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0 Subject: Gurupie 24 2009 Pre-Season 8 Discussion

Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 14:09

2008 Season Discussion

It's that time again. Emails are going out to last year's managers and their intent to return. Already two managers will not be coming back.

We have some business to attend to. The CBS site has NOT yet been renewed and we want to again look at a couple sites before committing. CBS really is very good with all the stuff we do but their prices continue to rise. It would be best to stay at CBS with all our history and we konw what works--but if another site can do everything we need--we have to at least consider it.

Also there have been some rule change suggestions from last season that I have to go find so we can discuss.
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266Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 16:03
With all the nice IDPs now, it's much much harder to figure out keeper list. Been sorting through info and back and forths on offers today and there is so much to think about! ;) Right now I am stuck with how high of a pick is enough and how much do I offer if I want to get a player? And then, is this player I'd get better than a guy I'd have to trade away or dump? We used to have 9 Keeps with 15 total players. Now with 9 Keeps and 20 total players--along with position scarcity--it's really difficult.
267judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 16:36
Gee Ref, I don't have that problem, I only have 9 guys worth keeping and even at that low number it
was a coin toss to keep #9.
This team could take a while to produce unless McNabb and D Jack and the Jints carry me!
268Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 17:04
I'm about to accept two deals and one is so long that it couldn't all fit in the offer box as it is based on incentives. But will be confirmed in here later.
269Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 17:13
Deal one: I get fred jackson and a 7th from doug for my 6th

Deal two: I send out Hixon and josh wilson to slizz. The deal gets me a 4th this year for his 10th.

Also it gets me a 10th next year and it's upgradeable based on these incentives.

If Hixon gets 800 yds rec it becomes an 8th rounder; 1000 yds = 7th; 1100 yds = 6th; 1200 = 5th. Also, so he is not handcuffed on trading his picks, if Hixon hits one of these incentives and Slizz has already traded that pick, he will upgrade it to the next highest pick he has remaining.
270blackjackis21
      ID: 197572416
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 17:57
Trade announcement:

I (St. Louis Rams) give Alex Smith, TE, NE and my 5.09 pick to Doug's Raiders for Ladell Betts, RB, WAS and Doug's 11.23 pick.
271gshade
      ID: 77252417
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 18:25
trade announcement:

Chiefs trade Derrick Mason, WR, BAL and 2009 9th round pick to Ravens for 2009 8th round pick.
272Building 7
      ID: 43735169
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 18:29
Trade confirmed in #271.
273Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 19:23
I'm glad the fury of activity is coming tonight instead of tomorrow morning!

RE: 270 The CBS deal doesn't have the TE coming back
274Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 19:48
re bj21 trade. Doug said that the TE wsan't mentioend so we assumed you wanted to get rid of him to stay under max players so I dropped him for you.
275Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 21:09
RE: 269 I just realized that I typoed the Hixon incentive compensation. It should read:

The pick is upgradeable based on Hixon's performance. If Hixon gets 800 yds rec it becomes an 9th rounder; 900=8th;1000 yds = 7th; 1100 yds = 6th; 1200 = 5th. If Slizz has already traded that pick, he will upgrade it to the next highest pick.
276Toral
      ID: 4155487
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 08:59
Trade:

Philadelphia sends John Abraham DL and its 10th round dc to New Orleans for its 8th round dc.
277deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:13
Trade confirmed in [276]
278Doug
      ID: 3630123
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:49
QB Vince Young
LB Curtis Lofton

Still available for anyone interested in them as keepers.
279Building 7
      ID: 471052128
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:46
Trade announcement:

Baltimore trades Ronald Curry WR and pick 1.05 acquired from PermDude to Atlanta for pick 1.02. My apologies to whoever has to keep up with this stuff.
280Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:54
Trades have been documented in our league rules. After keepers have been finished I'll start working on the draft grid--along with everything else. We have about an hour left and barring trades, four more have to post their keepers. I haven't seen CBS to make sure they have all been checked. Please double-check your keepers on CBS to make sure they match your list in the keeper thread.
281Slizz
      ID: 487271622
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:57
i'm guessing bmd also uses google chrome :)
282Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 11:21
I have to be away for a few. I'll try to get back before the deadline, but if I can't--if you make a trade before the deadline--post it in here as well as CBS before Noon ET and I'll process it.
283deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 11:53
Cards - check your email or CBS.
284Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:41
OK, I'm back. It looks like AF missed the Keeper deadline. Odd since we were talking via email last night and I was razzing him becuse he didn't know how many Keepers he needed.

I will look over his team and pick his. If anyone wants to chime in--it's fine but I don't spend much time on this and when I post it will become final.
285Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:44
AF did checkbox his keepers on CBS so we will go with those. Have to post them.
286deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:07
Ref - you're up on Kaf
287Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:44
thx DS. A million things going on at once it seems. AF's Keepers are posted. A few players posted as dropped were subsequently traded. I don't have editing powers to delete them and I'm not worried about it. All the keepers are posted. Need to match them up with CBS now and run them. Then you can start planning for the draft tomorrow.
288Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 16:32
Keepers have been processed. Everyone had 9 players checked. I skimmed every roster. I didn't see any disagreements between posted and checked. If there is a disagreement and you bring it up before the draft opens, then the rotoguru list takes precedence. Once the draft opens--the CBS roster is set.

Time to research!!! Will attempt to get draft order grid up tonight.
289Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 17:30
DS' article from his title run last year is finished.
290Action Figure
      ID: 527462516
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 17:47
I had my keepers declared before noon. I thought my only obligation was to check the boxes and the rest was automated. Where did I get that idea?

No idea.

291Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 22:04
I have the draft grid done and getting ready to post it here. PLEASE check it over to make sure it's accurate. I noticed that Toral traded his 11th twice so one turned into a 10th. But he shouldn't worry too much as he has FOUR 1st rounders. WOW!
293Perm Dude
      ID: 154552311
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 22:26
8-20 B7's Browns receive PD's Browns 1.05 pick for 1.08 (Gamble)

and

8-24 B7's Browns receive gshade's Chiefs 8th rounder for his 9th (Mason)

These should be B7's Ravens
294Building 7
      ID: 43735169
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 22:34
8-24 B7's Browns receive gshade's Chiefs 8th rounder for his 9th (Mason)

Should read:

8-24 B7's Ravens receive gshade's Chiefs 9th rounder for his 8th (Mason)
295Perm Dude
      ID: 154552311
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 22:40
Deja vu!
296judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 23:17
do we pick here or will there be a new thread?
297deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 23:21
8-25 DS' Eagles receive Toral's Saints 8th rounder for his 10th (Abraham)

It's listed in the trades, but not reflected in the grid.
298Doug
      ID: 3630123
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 00:42
Judy, there will be a separate thread for draft (and for discussion as well I believe)... it's just posted here so we can double-check and find any errors to make sure it's right when the new thread starts. I think. :)
299Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 01:34
RE 293, 294, 297 Fixed! Thank you! That's why I try and get this up early before it is in the official draft thread. I will re-post it here again.
300Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 01:42
  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 Fricks Vikings AFs Falcons AFs Falcons AFs Falcons Refs Colts Refs Colts
2 B7s Ravens Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Promizes Seahawks
3 Torals Saints mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers
4 mjds Chargers PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns
5 AFs Falcons Torals Saints Torals Saints SJs Packers Torals Saints Torals Saints
6 Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars
7 GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs
8 PDs Browns B7s Ravens B7s Ravens B7s Ravens B7s Ravens B7s Ravens
9 BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams Dougs Raiders BJ21s Rams
10 Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers
11 Judys Cardinals Slizzs Bills Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals
12 YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals
13 Torals Saints Torals Saints GOs Jets SJs Packers GOs Jets GOs Jets
14 Torals Saints GOs Jets Slizzs Bills Refs Colts Slizzs Bills Slizzs Bills
15 Promizes Seahawks Fricks Vikings Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks
16 Torals Saints SJs Packers SJs Packers PDs Browns SJs Packers SJs Packers
17 Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys
18 bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans
19 Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos
20 Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants Slizzs Bills Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants
21 CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears
22 AFs Falcons Refs Colts Refs Colts AFs Falcons Refs Colts Dougs Raiders
23 Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders
24 DS Eagles DS Eagles DS Eagles DS Eagles DS Eagles DS Eagles
             
Round 7 Round 8 Round 9 Round 10 Round 11  
1 AFs Falcons AFs Falcons AFs Falcons AFs Falcons AFs Falcons  
2 Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings Fricks Vikings  
3 mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers mjds Chargers  
4 PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns PDs Browns  
5 Torals Saints DS Eagles GOs Jets Slizzs Bills GOs Jets  
6 Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars Yokels Jaguars  
7 GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs B7s Ravens GShades Chiefs GShades Chiefs  
8 B7s Ravens GShades Chiefs B7s Ravens B7s Ravens B7s Ravens  
9 BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams BJ21s Rams  
10 Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers Cards 49ers  
11 Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals Judys Cardinals  
12 YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals YRs Bengals  
13 GOs Jets GOs Jets GOs Jets Slizzs Bills GOs Jets  
14 Slizzs Bills Slizzs Bills Twarpys Giants Slizzs Bills Judys Cardinals  
15 Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks Promizes Seahawks  
16 SJs Packers GOs Jets SJs Packers SJs Packers SJs Packers  
17 Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys Peter Ns Cowboys  
18 bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans bmds Texans  
19 Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos Coyotes Broncos  
20 Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants Twarpys Giants  
21 CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears CCRs Bears  
22 Refs Colts Refs Colts Refs Colts Slizzs Bills Refs Colts  
23 Refs Colts Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders Dougs Raiders BJ21s Rams  
24 DS Eagles DS Eagles DS Eagles Torals Saints DS Eagles  
 
Picks Altered Due to Draft Lottery
Pick Traded
Pick Traded Twice
Traded Draft Picks:
7-23 Toral's Saints receive GO's Jets 1st and 2nd rounder for his 9th and 11th (Wolfe,08 picks/P.Thomas,08 picks)
10-3 Go's Jets receive Slizz's Bills 2nd rounder for his 10th (Mendenhall/Holmes)
10-15 Toral's Saints receive SJ's Packers 1st for his 4th rounder.
10-17 pd's Browns receive SJ's Packers' 4th rounder (DST swap).
10-23 SJ's Packers' receive GO's Jets 4th rounder for his 7th (Pennington-Jones/Henderson-J.Porter)
11-07 Frick's Vikings receive Promize's Seahawks 2nd rounder for his 6th (Maroney/Barber)
11-12 Toral's Saints receive Slizz's Bills 1st rounder for his 11th[auto-upgraded to 10th] (T. Edwards/T.Jackson)
11-26 Slizz's Bills receive Twarpy's Giants 4th rounder for his 9th (IDP Swap)
7-27 Slizz's Bills receive Judy's Cardinals 2nd rounder for her 11th (Hightower/Harrison)
8-14 AF's Falcons receive Ref's Colts 1st and 4th rounders for his 5th and 6th (Schaub)
8-20 B7's Ravens receive PD's Browns 1.05 pick for 1.08 (Gamble)
8-24 Doug's Raiders receive Ref's Colts 6th round pick for his 7th (Jackson)
8-24 Ref's Colts receive Slizz's Bills 4th round pick for his 10th (Hixon,Wilson/ '10 pick)
8-24 gshade's Chiefs receive B7's Ravens 8th rounder for his 9th (Mason)
8-24 Doug's Raiders receive bj21's Rams 5th round pick for his 11th (Betts)
8-25 B7s Ravens receive AF's Falcons 1.02 pick for 1.05 (Curry)
8-25 DS' Eagles receive Toral's Saints 8th rounder for his 10th (Abraham)
301Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 01:46
RE: 296 All draft stuff is done in the FOotball Leagues Forum. So as Doug said in 298, we will have a draft and draft discussion thread there tomorrow.
302judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 08:26
Where on the G24 league page do I look to find manage'rs emails?

I need GO and Slizz for the draft.
303StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 09:00
League Home / Teams and Owners
304judy
      Leader
      ID: 7771722
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 09:13
thanks -- I knew I'd seen it somewhere...
305Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 09:55
The draft starts at noon? I'm open to offers if you really want the top pick in the draft.
306deepsnapper
      Leader
      ID: 017103420
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:12
Ref - UR up on Kaf
307StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 10:46
Here is the league wide email ref sent out:

"Keepers Due by Noon ET on Tues Aug 25. Draft starts approx 6 pm Wed Aug 26th. "
308Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 12:51
Get your research done now so we can fly thorugh this draft! We might even start the draft a little early but will send a league wide email regardless.
309 Promize
      ID: 551462816
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 12:58
Email sent Frick
310StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 13:01
Let's get this show on the road!
311Frick
      ID: 4945458
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 13:45
I replied Promize.

Who will be available to take a queue tomorrow morning? I'm going to be out from 9AM to around noon.
312 Perm Dude
      ID: 154552311
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 13:58
I'll be around.
313Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 14:22
Going through settings right now. Once that is done. I'll get to work on the draft thread. May be able to get started around 3ish ET or so.
314Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 15:13
We will be moving our discussion to the Draft Discussion in the Leagues Forum

Draft Thread in Football Legues Forum
315gshade
      ID: 357551320
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 17:59
DS- please confirm the trade:

gshade's chiefs trade (1.7) Michael Crabtree, WR, OAK to DS's eagles for Larry Johnson, RB, KC
316StLCards
      Dude
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 26, 2009, 18:11
you should probably post that in the draft discussion thread
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