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Subject: RIHC 2008-09: Draft Discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Oct 14x, 2008, 17:47
I will activate the draft momentarily. The clock will not start until Wednesday morning, and any picks tonight are strictly optional. You can, however, begin to set up a queue if you expect timing conflicts tomorrow.
We will proceed with a 6 hour clock. The draft clock will continue through weekends. There will be a clock moratorium each night from 1am until 7am Eastern time. Picks can continue to be made during the moratorium period, but the clock will be paused. Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period. This will be subject to Commissioner discretion.
The draft is configured for only PG, SG, SF, PF, and C. Many players will be eligible for multiple positions; just choose the position designation that seems most appropriate. This is only for the purposes of displaying the draft results, and has no bearing on your eventual usage options.
Our roster configuration will be as follows:
PG, SG, G, G
PF, SF, F, F
C, C
Util, Util
3 bench
2 DL
Yahoo position eligibility will be used throughout the season. You are advised to check the Yahoo league site prior to selecting any player to ensure that you know that player's position eligibility at the start of the season.
You do not need to draft a completely valid roster.
Following the draft, all undrafted players will be placed on waivers, and waiver priorities will start out in inverse draft order.
You may draft a player who is not currently listed at Yahoo. If you do so, you will be assigned a placeholder player at Yahoo until the drafted player is made available, at which time you must pick up that player as a free agent (without using a waiver priority). After the 15 rounds of the draft are completed, you can no longer claim an unlisted player.
This league will have a limit of 84 games per position. Since there are 2 slots for each of G, F, C, and U, those position slots will be subject to a combined limit of 168 games.
Here are my ground rules for selecting from a queue: If you have a queue and make it available, and it is your turn to pick, I will make your pick if I'm around - unless you have provided specific instructions via email or in this thread. Therefore, do not make (or leave) your queue available if you do not want it used.
You can specify that only the top name on your queue is to be displayed, or that the entire queue is to be shown. If you make the entire queue visible, I'll certainly check for any emails that might provide additional instructions. You can also authorize a DP to make a selection "free-form" (i.e., typing in the name, rather than selecting from a preset list.) Presumably, you would elect this only if you provide specific instructions to your DP(s).
Regardless, be aware that your queue is not visible to me or to any other designated picker until it is your turn to pick.
Please refrain from mentioning any undrafted player in this thread. You can use this thread to alert others about your availability, to request volunteers to accept a queue, to raise questions about draft rules or mechanics, to solicit trade offers or announce trades, etc.
Based on recent drafts, it is reasonable to expect that we will complete approximately 24 picks (2 full rounds) per day. Do not assume that you'll have a day off.
After two rounds have been completed, I will start a separate thread for draft rationales. We will then try to keep the rationale thread on a 2 round delay. |
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| 229 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 08:53
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I made PR's queue pick.
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| 230 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 08:58
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I didn't check here before I picked for PR, so hopefully I didn't put a time crunch on holt unnecessarily. sorry!
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| 232 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 09:21
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Pacers Rule: Trade offer sent.
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| 233 | holt
ID: 29913193
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 13:15
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sorry guys, haven't been able to access the net this morning. will pick shortly.
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| 234 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 14:26
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Nice to see you take Brother Love. He was lonely in the green room.
I'm leaving in about 35 minutes and won't be around for around 7 hours, so I'll Q it up....
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| 237 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 17:56
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Wow - just home from work after some unexpected things came up.
Got some family stuff to square away here and then I'll have a decision to either pick or trade picks with Florian. Sorry about the delay.
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| 238 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:28
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Trade:
Florian gets:
13.02
15.02
Pacers Rule gets:
13.06
14.06
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| 239 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:30
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I concur with the trade.
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| 240 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:31
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#228 Believe it or not, I still got my man in the 12th. Your pick of Haslem here was probably pretty good, with the latest press out of Miami.
I just hope Florian doesn't nab a super pick, but since he seems to see someone standing out, I'll probably be like "doh!" after I see who he takes.
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| 241 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:32
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I have to leave in a few minutes, and will not return until after 9:30. I'm going to go ahead and process the trade without confirmation from Florian, just to try to get this thing moving again.
Mike D has set up a queue - I just hope someone other than me is a DP, or it will have to wait.
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| 242 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:32
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Pacers Rule: Please draft Nate Robinson (NY) for me please with the 13.02 pick.
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| 243 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:34
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I guess Florian concurred while I was typing. All the better.
Trade has been processed. I'm out of here.
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| 244 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:40
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Wow. That is the very guy whose reports I was reading just now. You dog. ;-)
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| 245 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:43
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I wanted Nate as well. Now i need to rethink.
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| 246 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 20:08
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I'm around, shouldn't be too terrible long.
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| 247 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 20:36
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9 picks before its my turn again, im too tired to leave a queue now of 9 players... hope I dont hold up things, but Ill pick immediately after i wake up, should it be my turn by then.
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| 248 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 20:48
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Might as well stay aggressive. If Stephon doesn't pan out here in the 13th, I'll feel much less silly than I did two years ago when I took him in the third.
I was looking at Nate earlier, Florian, when D'Antoni was raving about his athleticism. But the latest noise with Crawford going to the bench and Robinson and Marbury both starting was just too much. I'd love to see little Nate thrive. He's fun to watch. I really doubt Stephon ends up with starter's minutes but on the off chance he does, he's a decent consolation prize to Nate.
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| 249 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 21:02
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I can't imagine a three guard line-up with Marbury, Duhon and Robinson working at all. I think it's much more likely to be Marbury (or Crawford) and Duhon with Robinson coming off the bench much like Barbosa did in Phoenix for D'Antoni. If Robinson can approach what Barbosa did in Phoenix I'll be thrilled.
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| 250 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 21:11
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Mike D, you're in danger of letting the draft grid color award go to Florian this year.
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| 252 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 22:35
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Lol---I return home and see I've been called out. I need to finish with a flurry of moves. ;)
Weird, but really haven't had the desire or opening to make any deals, except for my offer to Species that I wasn't able to finalize since I was gone. That deal would have been signed/sealed/delivered. But otherwise, things have just been flowing.....
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| 253 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 22:36
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Robinson was in my Q, I can't remember if he was first though. I don't think so. I think 2nd.
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| 254 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 23:06
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Picked for Species.
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| 255 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 23:22
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Queue is SET for Round 14. Fire away.
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| 257 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 07:18
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Picked for Species.
Queue active - use for pick 14.07 only please. I should be back home by around 12:30 Eastern today so if we're within an hour or so of then when I come up, I'd prefer to make my own pick.
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| 258 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 07:52
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Gone til around 1:30 Eastern, small Q left.
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| 265 | KnicksFan
Sustainer
ID: 030815418
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 11:55
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Fun Fact: Pacers Rule now has drafted 5 former or current Indiana Pacers. (Dunleavy, Jerm-O, TJ Ford, Ron Artest, Jarrett Jack)
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| 266 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 12:04
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Thanks to most of you for staying very current with your rationales. I just went through the threads, and here is the list if the missing ones through round 11:
E’ville Destiny/footwedge
9.10 KMart
10.03 Nene
11.10 Scola
12.03 Posey
s R
7.12 Salmons
8.01 Thornton
9.12 M. Gasol
10.01 Bargnani
11.12 Maxiell
12.01 Barnes
deejay
11.08 Bell
weykool
11.07 Stuckey
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| 270 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 13:04
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265 - LOL. This year the homer in me has definitely come out. If I'd have had my way, I'd also have taken Murphy.
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| 271 | holt
ID: 29913193
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 13:16
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I gotta go out for a while - no comp access - will be back in 2-3 hrs.
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| 272 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:03
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Still some Pacers available...sweet!!
Gotta run them all through their paces for a little while here.
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| 273 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:06
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one less PR, or dont you consider him as a Pacer anymore? :)
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| 274 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:20
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LOL. I saw his name on there, and I was more surprised than anything. I definitely don't consider him a Pacer at this point, though technically he is. When your locker has been cleaned out and your belongings sent to you, and you've been told to stay away, that pretty much parallels how I feel about him as a Pacer. Not even sure I want to acknowledge the 'ex-pacer' label at this point. Too bad really. So much potential in his game. So much potential in his life, squandered on the streets.
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| 275 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 15:45
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He he. I had the opportunity to own the entire starting and reserve Pacers backcourt on my team. I almost got it done, but decided in the end to go Bass fishing.
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| 277 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 20:24
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Time for bed, there is a queue...
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| 278 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 20:32
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I have entered the draft results into Yahoo through pick 15.04. Please review the list for your team to be sure I have done it accurately.
Yahoo draft results
Note that all teams will appear to have two empty slots, reserved for injuries. We will only draft 15 rounds.
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| 279 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:10
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Extreme Basketball is accurate except for not having Chris Paul and Amare on there. But we didn't expect perfection. ;)
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| 280 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:12
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Knicks Fan has an incorrect pick for Round 10.08.
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| 281 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:25
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Team Indy Dream A-OK
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| 282 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:42
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My roster is O.K. The overall draft positions for Calderon, Boozer, Nate Robinson and Delonte West are not accurate due to them being involved in trades, but I don't think it's worth fixing.
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| 283 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:45
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Sorry for the delay...Florian you're up!
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| 284 | KnicksFan
ID: 188563018
Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 22:46
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SABOTAGE!!! Please don't curse me with Undrafted player!
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| 285 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 07:24
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My roster is fine!
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| 286 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 07:43
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Florian you thief. :(
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| 287 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 11:07
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[282] I have no interest in getting the actual draft order correct in Yahoo. I'm only interested in getting the correct bodies on each team.
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| 288 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 11:08
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Please post your rationales for rounds 14 and 15 here. And please get caught up on any prior round rationales ASAP. I'd like to wrap up the rationale threads as soon as possible.
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| 298 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 14:37
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The draft is complete, and all picks have been entered at the Yahoo site. If you have not done so, please review for accuracy. Later this afternoon, I will activate the league, and all undrafted players will be on waivers for 2 days.
If you have a draftee who is eligible for an injury slot, you may add a player to your roster from free agency after waivers have cleared. You may also submit a waiver claim to add an injury-replacement player, but this will count as a regular waiver claim (and therefore move your priority to the back.)
Initial waiver priorities will be the reverse of the round 1 draft order.
Please post your remaining rationales ASAP.
I will start a draft recap thread for your comments. You are not, however, required to post comments in that thread.
I will also publish a consolidated listing of picks from all five RIHC leagues. However, I will defer on that until all league drafts have been completed. (The AA#2 league is just about finished with round 12.)
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| 305 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 24, 2008, 20:02
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The league has been activated. All undrafted players have a waiver date of Oct. 27. I believe waivers will be processed early that morning, and free agents can then be added on Monday in time to be activated for Tuesday's opening games.
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| 311 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 20:16
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Great job on finishing up the rationales! Eleven of you are done. We're only missing the last several from holt.
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| 312 | holt
ID: 29913193
Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 20:55
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argh - sorry
will get them done.
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| 313 | holt
ID: 29913193
Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 21:52
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12.12 Kevin Love C MIN
I wasn't planning to take so many unproven players in a row but Love had dropped way beyond his adp (according to all the mocks, rihc's, cheat sheets, etc.). He'll probably come off the bench to start the season but he should still get his fair share of minutes. He projects to be a good offensive big guy (3's and points) who can help with rebounds. hopefully I won't have to cut him due to lack of playing time. hell, it's the 144th pick of the draft. low risk, possibly high reward.
13.01 Ramon Sessions PG MIL
took him purely bade on those ridiculous games he had at the end of last season. what was he getting, 15 assiste per game? anyway, I might have to cut him due to lack of playing time. at the time that I drafted him none of that was fully clear. I took a long hard look at Grant Hill here. Not sure why I didn't take him now. Maybe I should have.
14.12 Hakim Warrick SF MEM
With more starter minutes projected, I'm hoping this is a breakthrough season for Warrick. His FG% is over 50, he's capable of putting up 20 ppg, and can help a little in all the counting stats (including 3's) other than assists.
15.01 Jerryd Bayless PG POR
I had a hard time finding anyone I wanted to draft here. At the time I drafted Bayless it was looking like he could receive decent playing time, but recent news reports make that seem improbable (at least early on). I'll probably cut him so no need to say any more.
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