Re-invite emails have started to go out to most of the league.
We really need to discuss Guru's proposal for contraction asap. Will find a link for it. There may be other proposals as well.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 16:28
Frick, draft clock will start Sunday at 3:00 ET--though we'll likely open the draft room before then untimed.
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rockafellerskank Dude
ID: 27652109 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 16:39
Is the prize entry $15 again this year? I assume we send to guru? is Pay Pal Ok?
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:10
Just saw that Jason Williams has been moved up into the top 100 players as the starting PG in Miami. He's even rated above Troy Murphy on the site I just saw. He can be had for cheap.
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:16
He's nothing compared to Larry Hughes and Chris Wilcox. Still available, but going fast! lol
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RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:41
I tried to move Wilcox for ya Species. Damn that Peja!
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beastiemiked
ID: 65112917 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:51
Trade: bmd sends Rajon Rondo and his 4.20 to GO for his 2.06.
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Great One
ID: 201155199 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 18:53
Confirmed.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:13
The site was supposed to attach the file of the plaque. Oh well.
Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:33
Hmmmmm........"bmd sends Rajon Rondo and his 4.20 to GO for his 2.06"
Ricky Davis can be had for similar terms.
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Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:34
Ref taunting us with the plaque in our mailboxes. ;)
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RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 19:37
GO's butt hurts right now...
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beastiemiked
ID: 65112917 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 21:34
GO's butt hurts right now...
Hmm, it's funny that you say this after your trade.
Find me a list that has Rondo out of the top 100 fantasy players. Add in his longterm value and it was a good deal for GO.
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RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 22:28
Funston is an idiot.
Rondo is being hyped up due to the Three Amigos. He has absolutely no shooting skills. You get dimes and maybe decent steals. Minimal points, no 3s, poor shooting percentage, poor three point shooting percentage, no rebounds and no blocks. So, thats worth nearly a 3 round draft drop? Even you can't honestly say that.
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beastiemiked
ID: 65112917 Wed, Oct 17, 2007, 23:06
He averaged 5 assists per game over the last 2 months dishing to bums. If he can log 30+ minutes a game he's going to average 7+ assists and 2+ steals. His rebounding will be above average for a guard and I'd be shocked if his FG% didn't improve. He's the high risk/reward type of player that teams rebuilding should be looking to acquire.
Also, Rondo > Murphy.
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coldwater coyotes
ID: 544382119 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 04:25
Can somebody explain the Murphy for Collins trade.
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rockafellerskank Dude
ID: 27652109 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 09:54
see post #236. It was basically an unwanted keeper for an upgrade in draft position.
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:09
So, thats worth nearly a 3 round draft drop? Yeah, I'd say thats the consensus... starting PG on a major playoff contender? And 3 rounds in a league with 6 keepers and 20 teams? thats like going from the 14th to the 18th in a normal draft... seems like a pretty good deal to me.
I'm not overly concerned with his FG% since he won't be shooting a high volume with Ray, Pierce and KG handling that department. And having Amare/Gasol/LaMarcus fixes the FG% problem of anyone else on my squad.
And with Gilbert as well - you can put me down for a solid 20 points in the steals category as well (assuming health).
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 10:40
Rotowire rankings out (better than Funston, right?)
Rondo? #74
Ahead of such great keepers as - Bargnani, Battier, Harrington, Marbury, Bogut David Lee, Rudy Gay, Ricky Davis, Troy Murphy #115), Bynum...
Looks like I took a HUGE gamble to get a player considered thought so highly of and only had to move down from pick #146 to #200 to do so. The players gotten in those spots are going to be drastically different I guess. What, instead of Tyronn Lue I'll get Speedy Claxton instead? Oh well.
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barilko6
ID: 44829307 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 11:00
TRADE
Barilko trades:
Sarunas Jasikwhatever Pick 2.13 (Previously acquired from RSF
Mike D trades:
Ricky Davis Pick 4.17
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Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 11:02
Confirming for Mike D... I think his middle names Lucy cause they all call him loose.
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barilko6
ID: 44829307 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 11:05
At this point, I would be willing to package any 2 of my keepers for one better keeper and/or picks pacakge. Anyone I get back has to be younger and better than the guys I am sending out.
Josh Howard and Kevin Martin for....
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:30
Twarpy/Species trade is:
Hughes and Species' 3.19 for
Twarpy's 2.14
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Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:43
barilko - check your email for a last minute idea
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Twarpy
ID: 53443916 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:53
Still looking for a player for my 6th keeper that I would be willing to trade 3.19 for. Let me know real quick, been sending out some offers.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 13:59
Sorry, not a lot of time to get online last night or today.
It appears everyone has posted their keepers in the thread. Don't forget to mark your keepers on nba. Thanks for everyone's help.
As far as the debate for trade values, well everyone values players differently. That's what makes this game so much fun. Personally, I like Murphy better than Rondo, but Rondo's stock is soaring because of his teammates around him. Who knows, but even though he couldn't shoot or do much else, those assists and steals could be huge. This is also his 2nd year and maybe he worked on his shot over the summer, etc. Murphy didn't do as well under Carlisle's use the shot clock technique but has flourished thus far, albeit preseason, under O'Brien. His C eligibility and his 3s and a few assists to go along with his rebounds help. His boards fluctuate from game to game though as he wanders outside the arc, obviously. It all comes down to pesonal preference. GO, like me, likes to take chances. When bmd AIMed me about the deal, I was surprised to, but like he said, Rondo is even ranked above Murphy in some of the projections. Also it has a lot to do with GO s pos/cat needs. It seems like a win/win. PP considered Rondo and Davis and some others but Murphy was better for his team apparently. There have been a couple other deals for players that had me scratching my head but after lookign at it, the Rondo deal wasn't one of them.
[244] Guru will have his treasury statement and prize pool options posted soon.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:02
Keepers are now final. will double check nba.com for compliance from all teams before hitting the process keepers button.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:27
Keepers have been processed. Appears this year that keepers are marked in rounds 7-12 and we will be picking in rounds 1-6.
NBA won't even allow anyone to pick before tomorrow afternoon at 2:30. I'll try and have a draft thread up sometime after that. You may NOT select anyone until the draft thread is up. Clock won't start until Sunday at 3:00 pm ET.
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blackjackis21 Dude
ID: 034837521 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:31
Oops - are we too late? I wasn't paying any attention to the deadline.
Fine by me if it's killed, but I just agreed to a Twarpy proposal: Drew Gooden plus my 5.18 for B. Bowen and Twarpy's 4.14.
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Frick Donor
ID: 3410101718 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:31
Ruben Boumtje Boumtje will be selected as close to 2:30PM tomorrow as possible!
Come on Ref, you're holding me back here!
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RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:33
Who the heck is twarpy dropping for Gooden? DisenFranchied?
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:33
Yeah too late bj21, neither of those players are owned anymore. Obvioulsy, the trade is denied.
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blackjackis21 Dude
ID: 034837521 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:34
works for me.
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Twarpy
ID: 53443916 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:34
Yeah was hoping we couldve gotten it in before the deadline, but guess its another year of Franchise for me (wahoo!).
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:42
Trading is still open but you only have 6 players to trade now obviously. You can now go over 6 players again but your draft is over once you hit 12 and you can't drop anyone until after waivers have been turned on.
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Perm Dude
ID: 295187 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:44
Ref, the My Team page is still showing my non-keepers. Should I drop them?
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 15:54
mine is too. If you go to trade room, it only shows the 6.
Sometimes the site is so great and other times it pisses me off like no other. There are so many bugs it seems. I know it's free and it has more bells and whistles than Yahoo!, but how many issues have we had. Well more than any of you even know. I have no idea why the non-keepers are still showing up. I have no idea why bj and twarpy's trade went through even though the players aren't even on the teams anymore. I have no idea why it is still showing protest when I changed that setting. I have no idea why we all get multiple emails via nba league email. I have no idea why we cna't seem to replace managers on our own. Makes me really apprciate CBS.
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Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Oct 18, 2007, 16:22
[253] I think the tatoo in the wacko jacko hread is worse--or at least more, well, wacky...