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Subject: 2009 RG Keeper 14: 2009 Regular Season Discussion
Posted by: Mötley Crüe
- Dude [439372011] Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 10:43
Tennessee plays Pittsburgh Thursday night to kick off the season. Players in that game lock 5 minutes prior to game time (8:30 PM ET). The bulk of Week 1 occurs Sunday 13 September. Please review your rosters to make sure you have enough players to fulfill the starting requirements (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 TM DEF, 1 LB, 1 DL, 1 DB, 3 IDP Flex).
The post-draft claim process is set to execute at noon ET on Wednesday 9 September. If you want someone, be sure to set up a claim request by then. The claims will be processed in the reverse order in which we drafted. If anyone wants to trade a starting WR for the #1 pick, I'm all ears. No FA moves are allowed until after the claim process goes through.
I realize Fanball has made some changes and you've been frustrated trying to work around them. Please use me (call or e-mail) for help as needed because I've found I can overcome almost anything with the admin powers the game gives me. Leggestand has them, too, by the way. As long as what you are trying to do with your roster is valid under the rules, we'll push it through if the game gives you problems. The rules in this league are complex, though, so please make sure you give them a once over before pushing ahead with a move you aren't completely sure of. In the case where you and the rules are in disagreement, the rules win.
I'm looking forward to defending my title. Good luck everybody, and I'm glad it's finally time to do this. |
| 1 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 11:20
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As an aside (responding to a question raised by MC in the draft thread): We ended up going to a 24 hours claim process for dropped players in the RIFC. But there was no real sentiment against allowing dropped players to be immediately available. I simply made the call - on the thought that a 24 hour period still allows dropped players in the Wednesday noon claiming to be available for pickup in time for Thursday games.
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| 3 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 12:38
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Taxman, in post [88] of the preseason discussion thread, you posted the following:
Final keepers (previously posted as tentative:
LaDainian Tomlinson (1)
Calvin Johnson (1)
Deangelo Williams (2)
Matt Schaub (6)
Kevin Walter (13)
Sean Jones (24)
That was on Thursday August 20th.
Reviewing your roster from last season, you did not have Josh Wilson. You did have Sean Jones. I made the change at Kafenatid after your team was erroneously assigned Josh Wilson in round 24. Your roster at Fanball matches the team you drafted, including your declared keepers from the post I mentioned above. I think you may have forgotten who your keepers were somewhere along the line.
I haven't made any limitations to your ability to set a lineup. If you are having trouble, it is likely related to the problems we are all experiencing with NFL Commissioner. If you are unable to get a valid lineup to stick at the website, I can certainly enter your starting lineup. Please either e-mail it to me (keeping roster deadlines in mind) or post it here and I will get it in there.
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| 5 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 15:53
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Tried to set things up in IE vice Mozilla, and made no difference at all.
This sucks.
And now the post I just made here has disappearred.
Cliff
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| 6 | leggestand
ID: 18843714
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 15:55
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Color me confused...still having some issue son the site, although I thank whoever (I assume MC) got me my full team. Now, when I set my lineup, it says "too many players on bench" and "lineup is not saved." Just to try the system, I decided to start an extra guy, but now it says "too many players on bench" and "too many players starting." I have the right number of players, so, it's contradicting itself...
Anyone have any advice? MC, It looks like you gave me commish powers, but I can't seem to find away to execute them. Thanks.
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| 7 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 16:09
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I wish the problem was forgetting. No it was (a continuing) failure to look at leggestand's excellent Keeper 14 spreadsheet. Josh Wilson is my keeper in another IDP (POLI Board) keeper league.
I will e-mail you my starting line up. I'm sorry for the imposition.
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| 8 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 16:45
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I keep getting the too many players on bench, lineup not saved error too. If you can help me out:
QB - T Romo
RB - S Slaton
RB - K Smith
WR - A Boldin
WR - D Jackson
WR - D Bowe
TE - C Cooley
PK - N Kaeding
DL - T Cole
LB - B Ruud
LB - P Willis
DB - T Polamalu
DB - K Rhodes
TD - New England
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| 9 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 17:44
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Barring any last minute changes due to injury, this will be my week one line-up for both games just in case the site goobs up:
QB Peyton Manning,IND
RB Clinton Portis,WAS
RB Felix Jones,DAL
WR Lance Moore,NO
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh,SEA
WR Laveranues Coles,CIN
TE Jeremy Shockey,NO
K Lawrence Tynes,NYG
DL Kyle Vanden Bosch,TEN
LB Jerod Mayo,NE
LB David Harris,NYJ
LB D.J. Williams,DEN
LB Will Witherspoon,STL
DB Yeremiah Bell,MIA
TDSP Minnesota Vikings,MIN
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| 10 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 17:49
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Doug, I put your lineup through, but it's still invalid because you need to choose another IDP to start. That could be the source of your errors.
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| 11 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 18:21
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Going to hold off e-mailing or posting wk 1 line up as I would like to make a waiver claim or two...however...Been trying to make waiver claim but Fanball will not allow me to make a claim, or show me any players on waivers. I get the message "Claims are in Progress".
I'll let things sit over night, if I can't get it to work tomorrow I'll post here about what to do.
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| 12 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 19:01
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Color me confused...too. I thought my problems were solved once MC forced Suggs onto my roster. He was inserted into the starting lineup with no problems and I left it alone. Yesterday I logged on and 3/4 of my starters for game 1 were on the bench. I reset my starting lineup with no problems then onto game 2 were the lineup was fine and dandy as I left it.
Today I check again and notice in transactions were Suggs had been dropped twice and readded once via the draft. Checked my lineup for game 1 and as expected, Suggs was on the bench. Inserted him into the starting lineup with no problems and then checked the starting lineup for game 2. Uhhh, Suggs was already starting and I didn't use the copy lineup icon to do it.
I'm befuddled as to all the changes w/o my doings or knowledge.
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| 13 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 20:02
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Challenger, for some reason your roster was showing Suggs twice. Maybe that wouldn't have created problems later on, but I didn't want to wait to find out. I tried cutting one Suggs, and it wouldn't let me. So I cut them both (the system allowed this) and then re-added him once. The result is what you see on your roster right now.
Your lineup looks fine. I copied it to Game 2, so you should be valid for both. However, if you were planning on trying 2 different lineups, you'll need to make a change.
Taxman (& Guru), I am not sure I have the Claim system set up properly. I have the box checked to allow preseason claims, I've set the claim order, and I have the box ticked to run the claims on Wednesday at noon. Not sure what else to do, but I see that there is no way to make a claim on a player right now. I'm going to see if I can figure that out and I'll let you know, but for now I don't have an answer. If we have to we can run claims manually this week. I don't anticipate many.
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| 14 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 20:07
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Nevermind, I just noticed all of the lineups have been cleared... and not by me.
Man, if Fanball messes up our season, I'm not going to be happy.
When I hear something, I'll pass it along.
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| 15 | leggestand
ID: 18843714
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 21:30
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I decided to give it one more try before I signed off for the night... and it went through. I did nothing different, but maybe something was tweaked at the site to fix the issue. I seem to be good now, but I'll check tomorrow to see if it held!
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| 16 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 22:02
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My seems to be OK now too... here's hoping.
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| 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 22:05
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I don't recall that Fanball ever allowed for preseason claims processing. I think we had to do it manually in prior years.
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| 18 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:05
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Just went in and set mine with no issues.
Oh well, lots of practice at entering this lineup.
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| 19 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 07, 2009, 23:31
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Like the others, my line up now set and seemingly saved for both games on wk 1.
No change with waiver claims. Still doesn't allow. I will send you my waiver claim(s) via e-mail tomorroe PM if no change by tomorrow afternoon.
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| 20 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 00:39
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I want to try and claim Derrick Ward. Sadly, Fanball won't let me claim an owned player but with him getting drafted 4 times I really feel left out a bit.
;)
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| 21 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 10:51
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The season has not even started and I already taking trade offers.
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| 22 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 15:11
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(17) I commished a RIFC qualifying league and I believe that is
correct.
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| 23 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 18:31
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MC..I am going to send you the pre season waiver pick up that FanBall refuses to allow.
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| 24 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 18:46
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MC..I am going to send you the pre season waiver pick up that FanBall refuses to allow.
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| 25 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 20:21
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I don't see any improvement to the website where claims are concerned. So anyone who wants to make a claim, send the request to me by noon tomorrow. I'm not too worried about this first round of claims--I mean we picked through the available players pretty thoroughly during the draft.
I'll open free agency at 1 PM ET on Wednesday.
It appears Fanball made the changes to the league setup to allow lineups to go through and they actually appear correctly in the "Weekly Matchup" page. So you all should have control over your lineups now, at least.
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| 26 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Tue, Sep 08, 2009, 23:17
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Hurray - it works!
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| 27 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 06:31
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Taxman, I received your claims. I'll run them today at noon.
Anyone else wanting to claim a player this week, please let me know by noon ET today.
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| 28 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 17:53
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MC, I noticed that you do not have a DL among your players. Is this an inadvertence?
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| 29 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 09, 2009, 21:00
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Nope, I'm just not ready to pick one up yet. Don't worry--I'm way too much of a rules stickler to deliberately go without a DL once lineups are due.
Da Bomb, I hooked up your previous transaction.
In order to allow Free Agency to begin, I had to shut off the claims system, which has gone rogue. I hope Fanball corrects the problem by next week. If not, we're going to have run claims manually. And at that point, I'm wondering why we're paying to use Fanball at all.
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| 30 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 10:51
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Guru, there's a note at Fanball that says that they've corrected the Thursday night scoring. I believe it's right. Let me know if you disagree.
Guys, I've been contacted by Fanball about the Claims process. I asked for help with the league settings earlier in the week, because when I set the game up to use our Wednesday Claim process, for some reason the game responds by locking out FA moves in favor of constant Claims processing. I believe Fanball has still not worked this out for me, and right now the settings are still locking out FA moves. If you need to make a FA move today, post it here or e-mail me. I can make the changes with the Commissioner controls and I will respond to messages that are time-stamped appropriately (i.e., before 5 minutes prior to a team's kick off).
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| 31 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 12:48
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Drop - Chaz Schilens, WR, OAK
Add - Joey Galloway, WR, NE
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| 32 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 14:11
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Challenger, I made the move. You're set.
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| 33 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 17:03
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Thank you
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| 34 | Da Bomb
ID: 88161319
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 20:17
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MC - If it's possible, I'd like to add Charles Woodson and drop Heyward-Bey and to start Woodson in place of Blackmon.
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| 35 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 21:25
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MC, it looks like Fanball is deducting -1 for all missed FG's instead of just for the ones 29 yds or less. Currently showing Crosby -1 for a missed 49 yarder. Saw another kicker with the same error earlier today.
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| 36 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Sep 13, 2009, 22:10
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Da Bomb, I started to make the change and even put Woodson on your team, but I had to reverse it. Your post is a couple of minutes late. I'm sorry, man. I hate to do it, but 5 minutes before game time would have been 20:15.
By the way, Fanball e-mailed me today and told me that they fixed the Claims and Free Agency stuff. You should all be able to make your own moves now, within the parameters of our rules.
Challenger, Post [35]: That's a scoring glitch. The scoring system for our league agrees with you--only Missed FG's between 0-29 yards are set to score -1.
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| 37 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Sep 14, 2009, 13:03
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The scoring for last night's game for the Team Def's are incorrect. Currently showing 10 points for both.
TDSP • Green Bay Packers • GB
GB @ CHI • Final
Int: 0 Sack: 0
Fmbl: 0 Sfty: 0
Blocked FG: 0 Punt: 0
Points Allowed: 0 By Def: 0
Net Yards Allowed: 0
( Pass: 0 Rush: 0 )
Kick Return: 4/124 TD: 0
Punt Return: 1/14 TD: 0
TDSP • Chicago Bears • CHI
GB @ CHI • Final
Int: 0 Sack: 0
Fmbl: 0 Sfty: 0
Blocked FG: 0 Punt: 0
Points Allowed: 0 By Def: 0
Net Yards Allowed: 0
( Pass: 0 Rush: 0 )
Kick Return: 5/124 TD: 0
Punt Return: 2/15 TD: 0
Example - GB had 4 int's and 2 sacks
Bears had 4 sacks
Really only affects scoring for Guru as he started GB and I have the Bears on the bench.
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| 38 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 11:21
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It's very difficult to reconcile Fanball scoring vs the RIFC league at MFL, since Fanball still doesn't have their player lists updated. However, spot checking my teams still identifies some problems.
1. Aaron Rodgers received 2 pts for throwing a 2-pt reception, rather than one point. MC - this is your error. The scoring is coded incorrectly. Rushing and receiving 2-pointers are worth 2, but passing is worth only one.
2. Team defense still has problems. My defense, Green Bay, shows 15 points against, but clearly the safety scored by the Bears should not be counted against GB. Beyond that, there is still another 3 point discrepancy that I can't identify. Having said that, looking at other defenses, I don't see any of them scored correctly yet.
3. AT LB, Laurinitis is scored wrong. The stats show up correctly (10 tackles, 4 assists, 1 fumble rec.), but that should total 13 points, and Fanball shows 12. Presumably the issue is with the fumble recovery, since other LBs seem OK.
You can see the MFL scoring values with this link:
MFL - RIFC player scoring.
It's sortable, so once Fanball provides sortable stats, it should be simple to make direct comparisons by position.
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| 39 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 18:04
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Fanball now has sortable player point tables, so it's easier to compare.
Offensive players look OK with the exception of passing 2-pt conversions, which should be worth only 1 point. As mentioned above, this is a coding error on our part, and should easily be corrected when MC fixes that element of the scoring formula. Aaron Rodgers is the only player impacted, I think.
IDPs are OK with the exception of fumble recoveries and safeties, neither of which seem to be scored. The formulas for these look correct, so this is a Fanball problem.
Team defenses have gotten better, but still do not properly reflect points charged against the defense. It now appears that this item is simply measuring total points against, rather than excluding things like safeties and points scored by the opposing defenses. Again, this appears to be a Fanball problem.
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| 40 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 18:08
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Guru, I fixed the first one. The rest of it Fanball has been working on all day complete with orange cones and hardhats.
They have sure screwed things up with this migration to the new site.
I'll wait until they run this latest batch of re-scoring and then I'll compare to RIFC scoring.
I believe they've fixed most of the problems we were seeing this morning, and it doesn't appear anyone will have the results of their games reversed for now.
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| 41 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 20:49
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I think I made a claim........... I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
Two actually, but I see "claims list 1" and "claims list 3". They
appear clickable to open, but nothing happens when I do.
Somewhat confusing. I used it last year with no problems.
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| 42 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 21:09
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mjd - you need to scroll to the bottom of that page to see the contents of your current claims lists. Not sure who thought up that brilliant page design.
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| 43 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 21:40
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Got it now, thanks.
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| 44 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Sep 15, 2009, 23:28
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Just trying to look through players to see what claims I want to sumbit and the site is slow and plodding. I remember the days where it only took a few minutes to go in and set up claims. The last couple of years at fanball have been terrible. This is my last year playing fantasy football at fanball. I hope the league finds a new site next year so I can continue playing.
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| 45 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 07:32
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Looks like I might have been off a few years about Addai, legge.
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| 46 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 11:04
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This morning I went through the Week 1 scores to ensure their accuracy, and of course there were some errors. The following teams have had scoring adjustments made based on mis-scoring by Fanball:
skeepers received 1 additional point per game for a FR by Osi Umenyiora.
RotoGuru Klingons received 1 additional point per game for a FR by James Laurinitis.
Mötley Crüe received 2 additional points per game for 1 FR each by Stephen Cooper and Kevin Williams.
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| 47 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Sep 16, 2009, 14:39
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Haha, MC! I had no problems dropping Addai this year.
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| 48 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 09:10
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I actually have something good to say about Fanball this morning. I've discovered they have added the ability to assign multiple position eligibility to IDP's. I've set Terrel Suggs to be a DL/LB, and I'm ready to do the same thing for any legitimate hybrid players that managers request. In order to be objective about making that determination, I feel a reasonable policy is to request of you that you send me 2 distinct sources showing the player belongs to more than one category (either e-mail or posting in here is fine). I'm well aware of Suggs' history as a DL/LB, because it was a source of contention during contract negotiations when the Ravens franchised him.
There is no option within the game to create hybrid offensive players, or hybrid offensive/IDP's. The only choices they show are LB, DB, and DL. So for instance I cannot make Mike Vrabel a LB/RB.
Finally, I urge each of you to review stats for your players--your starting lineups at a minimum--and your opponents players each week, because I have found a few more scores that are inaccurate sifting through the free agents. Our rules allow for changes to scoring until 5 minutes prior to kickoff of the next week's games. In the past, Fanball was generally very reliable in this area. I would say they are not any longer. Until (and unless) that changes, vigilance is recommended to ensure you're receiving the points you deserve. I can't check every player, every week. I started out trying to do that last week and it became too much for me to handle. Luckily Guru had found the source of the most severe problems in advance.
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| 49 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Sep 19, 2009, 12:00
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Just a heads up - Fanball still seems to be showing injury designations from last week, rather than from the current week (i.e., yesterday). For example, Bernard Berrian is still listed as questionable, although he does not appear on this week's injury report.
I would expect that to be an automated update, but apparently not yet.
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| 51 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Sep 20, 2009, 18:53
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Man, tough day so far for my fantasy team.
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| 52 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 02:44
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Me pressing "submit" instead of "submit & copy to other game" cost me a win. Fantastic.
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| 53 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 21:08
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If you're referring to my game, that's pretty funny because I did the same thing. If we'd both started the teams we started in game #1, I would have still won - barely. Not sure if that helps but I couldn't help mentioning that.
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| 54 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 10:48
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For starters, Da Bomb's team was one defensive player short. After Da Bomb's comments, it took me about 15 minutes to figure that out.
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| 55 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 22, 2009, 23:00
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I need to claim players..but the FANBALL waiver claim proceedure is stupid, actually beyond stupid. Three hours later, I have 6 selections in 2 rounds. Enough already. I am not going to suffer through trying to make the alternate selections, if my player(s)are gone.
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| 56 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 06:35
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Week 2 scoring adjustment:
Mötley Crüe received 6 additional points per game for 1 Blocked Kick Returned for TD by Antrel Rolle.
This doesn't seem to be something I can code into Fanball, so we need to be on the lookout for it when it happens to an active player.
I know the Claims process is frustrating, but I found it's actually easier than I thought. You can add multiple players at one time and then shuffle the different priority lists after you've added the players by click-and-drag. Not optimal, and probably worse than last year, but it's not as hard as I found it to be the first time I tried it.
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| 57 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 06:38
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I believe this scoring change affects the Waiver Order by pushing me behind leggestand. Other than that, no other outcomes are changed.
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| 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 09:11
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[56] I agree on this year's claim process. Last week, when I first tried it, I thought it was awful. But by being able to enter multiple players at once, it can be more efficient than it was last year. Just takes some getting used to.
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| 59 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Sep 23, 2009, 13:50
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I am looking for a decent 2nd RB to plug in my lineup...Mendenhall, Charles, Norwood aren't cutting it yet. I can deal a top TE in Clark or Gates if anyone is interested.
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| 60 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 09:24
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Leggestand make me offer i have few RBs though i am really looking for WR.
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| 61 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Thu, Sep 24, 2009, 09:31
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Offer sent.
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| 62 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Fri, Sep 25, 2009, 22:52
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I can't seem to pick up a replacement for Urlacher after putting him on IR. Did I misunderstand something in the rules or is this a Fanball issue? I'd like to add Dumervil if I can get another player.
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| 63 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 14:03
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Beezer, I put Dumervil on your team. Not sure if I was able to because of Commish powers, but I don't think so. I tried setting your lineup (just confirmed the one you already have in place by clicking "submit and copy to other game") and there were no errors. Please double check your lineup to make sure nothing changed. You should be all set. Let me know if there's anything else that isn't right.
Please remember to announce IR moves to the league or at least e-mail them to me. Once you place a player on IR, the game is set to allow you to add another player to your team. If anyone else has a problem executing the move, I'd be interested to hear about it.
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| 64 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 22:37
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Thanks MC - hopefully I won't need to remember to post about an IR move the rest of the season...
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| 65 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Mon, Sep 28, 2009, 20:08
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Looking to trade for a QB. Nobody on my team is untouchable.
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| 66 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 19:57
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Fanball is still having issues - it's showing me at the top of the standings!
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| 67 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Sep 30, 2009, 23:39
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post 58...Guru is correct..making multiple selections per round significantly decreases time required to make waiver claims in this years version. Now if it would only tell me which players are going to bomb and which will have career games.
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| 68 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Oct 02, 2009, 18:09
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Guru, I see you're running the post-game scoring adjustments in RIFC. Fanball is offering a similar feature this year. I haven't used it yet, but there have definitely been some players to whom it would make a difference.
For anyone not familiar with the issue, there are official scoring changes made by the NFL each week after all of the games are reviewed. The fantasy scoring websites offer a feature to incorporate all of those changes. I suppose it would desirable from an accuracy standpoint for me to accept these changes before the next week's games commence. I just have to click a button and Fanball will rescore. Anyone have a problem with that? I haven't seen any updates that would change the outcome of any of our fantasy matchups yet. It doesn't mean we won't eventually have one.
I'm not going to rescore Weeks 1 or 2. We're too far past that. But we could start with Week 3.
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| 69 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Oct 02, 2009, 22:19
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We should use the official stats for scoring, so I am all for it.
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| 70 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 08:44
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Agreed on including official scoring changes up to the next week's kickoff.
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| 71 | The Beezer
Dude
ID: 191202817
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 08:51
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Requesting Elvis Dumervil be set up as a DL/LB hybrid.
Denver Broncos web site shows both positions.
ESPN lists him just as a DE.
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| 72 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 12:37
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Beezer, I set you up with Dumervil. I found a few websites where he is listed as both a DL and a LB so he will have eligibility at both slots.
I asked Fanball to recalculate the stats. At this point, I'm not seeing any change, except that they seem to have decremented last week's points from the overall standings, so the standings have been shuffled slightly. Hopefully that rights itself. Ahh, I love learning on the fly.
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| 73 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sat, Oct 03, 2009, 22:48
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Just picked up Bruce Johnson DB NYG.
When I try to bench Adrian Wilson due to his bye week and put Johnson at DB, the dropdown for Johnson is only showing Bench.
Could you help me out MC
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| 74 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 08:46
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GoatLocker, I worked Bruce Johnson into your lineup. There's some kind of glitch at Fanball that would not allow me to set him as a DB. So he has dual eligibility as a DL for now. It's the little things like this that make me realize there's no way we're using Fanball again next season. Anyway, I'll submit a trouble ticket to ask them to kindly make Bruce have DB eligibility (since, you know, it says DB next to his name and all). For this weekend, you're going to get lineup errors if you try to make any changes. Because of this, you'll need to post lineup changes in here, or e-mail them to me and/or leggestand to force through. Just get them in before 5 minutes prior to kickoff.
CLE RB James Davis hit IR yesterday.
Based on that article and the precedent established with Brady Quinn last season (and reflected in posts 175 & 177 here), I'm moving Davis to my IR slot, despite his not being designated IR by Fanball.
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| 75 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 11:14
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Thanks MC, Tried everything I knew and couldn't get it to work.
Cliff
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| 76 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 13:28
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Speakly of I/R, I had the option to put both Willie Parker and Wes Welker on I/R. Welker is active today while Parker is out.
Also, it appears to me that Fanball is not processing the Wednesday claims correctly. I think Fanball is processing all of one team claims at once then moving on to the next team instead of one team claim per round and then moving on to the next team. Go to the "View Transactions" web page and then sort by date, column is sortable, to see if you agree. Take particular note to the seconds on the time.
This week wouldn't have affected me as I rec'd the only player I had a claim in for. I know there is nothing that could be done about previous weeks, I just don't want it to keep happening if my suspicions are correct.
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| 77 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 12:16
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The only way for me to get James Davis onto IR was to modify the game settings to allow Questionable and worse players to be IR'd. That's why Welker and Parker appear eligible for IR. Until Davis gets changed to IR status in the game, players that are Questionable or Doubtful will be listed as eligible for IR. That doesn't change our league rules however, which require a player to be on NFL IR in order to be placed on fantasy IR. I'm going to be enforcing this manually until Davis's status is updated.
As far as claim transactions, I understand what you are seeing, Challenger. The "Date" column shows many transactions happening at the same moment (to 2 decimals of seconds). I believe this is the website processing transactions that it has determined moments before, so that the transactions appear simultaneous. But the claim award process is occurring before that and there's no visibility into it. The game is set to this claims option: "First ranked team gets one pick, second gets one pick, etc.., then, linear. (front to back, repeat)."
Under the "Transactions" pulldown menu, there is a link to "Claims". That link indicates what I believe are the true results of the claim awards, and it syncs up with what I believe the order should be (or should have been that day). That may be something that's only visible to the Commissioner, and if it is, I can post the data here. But I'll start with a link to it: Claims of 30 September 2009.
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| 78 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 13:36
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Thanks MC, for some unknown dumb reason I thought that "claims" link was to view my attempted claims and I can remember what I attempted to claim so why view it? DUH! I would just click the "view transactions" and that was/is at times a illogical mess where the player dropped is nowhere near listed with the player added.
As far as the I/R, i wasn't considering adding either to it as I'm aware of the rules. Besides, Parker goes on I/R and I'll drop kick him so fast....... Parker and Owens are 2 keepers I wished I had went with my original thinking and not kept them, uhhhhh I should say "at this time".
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| 79 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 13:52
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Finally, my team is going to have something in the win column. So glad to be out of the basement! You're on your own now Taxman. :)
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| 80 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 17:56
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There is a problem with the standings at Fanball. When I recalculated the scoring last week to include the player scoring adjustments, the Points For column updated minus one week of scoring (probably the Points Against column as well, but I didn't pay much attention to that). I'm going to manually recalculate the PF before the claims run tomorrow, so the Claim order may change a little bit. Please be aware of this so you don't get a surprise when tomorrow at noon.
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| 81 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 21:36
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The miscalculated Points For on the standings page resulted in leggestand and Doug flip-flopping the 11th and 12th places in the claims order.
Those two have identical 6-2 records; Doug has 1115.9 total points and leggestand is right behind at 1099.6.
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| 82 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 10:46
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Been trying for a half hour to make claims but keep getting an error message.
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| 83 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 11:29
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I just put one in and deleted it again and it worked fine.
You can elect to allow the Commissioner to make claims for you on this page. If you would like, I'll do so, da Bomb. E-mail me if you have time.
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| 84 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 11:38
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I've been getting intermittent errors all morning. Finally worked - but was definitely hit or miss.
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| 85 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 11:48
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Just got it to work. And I don't think that page would work for me MC since I couldn't tell who the available players were.
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| 86 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 10:57
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Odd day. Green Bay was on a bye, which is why I had to start Derek Anderson. I'd have been better served to just leave Aaron Rodgers in there.
But..., the Packer bye is also the only reason I had the Seattle defense starting.
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| 87 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 16:47
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5-5 is the worst start I've had in this keeper league after cruising to two 1st place regular season finishes... maybe it's time to shift a little more importance to this league!
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| 88 | Athletics Guy
ID: 207211917
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 20:01
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5-5 ain't that bad. I've been a serious contender the past 2 seasons and look at me now!
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| 89 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 10:45
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MC, Do you reset the claim order each week? I ask because this is showing as the current claim order:
1. Oaktown Raiders
2. TB
3. GoatLocker's Bums
4. IAC's Keepers
5. Leggestand
6. Snoop Dougg
7. RotoGuru Klingons
8. Beezer's Heinz 57s
9. Tax Returns
10. Da Bomb Squad
11. skeepers
12. Mötley Crüe
13. mjd
14. Chall's Bad Boyz
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| 90 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 16:16
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With my split this past week, I beat the (then) team in first place
and lost to the team in last.
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| 91 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 21:58
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Challenger, in reply to [89], I had set the Claim Order to be manual and then forgot to change back to automatic last week. So it never changed. It's correct now, showing the reverse of the standings. This welfare method will be used after the games of Week 6 as well and then there is no more resetting of the order.
The Claims will go in this order tomorrow:
1. Tax Returns
2. Oaktown Raiders
3. skeepers
4. Da Bomb Squad
5. mjd
6. IAC's Keepers
7. GoatLocker's Bums
8. Chall's Bad Boyz
9. TB
10. Mötley Crüe
11. Beezer's Heinz 57s
12. Snoop Dougg
13. Leggestand
14. RotoGuru Klingons
Incidentally, Fanball finally replied to my request to recalculate the "Points For" and "Points Against" standings. Those should now be much closer to accurate. Heh, my calculations don't match theirs precisely, and I believe that's due to some of the scoring updates I've been incorporating later in the week the last few Fridays. But despite these small differences, I am confident the order shown in the standings is now correct. The issue may arise again towards the end of the season if some of us are very close in points and the PF winds up determining seedings for the Playoffs. For example, Beezer and I officially have PF scores .12 points apart, or about 3 passing yards. I'm keeping a record of the scoring each week in case we need backup to make those calculations for the post-season.
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| 92 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 01:05
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Tried submitting a claim, but it appears to just reload the same page. Emailing MC.
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| 93 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Wed, Oct 14x, 2009, 06:32
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Doug, I can only enter a claim for you if you tick the appropriate box on this page.
That goes for anyone else who may decide to eventually allow leggestand or me make claims for you.
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| 94 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 05:12
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I can't get into the site to see if there is anyone I want to claim. I hate fanball more and more everytime I have to visit the site.
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| 95 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 21:25
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Please place Leon Washington on my IR.
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| 96 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 17:43
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Done, IAC.
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| 97 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Nov 03, 2009, 20:42
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mjd and I have agreed to a trade.
mjd gets QB Joe Flacco BAL
MC gets WR Greg Jennings GNB
Send me an e-mail if you have any problems with the trade. Trades require 3 complaints in 24 hours to go to a league vote.
I also noticed there is an approved trade between Taxman and leggestand. Guys, there's no time stamp on that trade so I have no idea when you intended to make it. Would either of you please respond and let me know that it's still valid so I can post it here for league consideration? Thanks.
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| 98 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Wed, Nov 04, 2009, 06:27
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Nevermind my last comment above. That trade must be from the draft when we were trying to figure out where Josh Wilson and Sean Jones were supposed to go. It's OBE.
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| 99 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Wed, Nov 04, 2009, 23:14
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The trade between me and mjd mentioned in post [97] has been processed without comment from the league.
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| 100 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 13:47
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MC, sent you a PM via the league and the same message via your
work email with an IR question/clarification.
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| 101 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 17:49
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mjd, I replied to your e-mail.
For the rest of the league, I want to address the issue in your e-mail.
The IR slot is available to whichever IR player you choose to put in it, but only one player per fantasy team may be on IR at a time. If you waive an IR player, you then have your IR spot available for use again.
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| 102 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 19:25
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I will be out of pocket this weekend from Saturday morning until Monday afternoon. Leggestand should be able to put out any fires if they arise.
Good luck to everybody and I'll check in when I get back.
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| 103 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 21:44
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Sanders is officially on IR now. I was able to designate him as so,
but Fanball will not let me pick up a replacement player. I get:
Warning
*Transaction will put you over the total player limit (starters +
bench).
So I guess I need MC or Leggstand to do something via commish
controls.
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| 104 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 22:30
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mjd, remember you have to start a DB. With Sanders on IR, the only eligible DB on your team is Revis. So you can ether set him in your lineup or make a transaction to add another DB.
The IR transaction worked. You just need to set a valid lineup now.
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| 105 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Nov 06, 2009, 22:38
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Thanks, got it now.
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| 106 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Nov 10, 2009, 20:53
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The Chicago Bears play the San Francisco 49ers this week on Thursday night, November 12, at 8:20 PM ET. Players in that game will lock at 8:15 ET Thursday.
I believe the schedule calls for Thursday night games from here on out, so you'll want to keep that in mind going forward.
The trade deadline is going to be at noon ET on Wednesday 2 December. This corresponds to the day before the games of Week 13 start, as stipulated by our rules.
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| 107 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 18:10
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I've got this sick feeling that I'm going to cruise into the playoffs and then either lay an egg in the first round, or else run into a buzz saw.
Or both.
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| 108 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Tue, Nov 17, 2009, 18:46
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The points produced separation of this league compared to the RIFC is quite heavy. Very surprising.
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| 109 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 15:34
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Follow up on previous post...
The RIFC's differential from top scoring team to lowest scoring team is only 25% higher for the top, whereas, here Guru is scoring on avg 50% higher per week then the last placed team.
Very odd, in that I woulda thought it being the keeper league that we would end up with even more balanced teams then the redraft leagues.
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| 110 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 16:45
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I disagree. I think keeper leagues make it easier to create a "dynasty", rather than every team starting from scratch in a redraft league. However, this league does hinder the ability to have a dominant team year after year since a kept player costs the team the round he was drafted in.
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| 111 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Wed, Nov 18, 2009, 21:28
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Well, that plus the teams that finish the regular season (or win the SB) well draft towards the end of EVERY round... that does help balance out the playing field IMHO.
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| 112 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 11:48
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MC, I'm getting a lineup error for Bryon Scott. Fanball changed him from a DB to LB this week. I started him as a DB last week. Can you change him to allow both positions? It doesn't matter this week what position I start him at as I have the min at both.
I checked the lineup Friday and this error was not there! This would normally piss me off, but since we now have some flexibility.....YAWN!
Thanks
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| 113 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Sun, Nov 22, 2009, 12:56
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Challenger, I think your lineups are good for today. I don't see anything wrong with them. If something happens we can make a retroactive scoring change.
If you hang onto Scott next week, we can look into making him eligible at both positions. I'll revisit after claims on Wednesday.
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| 114 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 20:49
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Reminder that games start at 12:30 PM ET on Thursday this week. 6 teams play that day: Lions, Packers, Raiders, Cowboys, Giants, and Broncos. Get those lineups set!
Challenger, I made Bryan Scott a LB, but it looks like that change may have removed his DB eligibility. I'll try again later in the week if the dual eligibility doesn't register at the website. Worst case scenario I may have to change his position eligibility each week for the last 6 weeks.
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| 115 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 11:11
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MC, Fanball changed Scott to a LB from DB. I would like the option of DB back.
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| 116 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 22:52
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Have we passed the trade deadline? If not, when is it and does anyone need some RB depth for WR depth?
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| 117 | Doug
ID: 351027518
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 08:39
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I might be game TB.
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| 118 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 08:54
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Noon this Wednesday is the trade deadline--2 December.
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| 119 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 21:47
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This week is the last one to pick up QB/RB/WR/TM DEF. Once week 13 is over (Monday night), no further adds of those positions can be made. Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.
After Monday night, teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
If the Playoffs started today, the seeding would be as follows:
1. RotoGuru
2. Leggestand
3. Snoop Doug
4. MC
5. IAC
6. TB
7. Challenger (3247 Points)
8. Da Bomb (3122 points)
GoatLocker is 9th with 3015 points. That seems safely out of the range to catch Da Bomb or TB (should he lose twice this weekend).
If the season ended today, the Consolation Bracket seeding would be
1. skeepers (boikin)
2. Tax Returns
3. Oaktown Raiders
4. Beezer's Heinz 57's
The winner of the Toilet Bowl gets to pick first in every round of the next draft, so you'll want to position your rosters for a playoff run even if you aren't going for the championship.
Finally, remember that we voted ( in this thread) to disallow keeping players acquired during the playoffs. The time for planning your offseason rosters is now.
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| 120 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:19
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Just checking in as I haven't been as responsive as usual. I just changed jobs, so, it has been hectic in my world. My email address is different than what everyone has (and is attached to this post), so, if you have been emailing me in the past 30 days, I didn't get it.
Looking forward to the playoffs!
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| 121 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 19:30
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The playoff brackets have been set. The matchups are below:
Championship Playoffs
#1 RotoGuru vs. #8 TB
#4 Motley Crue vs. #5 Challenger
#3 Snoop Doug vs. #6 I AM CANADIAN
#2 Leggestand vs. #7 Da Bomb
IAC beat out TB for the 6th spot because he won the H-2-H series during the season.
Da Bomb beat out TB for the 7th spot by 4.8 fantasy points.
Consolation Bracket
#1 skeepers vs. #4 Oaktown Raiders
#2 Tax Returns vs. #3 mjd
Please remember the following post-season rules:
1. Teams in the Consolation bracket MAY NOT add players for the duration of the playoffs.
2. Teams eliminated from the Championship bracket may no longer add players for the duration of the playoffs.
3. Teams still alive in the Championship bracket may not add players at the following positions: QB, RB, WR, Team defense. Players at those positions may be dropped, but then are lost for the duration.
4. Only players on your roster as of today (December 8) are eligible to be kept for 2010.
5. The claim priorities have been re-set to correspond with the seedings in the Championship Bracket (i.e., RotoGuru, leggestand, etc).
Pittsburgh plays Cleveland Thursday night this week, so get those lineups in. Good luck everybody (and especially TB!).
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| 122 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 09:00
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and especially TB!
Yea, really. Guru's team has been completely dominant this season and it's going to take a big game for someone to take him down.
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| 123 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 22:18
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I updated the scoring for the Saints TM DEF for Week 13. They were credited with an extra Fumble Recovery and Defensive TD for the Meachem play. This brought the score for New Orleans' D from 14 to 6 and lost the owner (me) 8 points in each matchup. No outcomes were affected and the playoff seedings remained the same as well.
On the other hand, Meachem individually was not credited for the TD he scored on that play. I adjusted GoatLocker's score in both of his games by 6 points. This also changed nothing in terms of weekly outcomes or playoffs.
mjd pointed something out to me last week that bears discussion in here. There is not much incentive for the 9 and 10 teams to win the last week or two of the season if they are way behind on points and in the standings. If they lose, they could possibly wind up in the Toilet Bowl. That was the case this season--for the first time in our three years, I believe--and we began considering ways to incentivize those teams to win all the way until the end. I spoke to leggestand about it as well. Two ideas have been suggested.
1. Amending the rules so that the teams finishing 11-14 can keep no more than 5 players the following season. I'm not sure if this is really a penalty. After all, teams finishing this low might be better served keeping fewer players.
2. Reformatting the Consolation Bracket so that the bottom 6 teams are placed in it, but without byes. Each team would play each week, and whoever had the best record at the end--with PF as the tiebreaker--would win the Consolation Bracket and pick first in the following year's draft. Other variations on this would probably make it simpler. I was thinking maybe it would be better to just give it to whoever scores highest the last 3 weeks.
I would be interested to hear opinions, including from those who might think there's nothing wrong with the way we do it now.
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| 124 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 00:03
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I'm for anything that in every situation imaginable encourages
and rewards winning any given game. That's what I like about
the Toilet Bowl. Winning it is rewarded. No automatic first pick
for finishing last. Though I've not been around long enough to
see how our current system affects overall league parity.
Plus I hate that while every other team is playing for something
this week, the season is over for 2 teams.
Not crazy about option #1-don't like a penalty for lower ranked
teams, as it may affect league parity.
I like option #2, or since we basically use RIFC rules with keepers
and a few other twists, do what they do--3 winners plus the
highest scoring loser advance to round 2 of the Toilet Bowl.
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| 125 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 19:41
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I agree, I dislike that 2 teams season is over, but we have to remember why the toilet bowl was established in the first place - To determine the 1st selection, and each round thereafter. This was put forth to prevent sandbagging for the 1st pick by finishing in last place.
I believe we all felt that including the 9th & 10th place teams would create an unfair advantage for these teams and thus would become heavy favorites to win the consolation bowl. In turn, we chose to keep it with just the 4 bottom teams.
Checking the history of the Toilet Bowl, the 1st year leggestand won and he finished 2nd to last in the standings. Last year Beezer won and he finished 3rd to last. However, both years the Toilet Bowl winner was also the top regular season scoring team in the "Points For" category of the 4 participating teams.
When I started this post, I was in favor so some format of suggestion #2. After my analysis, at this time, I'm am going to say leave it "as is" unless I hear of some better reasoning.
Good Luck to all in the playoffs - except my opponents. :)
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| 127 | Doug
ID: 351027518
Fri, Dec 11, 2009, 20:37
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Well, you could use byes for the bottom 2 teams in the standings, and then let 9-12 place fight it out... but that incentivizes the 11-12 place teams to try and come in 13-14th instead.
I think it's fine as is. Generally the teams in 9-10th place still have a shot at that final playoff slot until the last week or two of the season, especially with 2 games per week... how big of a problem is this really?
We could make the cutoff for Toilet Bowl the bottom 4 teams after week 11... with the caveat if one of those teams somehow manages makes the playoffs then the "next worst" eligible team (as of the cutoff date) takes their place in the Toilet Bowl. That might avoid late-season shenanigans... I can't really see someone in 9th/10th spot after week 9 thinking "man, I should give up and lose in weeks 10 and 11 so that I can play in the Toilet Bowl!"... they're only 1-2 spots out from the playoffs with 4 weeks (8 games) to go... if they're already giving up at that stage just for a shot at a better draft pick, they don't belong in our league, lol.
It's not a big deal to me that the season is over for 2 teams... everyone's season ends at some point... in most leagues there's not even a playoff option at all for the guys at the bottom. Or just let 9 and 10 play each other... high score between them after 3 weeks gets the #5 draft slot, the other takes #6. *shrug*
Those two ideas don't work together though, because the teams in 9th/10th at the cutoff date might finish 9th/11th or something... meaning the guy in 11th has the #4 slot, not #5... and the #6 slot (9th place) shouldn't leapfrog ahead of the guy who wound up in 10th (and is now in the Toilet Bowl). Confusing, lol.
I think the cutoff thing after week 11 might be the way to go... 9th/10th just get an early start on preseason (or focusing more on their other leagues).
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| 128 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 11:49
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MC. I put EJ Henderson on IR and now I am trying to pick up LB Anthony Spencer but Fanball will not allow me, giving me the error:
*Transaction will put you over the total player limit (starters + bench).
*You must go to Transactions Add/Drop to remove players from your team.
I show 15 starters, 8 bench, & 1 on I/R.
I want to start Spencer in place of CB Danieal Manning. Please make this change for me also.
Thanks!
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| 129 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 11:54
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Also an FYI - No matter what I do Byron Scott will only show as a DB in scoring. I've started him as a LB each of the last 3 weeks and this week also.
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| 130 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Dec 13, 2009, 12:36
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Re #128 - Never mind, I got it fixed. It was the lineup for the 2nd game holding it up the transaction. Henderson not one I/R there.
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| 131 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 01:36
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Ouch on Kevin Smith... looks like I'll be riding Shonn Greene and Kevin Faulk to the championship! :)
Also, looks like up to 2 of the 4 playoff games are too close to call heading into Monday night... Legge should be fine for overtaking Da Bomb Squad with 3 players going and only 8 points back.
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| 132 | Athletics Guy
ID: 151132141
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 02:32
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Aaaah...my team finally woke up. So this is what it feels like to be Guru. For a week anyway...
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| 133 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Mon, Dec 14, 2009, 08:15
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This could be the week that official scoring revisions push someone into the next round. There are a couple of pretty close games, I agree.
Doug, Kevin Faulk just had his best fantasy game of the year. Maybe it's the start of a trend. I just remember getting tired of waiting for him to score in double digits.
Nice score, AG. 1 win away from the #1 pick.
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| 134 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 05:49
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Congrats Doug on advancing! Desean won me my game in the RIFC, but pretty much killed me in this matchup.
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| 135 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 08:51
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Thx IAC... it'll take a pretty improbable run for me to continue, but anything's possible!
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| 136 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 09:05
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Legge should be fine for overtaking Da Bomb Squad with 3 players going and only 8 points back.
I almost didn't make it. Warner and Fitz combined to give me 3.5 points. Who'd of thought that Dansby would of carried me through the game? I'm crossing my fingers for no scoring revisions.
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| 137 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 13:42
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Congrats to MC. I was really wanting to meet Guru in the playoffs so I can hang a 3rd loss on him from me this season.
Good Luck to all
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| 138 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 14:50
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Happy to survive the opener, especially with A. Rodgers scoring only 5.60. His previous low game was in week #1 with 13.06, and since then, had never posted less than 18.74. Hopefully, he got that out of his system!
This week will be like old times in the RIFC, when MC and I seemed to often duke it out in the playoffs.
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| 139 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Dec 15, 2009, 20:24
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Yeah, pretty exciting weekend. Good game, Challenger. I was cursing the name Fred Davis all day Sunday.
I'm just thankful I didn't have to play Athletics Guy.
Guru, I want Rodgers to have a great game--throwing for several hundred yards and loads of TD's to Greg Jennings.
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| 140 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 22:42
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I ran scoring adjustments this evening and there was a big change: leggestand went from being about a 2-point winner over da Bomb to losing by .28 points. I spoke to legge earlier about this and he agreed that the only thing to do is the right thing: da Bomb made the semifinals fair and square and I've swapped him into the matchup with Doug in leggestand's place.
This was my fault for not running scoring updates earlier. I checked them Wednesday at one point and didn't see any of importance. However, there were quite a few that showed up after I first checked (Guru gained a few points from Aaron Rogers as well). Next season, I'm going to make a habit of running the changes each week at the same time so there are no surprises on Saturday night.
Speaking of Saturday, with parts of 2 games in the books already, we have no real option but to allow player in da Bomb's starting lineup to count towards his score this week. I've informed da Bomb that I believe it's fair for him to receive points for Brackett and Roy Williams because his lineup contained them last week as well, displaying his intent to start them recently. He was not afforded an opportunity to make transactions, but I believe the impact of that was minimal since there were no transactions made this week and he still has tonight and tomorrow morning to do so.
If anyone has any objections to all of this, please feel free to e-mail me with comments or suggestions. I apologize for missing this until now, and I will work hard to get things right more quickly next time.
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| 141 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Dec 19, 2009, 22:49
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Wow, that is some news.
I feel for leggestand in this, probably the worst way to lose. I did set a provisional lineup just in case I was playing for 5th place or something and it is good to go.
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| 142 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:11
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Hmmm, I thought scoring adjustments were supposed to be done before the 1st game of the week. Isn't that what we decided last year?
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| 143 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:20
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Yeah, we talked about that. In the past, scoring adjustments were made manually by me when and if someone submitted a requested change. Now, Fanball has them all loaded in via some kind of collection tool that reflects all of the week's official scoring changes. Because of that, I've been running the scoring changes later in the week during the season because they aren't always loaded by Thursday (for instance). This week I simply forgot to do it until last night. But leggestand and I agreed that in this case, my forgetting was not a good reason to not do it at all. The Thursday games make this more challenging, but I believe most of us would like to get the scoring right.
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| 144 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:50
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Post #158 after a league vote, MC this is your comments:
With a final tally of 11 for and 3 "not for" in varying manners, the retroactive scoring rule is passed as follows: Retroactive scoring changes will be allowed if submitted to the Commissioner until 5 minutes before the kickoff of the 1st game of the following NFL week.
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=footst&thread=880&last=1230935416
Plus look at Beezers Post #70 in this thread.
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| 145 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 13:59
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Official scoring changes are available prior to the start of the Thursday game, so I think MC has the proper interpretation. I wasn't aware that Fanball now provided that capability, nor was I aware that it was routinely being applied.
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| 146 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 14:01
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...although I suppose a direct interpretation of the item in post 144 puts the onus on the manager to make that challenge.
MC - this is why they pay you the big bucks to be the Commish!
Regardless, we should probably clarify this before next season.
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| 147 | leggestand
ID: 5411462013
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 14:47
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As much as I would like to take the win based on the strict intrepetation of the rules laid out by Challenger, I can't accept moving on in the playoffs when I should of lost. We all appreciate MC's hard work, and we should be doing score checking on our own for our teams, but I imagine very few of us actually do it on a weekly basis (I seldom check...only if I lose by less than 3 points). I agree that we need to clarify this rule before next season, and since we will likely be changing sites, I doubt MC will have the adjustments tool that Fanball provides, so, we'll need a clear cut rule.
It does stink to be out, but Da Bomb deservedly won, even though my team is exploding this week!
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| 148 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 15:13
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Actually, if we do move to myfantasyleague.com, as I will recommend, they not only provide the ability to process all retroactive scoring corrections, but you can even specify to make it automatic - without the Commissioner needing to push a button each week.
For the regular season, that's probably a good idea.
For the post season, it does create complications when our rules prohibit teams out of the playoffs from making any roster add/drop moves.
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| 149 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Sun, Dec 20, 2009, 16:31
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I do like MFL in the RIFC league that I'm in this year and would also
recommend it.
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| 150 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 10:21
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Remember the game a couple years ago when Osi Umenyiora had 6 sacks? That's about what I need from Justin Tuck tonight.
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| 151 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Mon, Dec 21, 2009, 11:06
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I watched Minnesota-Carolina last night with real anticipation. I was expecting some big points out of Harvin and hoping Steve Smith would contribute 6-10 points. I eventually got so annoyed with the punting I had to shut it off. I monitored the score pretty regularly after that and was stoked to see Steve Smith go off. He nearly had a second long TD. Until the 4th quarter, you probably had things in hand, Guru.
I notice that Doug is being credited for a 5 yard TD rush for Boldin (in addition to his 5 yard TD reception). That's not right. It will probably sort itself out, but just a head's up. Santana Moss needs to play like Jerome Harrison vs. the Chiefs for da Bomb to have much chance. Pretty amazing score for Doug given that he totaled 4 points from his RB's.
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| 152 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Tue, Dec 22, 2009, 06:55
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Good luck in the final, Doug. For anyone who hadn't noticed, Doug hasn't lost a game since Week 10. He was 11-9 at that point, and has now reeled off 8 straight victories to make an emphatic return to RG Keeper 14 playoff prominence.
Guru, you laid a couple of severe beatings on me this year (195-118 and 171-135), so I feel a little better about those today. Your team was a scoring machine this year. You had way more points than anyone else. I know that's probably not much consolation, but you deserve props for playing so well in this league in 2009.
Congratulations to our newest manager, mjd, for his thorough Toilet Bowl win. Those rookie RB's are just calling your name for the 2010 draft.
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| 153 | Doug
ID: 3630123
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 01:38
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GL to you too... I look at my current roster and kinda go "huh?" but here I am nonetheless... RBs traditionally being such a major part of scoring I don't know how I'm surviving... but despite 8 in a row I still consider you the very heavy favorite, and it will be more of a bewildered "ha, no way!" victory than a satisfying "yes, domination!" victory if I somehow manage to pull off one more win this year. :)
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| 154 | Challenger
Sustainer
ID: 481126818
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 14:48
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Congrats MC! Enjoy your game tonight!
Congrats mjd on your win to 1st draft choice.
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| 155 | mjd
Leader
ID: 501381415
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 17:39
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Congrats MC. Thanks to those who helped me understand all the
nuances of this league in my rookie season. I really enjoyed the
format of this league and the great competition.
Time for the rebuilding process to begin.
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| 156 | Doug
ID: 351027518
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 17:59
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Way to go MC... I didn't really belong in the championship but tried to make a decent show of it. :)
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| 157 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 3626821
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 21:13
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Congrats to MC! The defending champ successfully defended his title. That's pretty hard to do in this format.
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| 158 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 09:11
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Congrats, MC. Winning this league two years in a row is very tough especially considering that you draft from the back every round. As usual, I really enjoyed the season and I think we have gotten a great group of guys together to create a competitive league.
I will be working on updating the final rosters spreadsheet in the next few weeks and I'll send it to the group for review.
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| 159 | Mötley Crüe
ID: 45927710
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 11:25
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Thanks, everyone. I noted luck saved me from playing the likes of legge, Challenger, and Guru this week when they all had more fantasy points than I did.
Leegestand, don't forget the new rules that players picked up or waived during the fantasy playoffs are not eligible to be kept. That would be anyone dropped or added after December 9th. I believe that's a good number of players.
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| 160 | Athletics Guy
ID: 151132141
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 18:26
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Congrats MC! And thank you for all you've done to make it another enjoyable season for this league.
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| 161 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Mar 21, 2010, 11:44
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I've just sent everyone an e-mail with the final league rosters attached. You'll want to study the spreadsheet so you can work on keeper strategy and working trades, which are allowed all offseason in this league. Please let me know if you don't receive a copy of this e-mail. Also, I'd request you provide a good e-mail address if you don't receive it.
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| 162 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Mar 21, 2010, 17:29
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Just to be clear, the spreadsheet just sent out reflects the pick for 2009. Any player who was a 2009 keeper will have his pick cut in half for 2010.
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| 163 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Sun, Mar 21, 2010, 22:33
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Guru, you are correct. If the player was kept for the 2009 draft, his keeper round for the coming draft is halved (rounded down for fractions). Players drafted in 2009 that were not keepers may be kept going into the 2010 draft in the same round they were chosen in the 2009 draft.
Up to 6 players may be kept by each manager, as long as 1 is an IDP. If none are IDP's, then only 5 may be kept. Team defenses may be kept but I don't think they meet the definition of IDP so a TM DEF will not count as the 6th keeper. Finally, you are not required to keep any number of players. You may keep less than 5 if you choose.
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| 164 | TB
ID: 5520301
Wed, Jun 30, 2010, 02:20
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Can we get an updated keeper sheet and does anybody want a bunch of my crappy players for one of their great players? :)
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| 165 | Mötley Crüe
Dude
ID: 439372011
Fri, Jul 02, 2010, 17:34
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Tom, I sent the spreadsheet out to your GMail address. If you didn't get it, give me another adress to try.
I actually sent the most current league spreadsheet out in March to the whole league. I had just bought a new computer and didn't get all of the old e-mail addresses so I had to pull them from our league website. That means some of you probably never saw the e-mail. Hopefully those people see this post. Let me know if you need the rosters spreadsheet.
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| 166 | The Beezer
ID: 0944216
Sat, Jul 17, 2010, 15:38
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Please send me a copy of the spreadsheet. Thanks.
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| 167 | Taxman
ID: 53382122
Sun, Jul 18, 2010, 21:41
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Spread sheet for me also please.
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| 168 | leggestand
ID: 451119710
Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 15:12
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Beezer and Taxman - I just sent the spreadsheet to you with the 2009 keepers moved to their 2010 draft spots. I will send it to MC as well so he can give it a last look to ensure accuracy.
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