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Subject: Gurupie 20 2008 Season 7 Preseason Discussion
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Tue, Sep 30, 2008, 18:12
Previous Thread
We should probably move the talk to this thread.
NBA's site doens't have our history up yet so we can't look at anyhitng. I've always captured all the data but with NBA they had it saved so well last year that I didn't bother. As far as activity goes, I seem to remember three managers who had less GPs than desirable. Pretty sure everyone was adequtely active though.
BJ21 has a new job and informed me that he wouldn't have enough time to be active for Hoops. So we're going to need a replacement for him.
Thus far the only proposal our for this year has to do with the game site we play on. As mentioned in the previous thread, G24 had voted to do away with the plaque. It is really difficult to get it engraved and send it to the next person in a timely manner. There is a site where we can send out a customized yearly trophy that you can keep. That would be a way to keep a tradition going with less hassle. |
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| 170 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 01:50
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Keeper Thread is up.
Trying to figure out the draft situation on ESPN. Looks like for offline drafts they have a system set up where we can enter those results but we must fill the entire lineup. Also see where we can edit waivers, but not start waivers manually. My guess is they would start once we entered offline results. But we don't want to do that because we want to show FAs (draft eligible players) while we draft. Not sure if a commish or each manager would need to add players. The question has been sent to ESPN via BH. My guess is that it won't matter but then undrafted players may not be automatically on waivers like we're used to. Hope that's not the case but it won't kill us either.
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| 171 | Slizz
ID: 22813187
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 11:04
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Thanks to all who got back to me about potentially moving up. I have 5 solid keepers and a bunch of fringe guys (i.e. the Jordan Farmar(s) of the world). If anybody has some quality guys who they cant afford to keep and would like to make a deal to move up in the draft, give me a shout!
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| 172 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 12:10
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Getting some answers from ESPN...
*position eligibility is "by ESPN discretion"
*You can't add players during the draft. Still trying to figure out the best way to do things. They will have a slow-draft on ESPN next season.
more to come...
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| 173 | Great One
ID: 389281515
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 13:00
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Yeah, like when Tim Duncan starts the ASG as a "Center" and he didn't play there all year... thats a bit ambiguous.
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| 174 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 13:09
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I am looking to move my very high 3rd round pick for a 6th keeper. Send me the list of guys you would part with for the 6th pick in the 3rd round.
I could be tempted to move the 16th pick in the 2nd round for a good keeper, or the 6th pick in the 2nd round for a very nice keeper, but most likely will be holding onto the higher second round pick.
Send me your available guys!
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| 175 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 16:44
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RFS, check your email, sent you a reply
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| 176 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:04
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TRADE
Barilko Gives:
Pick # 2 and Pick # 26 (Second Round)
RFS Gives:
Pick # 3 and Pick # 21 (Second Round)
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| 177 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:06
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#176 confirmed
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| 178 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:17
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Everyone on the Noodlers is up for trade.
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| 179 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:18
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Who are the noodlers?? I could use some boards.
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| 182 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 17:28
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Re: 176
I misread that trade at first.
To clarify it is 1.02 and 2.06
For
1.03 and 2.01
So rfs jsut drops back 5 spots to get one of the dynamic 2? Pretty damn good deal for him!
Trade approved.
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| 183 | barilko6
ID: 48563014
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 18:07
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Could I have gotten more? Maybe, but things are moving and shaking, and I might be close to announcing a second follow up trade...
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| 184 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 16, 2008, 20:13
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The likely 3rd pick isn't bad either B6. His role is more nebulous though.
I'm a little surprised I haven't moved ANY of my guys but I guess people are testing the waters for value right now as the actual offers have been mcuh lower than anticipated. Other players have drawn interest but no offers.
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| 185 | Species
ID: 2931173
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 04:37
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Trade announcement:
beastiemiked gets:
Species' 4.04
Species gets:
Anthony Parker
bmd's 6.20
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| 186 | barilko6
ID: 58133021
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 08:23
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I actually have a dynamic 3 in mind, someone who is flying under the radar. I think I might have been able to trade down a bit more and still get him, but I wanted to make sure.
If I had stayed at the 2 spot, I probably would have still selected him, so I was just trying to get anything that would give me some sort of an upgrade.
The real question for me I guess, is could I have coaxed a little more out of RSF? I don't think he would have given me his 2nd for my 3rd. I could be wrong there. But when it comes down to upgrading 3rd, or 5th round picks 5 spots, I didn't think it was that much of a missed value when talking about picks that late.
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| 187 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 10:09
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185 approved
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| 188 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 11:21
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barilko6, its OK to admit you want Dez Mason at 1.03.
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| 189 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 12:43
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So no opinions on GO's proposals in 159?
Also, Keepers are due in less than 24 hours.
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| 190 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 13:02
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Looking to move guys like Udrih, Yi, Haslem for picks.....
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| 191 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 17:32
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Trade Announcement
PR gets
Scola and 6.19
Ref gets
4.08
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| 192 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 23:10
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191 Confirmed
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| 193 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 10:01
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re: 159. I'd vote no on each prop. We already have a review system in place to make sure managers are active and attempting to improve. if not, they are asked to leave the league.
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| 194 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 10:43
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Well if a proposal doesn't have enough support, it doesn't even go to a vote.
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| 195 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 11:25
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Trade Announcement
Ref gets
3.06 2008
4th rounder 2009
B6 gets
5.19 2008
6th rounder 2009
Hinrich
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| 196 | barilko6
ID: 58133021
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 11:28
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Confirm
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| 197 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 12:21
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KF - trade offer sent. Did you get it?
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| 198 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:00
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I'll check now...
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| 200 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:01
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Posting keeper list ASAP
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| 201 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:02
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I accept the trade if we aren't too late...sorry!
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| 202 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:02
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good with me, I'll remove previous announcement
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| 203 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:04
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KF, care to post it while I post my keeper list?
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| 204 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:04
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Re: 199
I'll allow that trade that was made at 1:00. A few seconds later then my hands would have been tied!!! :) GO emailed me that if PR posted that trade in time to confirm it for him. So that trade is approved. I have got to eat lunch but will be back in a few mins to pos tth ekeepers for the teams who haven't posted yet.
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| 205 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:06
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Sorry, the first trade with GO is the one I have to take. It's past the keeper deadline anyhow.
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| 206 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:07
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Ok, well, no one can't say we didn't milk our full time!
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| 207 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:07
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ahhh sorry PR, I guess I should have checked my email sooner!
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| 208 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:09
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I guess so, you FREAK
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| 209 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:12
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OK, so, as I said before, the *&%@# trade announcement is:
Pacers Rule gets:
Chris Wilcox
GO's 6.18 pick
Great One gets:
PR's 5.08 pick
;-)
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| 210 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:28
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hahaha
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| 211 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:44
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OK, as soon as I can figure out who hasn't posted their keeps (looks like one manager), i'll post them and get a mod to clean up some things. Some also forgot to post their drops and several guys like to look back in this thread to see who didn't keep certain players.
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| 212 | Perm Dude
ID: 189181713
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:46
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Posting in a moment. Sorting out the last two guys.
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| 213 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 13:59
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I just figured out it was PD lol. I didn't notice that Slizz had his post deleted and was trying to figure out who else was missing. Please post quickly PD as it's about an hour past the deadline.
I haven't gotten an answer back about starting WW. My guess is that it can only happen if we put all 12 in at once. Even thought about using Kafenatid, but I think how I want to try to do it is manullay add one player a time to all the teams. Not use their offlien draft tool at all. Then allow us to pick up players as normal. Then once we make sure everything is good to go, set a time when the players will be open to pick up. We will still use the WW, but it would be fro dropped players if we can't start it manually. Have already been assuerd their slow draft will be ready to go by next season. They also have a keeper setting but only on certain time sthus far so it doesn't help us. I'll play around with things this afternoon as I'm trying to get this thing ready.
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| 214 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 14:17
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Re: 206
It doesn't matter what time the Keepers are due, there are ALWAYS last minute deals. I'm shocked there weren't higher picks being traded.
If Charlei V didn't look so good last night I might have switched back to Hinrich after his 7 dimes from the 2 last night. But in the end, I just think that CV will shine more than Hinrich. Now if Rose goes down or Kirk gets moved or CV doesn't produce, it could be a big mistake. I just wanted the dimes from Kirk and I don't think it will get many on a regular basis. 3s and scoring should go way up though.
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| 215 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 14:27
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I tell you what, Ref, when the Bulls played the Pacers at the Ft. Wayne Colliseum, There was a clear difference between Hinrich and Rose, in favor (way in favor) of Hinrich. He played with confidence and the whole team seemed to run much more efficiently. Rose is more athletic but just didn't have the leadership or knowledge to run the team yet. It will be interesting to see how the process goes in Chicago and I'm sure they will give Rose time so he can develop, but he's just not ready yet. Maybe later in the season he could come on and maybe even challenge for the starting job, but he has a ways to go and Hinrick is ready to go now.
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| 216 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 14:43
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I agree. I only saw Rose play or a little bit but wsan't impressed. There are some othe rookies, albeit this is preseason, who have really surprised me with their play. I mean I am shocked by it. But I think Rose is the real deal and will be very very good soon. Just not sure the definitition of soon with him. I do konw that the Bulls will throw him into the fire though and say here ya go!
Guru was kind enough to edit the Keeper thread for us. I have had feedback from a few who look back on it throughout the draft/season to see who had/dropped players as well as keepers for future years.
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| 217 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 16:25
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Well ESPN made me enter an offline draft. I added the keepers and compelted it. It was allowed. Now all plaeyrs are on waivers through until Monday. i would rather not have to go through every team and do this again after the draft to get waivers turned on again, but that is one way to do it. For draft picks made before Monday a commish can also add them manually.
So as of now I think this is how our draft will have to go.
1. Make picks in our draft thread and really check hard to make sure your player hasn't already been selected.
2.Go to ESPN and pick him up starting on Monday (commish will get around to picking them up before that).
If we decide that waivers need to be turned on, we may need every team to post their entire rosters to make it easier. I also might recruit a a few guys to help me input all 12 players into offline draft thread (Erases all previous activity). The latter is probably the best way to do it--albeit more work. This will help managers drafting by knowing what player is available and confirm their position.
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| 218 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 16:28
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Also, if we can manually restart waivers then that would save a lot of itme. Also not worried about the waiver order until we get ready to start the season.
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| 219 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 16:50
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OK. Researching more and waivers is not cutomizeable so what I stated before is correct at this point. Everything else looks good. You can search FAs now to help you draft and you can see who has been taken by going to rosters (or draft recap for Keepers).
I'm going to get this draft open today so we can get a few untimed picks off the board. I figure that most of the top picks already have an idea who you're taking anyhow and the rest of us can research while those picks are coming off.
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| 220 | beastiemiked
ID: 51913818
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 17:48
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Let's get the draft up and start going!
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| 221 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 18:45
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I was working on it. ;)
08-09 Draft Thread is now up.
The Draft Discussion Thread is also up. We will now move all of our discussion to that thread.
Remember the clocks don't start until tomorrow at 1:00 ET.
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| 222 | Peter N.
ID: 499310
Sat, Oct 18, 2008, 18:51
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Slizz, don't take my player. ;-)
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