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Subject: Gurupie 24 2011 Season 10 Discussion

Posted by: Ref - [33757623] Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 00:47

2010 Season Discussion

Welcome to our 10th season! Email has been sent out. We are going to have to move rather quickly to play catch up.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 18:58

Most have responded. Going to go through and see who we have left and then fill the league and start the season.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 19:05

I can probably help with the draft if we are using drafttime...

I have the time I just need to be told what to do...

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Tue, Aug 09, 2011, 04:42

I did not get an email yesterday. I am coming back to ride Arian Foster to some NFL records.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Aug 09, 2011, 07:38

Yup, I rode him to the AAA champs last year...

Ref
ID: 33757623
Tue, Aug 09, 2011, 11:44

Sorry yr. Looks like gshde's chiefs is the only one we are waiting on. Sent him another msg.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 12:57

Shade is back. CT is taking the PD's Browns.

Slizz needs a co-owner asap. Any help appreciated.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 13:34

Might need to replace Slizz at least for this season. Been talking to him and he really will only have access on Saturdays.

Great One
ID: 574139
Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 13:42

I think he'll be fine in-season. Its not like there are tons of free agents in this league to play around with. He can set a lineup each weekend, respond to trades and put in his weekly waiver claims and he's good for another week. I feel like post-draft I put less time into this league than any other cause there really isn't anyone to pick up or matchups to play via the FA pool.

Just needs draft help. I know PD offered to assist.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 14:42

No, he said he needs a break. Need another manager for this season. He said it's tough to manage part time.

jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Wed, Aug 10, 2011, 20:32

Would be interested in owning or co-ownering if available.

Promize
ID: 15714211
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 14:15

Any updates gone out by email lately? I know we on tight schedule and lot of busy folks, was just curious about fees, draft dates of anything has been planned... Keeper date as well?

Thanks

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 14:15

Jseth has been added.

League is full and ready. Will get lottery to guru to set up. League issues and rules discussions can commence. Will start working on timeline.

Cards and I are open to using drafttime.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 14:32

2010 Playoffs
1. cowboys
2. jets
3. bengals
4. eagles
5. chargers
6. lions
7. bears
8. raiders

Final 2010 Regular Season Standings
1. Cincinnati Bengals
2. Chicago Bears
3. Philadelphia Eagles
4. San Diego Chargers
5. Detroit Lions
6. New York Jets
7. Oakland Raiders
8. Dallas Cowboys

9. Buffalo Bills
10. San Francisco 49ers
11. Indianapolis Colts
12. Houston Texans
13. New Orleans Saints
14. Arizona Cardinals
15. Kansas City Chiefs
16. Jacksonville Jaguars
17. Seattle Seahawks
18. New York Giants
19. Carolina Panthers
20. Denver Broncos
21. Baltimore Ravens
22. Minnesota Vikings
23. Green Bay Packers
24. Cleveland Browns

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:16

Lottery is set up. The bottom 16 teams are eligible. Will be posting the winners of the top 4 picks in the first round now...

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:44

Ran into an issue with the lottery. Working with Guru to resolve.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:53

The lottery winner and first overall pick goes to Frick's Vikings!

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:54

The 2nd pick goes to Twarpy's Giants.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:56

The 3rd pick goes to CT's Browns.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:57

4th ball is Vikings...repick.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 15:58

5th ball is Browns...repick.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 16:00

6th ball is Browns again...repick.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 16:02

(7th Ball) 4th pick goes to The Panthers!

Guru will validate the lottery as usual.

I will get the draft order up asap. for the first and following rounds. This will be the base draft order and will not reflect any trades for the time being.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 16:05

Results verified. All good.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 16:17

Base Draft Order for Round 1 (Not including any trades)

1. Minnesota Vikings
2. New York Giants
3. Cleveland Browns
4. Carolina Panthers
5. Green Bay Packers
6. Baltimore Ravens
7. Denver Broncos
8. Seattle Seahawks
9. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Arizona Cardinals
12. New Orleans Saints
13. Houston Texans
14. Indianapolis Colts
15. San Francisco 49ers
16. Buffalo Bills
17. Oakland Raiders
18. Chicago Bears
19. Detroit Lions
20. San Diego Chargers
21. Philadelphia Eagles
22. Cincinnati Bengals
23. New York Jets
24. Dallas Cowboys

Base Draft Order for Round 2+ (Not including any trades)

1. Cleveland Browns
2. Green Bay Packers
3. Minnesota Vikings
4. Baltimore Ravens
5. Denver Broncos
6. Carolina Panthers
7. New York Giants
8. Seattle Seahawks
9. Jacksonville Jaguars
10. Kansas City Chiefs
11. Arizona Cardinals
12. New Orleans Saints
13. Houston Texans
14. Indianapolis Colts
15. San Francisco 49ers
16. Buffalo Bills
17. Oakland Raiders
18. Chicago Bears
19. Detroit Lions
20. San Diego Chargers
21. Philadelphia Eagles
22. Cincinnati Bengals
23. New York Jets
24. Dallas Cowboys

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 17:22

Lotsa rule change discussions for RIFC. I know some of us play in both leagues. Any thoughts on what was discussed over there?

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 19:18

Pretty sure I've never gotten a lottery pick in any of the G20/G24 leagues. Not sure if that's a brag or beat.

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 00:06

Ive started both leagues with lottery picks, don't plan on getting any myself though. ;)

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 12:26

We are looking at using drafttime this season. Judy has offered to do all the legwork and setup for us. This will take a little time to set up. She will get all the invites out so we can sign p. Then once keepers are set up will get those put into the site.

Drafttime will make our draft quicker and may allow us to start later. Last season's draft took a week. Definitely want time before first game starts for changes but there is only one game on that Thursday before the rest of the games on Sunday. Season starts Thurs Sept 8.

Typically we would have keepers on Monday at Noon and draft the next day. This might allow us to have keepers due on Tues Aug 30 and Draft starting Wed Aug 31. That means we'd have that night to get the players put in and your scouting and draft setup complete. Last year there were some issues with the Monday at Noon Keeper deadline and several wanting to make trades but didn't get them done in time. So I would like to give them the day. If we need more time to get keepers and prepare the draft we could have the keeper deadline at Monday at 6pm ET. There is no Monday night game.

Give some input and we can make a final decision. Will look and see if I can find a copy of the schedule program so I can get the schedule up for this season.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 13:53

I just sent out the drafttime invitation. I think i sent to to all your emails -- not sure just how the message function works in cbs... It, of course, did not come to me since I sent it. There were more than 23 names on the list??

Anyhow, could one person post here that they got the email notice so that I know it went through??

Thanks.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 13:58

Ah, I see there are co-managers, henc the >23 names. Also, I finally did get the email sign up notice, so forget that request.

If your drafttime sign up name does not resemble your G24 name, please alert me so I know who you are for setting the order. It is tough enough using real NFL team names and keeping managers straight.

Thanks.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 14:12

2011 Schedule

I retrieved the Schedule program to make our schedule. It will take some time to get it input into CBS. Then will need for everyone to check their schedules to that. It is very easy to make a mistake as every input is a dropdown.

Jseth is managing the Bills. CT has the Browns. They are the ones who should be in drafttime.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 14:18

Current traded picks:

XIV 2011 Traded Draft Picks:
8-23 Vikings get Chief's 1st rounder ( '10 2nd, WIllis/Palmer)
8-24 Raiders get Browns conditional pick (If Delhomme is a top 20 QB (per CBS rankings) at the end of 2010, Oakland and Cleveland will swap 2011 first round picks. If he is top 21-25 we swap second round picks. 26+ we swap third round picks. This conditional swap is nullified in the case that the Browns finish ahead of the Raiders at the end of the 2010 season.)
10-9 Browns get Packers 7th round for his 8th (Cillins/Batch)
10-23 Chargers and Browns exchange 2011 last round draft picks (Gradkowski)
10-30 Ravens get San Diego 5th for their 8th
11-3 Judy gets YR's 5th round pick + YR gets Judy's 7th round pick (Mare)
11-12 GO's 3rd Round Draft Pick goes to PD's Browns (Jackson/McCoy)
11-16 Chargers gets Jets 6th round pick in 2011 , Jets get Chargers 11th round pick in 2011 (via Browns) (Kitna and '12 picks)
11-16 Ravens get Jets 4th Round Pick for their 11th Round Pick
11-18 Cowboys send Jaguars their 9th round pick in exchange for Jaguars' 11th round pick. (Graham)
12-2 Vikings get Lions 2nd for his 6th. Upgradable to 2nd for 4th if Lions win in week 14 and a 1st for 4th if LIons win Title (Henne/Vilma)
12-3 Saints get 49ers 4th for his 7th (Janikowski D swap)

I will work on the getting the draft grid setup so we can keep up. This is going to be more important than the schedule input into CBS right now.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 14:36

So what is happening here -- managers chime into these conditional conditions!

8-24 Raiders get Browns conditional pick (If Delhomme is a top 20 QB (per CBS rankings) at the end of 2010, Oakland and Cleveland will swap 2011 first round picks. If he is top 21-25 we swap second round picks. 26+ we swap third round picks. This conditional swap is nullified in the case that the Browns finish ahead of the Raiders at the end of the 2010 season.)
According to MFL rankings Delhomme is #48 -- so this is now a Round 3 swap -- correct? Looks like Brownies were last...

12-2 Vikings get Lions 2nd for his 6th. Upgradable to 2nd for 4th if Lions win in week 14 and a 1st for 4th if LIons win Title (Henne/Vilma) Playoff history in not on site -- Anybody know what happened here in week 14?

Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 14:47

#35: That's correct--third round pick swap.

I forwarded your draftime email to CT, who is the Browns new GM.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 15:26

Good pick up Judy. I will update in G24 rules.

8/24 is a 3rd round swap
12/2 Lions lost week 14 so it's not upgradable.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 15:35

I looked at the wrong year of G24 draft (Pre IDPs when it only took us a week). Last season it took us 10.5 days to draft. I am not sure if drafttime can cut 4 days off the draft to be able to start a week later. Rethinking the tentative draft times now...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 15:43

Yeah -- we are cutting it really close on the calendar for declaring keepers, esp since the draft will be over Labor Day weekend.
However, that said, Drafttime flies -- IF people use its features properly with Q's and autopicks...

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 15:48

the top draft thingie.

8-23 Vikings get Chief's 1st rounder ( '10 2nd, WIllis/Palmer)

No swap? this gives Vikes 15 picks...Chief's 13??

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 16:41

Sometimes people don't swap.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 17:32

Valkyrie -- Which team is yours? Can't figure it out.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 01:12

42: Panthers

http://www.angelfire.com/games5/gurupie/footowner.html

Ref
ID: 33757623
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 13:43

There has been little to no input thus far.

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 16:09

Let's start posting keepers saomewhere- and collecting money- where do I send $!

Judy you could have just looked for the team with all the QB's and no RB's- that would be mine LOL.

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 16:39

I would have extra picks, IIRC, if I get to a pick and I a full roster I'm automatically skipped.

Hopefully, I'll be able to make some trades and either get more picks in a future year like the Pats or swap multiple picks for a single pick or player.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 17:12

Need G24 names for vampireweekend and stray dog registered in drafttime. WHo are you?

Figured out restok79 and valkyrie...

thanks

jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 21:22

in as vampireweekend - buffalo bills

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 10:59

Still needing to sign into drafttime. If you need another invite let me know:

skinneej/packers
coldwater/broncos
twarpy/jints
slackjawed/jags
greg/chiefs
stl cards/49ers
doug/raiders
deepsnapper/iggles
petern/'boys

Still need to know which of you above is stray dog. If your drafttime name is not close to your G24 name, please let me know so I can ID you.

Thanks.

Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 11:28

Thats probably Doug. Stray Doug.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 13:20

Oh yeah -- oops even have a brother named Doug and missed that...

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 14:06

I have not seen an invite to sign up yet for drafttime.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 15:12

Judy said there are still five who have still not signed up for drafttime. I had forgotten about Labor Day Weekend. We are going to need to move the draft up to account for that major slow down.

Maybe we shoot for Keepers due by Tue Aug 23rd (Time is flexible) and Draft starting at Noon ET on Thurs Aug 25? This shortens our lead time down considerably. Might be able to go as late as Noon Wed Aug 23rd for Keepers but that would be the absolute latest as it takes time to get stuff set up for the draft. Esp if guys don't get their Keepers in on time. I am talking with Judy and wil get with Cards and take input from the league before making the call asap.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 16:38

cute offer ref -- Favre -- you should just give him away!!

Peter N.
ID: 21715917
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 20:34

I've signed up for the draft. I already know who my keeps are going to be so I'm fine with whatever deadline is given.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 23:26

I see an error:

YR gets my (judy's) 7th not 8th

Also round 5 pick 22 needs a bold -- judy's cards.

Will look closely at others tomorrow as I need to use this to double check the draft time set up

But for now, I gotta go to bed...

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 00:34

55: I didn't offer just added him to the block.
57: Fixed on my SS. Will re-post at some point.

Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 09:16

If anyone needs a decent starting QB, I've got Fitzpatrick available who I'd move for a pick swap or pair with another player for a slight upgrade at that position.

Nobody is ever untouchable on GO's Jets.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 11:26

Since no one has any preference about Keepers or drafting schedules, here is what it will be.

Keepers due before 6pm ET on Tues 8/23
Draft Begins at Noon ET on Thurs 8/25

I will sent out an email and set up a Keeper Thread forthwith.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 11:31

Keeper Thread

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 13:32

Make sure you list your drops in the Keeper thread for this league. Many people like that feature because often they are looking to trade for one of your non-keepers.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 17:11

Still missing from drafttime:

Jints/Twarpy
Slackjawed/Jags

C'mon, Men!

Ref
ID: 33757623
Fri, Aug 19, 2011, 15:38

I think we are all registered now.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Aug 20, 2011, 19:41

Yes we are. Will be getting keeper lists ready for input on Tuesday night.

On Monday, I plan to input the trades.

Thanks.

Judy

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 02:04

Prob gonna need to wait until Keeper deadline to enter trades.

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 12:24

True -- but I need to sort them out by draft time names, which can be confusing.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 19:25

I am looking to upgrade my keepers.

Toral
ID: 5464267
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 09:50

Trade Announcement

New Orleans Saints sends

Mike Sims-Walker
8th round dc

for

San Francisco 49ers

6th round dc

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 10:04

what means the "dc"?

Frick
ID: 5310541617
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 10:07

draft choice?

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 11:13

ah -- probably. thanks.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 12:17

confirmed

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 16:24

Trade
Shades KC Chiefs acquire
Tony Romo, QB, DAL
Ryan Mathews, RB, SDG
Derrick Johnson - KC LB
Jets 2nd Round Draft Pick

GO's Jets acquire
Jamaal Charles, RB, KC
Jason Campbell, QB, OAK
KC's 4th Round Draft pick

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 16:32

Wow. Romo is the Cliff Lee of this league. :P

gshade
ID: 357122217
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 18:12

re 74: confirmed.

gshade
ID: 357122217
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 18:13

and once again I make a QB trade before the draft...

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:51

Romo? Lee? Not even close in ability...or value to team...

Great One
ID: 17252222
Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 23:42

Says the Philadelphia fan... Well I guess Lee has an many championships as Romo.

Romo 3 Pro Bowls in 4 full seasons... Lee 3 All Star games in 9 years, and about 5 other seasons of mediocrity.
Value to the team? Romo is team leader, Lee doesn't even lead his own pitching staff.

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 01:42

I was referring to him being traded three times in one annual year. Sorry if the joke wasnt good. ;)

Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 08:58

I agree Nerf, he's like a hot potato. But I'll put it in Philly sports fan terms... apparently its a Violation to ever say someone like Romo is good. And I'm gonna be in trouble cause I pointed out that Cliff Lee hasn't been dominant his whole career.

They'll also say that Polanco deserved his all star starting spot (he didn't) and Carlos Ruiz is the best catcher on the planet (he's far from it).

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 11:31

I am an Eagles fan who also is a Braves fan (and hates the Phillies), so I can understand both sides.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 16:08

oh my,

Never said Polanco deserved to be an all star -- steady, but not spectacular, declining a bit this year with injuries.

Ruiz is a great catcher for handling a pitching staff -- they trust him, and a good defensive catcher -- has to be for all those sliders. He is a late season hitter -- a bit above average in the late season.

I thought he could have been the MVP of the 2008 series, but as a no name player it wasn't gonna happen:

Yr Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR GS RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
2008 Phillies 5 16 2 6 2 0 1 0 3 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 .375 .500 .688
2009 Phillies 6 18 4 6 2 1 1 0 2 5 1 2 0 0 0 0 .333 .478 .722

Career G AB R H 2B 3B HR GS RBI BB IBB SO SH SF HBP GIDP AVG OBP SLG
2 Years 11 34 6 12 4 1 2 0 5 9 1 2 0 0 0 0 .353 .488 .706

Sorry the stat line does not look nice in the final format, but you can figure it out... last 3 columns for sure.

Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 16:44

you may not have, but everyone around here thinks he's their big all star 3B guy... and he's not.

and Ruiz is a good catcher, but he's not even he best defensive catcher - thats Yadier Molina. and he doesn't throw people out at a high rate, a hallmark of a great defensive catcher - so yes, he calls a good game. to veteran pitchers that were already really track record before throwing to him, so did he make them much better?

but to say Romo isn't a top player at the QB position is just fan hatred and denial. and I dislike the Cowboys myself.

Frick
ID: 387512315
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 16:51

Sorry to interrupt Phillies baseball talk, but

Great One trades
Jason Campbell, QB

for

Frick's 5th round pick.

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 17:08

Have you offered that trade online or is there confirmation from GO? I don't see any transactions pending.

Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 17:18

Confirmed.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 17:39

OK, am going to try and get my team done. I just have had no time to really work on this. I'll do the best I can as commish but I have so much going on. Appreciate Judy assisting with drafttime.

I highly doubt I am going to figure out any trades at this point so will be just putting in who I have. Have some stud DBs at least.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 18:11

	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6
1	Frick's Vikings	CT's Browns	Doug's Raiders	CT's Browns	CT's Browns	CT's Browns
2	Twarpy's Giants	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers
3	CT's Browns	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings	GO's Jets	Nerf's Lions
4	Valkyrie's Panthers	B7s Ravens	B7s Ravens	B7s Ravens	B7s Ravens	B7s Ravens
5	Skinnej's Packers	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos
6	B7s Ravens	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers
7	Coyote's Broncos	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants
8	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks
9	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars
10	Frick's Vikings	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs	GO's Jets	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs
11	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals
12	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints
13	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans
14	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts
15	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Toral's Saints	Cards' 49ers	Toral's Saints
16	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills
17	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders	CT's Browns	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders
18	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears
19	Nerf's Lions	Frick's Vikings	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions
20	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	B7s Ravens	mjd's Chargers
21	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles
22	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	Judy's Cardinals	YR's Bengals
23	GO's Jets	gshade's Chiefs	CT's Browns	B7s Ravens	GO's Jets	mjd's Chargers
24	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys

	Round 7	Round 8	Round 9	Round 10	Round 11
1	CT's Browns	Skinnej's Packers	CT's Browns	CT's Browns	GO's Jets
2	CT's Browns	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers	Skinnej's Packers
3	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings	Frick's Vikings
4	B7s Ravens	mjd's Chargers	B7s Ravens	B7s Ravens	GO's Jets
5	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos	Coyote's Broncos
6	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers	Valkyrie's Panthers
7	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants	Twarpy's Giants
8	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks	Promize's Seahawks
9	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Yokel's Jaguars	Peter N's Cowboys
10	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs	gshade's Chiefs
11	YR's Bengals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals	Judy's Cardinals
12	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints	Toral's Saints
13	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans	bmd's Texans
14	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts	Ref's Colts
15	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers	Cards' 49ers
16	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills	Jseth's Bills
17	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders	Doug's Raiders
18	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears	CCR's Bears
19	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions	Nerf's Lions
20	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	mjd's Chargers	CT's Browns
21	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles	deep's Eagles
22	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals	YR's Bengals
23	GO's Jets	GO's Jets	GO's Jets	GO's Jets	GO's Jets
24	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys	Yokel's Jaguars	Peter N's Cowboys	Peter N's Cowboys

	Picks Altered Due to Draft Lottery
	Pick Traded
	Pick Traded Twice

	Traded Draft Picks:	Traded Draft Picks:
	XIV 2011 Traded Draft Picks:
	8-23 Vikings get Chief's 1st rounder ( '10 2nd, WIllis/Palmer)
	8-24 Raiders get Browns swap third round picks.
	10-9 Browns get Packers 7th round for his 8th (Cillins/Batch)
	10-23 Chargers and Browns exchange 2011 last round draft picks (Gradkowski)
	10-30 Ravens get San Diego 5th for their 8th
	11-3 Judy gets YR's 5th round pick + YR gets Judy's 7th round pick (Mare)
	11-12 GO's 3rd Round Draft Pick goes to PD's Browns (Jackson/McCoy)
	11-16 Chargers gets Jets 6th round pick in 2011 , Jets get Chargers 11th round pick in 2011 (via Browns) (Kitna and '12 picks)
	11-16 Ravens get Jets 4th Round Pick for their 11th Round Pick
	11-18 Cowboys send Jaguars their 9th round pick in exchange for Jaguars' 11th round pick. (Graham)
	12-2 Vikings get Lions 2nd for his 6th.(Henne/Vilma)
	12-3 Saints get 49ers 4th for his 7th (Janikowski D swap)
	8-22 plus GO Jet's 2nd Round Pick for Shades KC 4th Round Pick (Romo)
	8-22 StLCards 49er's gives 6th pick for Torals Saints 8th pick (Sims-Walker)
	8-23 GO's Jets give Campbell for Frick's Vikings 5th Round Pick

Ref
ID: 106141018
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 21:54

When I get home I will check on things. Is twarpy the only one to fail to declare? Commishs will select his keeps. If someone can email him or anyone else who missed it would help.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:11

The Following didn't mark their keepers on cbs:

bmd
pete
twarpy
frick (need one more)
doug

Need this done so we can run the keepers script and get them in drafttime.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:14

Not everyone deleted their previous post when they made another post but it looks like only Twarpy missed the keepers and will be selected for him. Going to send an email out to all to see if it can save me some time.

Frick
ID: 52182321
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 22:21

I had mine marked, but the trade hadn't been processed before I left the office today. I'll go add Campbell now that the trade has been processed.

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 23:06

Ihave gone over all the team drafts picks and they match the list in #89 above.

Okay here is I think an error:

Pick 11.20 does not belong to anyone. CT already has 11 picks by round 10.

Gshade gave up his #1 pick and did not get anything in return so he should be one draft pick short.

So to make it all work I stuck a gshade pick in 11:20 which CT cannot use and we will ask gshade to draft Favre in this slot. Gshade will need to use FA to complete his team.

Does that make sense to everyone?? anyone??? Gshade agreee?

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 00:14

Can someone please tell us what keepers were selected for Twarpy so we can try to plan our draft strategy ?

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 00:19

I am just now looking at it. I emailed and was hoping he's make his own but got to get ti done. I will post them in keepers thread in a few. If anyone want to give input on his keepers, email me asap.

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 00:25

I suggest just doing them randomly like all even numbers on an alphabetic list LOL- After all there should be some penalty for anyone not showing enough interest to even select his keepers LOL Seriously I hope nothing untoward has befallen Twarpy.

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 01:09

95: The pick still belongs to CT and he can trade a pick somewhere until his draft is done. But worst case, we can do what you suggested.

100

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 01:12

Looks like everyone has selected Keepers and now have checked their keepers except for Twarpy which I did. Doug did have input on arpys keepers too. Thanks!

Now I will be running the script which dumps all non keepers. Make sure they match up. If they differ the one listed in the keeper thread is official. However, once the draft starts it may be too late to fix so then your CBS would take precedence. Clear as mud?

101

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 01:19

Keepers are processed. All teams have 9 players.

When we draft in drafttime, you will need to pick your player up in CBS as usual. This will also help you figure out which players are left and do your research on CBS.

102

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 08:40

Twarpy keepers from CBS site:
Flacco
Bradshaw
Lynch
DA Williams
Ford, Jacoby
Rice, Sid
Daniels, Owen
Gostkowski
Fletcher

103

Frick
ID: 387512315
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 08:46

When is draft time going to be opened up?

104

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 09:35

I am inputting the keepers now with the goal of opening the draft for Q making this afternoon or early evening. I will keep you posted.

105

gshade
ID: 43725129
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 09:52

re 95. Works for me Judy.

106

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 13:48

Waiting for OK from commishes to open draft. I am away from a computer from 3 to about 8... so if not by 3 then after 8 EDT.

107

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 16:36

Cards, Judy and myself are going over the draft parameters. When everything is finalized we will send an email out. Would love to post the final draft in a thread in standings forum too to preserve as historical review.

It is imperative that after a draft pick is made that the corresponding player is picked up in CBS.

When everything is done, we will open up the site untimed until the official start tomorrow at Noon.

108

Great One
ID: 574139
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 17:04

We need a new Super Bowl article, cause sadly I am no longer the champ, although I wish it was still my 30th birthday...

109

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 18:39

out with the "Old" and in with the new

110

Great One
ID: 17252222
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 20:26

I would pair next year's 1st round pick with my 1st Round pick this year to move up.

111

Ref
ID: 33757623
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 21:28

The keepers and draft trades are all set in Drafttime. You will get an email from Drafttime that the draft has started. At this point you can manage your Q's and make picks if you wish. Play around with the Q features. They are very nice. Clock will not begin until Thursday at NOON. Many of you have used drafttime for baseball, but here are some important features:

Although there is a provision for a designated picker in Drafttime, it is not needed as there is an "autopick" which you can set for 0 min, or any delay you want (ie., it will wait xx minutes for you to pick and it you do not, it auto picks for you). You can turn your Q's on and off. So you can fill a Q and keep it on or off. If open, the computer will autopick for you so be aware of that. Q's are round specific.

Warning: the draft will go much faster than you might expect so be prepared with your Q's.

After you draft your player, you MUST go to CBS and add him to your team. This keeps the CBS data base up to date.

This Supplemental Draft will be comprised of 11 rounds and the order is in post #89 and (input into Drafttime) through now. As a reminder, you may only select players listed in our CBS database. We ask that there is no mention of undrafted players during the draft please. In the unlikely event there is a player you wish to draft is in CBS and not in drafttime, please contact Judy, Ref and Cards so hopefully one of us can take a look.

There will be a per pick time limit to start the draft of THREE (3) hours and a cumulative draft clock of TWELVE (12) hours. This means that your total time you take to draft each round will continue to accrue. If you hit 12 hrs you will be skipped automatically. If you are skipped due to a pick or cumulative clock, you may still post your selection at any time. If you have not selected your last pick by the time it is your turn to pick again, you will be skipped automatically. The commishs may reduce clocks as needed. Time will not accrue between midnight and 8 am ET, but picks may still be made during this time. This draft will move faster than we are used to with all the Qs. Commishs will have to manually skip a manager who is skipped twice. Please contact all three of us!!! There will likely not be a chart posted but we will keep track of the "suspect" managers. Please understand that this is not a personal penalty, but simply a way to start as late as possible and still get this deep draft complete in a timely manner so three of four people can't hold up the draft for everyone. Since we went to this system several years ago, our drafts have been very quick and rarely does someone time out of their c clock. Per pick timed-outs also are infrequent.

Trades: If a trade has been made, a commish must approve it and put it into drafttime. You may draft for each other if it is a timliness issue and you are certain the trade will go through.
Please note that CT has an extra draft pick and gshade is short a drft pick. 11.20 belongs to CT up until the time that the pick comes up. However, we've had to put gshade in there to satisfy drafttime. If that pick is not used, gshade may not keep that pick.

With that said, Frick's Vikings have the first pick and may pick as soon as the draft is started!!!

Thanks and good luck.

112

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 21:32

Time to start looking at players.

113

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 21:40

With clock stopped from 12 to 8 am EDT I can be time stopped out before 8:01 am PDT. I am really getting damned tired of the east coast bias in all these clock stoppages- Be reasonable on the west coast we don't need a clock stoppage at 9 pm. Furthermore it really isn't fair that our stoppage ends before 8 am much less at 5am. If I get time stopped because of these silly bioased rules I certainly will not be exceedingly irate.
You do realize 25% of the Country lives in Califormnia !

114

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:09

Valkyrie

The clock is stopped, but you can still pick and work on your Q's as the draft is still open. It just means that a pick is not required.

You can use Q's with the autopick to manage stuff for your next round.

But I hear you...would 1 am make a big difference -- maybe we need to ask folks...

115

Great One
ID: 36214199
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:14

If it would help I think I have an extra pick and shade can have my last one if so. Consider it like future considerations of our big trade we just did or something like that.

116

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:36

Judy I don't ex[ect to time out anyway but it is the principle of the thing- You east coasters are so damn myopic.(As an east coastr transplant I am quite sensitive to the need to realize that a big wide world exits west of the Atlantic Ocean.

117

Great One
ID: 36214199
Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 23:17

I wonder if we can't brainstorm a flex east/west time zone idea we could pitch to Fred and Kafenatid.

118

Frick
ID: 387512315
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 08:18

I just tried to add my draft pick, but CBS wouldn't allow the transaction.

119

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 09:02

what was the message you got?

120

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 09:07

Should work now, had to turn off waivers

121

Frick
ID: 387512315
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 09:53

Still wasn't able to add Ingram.

Your Commissioner has disabled your Add/Drops. Please contact your Commissioner about reactivating them.

122

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 10:26

I'm sure there are a lot of east coasters that would prefer a downtime of 9-5 instead of 12-8. It's never going to be perfect and I agree 5 AM sucks for most people. However it works both ways since I'm guessing most east coasters aren't typically up past 11 PM. With the advanced queue system it's pretty easy to set a queue and you should be golden.

123

Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:04

Nice writeup, thanks for bringing back awful memories of that defensive TD off that stupid 4th quarter Drew Brees flip or whatever it was he was trying to do... that was the backbreaker. You wouldn't have thought any team vs. New Orleans offense would be a good matchup, but they really stepped up that night.

124

Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:11

Sent emails to a couple people about trading 1.05. Hit me up if u are interested in a trade or pick swaps.

125

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:27

118-121 We turn off add/drops in the offseason. Looks like Cards has turned them on correctly. Are you able to add players now? Looks correct.

126

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:32

Something isn't right. I don't see how to even pick up a player at this point...Checking other places...

127

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:38

OK, I found the issue.

Settings are correct. CBS changed their stuff. When you click on a player a pop up box appears. Next to his name there will be a + that you have to click on to get him.

128

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:41

I'll be out for a few hours, Dr's appt at 11:00. I doubt if I have any thing to worry about & have no idea of a queue from here.

129

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:42

Judy's got my digits along with several others anyway. lol

130

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:59

Let the east coast queue- let's just be somewhat fair- by the way look at daylight vs standard time- Early times are history- the farmers are out of power now so 5 am does not exist for most of us ! (Farmers and shift workers excepted).

131

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 12:27

OK then.

I think I've figured out our hold up. CT has a person in his Q, but he did not turn it on to autopick, so it is unavailable except to admins who won't act w/o permission --unless he is about to time out...

I just sent him an email, so hopefully we will be on our way shortly. I am out from 2:15 to about 3:45 or so.

132

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:43

I can not add Daniel Thomas on cbs- even when I go the player and click on pick him up I get a commish has blocked your add/drop access???

133

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:45

I have same situation as Frick.

134

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:24

132: I will check yet again. I it showing as able. I might have been able to as a commish.

East Coast Biased: Agreed. this has been something we have discussed for a long time. We polled the league two or three straight years and the west coasters at that time said it was fine as it is. I am not a west coaster and I don't like it either--esp. with a 3 hr clock. But you can pick when you CAN pick at any time--the only thing that stops is the clock. I am not sure how late we can take it though. 9 am is till 6 am. If we go a later night time then we are talking about the clock running after midnight for ET. I am definitely open to changing it. If we get behind we may have to cut per pick down to 2 hrs later in the draft, but I think we are fine. If someone wants to expand the draft pause, speak up now with proposals.

135

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 14:31

I changed it off and changed it back. It is set right. Have sent a ticket to support for help.

Judy and I are both going to be unavailable for a little bit.

136

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:06

ref- it is more the principle than the effect- if I time out for any reason I am sure given the unjust application of the timing a retriactive correction will be made. The fact is you east coasters don't run everything everywhere and it's time you recognized that ! Maybe we should go to Greenwich time and screw everyone equally.
The sun doesn't even set over the ocean for you- how can you have the best of everything?

137

Ref
ID: 106141018
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:32

Figured out the add issue. Can't do it frOm my phone. Sent solution to cards and Judy. I'll be on a pc on an hr or so if they can't. I restricted adds from nonplayoff teams so ww didn't messed up for playoff teams.

138

Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:36

Its cause the world revolves around New York City, look it up, its the truth.

139

Ref
ID: 106141018
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 15:39

136: new nIghtly draftpause is 9pm - 5am Pacific Time. :)

Seriously though, w/o making a change to that clock, fixing a skipped pick may not be 100% possible--hence the call for a change today. Fortunately the Qs help us but hard to set far in advance--for me anyhow.

140

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 16:24

I would like Greenwich time. it would still be 1 or 2 hours off for me, but better than 6 (ET) or 9 (PT).

the problem I have with all the timezones is that you don't know which web site is operating in which time zone, especially with all the different timezones in the US. some of the sites allow me to set my timezone, some of them don't and some of them switch between GMT, ET and PT and I have no idea which timezone is displayed. I am talking about you, Yahoo!

141

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 16:44

Yeah, we probably aren't very convenient for Austria!!!

Permissions fixed. Pick up your players please.

142

Ref
ID: 33757623
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 16:58

Picked up all players through now.

143

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 17:28

Anybody else in the path of Irene?

She should begin to hit Philly/NJ area Sat night and stick around for about 24 hours. Do we have contingencies if folks do not have power? It doesn't seem fair to mess up a draft due to mother nature... I know we can set Q's but how far in advance will they last?

Just askin' in case she really does arrive here or at anyone else. Going out now to take in the porch furniture...

144

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 17:55

Really hate this rookie class. I'm sure I'm missing someone. Not a big fan at all at taking a QB that will be a work in progress but there just wasn't much else out there. Definitely a few non rookie that I considered.

145

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:42

trade bait bmd, trade bait...

146

Frick
ID: 52182321
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 19:29

I considered the 3 picks that came after me, but in the end, I couldn't justify picking a 2nd developmental QB. I wish you all the best of luck.

147

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 21:32

For the draft, we need to use the Q system. In drafttime, you can load up a Q, but keep it unavailable, turning it on after you are sure that's what you want to do.
You need then to set it to autopick and you can put a delay in there, so when you get the email that it is your turn to pick you can use that timed delay to make sure it is what you want -- if you need to do that.

You need to set up your email alert system. You can have drafttime notify you right before your pick or even sooner -- mine is set for 3 picks out.

As I look over the home page, I see the Q's from picks 1.15 to 1.24 empty except for two managers who have Q's filled and autopick on. Every other Q is empty.

I urge you to use the Q system or we'll still be picking when the first game goes off on Sept 8th!

Fred put in most of our suggestions to make drafttime better, but it is up to us to use those features.

148

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 22:42

Sorry, I thought I would be able to use a default ranking of some kind but there wasn't one and I had no time to go through and find names and enter each one. Would be much easier if there were a default list you could reorder like in yahoo. Just got home and made my pick.

149

Frick
ID: 387512315
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 08:27

Isn't there an option to import a list? I haven't played with it, but it probably takes time to set up as well.

150

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 08:52

Frick yes there is.

Up at the tippy top next to you sign in is a pre rank players button. You can make a list and then import it.

151

Great One
ID: 574139
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 08:53

Will pick around 9 AM.

152

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 09:25

FYI

If you click on a manager's name, you get to see his/her players. You also get to see your total clock time. Note that we will need to adjust it for those who picked before we turned the clock on... The clock was turned on at 2:17 for those of you who like math. When you click on the player list, you get to see who has not been taken yet. YOu can sort each of those columns alphabetically.

153

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 10:47

Up at the tippy top next to you sign in is a pre rank players button. You can make a list and then import it.

The problem is you have to make the list to begin with. May be helpful for multiple drafts, but not much help otherwise. Not having any kind of scouting tools or sorting tools or import tools really limits the usefulness of that site for drafting. Has some nice features, but becomes very time consuming to set up and requires ranking done somewhere else, then finding the player by name and entering them.

I was hopeful that the import function would allow import of some default pre-ranked list that could then be modified.

154

Ref
ID: 33757623
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:18

Got a Q set. Hope the guys make it. I am going to try and find some time to add guys just in case.

155

Great One
ID: 574139
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 13:15

I talked with Fred about the pre-rank and he expects by baseball draft time he'll have this adjusted with a default type ranking to import for everyone to manipulate. He's been playing around with how to implement it, but doesn't expect he'll have it ready by this fall in time for hoops, hockey etc.

Like is mentioned above, it wasn't a huge deal for me cause i qued up like 200 players one time and then used across multiple drafts.

156

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:04

I am going out until about 8 or so. Left a small Q -- probably won't last...

157

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 17:29

Would people remember to pickup their players on CBS? It's useless to research if you're having to go back and forth as the players are on CBS and already picked in Draftime.

I know an autopick is different, but if you could at least pick them up somethime.

And after that, I'm gone for about 3 hrs and have left the next 2 rounds on auto w/o delay and available to pickers so I take that to mean anyone can draft the player, but if one of the commish's would add my player if it gets to me, I'd be grateful as always, ds

Wife is actually laying out my clothes to get me off the pc. later

158

Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 21:10

Draftime for some reason has switched me off.
I have tried to reconnect using my email address and what I thought would be my username without any luck.

Can you let me know how I can contact draftime without knowing my username.

Also please switch off my auto pick

Broncos

159

Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 21:35

My auto pick went ahead and took Kaepernick whom I am OK with

160

Slackjawed Yokel
ID: 6710121
Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 22:50

cc - I think your username is just 'coldwater coyotes'. it should be the same as the manager name it shows on the draft page.

161

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 00:23

cc - It's what your old Kaffinated Id & P/W were if you still have them. They were migrated over.

162

Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 02:22

Got it. Thanks

163

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 07:04

Why are we continuing this here instead of the Football Standings & Leagues Forum as we did in prior year's Drafts? Shouldn't we move until regular season discussion begins again? (had a cup of java before asking my first question so it's not quite as dumbass as usual,) dds....errr ds

164

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:21

trading this current pick

details very soon.

165

Doug
ID: 217252712
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:25

4.17 for 3.20 (21 slots for Doug)
and
6.17 for 7.20 (27 slots for mjd)
and
9.17 for 10.20 (27 slots for mjd)

166

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 13:39

Confirmed.

Should I just make Doug's pick and swap it later or can a commish switch the board now?

167

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 14:16

I don't want to hold things up, so I'll make this 3.20 pick for Doug. It can be sorted out later. Doug expects to lose his power soon.

168

Ref
ID: 33757623
Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 22:16

The trade has been processed. PLEASE email all three commishs when there is a trade or you need us. mjd is OTC.

169

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 10:52

We are half-way through the draft. Right on schedule.

170

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:54

It's so funny. Guy has a good preseason game and bingo picked right up:
Taiwan Jones
Berrian

must mean we are getting to the dregs and we have 5 rounds left. What hidden gem will be "discovered" next?

171

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 14:06

Mario Williams is listed as a DL on our draft software- I want him as a DL- cbs only lists him as a LB- I would not have drafted him as a LB?
I think he has to retain DL eligeabilty or it defeats the whole purpose of us using draft software if he does not. I request a ruling from the Commish. thank you.

172

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 14:14

Its whatever CBS has him as. Thats what matters.

Kafenatid can have him as anything they want, they could have him at QB if they wanted... cause there might be some league out there with different eligibility rules that lets you play him at that position that is not CBS. But where CBS has him eligible is all that matters to us.

173

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 14:31

In that case I really protest having to pay for Kafetenid when it flaming screwed me over- making me waste a pick. Why are we using Kafenetid anyway ? Of course it's still 100% better than the myfanleague draft thing.
Can I pull my pick and replace it with something i want?

174

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:02

The best I can tell is that Mario Williams was moved to OLB for this season. I'm sorry you didn't realize that he didn't have DL eligibilty, but once a pick is made, you have to wait for waivers to run to get somebody else. I can't think of an instance where we let somebody change their pick unless it was a duplicate pick, but that shouldn't happen using draftime.

175

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:18

You are missing the point. Its not Kafenatid's fault, its your responsibility to check your league website's eligibility requirements.

How does kafenatid know if you are using ESPN, Yahoo, CBS or GO's Fantasypalooza (coming soon)?
ESPN - Mario is DL eligible actually. So how does the draft utility know that you aren't using ESPN?

176

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:36

fine- I see your points- Tell me again why are we using Kafenetid when it is inaccurate and misleading? Actually it doesn't really matter- It is a good lesson to be learned during rebuilding rather than sometime in the future when my team will be fighting for a playoff berth.

177

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:43

Actually St Lo- I did know that Mario Williams was being used at OLB in 3-4 sets this year- I also know he was a DE in 4-3 all last year. What I did not know was that our draft sight had meaningless and misleading position designations.

178

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:46

I agree it is misleading, because when you type the players name in it does have a position listed next to them in draftime. I guess the lesson is to always check the eligibility in the league you are drafting for.

The reason we are using draftime is to take some of the burden off the commishes who otherwise had to monitor the draft the entire week looking for duplicate picks, expired clocks, emailing who was up, etc. Would be nice if we could use the cbs draft tool but ref checked and it was missing some features.

179

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:47

Because Mario Williams is DL eligible in Yahoo and ESPN. How are they being inaccurate and misleading about his position?

Cause CBS is off doing its own thing with position eligibility and took DL away from him?

180

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 16:02

Let's see why is it misleading- Oh because our draft site that we are using lists him as a DL yet the gamesite which we are supposed to manually transfer our picks denies him the drafted status- Duh- Is it unreasonable to expect that when you draft a player at DL- he is actually a DL ? Obviously it is unreasonable in our league.
Like I said screw it- it's not like it is going to cost me a playoff spot-it's just ridiculous to have to pay for a misleading site where DLs aren't really DLs.

181

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 16:39

His default suggested position is DL because it's what ESPN/Yahoo categorize him as. It's up to you to change it to accurately reflect what your host site CBS chooses to do. And for whatever reason they choose to only consider him an LB. When you make the pick you can change the position right next to his name to mirror CBS's choice.

In the future, I suggest you make the pick on CBS first to be sure, and then go over to Kafenatid and match what you just did on CBS.

I would also click into Williams name now on kafenatid and switch him to LB so he's current.

182

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 16:48

Is there a setting in draftime that would allow the commish to click a setting that would then match positions up with whatever league was being used?

It's easy enough to click a player's position to match after you draft him, however, before you draft him, when you click on a players name, it also shows a position. Would be extrememly helpful if that position was the same as the default used in draftime, so if that were configurable it would be a big help.

183

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 16:56

GO- there are a lot of things I could do in the future. The first is to suggest to you that you should not piss off managers who have clearly been wronged by your system.

184

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 17:14

Not my system sir, I just have common sense to check my host website to see where its gonna let me play a given player before picking them. Cause I know ESPN, Yahoo, CBS all categorize them differently. If I played on some website that only let me play Vick at RB, I wouldn't get pissed at some draft proxy for suggesting he is a QB. Who thinks that Mario should still be DL eligible? Kafenatid, Yahoo, Valkaryie, ESPN, GO... who doesn't? CBS. So take it up with them.

Cards, I wonder if they couldn't code it to feed in a player database from the various websites somehow with hosting site specific position designation.

185

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 17:22

GO I have accepted it- let it go but at least have the courtesy to stop trying to justify it or the system that caused it or pretending it is my own fault for not seeing it coming. If I were prescient I could fix the team I have w/o needing a #7 draft choice at all.

186

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 09:46

I know it's been said multiple times but it would be great if people immediately picked up their players in CBS after drafting them. Nothing is more frustrating then researching someone that is still on the CBS board only to find out he's been gone for 2 rounds and still hasn't been picked up.

187

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 11:51

Got to admit it I have lost my edge since my 7th rounder was forfeited.

188

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 14:51

Of course, I forgot to pick up Tramon Williams. Foot in my mouth imo.

189

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 14:00

Again, I have a lot of rl issues going on and I am unable to spend the time on here I used to spend. Am just seeing this issue.

CBS site takes precedence over everything. Draftime wasn't even trusted to have all players available in CBS (as mentioned in 111) and there is nothing a commish can do to change a player's eligibility. It is solely controlled by CBS. CBS HAS made changes in the past but they will not make a player multi-positional in football. You can send CBS a msg asking them to change.

I do all my research before selecting a player on CBS. Making sure he is still available, etc. It is perfectly understandable that a recent auto-pick was still in CBS db, but picks made several rounds previously is frustrating. For that reason, I am going to try and make CBS' draft site work for us in the future. This will put players on their team automatically.

I think the draft went very well. Much better and faster than posting in here and the Qs are huge. I still need to make the time to get the schedules input and will also get the draft picks put in the standings forum for historical reference.

190

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 14:06

Reminder: No adds or drops are allowed except to pick up your draft picks. Will turn on waivers probably Sun so they run no earlier than Tues morning.

191

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 18:34

2011 Draft in Football Leagues Forum

192

Great One
ID: 574139
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 09:28

Tree put this in the Poli thread a few days ago, showed how productive we were over here vs. a board only draft they are doing.

the G24 did 214 picks - 9 rounds, 24 teams - in just over 4 days - an average of about 50 picks a day.
RIFC did 336 picks - 24 rounds, 14 teams - in 8 days - an average of about 42 picks a day.
we've (Poli) done 120 picks and aren't done yet. it's taken us 9 days so far. that's about 13 picks a day.

193

Great One
ID: 574139
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 09:30

I was unaware CBS only does the one position thing, thats interesting.
I may just get kickoff and punt return yards from one of my QB's (Brad Smith)... so odd...

194

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 09:55

G24 did 11 rounds, not 9.

195

Frick
ID: 387512315
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 10:00

I'm not going to complain, I believe it was this league were I was able to start Julian Edelman at QB and pick up a few points. This league is brutal with QB injuries and the price it can cost to trade for even a bad QB.

196

Great One
ID: 3447277
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 10:20

I know Judy, Tree did that a few days ago. We hadn't finished.

197

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 13:01

Good article by Cards on the Championship game for us last season. Anyone may write articles on our site like this.

198

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 14:49

Looks like all drafted players have now been added to their teams.

199

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 16:09

2011 Schedule

Comapare that one with CBS please.

200

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sat, Sep 03, 2011, 11:25

Payment information has been posted on the league website in case anyone has missed it.

201

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Sun, Sep 04, 2011, 01:28

IR already for my TE Moeaki...
who has Jennings?

202

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Sep 04, 2011, 13:53

Can you post here when your turn on waivers?

Thanks.

203

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Sep 04, 2011, 17:06

The waiver order has to be set first. I never can remember if we set it before or after we turn on waivers. I seem to remember that we start waivers and then set the order, but I'm sure ref knows.

204

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Sep 05, 2011, 12:05

203 is correct. Am working on things now. Have to do a lot of settings and checks before turning it on. Almost done now.

205

deepsnapper
ID: 0844511
Mon, Sep 05, 2011, 12:44

<204> answered my question. lol

206

Ref
ID: 34731299
Mon, Sep 05, 2011, 14:11

Waivers are turned on and season is underway. I was able to move up the Waivers default until ~ 2 am ET Wednesday morning as the earliest. This means you have until then to make a claim. After waivers run, all players who were not just dropped will be Free Agents. Dropped players need 1 full day plus the remainder of that day to clear waivers. So if you drop a player at any time on a Thursday, he will be available to come off waivers early Saturday morning. You must claim him before then or he will be a FA and can be picked up first come, first serve.

This week the Packers and Saints play on Thursday. The players on these teams will lock 5 mins before game time. You may not make any transactions with these players this week after their lock. However, all other players are fair game until the normal 5 mins before kickoff of the first game on Sunday.

All trades must be approved by a commish. If a commish thinks a trade is questionable that commish will consult another commish. Your trade that is agreed to close to the weeks' deadline may still be approved, but please give us time as we may not see it in time to approve it. Also if it is questionable, it could be delayed. This can be critical when guys are covering bye weeks. Please plan ahead so our last minute unavailablility doesn't affect your plans.

When you make a trade in CBS please make sure any draft pick trades are clearly defined in that offer. If that is not what you agreed to, decline it and offer it back the other way. Don't simply reply to the offer what you think it should be and accept it. Sometimes email communication can be misunderstood. Also make sure a commish properly lists any traded draft picks properly in the rules.

Thanks and have a great season!

207

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Sep 12, 2011, 15:48

Should we have a new thread to discuss the season -- it was kinda boring with no chatter this weekend, considering some of the games were interesting...?

208

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 10:51

Good start for the Cats this week. Keep it up!

209

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 10:55

207: We can keep it all in one thread. That collapsing of the 50 posts has really helped the last few years.

210

Peter N.
ID: 578481219
Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 20:02

Good start for the NFC South! We have rankings 2 through 6 in the power rankings. This division is notoriously tough and it looks like it won't be any different this year.

211

Great One
ID: 268281023
Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 20:20

Not a good start for the NY Jets, and this weekends matchups don't get any easier. I'd be happy to get out of W2 1-1.

Hopefully dodged a bullet with Amendola too. We'll see.

212

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Sep 19, 2011, 13:16

In two weeks I've had Hartley, Amendola, Charles and now Hernandez sprained MCL. All starters. Outstanding.

I'm not sure which direction to go with Charles, but I suppose any rebuilding teams are worth chatting with.

213

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 09:19

I need to tweak my roster. I have extra starting WRs I can move. Looking for a RB, but also could consider another position who could make an impact.

Adjustments for negative yards have been entered (remember CBS does not compute negative gains and we have to do that manually. As always, let me know if I missed any).

214

Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 10:56

I assume CBS doesn't have IR spots? or we don't have that option even if they did?

215

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 22:35

We don't use IR.

216

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Sep 27, 2011, 13:57

Lots of adjustments this week.

217

Great One
ID: 418501919
Tue, Sep 27, 2011, 18:36

Do ESPN and Yahoo computer the negative yards? I am just curious for comparison purposes. I know we can't leave CBS cause of the history etc.

218

Peter N.
ID: 118102719
Tue, Sep 27, 2011, 20:12

Sorry Slizz! I had written that game off as my first loss. Spencer pulled it out at the end with the fumble forced against grossman.

219

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 16:20

217: Yes. Every other site I've ever seen compute the negative yards. CBS just doesn't get it.

220

Great One
ID: 574139
Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 16:24

Thats really weird.

221

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 17:54

So is it wrong only if the player nets negative yards for the game, or does it not compute negative plays?

It's a good thing sacks count as passing yards in the NFL!

222

Judy
ID: 54203110
Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 20:51

Where do they post the stat corrections?

223

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Sep 29, 2011, 13:30

Neg yds. Shows up in box score. Adjustments are at bottom.

224

Peter N.
ID: 48592919
Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 20:24

My team proved last week that if Brady and McFadden aren't putting up video game numbers, I don't stand a chance.

225

judy
Leader
ID: 7771722
Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 00:25

If I get 50 points out of my lineup this week, it would be a good week. My team stinks!!

226

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 17:50

Lost my backup QB for the year.. and he was actually performing. Hopefully Stafford can prove to be a durable QB or I am toast.

227

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 20:08

If anybody wants a handcuff for their starting RB, Toby Gerhart, Justin Forsett, and Deji Karim are all available for IDP or pick upgrades next year. Need to make a trade this week so time is of the essence.

228

Great One
ID: 418501919
Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 12:51

Playing 0-8 2Sj and I'm a 30 point underdog, and I don't have people on bye either. Nice!

229

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 13:39

The iggles are pathetic... At least the phillies had pitching.

230

Great One
ID: 418501919
Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 13:44

Don't sleep on the Dream Team!

231

Frick
ID: 387512315
Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 09:49

As the season has progressed, how many people would have taken Cam Newton as the #1 pick in this years draft? Looking back, I wish that I had, especially given Ingram's performance and role, but Newton has basically been the opposite of my expectations.

232

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Oct 17, 2011, 09:12

Still a lot of people that haven't paid.

233

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Oct 21, 2011, 17:51

Here's my QB choice this week:

Kolb vs Pgh
OR
Ponder vs GB

Any thoughts -- anyone?????

234

Toral
ID: 5688310
Sat, Oct 22, 2011, 11:13

The experts have a strong opinion.

235

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Sat, Oct 22, 2011, 13:51

So they do. Nice site. Thanks.

236

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Sat, Oct 22, 2011, 14:03

Previewed to lose one game by 46 and the other by 45.

YIPES!!

237

Peter N.
ID: 48592919
Sat, Oct 22, 2011, 23:45

Trade

I acquire Boller + YR's 9th round pick for my 7th round pick.

Commissioners, anyway I can get Boller put in my starting lineup before tomorrow? Thanks

238

Great One
ID: 418501919
Sun, Oct 23, 2011, 12:52

Thank for accurate projections CBS. Despite being out for the year, Thomas Davis is the highest projected IDP this week. Maybe I'll go with him.

239

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 23, 2011, 19:23

Javier Arenas (DB), scored a TD on offense.

Do I not get credit for that because he's an IDP, or will that be counted?

240

Great One
ID: 418501919
Sun, Oct 23, 2011, 21:14

It should be counted, though I don't know what CBS does. I know Yahoo includes it, i.e. if my kicker throws for a TD.

241

Great One
ID: 418501919
Sun, Oct 23, 2011, 21:14

and even if my offensive players pick up tackles on special teams or after and INT etc.

242

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Oct 23, 2011, 21:48

Under our scoring system it differentiates scoring for offensive categories, defensive categories, and special scoring for DL, LB, and DB.

Only IDPs are eligible for defensive scoring, but it does not specify one way or the other as to what players are eligible for scoring in offensive categories.

243

Great One
ID: 574139
Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 10:45

I thought I got a few Vrabel touchdowns a few years ago when they'd put him in on the goal line, but maybe I'm imagining it.

244

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 11:37

I'm not having the luck with matchups I had last year. The Browns have some guy I never heard of roll up 33 pts on me.

2-0 next week or it won't matter if I have a backup for Stafford's bye.

245

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 18:03

OMG -- now Hightower is out. I see a "Suck for Luck" in my future. My team can't win - whether they try or not!

I will go into rebuilding mold...too bad I already drafted Ponder this year, but maybe I can use him as bait!

246

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 23:07

That Arenas TD will count. If CBS does not correct it, a commish will.

I do recall getting beat a couple years ago by a kicker throwing a TD pass.

247

Frick
ID: 387512315
Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 08:22

I thought I had made a decent move by picking up Dave Rayner to fill in my bye week Kicker issue, as it was a fairly late announcement that Janikowski wasn't going to play. It would have worked great if Oakland had managed to score a single time in any method other than a safety. I guess I should be happy he didn't cause me negative points.

248

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 09:16

Adjustments complete. One result was affected.

249

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Oct 28, 2011, 00:17

Well. I wonder I am 1-13. My schedule is rated as the #1 most difficult. That plus my team stinks. I might squeak out a win this week though...

Up late, waiting for WS to end...this game is taking forever!!

250

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 30, 2011, 14:29

TD by mccourty on PB???

251

Toral
ID: 329413013
Sun, Oct 30, 2011, 14:41

Why do my QBs hate me? Rivers all year, and now, on a day I have a chance, Brees here.

252

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Oct 30, 2011, 15:29

Yea -- ponder outdueling kolb... A positive sign for my team's future. I might actually win one ame today!!! Wheeeeeee!

253

Nerfherders
ID: 417531814
Mon, Oct 31, 2011, 16:55

I'm looking for a bye-week fill QB for week 9. Willing to trade a pick or possibly something else.

254

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Oct 31, 2011, 17:49

If Bradford is out again I would have Feeley available.

255

Toral
ID: 329413013
Mon, Oct 31, 2011, 18:09

OK, Ok lambaste me...I have 2 DSTs and din't start ST LOUIS against Dallas..loss of 19.5 points.

If anybody wants one of my Ds, Indy or StL, for a bye, or because of some strange perversity on your part, a very small draft upgrade would be sufficient.

Time to start watching the top college players getting ready for next year...

256

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Oct 31, 2011, 23:05

Even though I'm out of it now, I still might have interest in one of your DST for a bye week replacemnet.

257

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Oct 31, 2011, 23:29

Anybody want desean jackson? It would need to be a young keeper WR/RB...

258

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Nov 01, 2011, 14:50

Bye week kicker available-cheap.

259

Building 7
ID: 541057215
Wed, Nov 02, 2011, 16:58

Toral: A very small draft upgrade sent via G24. Counteroffers accepted, if you don't like it.

260

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 18:00

One of those seasons. A few teams have scored some of the highest points in the league but yet are sitting with losing records.

261

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Wed, Nov 09, 2011, 14:30

I still think that my team isn't that great this year. and this while sitting at the top of a division with the 4th most points for and the 4th most points against. it will be tough fighting for the division because 2nd place might not be enough to reach the playoffs.

I have big matchup this week against the Eagles who destroy the competition until now. I mean the G24 Eagles not the Philadelphia Eagles. they look better on paper than on the field.

262

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Nov 09, 2011, 16:57

I cringe every time I look at Deepsnapper's Eagles. Rodgers is tearing it up and of course I had him stashed on my team but finally decided to drop him for a bye week TE IIRC, as I finally realized that Favre would never retire. So of course Deepsnapper snapped up Rodgers and Favre retired (from GB anyway) and here I sit thinking what could have been.

263

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Nov 09, 2011, 18:18

The smoke and mirrors have gone and my team has finally been exposed as the bad team it is. My rl has been so crazy that I haven't had much time either. I just remembered that I haven't made adjustments yet...will get to that in a few.

Thursday game this week. If anyone sees a trade opp w/me, you'll have to initiate as I'm swamped.

264

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Fri, Nov 11, 2011, 11:15

Looking for a DST that has an easy week 14 game and possibly easy week 15 game. Not looking to spend much so prefer a crappy D.

Also, looking for a very good linebacker.

265

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 01:32

The poor Lions just cant buy a break this year. I at least, so far, can say this team is an improvement over last year's, as far as points, but my PA is very unlucky this year. Eleven losses, sadly, wont make the playoffs in this league.

266

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 09:22

Always amazes me how close things get in this league. A 0.26 pt loss to Pete and a game lost after a cbs adjustment on a Tuesday is the difference between being 11-9 and in a great spot for a wild card and 9-11 and having to hope for miraculous things just to make it in.

Every year there are teams who's playoff fates are decided by a game won or lost by a point or two during the regular season or by the playoff tie breaker.

267

Judy
ID: 54203110
Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 10:31

I know my team stinks with the least PF by far, but do you have to rub it in by having the second highest PA??

Sheesh. Major rebuilding in my future...

268

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 09:23

You guys are a bunch of QB whores.

As much as my team needs to be blown up and sink to the bottom, I've still worked hard to be competitive. Have suffered injury after injury. now I lose my QB for the year and there are a ton of QBs this week but you guys who don't need them all pounce on them. UGH!

269

Frick
ID: 387512315
Thu, Nov 17, 2011, 16:48

To the commissioner who pushed the Campbell/Cutler trade through. You are no longer on my Christmas Card list.

I didn't want to have to make the decision on who to start Cutler or Tebow until after this weeks games.

Ugh, I know what ever decision I make on Tebow will end up being wrong.

270

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Nov 17, 2011, 17:18

LOL, I hear you Frick. You would think with a 13% passing to running ratio the decision would be easy, except that most of the running will be done by the QB! Flip a coin and hope for the best. I'll have Demaryius Thomas on the bench so he'll likely be good for a break out game anyway.

271

Frick
ID: 52182321
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 08:39

I ended up letting my kids make my decision for me. They kept me away from a computer until after the game had started. Cutler could have a huge game this weekend, but I'm happy with Tebow's performance last night.

272

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 14:34

The rushing yds and rush TDs for QBs are HUGE!

273

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 16:12

And Thomas did have his break out game just as I predicted, being the leading receiver for the Broncos! Of course with Tebow at the helm, that means 2 receptions for 37 yds.

274

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Nov 21, 2011, 08:59

Looks like your decision on Cutler vs Tebow just got easier.

275

Frick
ID: 52182321
Mon, Nov 21, 2011, 17:21

Not the answer I was hoping for.

276

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Nov 21, 2011, 22:14

Kevin Smith. Wow! Nice pick up GO, wish I would have been a believer and picked him up over Harry Douglas as my bye week replacement. I'm sure my other replacement, Ochocinko, is going to break out at any second, lol.

277

Great One
ID: 113241019
Wed, Nov 23, 2011, 10:01

Yeah that was lucky but and he won't do me any good this season. So anyone who wants him make a draft pick (and/or injured player) trade offer please make an offer. I will look tonight. I am on vacation so its hard to do to much work on it.

Remember he plays tomorrow at noon.
I also have 2 good TE's in Keller/Hernandez I need to move one of and Hawthorne would be really good IDP addition to someone who wants another LB.

278

Great One
ID: 5610332123
Sun, Nov 27, 2011, 20:41

Get all excited to get Andre back in the lineup and field an actual team, and he puts up a stinker in his return... and i bench Avant who gets 17. And waste some great performances from CJ, Keller and Sanchez.

279

Nerfherders
ID: 2829613
Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 07:22

My trade with Texans confirmed my 8th for his 5th.

280

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 20:20

Am I allowed to not start a DST this week or will it void my other points. I have the Jints vs the pack and that means negative points...

281

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 23:30

not starting a DST would result in an invalid lineup and 0 pts for the whole team.

282

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sat, Dec 03, 2011, 14:04

In my trade with GO, he gets my 3rd round pick next year, I get his 7th.

Andre Caldwell to be dropped to open a roster spot for Keller on my roster.

283

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sat, Dec 03, 2011, 14:05

Ok... :(

284

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 15:26

Looks like I've got my QB of the future -- Ponder with Kolb as the back up...gotta start to build from somewhere with this team...

Iggles face Miami next week -- anyone up for another slaughter??

285

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 18:15

Just saying'

Would love to follow RIFC and ditch The DST for 2012. With 24 teams there are not enough DST to go around to make it truly competitive. Plus with the high powered offenses, it often ends up in single digits or negatives... Possibly the only position to do so regularly.

Anyone else onboard?

286

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 19:25

Judy - not a fan of losing the DST. I have the Ravens defense and this would seriously damage my team. this would only work if you know this at least 1 season in advance and/or only if you get some compensation. I would have the same opinion if my defense would be a crappy one not worth keeping.

on the other front: it looks like I may not reach the playoffs. thanks for playing a team that scores 150+ pts. again and again and again! every time a team scored that much it was me or an opponent of mine.
most likely I will have the 3rd highest points scored and the 2nd highest points against of the league. have we ever thought of making the 2nd wild card based on points rather than record?

go Daryl Smith! I need you to outscore Antonio Gates by 6.5pts.

287

Valkyrie
Dude
ID: 47042413
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 22:28

I don't think it is fair to scrap team D's completely although mine suck but i do think you should be able to not play a team defense. After all there is no penalty for playing with only 10 men if your 11th is worse than nothing.
Judy I'll take the Giants D off your hands just because I still root for them at least in the first half of the year. Do you want either Denver or Miami D?

288

Judy
ID: 54203110
Sun, Dec 04, 2011, 23:42

V

Sent an email -- if you don't get shoot me one. I am sick of the Jints...

289

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 09:47

"have we ever thought of making the 2nd wild card based on points rather than record?"

yes, we've thought about it and rejected it. Why penalize a team that has more wins? Sometimes that is the luck of the draw. Can't imagine that going over in the nfl and don't see why we should be any different.

I will have the 2nd most pts in the NFC north/south but don't see how it would be fair for my team at 11 or 12 wins to get in ahead of a team with 15 or 16 wins.

"Would love to follow RIFC and ditch The DST for 2012. With 24 teams there are not enough DST to go around to make it truly competitive. Plus with the high powered offenses, it often ends up in single digits or negatives... Possibly the only position to do so regularly."

It's supposed to be all about choices. If DST is an integral part of your team plan then draft or trade for one. Of the top 24 DSTs, the best is the 49ers with a 16.0 average while the 24th is Browns at 6.8 so about a 10 pt differential. If you look at QBs by ave per game, the best is Rodgers at 27.1 and the 24th is Moore at 12.3 about a 15 pt differential. So you could make the same argument about QBs. A lot of teams don't have enough RBs or WRs either. That's what this league was supposed to be about and why it was so deep in the first place.

If the league wants though, any rule can be changed.

BTW, the number 1 rated DST for this year was picked with the 20th pick in this years draft and was the 3rd DST picked, so 19 teams passed on this year's number 1 DST.

290

Great One
ID: 131137510
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 11:37

most points/ most wins - wild card idea... to me its irrelevant that it wouldn't be used in the real NFL, cause this isn't the real NFL and we aren't really on the same field losing a game to somebody else with "real" points.

I think a wild card to highest scoring team is a really good idea. Cause that's all we can really control. And if we did that better than anybody all year, that should be worth something.

291

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 13:05

Sounds good. We'll implement it starting now and then I'm in the playoffs!

Might as well forget about trying to have a strength of schedule as well. Why not forget about h2h altogether and just go simply straight pts if that is all we can control anyway. But that is just my opinion.

292

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 16:38

If we must have a DST on the roster then I would like the option to "sit" it. Zero is better than the minus 3 I had on Sunday. That would be a decision I would make to make my team better on any given day -- a coaching decision so to speak. It's tough to be competitive when your DST is gonna cost you each week. The Jints max was 16.2 vs STL (the real STL team not the G24 one) and the worst was minus 10.5 vs NOLA.

It would have been nice to be able to sit them for the NOLA game.

With all the high powered offenses/QB's especially, should we look to change the stat formula to reflect the high scoring that has become the norm for most real NFL offenses.

You say the #1 DST was picked #20, but that is still the first round for a DST! (And it was mjd's second DST.)I "keep" a DST not because I like them (I don't and should have taken the trade offer in August...) for safety since I don't want to "waste" an early rounder on one. Again, my choice. But if I wait too long (and how long is too long???), there might not be ANY DST left to pick. With 24 picks in between, you could lose out and then be held hostage by someone with two who wants a nice draft pick in return.

There are always tons of other position players to choose, although they might not start on a regular basis. And with all the injuries...

293

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 17:00

more on DST (lotsa free time today -- sorry)

20 managers kept a DST. The four who did not keep got them at 1.15, 1.16, 3.07 and 4.06.

The other picks -- all second DST -- were: 1.20, 2.03, 2.12, 3.04, 3.21, 3.22, 4.07, 5.05.

The guy with the gutsy move was Valkryie who waited until 4.06 for his first DST and there were only two left!

The pairings are (keeper/draft):
Carolina / 49ers (1.20)
Dallas / TB (2.03)
Rams / Colts (2.12)
Miami / Houston (3.04)
AZ / Seattle (3.21)
Balt / Bills (3.22)
NEP / Jax (5.05)

and draft / draft:
Cinn (3.07) / Wash (4/07)

Strategy question: I'd be curious to know from the double up managers if the second DST was used only for a bye week and/or for a trade upgrade? Or did you truly agonize over which one to start each week?

All the DST are currently on rosters... none have been dropped. Wonder why?

I just thought of this -- DST is the only position "player" that never goes on IR or is OUT for a game... hmmm.
You are stuck with it week in and week out...

294

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 17:25

I had Miami. I tried to find the DST that matched up the best with Miami's bad weeks,i.e. vs. New England, bye week. Plus I thought Houston would be improved. Later, it looked like I would start Houston every week, so I cut Miami. Plus I needed the roster space. Now Miami is good.

295

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 17:44

All part of the flexable strategies that make a deep league like this challenging.

296

youngroman
ID: 56523304
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 17:51

I took the Bills defense for 2 reasons: to have a backup in week 5 and to trade them away afterwards for a pick upgrade. there is no way I bench the Ravens even against the best offense, so I see no reason to play matchups. their lowest scores were -1 (TEN) and +1 (SEA) and these matchups looked much better on paper.

still rooting for Daryl Smith to score 6pts more than Antonio Gates.

297

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 21:53

Definitely like the idea of the 2nd wild card team being the one with the most points. Also like the idea of being able to sit Team D if you want.

298

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Mon, Dec 05, 2011, 22:36

I'm not positive, but I'm thinking if I hadn't traded for Wallace and had held onto to Palmer (so the Bears wouldn't have him) that I might have actually made the playoffs. Knew there was that possibility at the time, but it was such a long shot at the time.

299

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 09:30

"You say the #1 DST was picked #20, but that is still the first round for a DST! "

What's wrong with taking a DST in the first round of a supplemental draft where 216 players are already off the board as keepers? SF DST has scored 192.5 pts which is equivalent to the 8th highest ranked QB Matt Ryan this year. And like you said, they can't get hurt and go to IR.

There seem to be 3 elite DSTs this year in the 49ers, Ravens, and the Texans. Some of their success is likely related to schedule as well.

You chose to take Ponder over the 49ers. Valid strategy, but the 49ers were there had you wanted them. Of the 8 DST pairs listed, 5 of them are no longer together so the likely strategy was to cover bye weeks. I traded for a bye week D and have held on to them as the Lions had a difficult schedule compared to the Rams. I have the Lions offered for a 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft. Seems fair to me. The year I won the league I traded my 2nd for a DST upgrade during the season.

As far as benching the DST, I don't see it happening logistically. IMO there would still have to be a requirement to own a DST, or else that team would have to have an open roster spot. Otherwise we might as well drop the requirement to have a K, QB or any position really. Benching a DST in any given week might be a valid strategy, but not having a DST at all would not.

Not having a DST would trigger an invalid roster and 0 pts scored and would require manual intervention each week someone chose to do that. I'm not going to monitor and adjust the scores but if the league votes for it and someone else wants to do it then that is fine with me. The alternative would be to allow any lineup to be valid, but that would cause the potential for a lot more problems.

Maybe we could have a requirement where a team could only own 1 DST that wasn't on a bye week? So I could still trade and cover my bye week, but once both DSTs I owned had games in a week I would have to drop one or the other.

300

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 10:01

Adjustments made changing the 49ers/Az result. Trade deadline passed last week. Teams all bunched up. If I had won my games this week, I make playoffs. Weird when my team is so bad. Need to figure out week 14 matchups...

301

Toral
ID: 010321615
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 10:27

Playoff berths being decided by points is bad, by record good. Mirrors the basic football principle that the ball takes funny bounces, especially if you play with an oblate spheroid.

Likewise as the owner of what I believe is the worst DST in captivity, I recognize that a manager should have to start one.

Perhaps the eventual solution to the possibility of a team finding itself without a DST after the draft is this rule:

Whenever the number of DSTs left in the draft is exactly equal to the number of teams without one, no team already with a DST may draft one of the remaining DSTs, and each team without a DST must draft one with its next pick.

302

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 10:28

Ref, I have all the matchups figured out. Will send you the spreadsheet.

303

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 11:23

My team won a game!!!!! 84.24 to 84.16

Just curious what was the adjustment? I went to bed as a loser...

Sheesh -- overall 4th most points against...last place for most points for

Thanks a heap DJax...

304

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 11:26

oops that's 5th most against -- missed the #1 slot: Lions

305

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 12:05

adjustment was -3 rushing yds by Mike Wallace

306

Nerfherders
ID: 71146612
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 13:46

Yeah. Crazy unlucky on matchups this season. This team was as good or even better than last year's. At least I can take that to heart and have some interesting decisions to make during keeper time next August.

307

Nerfherders
ID: 71146612
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 13:52

On DST's:

Last year I was able to draft a second and used it only on my BYE. After that, I dropped them. This year I missed out on getting a second, but the Bears Bye was long enough out that I thought I could snag a replacement after someone had dropped one. Sure enough, I got the Jags for that week and they turned out to be decent enough that I traded them for a WR and a draft pick upgrade. Pretty good deal!

I would think it would be pretty easy for someone not paying attention to come out of a draft without a DST. Then what happens?

308

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 14:16

Then they have to trade for one. We've been doing this for years and it has never happened and should never happen that a team does not have a D to start the season.

309

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 14:21

I just don't see it happening after never being a problem before in all the years that this league has existed.

310

Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 18:08

My team, Broncos, won one of it's two games this week. However in the standings it shows that the team is on a 2 game losing streak. I haven't checked through total wins for the team for the year.
????

311

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 18:40

Might be a cache problem. I see a 1 game losing streak for the Broncos and when I look at the scoreboard I see you beat the Browns and lost to the Ravens. The weekly schedule shows the Broncos Ravens game as the second game for the Broncos so it seems to fit.

312

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 22:20

Remember that only teams competing in the championship playoff bracket can make adds/drops until they are eliminated.

If you do not fit that category and have placed a waiver claim then please delete it.

313

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 00:48

Final 2011 Regular Season Standings
Super Bowl
1. Philadelphia Eagles
2. San Diego Chargers
3. Minnesota Vikings
4. Buffalo Bills
5. Houston Texans
6. Dallas Cowboys
7. Chicago Bears
8. Oakland Raiders
Wanna-Be Bowl
9. New York Giants
10. Carolina Panthers
11. Cincinnati Bengals
12. Kansas City Chiefs
13. Denver Broncos
14. Baltimore Ravens
15. Indianapolis Colts
16. San Francisco 49ers
Toilet Bowl
17. Detroit Lions
18. New Orleans Saints
19. Seattle Seahawks
20. Jacksonville Jaguars
21. Green Bay Packers
22. New York Jets
23. Cleveland Browns
24. Arizona Cardinals

Week 14: 12/6/11 - 12/12/11 (Playoffs)
Oakland Raiders at San Diego Chargers
Houston Texans at Buffalo Bills
Chicago Bears at Philadelphia Eagles
Dallas Cowboys at Minnesota Vikings
San Francisco 49ers at New York Giants
Indianapolis Colts at Carolina Panthers
Baltimore Ravens at Cincinnati Bengals
Denver Broncos at Kansas City Chiefs
Arizona Cardinals at Detroit Lions
Cleveland Browns at New Orleans Saints
New York Jets at Seattle Seahawks
Green Bay Packers at Jacksonville Jaguars

314

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 11:20

I wasn't paying attention to bye weeks and ended up drafting Seattle who had the same bye week. I ended up passing on the only trade offer which would have netted me negative points. I just as soon take a zero for D/ST than trade draft picks in the 2-3 round for next years draft. I play in 5 leagues and this is the only one that still uses a D/ST.

Cards - one question - If I came in 1st place, why am I playing the 7th place team? I remember losing to the #8 team last year in the 1st round (Dallas).

315

StLCards
ID: 36746177
Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 11:26

Deepsnapper - you're playing the 4th seed in the NFC.

316

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 11:35

gotcha - peter really musta been bad last year. lol

317

Frick
ID: 387512315
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 10:45

Well, I made the play-offs for the first time, but injuries killed me in the end. Game time decisions, paired with me not having net access didn't help, but didn't really affect the Outcome. Congrats PeterN on moving on.

318

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 17:21

you're right deepsnapper. his team sucked last year just like this year, yet he somehow is moving on again ;)

319

Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 20:25

Thanks Frick. It looks like we have a rematch of last year's NFC championship! Either way, the NFC south will be representing once again. :-)

320

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 10:15

Go South!!!

321

Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 20:43

322

slizz
ID: 151136106
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 11:14

Damn...gg. thought with my performance I'd be in the conference championship!

Good luck!

323

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 13:59

I have a feeling I'm going to need punt return TDs from Ginn and Jones to go along with a McCluster kickoff return TD to have a chance this week. It looks like McFadden will still be out, but ds is getting AP back this week. I hope I can make it interesting!

It looks like it does come down to DST afterall. A very good performance by the Falcons DST and while the even better performance of the Seahawks DST is sitting on Deepsnappers bench. ouch.

Pete seems to have Roy's number, unless Crabtree were to go off tonight.

324

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 09:54

The Texans put up a stinker this week. Guess I should've been happy to make it this far. Good luck to the Raiders and Cowboys.

325

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 14:47

campaign to drop DST!!

326

Peter N.
ID: 121151919
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 20:56

campaign to keep D/ST!!!

327

Doug
ID: 251102114
Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 15:09

Looking forward to closing out the first decade of G24 with my first championship (sorry Peter N!)

328

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 00:45

Scoring adjustments made and match-ups set for championship week!

Best of luck to Doug, who is going for his first title, against Peter N, who is going for the first repeat title since I did it in our first two seasons.

League Champions
2002 Indianapolis "Ref"
2003 Indianapolis "Ref"
2004 Pittsburgh "Rockafellerskank"
2005 San Francisco "StL Cards"
2006 Denver "Coldwater Coyotes"
2007 St. Louis "blackjackis21"
2008 Philadelphia "deepsnapper"
2009 New York Jets "Great One"
2010 Dallas Cowboys "Peter N"

Super Bowl:
Oakland Raiders at Dallas Cowboys
3rd Place
Houston Texans at Philadelphia Eagles
5th Place
Minnesota Vikings at San Diego Chargers
7th Place
Chicago Bears at Buffalo Bills
Wanna Be Bowl (9th Place)
Carolina Panthers at New York Giants
Toilet Bowl (17th Place)
Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions

329

Peter N.
ID: 121151919
Mon, Dec 26, 2011, 18:15

I picked a good week to have my 2nd highest scoring total of the season. Tom Brady has been the man for me all year again, but honorable mention this year goes out to kicker David Akers. I can't believe I said it, but Akers is number two in points scored for me.

330

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Dec 26, 2011, 19:08

Good for Akers. Reid made a nasty emotional decision to release him last year...

Nicely done Pete!

331

Nerfherders
ID: 310111515
Tue, Dec 27, 2011, 02:52

I had Brady and Akers on my RIFC AAA team this year, and they were 1st and 3rd in scoring. It got me jack and squat. ;)

332

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 27, 2011, 15:43

Congrats Pete.

Interesting how a bye week D/ST has good value with the right match up.

333

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 09:17

Congrats on the repeat Pete!

I need to go through and make sure everyone has paid up and then will send out an email about payouts.

334

Toral
ID: 010321615
Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 09:57

Go NFC South!

335

beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 12:53

Whoops, forgot to set my lineup. Cost me 3rd place :(

336

Doug
ID: 251102114
Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 13:38

Congrats Peter N! Man, I was really liking my odds headed into this championship, but the cards just didn't fall my way. 2nd out of 24 teams ain't too shabby, but will have to try and pick it up again next season and see if I can't finally win this thing! :) Again, congrats!

337

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, Dec 29, 2011, 19:11

Congratulations Pete. Nice season.

338

StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Mon, Jan 02, 2012, 17:38

Super Bowl:
Champion - Dallas Cowboys
2nd - Oakland Raiders
3rd - Philadelphia Eagles
4th - Houston Texans
5th - San Diego Chargers
6th - Minnesota Vikings at
7th - Chicago Bears at
8th - Buffalo Bills

Wanna Be Bowl Winner
New York Giants

Toilet Bowl Winner
Detroit Lions

339

Peter N.
ID: 350311720
Tue, Jan 17, 2012, 21:31

Thanks for the props everyone. Its hard to believe I managed to pull off another wild playoff run, but thanks go out to Tom Brady. He was the man and my MVP. David Akers gets an honorable mention as well. I lost run DMC early on, but still managed to find a way to make it happen. I'm looking forward to next year. To win in fantasy football, you need plenty of luck and I'm evidence in that fact.

340

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Tue, Jan 17, 2012, 23:43

Hi Peter,

You are welcome. Do you recall that I traded Brady and R White to you for Donovan and DJax in my first year. Wow, that worked out for me... NOT! Although I actually got to the SuperBowl that first year and then the Jints DST went AWOL...

Here is the official 2009 announcement:

Trade Announcement
Dallas Cowboys send Donovan McNabb and Desean Jackson to Arizona Cardinals for Tom Brady and Roddy White.

Judy to confirm.

Regardless, Congrats Pete. It is so much harder to win at football than baseball...

341

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Jan 27, 2012, 11:03

Grats Pete!

343

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 19:23

Been waiting to give you props in person, but great job of beating me in the semi's again. You really should have blown that team up in 2010, lol

cya soon. ds

344

Great One
ID: 2431114
Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 15:06

I know its early but I plan to kick the tires on moving my Johnson (Chris) & Johnson (Andre) duo this offseason... so feel free top open up some offseason trade talk if you have interest.

345

Toral
ID: 35518118
Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 11:27

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346

Toral
ID: 424462011
Wed, Jun 27, 2012, 11:32

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347

Judy
ID: 54203110
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 12:32

Season is now paid for: $159.99

348

Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 12:37

Holy crap, welcome to the 21st century CBS - drag and drop lineups!? you are only 5 years behind lol...

Of course when you click on the video to learn about the improvements the video doesn't work.

349

Slizz
ID: 396121611
Mon, Jul 16, 2012, 12:16

It's almost time!!!!!!!!

350

Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Jul 18, 2012, 11:58

I have been largely out of pocket for awhile and am just seeing the league today for the first time. Looks like they finally put some time into their structure which was so user-UNfriendly. Looks like they may have helped with commish tools as well. I'm going to look at running the draft on CBS as well.

StL Cards, our treasurer and original member has said that he will be unable to play anymore. He will go through and send all monies on file to Judy. This is a huge loss to our league and me, personally as he helped me in so many ways. This league takes a lot of time to run. Scheduling alone is no fun at all. If we can figure out the draft on CBS, that would be a huge step for us.

351

Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, Jul 18, 2012, 15:45

Sorry to see Cards go.

Ref if there is a piece of this I can work on to be of assistance let me know.

352

Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 10:21

Yes GO. I granted you commish access. Will be in touch.

353

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 20:56

Ditto -- available to help...

Thanks for all your help and advice Cards...

354

Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 10:42

Judy you still have commish privs.

355

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 13:22

Sorry to see Cards go. Thanks for all your help with the league.

356

Slizz
ID: 396121611
Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 13:33

Thanks for all of your help these years, cards.

357

mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Jul 22, 2012, 14:33

Many thanks, Cards

358

Slizz
ID: 49611114
Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 14:17

I'd be willing to get rid of Matt Ryan for the right offer.

For whatever reason, I don't like the guy.

359

Judy
ID: 54203110
Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 21:28

Sheesh Slizz,

He's a nice kid. Played QB at the school where I taught. Never had him in class though, but a class kid.

Re football skills, I do agree that the jury is out...

360

Slizz
ID: 396121611
Sat, Aug 04, 2012, 11:18

;)

When are we declaring keepers?

361

Ref
ID: 34731299
Sat, Aug 04, 2012, 18:10

Guys I am not sure I want to play anymore, let alone commish.

362

Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 11:22

Ref you at least need to play even if we need to split the load up and take some stuff off your plate. Maybe we can cut down on some of the historical record keeping?

Whats the most time consuming in the pre-season? Making the schedule? I think we should be able to assist with that.

363

Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, Aug 08, 2012, 11:23

But even if you can't commish anymore, I think we all would want you to at least participate in running a team... maybe less work will rejuvenate your interest and enjoyment instead of it feeling like a job.

364

deepsnapper
Leader
ID: 017103420
Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 12:26

Wholly Hannah! I am very sad to hear Kirk has stopped playing, but he's mentioned it before in the past. Your presence & personality will be missed most buddy.

But Ref? I've known you've said you've were busy last year, but you're synonymous with G24 (and G20 Baseball & Football). I've never imagined you not playing!

Maybe use something like Draftime to run the draft? The issues with that is keepers being taken out of the database and drafted to each team, but that something we control if we start earlier!

365

Toral
ID: 424462011
Sun, Aug 12, 2012, 12:43

Ref, I think you should play, on the assumption that your desire to play will most likely come back. You said you're not sure; don't drop unless and until you are sure.

366

judy
Dude
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 11:55

It looks like we need to help here. Time is going to get short soon.

I should be able to run the draft through draft time.

367

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 12:00

Happy to help out in managing or co-managing a team, if you guys are really stuck. I'll be managing a team in RIFC AAA and in Mario LeMoose's non-keeper When Pigs Fly league and that's it.

368

Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 13:24

Let me know if you need any help, judy.

369

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 19:34

I will try and send out an email to see who is in, but I cannot be the main (wo)man for this.

370

Judy
ID: 54203110
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 19:37

If you are in or not, go here to so indicate -- sorry it is season 11 not 12.

372

Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Aug 13, 2012, 19:40

done.

373

Ref
ID: 34731299
Tue, Aug 14, 2012, 10:53

364: Yeah DS, but there is a lot of stuff going on.

1. My RL is so busy right now. Good things are happening and at times I just won't be available.
2. This game takes a lot of time to run--esp. during setup but also you have to be timely like approving trades in time for the freeze and being able to put in waiver claims and pickups etc.
3. My integrity has been called into question and I don't think anyone should commish a league when that has happened.
4. Apparently I am a slick, underhanded, snake-oil salesman that screws people over--using the commish pulpit to do it--when it comes to trading and it hurts the league. Oh yeah, don't forget I have to approve all trades.
5. I am not listened to. As a commish if you can't lay out and communicate effectively so that everyone understands how things work, you shouldn't commish. Even the new comish in baseball STILL has no concept of how their new rules are going to work and others do not as well. Now it makes sense why so many were quick to poo-poo my issues. You need to have someone who is better in that respect. Don't have to agree with me, but have to have a complete understanding what is going on.
6. TIME. Why would I take so much time away from family and rl when all I am going to catch is flack? Frankly, I don't want or need the drama and to make the time to do all this stuff and then subject myself and others to the kind of garbage some of us have been through certainly isn't time well spent.

These leagues were set up with the concept of HIGH activity. EVERYONE has motivation to make changes and trades for the current or FUTURE seasons. The rules are applied fairly to all members--not jsut the squeaky wheels. People who make trades have often deeply researched their deals, yet the teams who trade for the future are often attacked personally w/o much research at all if they aren't an equal trade using today's numbers. Discussion is fine. But the attacks make people not want to be active or even play at all.

I have communicated with several people about this and I will help get things set up so everyone isn't screwed over because they don't know how to do it, but frankly the enjoyment of these leagues for me has been all but zapped.

374

Promize
ID: 307251516
Wed, Aug 15, 2012, 17:25

Man, I must of missed all that drama... :(

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