glued to the tv/cbs scoring!

287

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 23:00

Looks like Pete's squad has done it. WOW!

288

Peter N.
ID: 2210281621
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 23:13

Wow! Wow! Wow! Not much else to say. Thanks Tom. :-)

289

Peter N.
ID: 2210281621
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 23:14

Oh, and an honorable mention to Graham who hasn't goofed an extra point. ;-)

290

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 06, 2010, 23:21

No, I quit watching long ago. I didn't realize just how crappy the Jets were till now. They certainly aren't superbowl worthy. I'm also used to NE killing me as I lost a game in another league on a Monday night when the NE D went nuts.

291

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 00:19

Congrats Pete!

Playoff rules are now in effect. If you don't know what they are then read the rules.

There's also another Thursday game coming up so it is going to have to be a quick turnaround.

292

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 08:31

Independent of not starting Law-Firm over Fitzgerald, Hillis, or TO vs what I considered would be a great D in the Jets, I thought the last drive pick by my QB Freeman vs Pete's Falcons D might have been the difference, but that would still have left me .4 pts short. Then I saw the real play that cost me the game on the news this morning when they were making fun of Leon Jones celebrating prematurely on a kickoff return and getting tackled on the 1 yd line by the punter costing me 6 pts for the Seattle D!

Of course we all have things like that every week, but I could have done without seeing that lol.

293

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 08:49

The best part of that was the punter getting in Leon's face after tripping him up from behind. My favorite moment of this NFL season.

Most impressive throw for me all year? the 25 yard out Matty Ice Ryan threw to Roddy on 3&20 in the 4th quarter this week. Anybody see that throw? That was big time. That was that deep out they say guys lacking the big arm (i.e. a Pennington) cannot make... now I see why you need the arm AND accuracy.

And lets not overreact to the Jets D... Brady/Belichek have made a lot of teams look bad on wintry nights in Foxboro. Was also their first game after losing Leonard for the year and Brady attacked that all night. Rex is too smart a defensive coach to not figure out a way to adjust.

294

Peter N.
ID: 2210281621
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 09:04

Thanks 'Cards. I know that is a brutal way to lose so I appreciate the props. I thought starting Mccann over Rhodes would cost me, but Brady delivered. I couln't believe what I was watching last night. Talk about getting your a$$ kicked and being embarrassed.

295

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 09:12

and as a Jets D owner, I'm also excited that happened this week prior the playoffs and it didn't impact my outcomes.
They should go into this game vs. Miami pretty angry... this is the same defense that scored 31 points vs. Cincy the week before carrying me to a win.

296

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 09:40

And lets not overreact to the Jets D...

HaHa, that comment was meant for you as a way for me to vent! Will definitely be interesting to see how they respond.

297

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 09:56

Yeah, they intelligently went right after Leonards replacement and just kept attacking... and Eric Smith looked horrible trying to cover the TE's especially. But I wouldn't bet against Rex coming up with a way to fix the situation.

If Miami eats them up next week, then that would be real cause of concern. Last night was the perfect storm. That same defense held NE to 14 points in their first meeting.

298

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 09:57

but of course here in the tri-state NYC area, the media is claiming the sky is falling...

299

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 11:31

WK 14 schedule has been entered. Will post more later. Remember that everyone plays this week in a single elimination tourney with your group. See rules for more details.

300

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 15:42

Remember the rule we added last season:

Once the final freeze of week 13 occurs, The 16 teams not in the Super Bowl Playoffs may NOT make any adds or drops. The 8 playoff teams may make moves throughout the playoffs. HOWEVER, any player added or dropped during the playoffs will be ineligible as a keeper the following season, even if he was on the roster at the end of the regular season. A commish will remove all ineligible keepers sometime after we crown a champion.

It is critical that anyone NOT among the top 8 teams to not try and pick up anyone. Doing so could impact the top 8 teams by removing a player from the pool and messing up waivers requests. Violations will likely result in penalties i.e. loss of draft picks, etc. Will send an email too so everyone is fully aware.

301

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 15:43

Freeze is this Thursday?

302

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 15:54

Final 2010 Regular Season Standings
1. Cincinnati Bengals
2. Chicago Bears
3. Philadelphia Eagles
4. San Diego Chargers
5. Detroit Lions
6. New York Jets
7. Oakland Raiders
8. Dallas Cowboys

9. Buffalo Bills
10. San Francisco 49ers
11. Indianapolis Colts
12. Houston Texans
13. New Orleans Saints
14. Arizona Cardinals
15. Kansas City Chiefs
16. Jacksonville Jaguars
17. Seattle Seahawks
18. New York Giants
19. Carolina Panthers
20. Denver Broncos
21. Baltimore Ravens
22. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
24. Cleveland Browns

303

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 15:55

The freeze was last Sunday for all non-playoff teams.

304

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 16:03

Doh, right. Week 13. thanks.

305

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 16:13

Week 14 Matchups

Championship
AFC
Home Visitor
Cincinnati Bengals Oakland Raiders
San Diego Chargers New York Jets

NFC
Home Visitor
Chicago Bears Dallas Cowboys
Philadelphia Eagles Detroit Lions

Wannabe
Home Visitor
Buffalo Bills Jacksonville Jaguars
San Francisco 49ers Kansas City Chiefs
Indianapolis Colts Arizona Cardinals
Houston Texans New Orleans Saints

Toilet
Home Visitor
Seattle Seahawks Cleveland Browns
New York Giants Green Bay Packers
Carolina Panthers Minnesota Vikings
Denver Broncos Baltimore Ravens

306

Great One
ID: 471018298
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 16:54

Can't you lock the 16 non-playoff teams from doing add/drops? thats what I do in F101 on Yahoo. Then you don't leave it up to them.

307

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 16:59

What happens to the ww claim order for the teams who can make moves?

308

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 17:07

306 Add/drops have indeed been locked for the 16 non-playoff teams. However, if there was a claim put in previously, it will still run. Hence the post and email.

307 Nothing. Same order as regular season but you will not be keeping the player you pickup or drop after this season.

309

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 18:37

Franchise Standings are posted in standings forum.

Some ridiculous things I noticed. Slizz's Bills had the 2nd most points (just 7 point sshy of hte most) and didn't make the playoffs (would have been the Bills' first ever inclusion).

I had some horrible luck losing two different weeks where I scored over 140. Lost a game on the last play of the game when the QB fumbled the ball after I had the game won. Then lost another week by less than a point where the QB decided to throw a late pick. But it gets better...I then go on to lose by .35 and in the same week lose by less than 6 points to the 2nd worst team in the league. But was fortunate one week winning by less than 3 and split a week where I only scored 73 points.

310

Doug
ID: 411040141
Tue, Dec 07, 2010, 23:20

Yeah, a number of leagues I'm in we have the last playoff wildcard go to the team remaining with the most points (regardless of record) to try and mitigate against a deserving team getting excluded... but those are mostly leagues with fewer teams/games and where like half the league (makes the playoffs). I don't think with only 2 wildcards per conference it would be appropriate to institute that rule here though (I can't recall if I suggested it previously, I may have even argued for it because I do like the idea in principle, lol)... but it definitely is unfortunate luck.

311

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 00:56

I don't like the most points for getting a wc spot. Might as well just ditch h2h and play roto style. Patriots aren't any better because they layed 45 pts on the jets. My take on it anyway.

312

Toral
ID: 571151721
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 01:21

Agree with Cards. It's a tough league. Ading some welfare rules won't make it easier; it's just a palliative.

313

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 07:28

There was a mention of the dilution in importance in division games with doubleheaders. That effect would be even greater with a spot going to total points. There is going to be a good team not in the play-offs in the NFC this year, while a potentially 8-8 or worse team in the NFC West is in.

314

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 09:53

Agree with the last three. I thought we measured success in this league based upon wins.

Once in awhile the team with the most points won't make the playoffs. But if it is the case that the team with the most points loses out of the playoffs to a team with more wins, then I'd say the team with more wins is more deserving.

315

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 14:11

If the NFL goes to 18 games, my idea is that we will have 10 teams in the playoffs with the div winners getting a bye. That would mean 3 wildcard teams and each team getting to play every other team. We might also be able to go to 3 divisions in two conferences where we have 3 winners and two wild cards, but am not sure that will work out perfectly.

316

Great One
ID: 471018298
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 14:41

18 games is the perfect solution to us finally having bye weeks for top seeds and getting 2 more teams in on each side, however we arrive at that.

317

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 15:43

Right now I'm more worried about what happens when there is a lock out next year.

318

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Dec 08, 2010, 17:54

RE: 310-314

My Packers finished with the 2nd most regular season points in both of the last two seasons, and missed the playoffs both years. Now it's 3 years in a row that a team has missed it under the same circumstances, so yes it's something we should really consider especially with possible playoff expansion re:315.

319

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Thu, Dec 09, 2010, 02:26

So then the team with more pts bumps a team with more wins? What if there are two teams with more pts in one division than the other? Then does say the AFC get 3 wc's and the NFC 1? You can find fault with just about any system really. I wouldn't want to be the team with more wins that got bumped, that's for sure.

320

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 09, 2010, 11:24

This is a really tough league. The DHs has mitigated some of the luck associated with it. There has been three times IIRC this season where the 2nd highest score got beat but at least was able to split.

There aren't many players and not a huge bench so teams are forced to make tough decisions esp. during bye weeks. Those weeks are key because some teams will do what they can to fill a hole to either try and win or at least score as many points as they can. Often times those weeks are critical to your playoff chances either for that critical W or two or the tie-breaking points. This is also good because it often keeps teams from trying to stash players or going to deep at a certain position.

In RIFC AAA2, I was knocked out of the playoffs by a team who scored more points than me. It's the rules and always has been, so I am not miffed at all by it. But fundamentally, we are playing H2H and the wins are key. It's not a Power Rankings or a Roto league. It is an inherent possibility that you may have more points than those who make the playoffs. Happens in the NFL too. Perhaps a team could have traded one of their players to get more consistency? Perhaps they didn't cover their bye weeks properly? We've already went to a Points For tiebreak instead of a H2H or Div record. We did that because of the byes and for an incentive for teams to try and put their best lineup/cover byes even when it appeared to be a sure loss.

In the current system, I would be against adding PF to the playoff system. If the NFL goes to 18 games and someone wants to propose that the 3rd wildcard in each conference goes to the highest remaining PFs then I'll be open for someone to sway me, but IIRC, the highest PF to not get in was always the very next one anyhow (3rd Wildcard).

321

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Thu, Dec 09, 2010, 11:35

I like the RIFC use of points for the last 2 spots, but that is also a non-keeper, non-division league.

There are some teams that knowingly tank a given week, and it can be a very successful strategy if you are able to line-up the majority of your bye weeks for your starters. That can be tough to do with keepers, but in a league this deep, dealing with bye weeks is a significant portion of the game. If we start giving out spots based on total points, those strategies are not as useful and you need to go for maximum points over the entire season, not look at your match-ups. That seems to take even more away from the division rivalries.

322

Peter N.
ID: 151122921
Thu, Dec 09, 2010, 22:22

Hey Randy, wake the f!@# up. You're on primetime and laying an egg so far. Thanks

323

Great One
ID: 01122913
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 08:49

I bet that garbage TD at the end covered the point spread... and gamblers were screaming at Millen for suggesting they kick the FG as part of the two score plan.

Thanks Chris Johnson for waking up. Lets keep up the good work, you got 2 weeks left. Hopefully.

324

Peter N.
ID: 151122921
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 08:51

0 targets for Moss. That about sums up his stint with the Titans. I considered starting McCluster over him this week, but thought playing on primetime against a weak secondary might wake Moss up. We'll see how that plays out. At this point, I don't even know if I can keep Moss. Its amazing how fast he's fallen.

325

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 09:02

His keeper status is going to depend on where he goes. I'm sure he is going to want a ton of money, but how many teams are going to be willing to give him that money knowing that if they are not winning, he is going to be a huge cancer in the locker room?

326

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 09:40

Who would have thought TO would have a better year than Moss Not me.

327

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 09:42

Actually looks like Moss is no longer even a starter according to rototimes

328

slizz
ID: 1710161519
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 10:25

we may have seen the last of Randy Moss...I tend to agree with ProFootballTalk's contention that he won't want to do a series of 1 year "prove-it" deals like TO and will likely retire.

329

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Fri, Dec 10, 2010, 10:59

If he will do 1-year prove it deals depends on how much money he has left. When his accountant tells him he'll be bankrupt in 2 years, he'll be back.

330

deepsnapper
ID: 21121115
Sat, Dec 11, 2010, 16:03

If TO passes Moss for the #2 TD receptions total, I think he might come back. That might keep him interested for a little while.

Interesting today, Giants had to land in KC and walk thru at the airport due to the blizzard in Min/St Paul

Blizzard in Twin Cities

331

Doug
ID: 411040141
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 00:04

Well, heck of a week to go 0-4. On the bright side, that means I made playoffs in 4 of my 5 leagues this year, but that's a bit too much 1-and-done for my taste.

That leaves me with the pick 'ems battle to hold onto, lol...
174 - Oakland
173 - Seattle
172 - 49ers
171 - Bengals

332

Great One
ID: 53105119
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 00:42

Johnson & Johnson finally woke up this season... can they keep it going next week? tune in and find out. But the Jets are boarding a plane to Cincy.

CBS drives me nuts that I can't look at next week yet. What if I had to leave for the week and needed to set my lineup?!

333

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 09:46

Conference Championship
New York Jets at Cincinnati Bengals
Dallas Cowboys at Philadelphia Eagles

Consolation Bracket
Oakland Raiders at San Diego Chargers
Detroit Lions at Chicago Bears

Wanna-Be Bracket
New Orleans Saints at Buffalo Bills
Arizona Cardinals at San Francisco 49ers

Toilet Bracket
Baltimore Ravens at Seattle Seahawks
Minnesota Vikings at New York Giants

334

Peter N.
ID: 471150148
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 09:51

It's nice to see Moss falling off planet earth didn't cost me. He will be on the bench this week! I don't care if he's matched up against a pop warner team at this point.

I'm going against my good friend deepsnapper this week. It should be interesting and it's nice to know one of us will be in the Super Bowl.

335

Nerfherders
ID: 347242717
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 11:30

Picked a bad week to have a bad week. Just did not have good matchups at the two high-scoring positions. But as I've said all along, this team played over their heads all year, was playing their third-string QB, second-string RB, second string TE and still had a 17-9 record. I really cannot complain!

336

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 12:27

I've rebuilt the once lowly Chargers franchise to their second consecutive playoff trip but got Johnson and Johnsoned in my effort to advance by knocking off the defending champion.

Congrats GO and those advancing. Best of luck to all.

337

Great One
ID: 01122913
Tue, Dec 14, 2010, 12:48

Thanks MJD, congrats on your good season - hoping to keep it rolling. Also hoping Johnson #2 doesn't get in a fight with Finnegan again this week.

338

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sat, Dec 18, 2010, 15:31

tough decision this week: will Drew Stanton or Joe Webb be able to throw me into the league championship game? they can only produce more points than my best receiver Vernon Davis on Thursday: 0.4

this does not sound good. I am expecting a loss.

339

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 19, 2010, 15:26

Foster needs to do what he's been doing. If not, it will be an uphill battle.

340

youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Dec 19, 2010, 16:21

the Jets opening kickoff return TD sealed the deal.

GO, all the best in the finals.

btw: the Eagles win it with a D-Jax punt return TD. WOW! what a comeback from the Eagles! 4 TDs within 7:30

341

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 19, 2010, 16:31

TBH, I thought GO won the league when he was able to land those two starting QBs for pretty cheap. Good job by him.

342

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Dec 19, 2010, 17:16

Another miracle at the "new" meadowlands!!!!!!!

wAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

343

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Dec 19, 2010, 17:43

Wow. I stopped watching after the Boss touchdown put a dagger into the Eagles. Who knew?

344

Peter N.
ID: 471150148
Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 09:57

It looks like I'll need the Bears D to hold Peterson to around 40 yards or less. That'll be a tall order, but go Chicago!!

345

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 10:29

Ref - and then I wanted to flip Fitzpatrick for Favre, so lucky you had no interest in that.
That would have sunk me cause I also wouldn't have gone after Kitna too thinking... "well Favre never misses a game, i don't need to get a backup QB".

13 straight games with a passing TD for Fitz. Not sure what I do with him when Romo comes back.

346

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 19:18

Holy crap, Adrian deemed Inactive tonight... and Favre is starting now! lol...

347

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 22:29

345: I never would have sat Schaub for Fitz. Made no sense to me.

348

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 00:27

Tough break Roy. Good luck to you Pete.

349

Toral
ID: 4311271820
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 07:46

Uggh. Wouldn't haven't have wanted to lose like that in a real playoff game, with so many points sitting on the bench.

350

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 09:25

347: Yeah, but sometimes you gotta think about player value with respect to your franchise. Fitzpatrick has considerably more value than Favre who is about to be worthless. Even if you got him with the intention to package him and send him elsewhere in the future. At least you have a guy with some value, instead of a guy with no value now who you are gonna kick to the curb. But even ignoring player franchise value, Fitz greatly outplayed Favre all season long anyway.

351

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 09:46

350: That's why you wanted Favre over Fitz too. Like you, my crystal ball has been broken for a long time.

352

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 09:57

Super Bowl
Dallas Cowboys at New York Jets

Consolation (3rd place)
Philadelphia Eagles at Cincinnati Bengals

5th Place
Detroit Lions at San Diego Chargers

7th Place
Oakland Raiders at Chicago Bears

Wanna-Be Bowl (9th Place)
San Francisco 49ers at Buffalo Bills

Toilet Bowl (17th Place)
New York Giants at Seattle Seahawks

353

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 10:05

Remember, The top 8 teams are all vying for placement and payouts. All 8 teams may continue to pickup players under the playoff rule--not just the two teams who have yet to lose.

354

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 10:19

Leon Washington getting tackled at the 1 will forever haunt me as I could be in the superbowl now! I could find a ton of other missteps along the way as well, as we all can that aren't in the superbowl, but that one is just easy for me to focus on.

Too bad no one remembers the wannabe bowl. I think I might have won it before but can't even remember myself lol.

Good luck Pete and G.O. Hopefully all of your players have big games!

355

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 10:51

To me this was strictly a 5 week rental as I couldn't find room to keep either guy. So I mapped out schedules for the rest of the season and liked Favres matchups in particular weeks where I knew I might need him. I was trying to avoid a couple of bad matchup games Fitz was playing. Though I am not sure if you were in contention still at the deadline, so maybe you liked the same matchups (anticipating a healthy Favre).

I was willing to give up long term value for what I thought were a couple good matchups. Guess its good it didn't work out, now I can trade Fitz to fill a couple holes I have (namely a solid WR).

356

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 10:54

I hear ya Cards, in my other league my team completely bombed this week, so I feel better about losing a by a couple points the week before cause I know it didn't matter.

The worst is watching your team go nuts after being eliminated. Like my work league with Vick, Ray Rice etc.

357

Peter N.
ID: 471150148
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 11:13

Wow, I still can't believe AP didn't play. Considering I received 0 TDs from my 5 RB/WR/TE slots, I feel very fortunate to be in the Superbowl. That can't happen two weeks in a row can it??? ;-) Best of luck GO! I have a feeling I'll need more of it than you.

358

Great One
ID: 1711331610
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 11:21

I don't think so, the projections seem to say its pretty evenly matched, so it should be a good battle. So good luck to you as well.

My two main tough decisions to watch out for are Kitna (do they blow out AZ and then run a ton?) vs. Fitz (bad weather? NE Defense).... and also my two part time RB's in Mathews vs. Brandon Jackson.

359

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 12:38

It's all about the choices :) and that is also what can drive you nuts later ;)

Start the right guys and woohoo! but keep the wrong one on the bench and bombs away. Sometimes I think I'd like it better with no bench, then at least the decision is already made lol.

360

deepsnapper
ID: 511122122
Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 23:12

Darn you Peter! killed by AP & Crab. I contemplated playing Lloyd instead of AP, but I figured - what'd stop AP? I should've known it would be Tavaris Jackson's knee knock from last week and not the Bears to stop him. Ugh... ;)

Good luck to GO % Peter N. in the Superbowl!

361

slizz-blackberry
ID: 32745617
Wed, Dec 22, 2010, 16:59

Imagine how your season wouldve went had I shipped best instead of run DMC. HAHA.

Good luck in the finals fellas!

362

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 22, 2010, 17:24

Another Thursday game this week.

363

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 12:02

I probably should have blown up my team this year, but I was a bad break from the playoffs and I got a few of them. The problem is that so many people are more worried about things 3 and 4 years down the line when they have a chance to win now. So even though I would have considered blowing up my team, you just never know how things might turn out if you can make the playoffs.

Come on lottery ball!!!!!!!!!!!!

364

Great One
ID: 411132311
Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 12:13

Certainly true, when the window is open - you gotta go all in and go for it. Cause it may not be open again anytime soon.

365

Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 21:46

RE:361 - Yes, that trade was huge. :-)

RE:363 - I am a good example of that. I had thoughts about blowing up my team this past offseason(ds could attest to that). In the end, I decided to stick with what I have and now I'm in the superbowl! Anything can happen, especially in fantasy football.

366

deepsnapper
ID: 441139248
Fri, Dec 24, 2010, 09:44

<365> Yeah, I talked you out of it before the draft, (and I was the one loaded at the time!) Go figure, I should have let you blow it up. lol (;-Þ)

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Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Sun, Dec 26, 2010, 11:47

Let's see, this week I dropped Dockett for Ratliff. What happens? Well, Dockett has the game of his life(5 tackles and 2 sacks) while Ratliff fails to even register a tackle. I would've been better off without this new rule allowing playoff teams to make roster moves, lol. Hopefully, I don't lose by 11 points or less.

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Great One
ID: 2411372412
Sun, Dec 26, 2010, 12:08

That garbage fumble recovery at the end should make up for it! :) and things were going so well... lol...

369

Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Sun, Dec 26, 2010, 12:19

Lol, a fumble recovery does not make up for 5 tackles and 2 sacks.

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Dec 26, 2010, 12:31

FYI:

NFL has just announced that the Vikings at Eagles game has been ppd to Tuesday at 8 PM ET.

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StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 13:00

Barring a postponement of the game due to weather (wtf is that, I thought football was an outdoor sport lol) the Championship game will be decided tonight.

It all comes down to the Falcons DST + 1.43pts for the Cowboys to Hartley for the Jets.

In the first meeting this year the Falcons DST scored 7 pts in NO while Hartley put up just 3 pts. In the last 3 games the Falcons DST have averaged just over 15 pts a game and Hartley has averaged 9 pts a game.

In games where both players played in a given week, The Falcons DST outscored Hartley 6 weeks, and Hartley outscored the Falcons D 5 weeks.

NO has faced very few teams with winning records and Hartley averaged 6 pts a game in those 4. In 7 games vs teams with winning records the Falcons DST has averaged 6.5 pts per game over the 7 games.

Looks like it will go right down to the wire. Good luck to both!

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StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 21:17

Hartley boots a long one for a quick 5 plus taking some pts away from the Atl D. Will the Cowboys hold on?

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Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 21:47

Come on Falcons D/ST! I just got home from work and see that Hartley booted a 52 yarder. F$%&!

374

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 21:59

wow, missing sure sacks!

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Great One
ID: 2411372412
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 22:45

Cards, they didn't PPD the Eagles game cause they don't want to play in the snow, its because its a State of Emergency the last 24 hours due to the blizzard and you aren't supposed to be on the roads...

lets go Saints offense... they are snoozing so far.

376

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 22:48

missed a sure pick!

GO, I didn't know they were playing football on the roads these days ;)

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StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 22:49

now another missed sack! Pete must be going nuts

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Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 23:01

Chauncey Davis is getting a late christmas card!!!

379

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 23:10

From the archives, this humorous legal moment is brought to you by your Cleveland Browns.

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slizz
ID: 5611142722
Mon, Dec 27, 2010, 23:14

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 10:05

Congrats Pete! Way to bring the trophy back to the South!

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Great One
ID: 2411372412
Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 12:18

Congrats Pete, that was a tough one. I was in disbelief when the fat guy was running towards the end zone... I thought for sure both teams would put up near 30 points and I was in good shape.

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mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 28, 2010, 19:07

Way to go, Pete!

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Doug
ID: 411040141
Wed, Dec 29, 2010, 00:48

Congrats Pete!

In the lesser-important contest (but important to me since it was the only thing to really salvage my fantasy season across 5 leagues this year) if I'm not mistaken, it looks like Oakland takes it with a 187 (dropping week 13's score of 0), just 1 point ahead of the Seahawks who wind up at 186 (dropping week 12's score of 10). Was definitely concerned about Adrian Peterson closing the G24 Bengals' 10 point lead tonight, but fortunately Webb matched Peterson's output to secure the G24 Bengals' win (else the Pick 'Em 1st/2nd place result would have been reversed).

slizz... I've never quite got Nature Boy's whole woooo thing... even as a kid watching that stuff, I was like, "is this supposed to come off as macho or intimidating or something?" Because it seems quite the opposite... or just kinda crazy. Not George the Animal Steele intimdating crazy, just... in a way that always made me sort of dismissive to him as the kinda weird "wooo"-ing guy who apparently thought that was like tough or cool or something. Which was particularly ironic for a pro-wrestler, since I thought macho/intimidating was usually the whole shtick (instantiated through various characters, but mostly all some variant of that theme)... anyway I've genuinely always wondered as to his character's appeal, and hoping maybe you can help explain it? Not trying to tear him down, and I know different strokes but different folks, but usually I can understand why... like, I can get why chicks like Twilight or Nicholas Sparks stories even though I can't stand them, but in this case I really just don't get it.

385

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 29, 2010, 14:17

Adjustments aren't going to change any of this weeks outcomes so the final standings for the pick'ems is

Adjusted Standings
Oakland Raiders 187
Seattle Seahawks 186
San Francisco 49ers 185
Cincinnati Bengals 183
Chicago Bears 164
San Diego Chargers 145
Indianapolis Colts 89
Buffalo Bills 73
Arizona Cardinals 50
Carolina Panthers 36

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Peter N.
ID: 1711442320
Wed, Dec 29, 2010, 22:53

Thanks for the props. It was definitely a cinderalla story. The #8 seed takes the title. I'm still finding it hard to believe I won. I also lost Portis to injury and Moss to lack of interest so I definitely feel fortunate.

Free agent pickup of the year is Mike Goodson. He was pivotal to several victories and will draw some serious consideration to my keeper list going into next year. I know its a crowded backfield in Carolina, but hard to ignore what Goodson has done when presented with the opportunity.

Trade of the year is the Roddy White for Run DMC. That's pretty much a no brainer. Honorable mention to the trade where I aquired Shayne Graham. He was solid down the stretch and an upgrade from Jeff Reed.

Player of the year honors go to Tom Brady. He put me in the playoffs and was a stud throughout the entire year. I'm not a fan of the Pats, but Brady is a horse.

All in all, it was a wild and fun year. I look forward to the offseason and doing my best to repeat. There will be plenty of opportunities for trade. However, I don't see myself blowing the team up. :-)

387

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Dec 30, 2010, 10:36

Any player added during the playoff stretch must now be dropped. No new adds can be made.

388

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Dec 31, 2010, 10:38

Adjustments made.

Champ Dallas
2nd Jets
3rd Bengals
4th Eagles
5th Chargers
6th Lions
7th Bears
8th Raiders

The last 8 spots of the draft will be reflected of these result sin inverse order.

Wanna-be Champ (9th) 49ers
Toilet Bowl Champ (17th) Seahawks

Best reg. season record Bengals
Pickems Champ Raiders

I'll look to get the franchise standings updated soon.

389

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 12:55

Prize notifications have been sent out using email addresses found on the league site. The previous style of trophy has been discontinued so the next one will be a bit different.

390

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 13:28

Made of bacon and spam?

391

Great One
ID: 45012311
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 13:57

Second place gets bacon and spam. Or pork roll if you live in Jersey. Mine arrived yesterday.

392

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Jan 12, 2011, 17:11

no, no, no

It's gotta be scrapple!

393

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jan 25, 2011, 17:29

Started working on record book. Still have to do head to head records and then another update to it. It's posted in Football Standings.

394

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Jan 29, 2011, 12:35

H2H is now done and posted as well. Will finish up the record book soon.

395

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Feb 01, 2011, 14:21

Record Book has been caught up and posted in the Leagues Forum.

396

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Feb 01, 2011, 15:18

Starting to update our G20/24 web pages.

397

CT
ID: 116582319
Sat, Jul 23, 2011, 20:58

Hi gang,
In years past I was a member of the Gurupie 24 fantasy football league before I had to bow out due to multiple life events over a short time period. I'd would love to be put back on the bench if a team comes available in the future.
Craig

398

Toral
ID: 5464267
Sat, Jul 30, 2011, 20:03

We using CBS again? We want to renew by August 4 or whatever and get the discount?

399

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jul 31, 2011, 13:06

I will send a not to StLCards. My time has been severely limited the past few weeks.

401

Slizz
ID: 49611114
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 08:52

Fellas...I will be in the NJ State Police Academy from August 15 - January 27, 2012 (barring injury) and won't be able to draft during the week.

I know the level of commitment it takes for this league so I wanted to get your thoughts on potentially helping me out during the draft if that is even allowed.

That said, I really want to keep my team but if it doesnt mesh well with the by-laws I will give it up.

Slizz aka Buffalo Bills

402

Nerfherders
ID: 14382210
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 15:28

I have a potential conflict as well (somehow my vacations this year have been at the end of March and August, not good timing.)

I will be on vacation from Aug 30 to Sep 11. I will have internet access in the evenings and possibly during the day (if I am not driving). But it wont be as bad as the baseball draft where I had no access.

403

Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 15:36

If there is a waiting list maybe the first guy on it can help Slizz with this years draft and that way he gets his feet wet and familiar with the league. Thats how i got involved helping cover a few years back.

404

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 15:36

I am likely not doing football at all this year (with 4 kids now being able to follow through on a complete season is a bit dicey).

I'm happy to help out in drafting, however, since I am around pretty all the time during the day. Lemme know.

405

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 17:04

check that--I'll be in a low-stress RIFC AA league.

406

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Aug 04, 2011, 14:22

398: League was renewed today.

I need to make some time to figure out with Cards who is coming back and what new managers we need.

Looks like so far we need to replace PD and we need to get some help for Nerf and Slizz. Not sure Slizz will be able to do anything this season if he is weekend only. That would severely hamstring him. Slizz did tell me long ago that this was likely coming. Looks like Nerf will be just fine.

Need to get on this because the draft is probably in a couple weeks and we have keeper deadline before that and obviously all he roster evals and trades, etc. I also can't even remember if there were ideas on rule changes either.

CT has shown interest. If anyone else has interest, let me know asap as time is of the essence and I have to figure things out with the time I can carve our right now.

407

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 07, 2011, 00:57

If I don't have enough going on in rl, my hard drive failed w/o warning. As much as a headache as that has been, found out my external hard drive I'd thought I'd been backing things up weekly for the past 6 years, hasn't had a successful backup in 18 months!!! Lots of data loss.

That Franchise Record Chart was a monster. It is posted in the Franchise Standings thread but putting that back together will be an absolute nightmare.

408

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Sun, Aug 07, 2011, 13:54

Ref- Really sorry to hear about your hard drive and back-up problems I am sure you are not alone as very few of us ever check to make sure our backups are functional. I suspect quite a few of us would be distressed if we knew the actual state of things.

409

Ref
ID: 33757623
Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 00:52

On to this season...

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