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Subject: Inclusiveness Posted by: Baldwin - [201045320] Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 22:02 What is it good for? Absolutely nothin. Stalin was inclusive. His opponents got to be included in building the worker's paradise for a couple years or so while they were worked to death in Siberia building railroads and mining. Michelle reveals some of the flavor of Obama's inclusiveness... And Barack Obama will require you to work.Just what have his associates had to say about the subject in the past? the testimony of FBI informant Larry Grathwohl in the 1982 documentary No Place to Hide. -Ayers and Dohrn in their own words... Why? Because what people say matters. Especially people who are as serious as a heart attack about hardcore marxism. They don't come any more hardcore than Bill Ayers and Obama is his creation. | |||||||
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| 118 | Boxman ID: 337352111 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 09:27 |
more your neck of the woods than mine, Mr. JW. Great show of tolerance Mr. Jew. | ||||||
| 119 | Seward Norse ID: 297412913 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 10:20 | Lots of strange things happening here in Minnesota. Ballots that were left in a car? Forgetting to call votes in? Hearing 406 instead of 506? Does sound kind of fishy to me, and I don't like either one of them(Franken or Coleman). | ||||||
| 120 | Tree ID: 121035316 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 10:25 |
more your neck of the woods than mine, Mr. JW. Great show of tolerance Mr. Jew. absolutely nothing intolerant about it. the home base for the JWs is in Brooklyn. that's all. Baldwin has more roots in Brooklyn than i do. | ||||||
| 121 | Perm Dude ID: 181014128 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 10:42 |
Baldwin, are you aware of any conservatives who have been blocked from advancement in the field of social work because of what the CSWE advocates? Any at all? You realize that the goal of social work is to advance social justice, yes? I realize that the term "social justice" gives you the itches, but if someone decides to enter that field (or any number of others, such as peace studies or theology), they will be saturated in "liberal" ideology because the program is, at its core, a liberal one. You can't abdicate the entire field of social justice and be surprised that liberals pick up your slack. | ||||||
| 122 | Tree ID: 121035316 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 11:43 |
I don't like either one of them(Franken or Coleman). i've heard that refrain before from your parts. it's what almost caused Jesse Ventura to run for the seat, saying "i whipped Coleman before, i'll do it again." | ||||||
| 123 | Seward Norse ID: 297412913 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:23 | I think Jesse may have won. His right hand man Barkley got 15% of the vote. It was a VERY negative campaign, which caused my wife to vote Barkley. | ||||||
| 124 | Tree ID: 121035316 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 16:46 |
and back to post 112, from our very own Minister of Distortion. looks like this country is leaning left... Americans OK with Democrats in charge, poll suggests In a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Tuesday, 59 percent of those questioned think that Democratic control of both the executive and legislative branches will be good for the country, with 38 percent saying that such one-party control will be bad. that, as your hero once said about himself, that, is a mandate. oh yea, and so is this: The poll also suggests that the public has a positive view of the Democratic Party, with 62 percent having a favorable opinion and 31 percent an unfavorable opinion. That is not the case for the Republicans, with a majority, 54 percent, having an unfavorable view of the GOP and 38 percent holding a positive view. so please. maybe your little minority wants to at least TRY to get along with the rest of the nation? i mean, it would be nice, and well, Christian of you to at least give this new government, and possible new way of doing things, a chance. | ||||||
| 125 | boikin ID: 532592112 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 16:56 |
It is OK i am sure they will be upset soon enough...opinion is quite fickle. just looking at the poles they changed 9 points in less than month. there was also this mandate: But that doesn't mean the public wants to see the GOP shut out of government. Seven out of eight want the Democrats to include Republican views in any legislation they pass. | ||||||
| 126 | Razor ID: 181051618 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 16:57 | Oh Tree, there is nothing Christian about socialism and the end of the rights of man. | ||||||
| 127 | Perm Dude SuperDude ID: 030792616 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 17:03 |
Re 112: A more meaningful post about the Minnesota recount. Replying one point at a time to 112: 1) There are no hanging chads to 'interpret' in Minnesota, at least not in the areas where Franken supporters are finding new votes for Franken. The ballots are spit right back at the voter if he refused to vote for the senate seat, so that they get a second chance to refuse to vote in that category, or to see their mistake if they really meant Franken. I'm not sure where this little nugget is going, but there are all sorts of balloting methods not being used in Minnesota. What is actually happening rights now is that the machines are being audited (and because MN audits its machines, finding an error rate in place anyway, careful hand counts are the backup to errors). This means in a tight race like this, machine error can make a difference, which is why MN has a recount clause in her election laws. 2) It is statistical madness to believe that the only race where there is significant movement in one direction just happens to be the Coleman/Franken race. Another strawman argument not being made by anyone. There hasn't been "significant" movement in the race at all. It just happens to be that the movement is in a tight race--a race in which nearly all pre-election polls was showing that this would be a tight race. And while the overall numbers happen to be moving toward Franken, there are a number of undervotes which will be for Coleman. None of the numbers are a huge surprise. 3) Deciding close races by cherry-picking the most liberal districts in the state is getting old. I suppose if that is what is going on one might see that. But this is the third point in a row in which a "fact" is being disputed which isn't actually happening in MN. The recount will hand count all votes. Are you against this? 4) Acorn Now here's something which is getting old! I suppose you've got the shorthand down that you need not even try to make the same old fake argument anymore? Even though your linked article alludes to some kind of problem with ACORN, click through to see what the problem is. Go ahead. We'll wait. In the meantime, it bears repeating: There have been no verified cases of someone registered by ACORN casting a ballot who should not have have. None. Not one. | ||||||
| 128 | Baldwin ID: 361056125 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 17:08 | The power elite sure love chaos. A marxist global government was inevitible given who is in control and how little time he has left. I wasn't expecting evil to move this swiftly but I probably should have been. | ||||||
| 129 | Baldwin ID: 361056125 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 17:14 |
PD I predicted the stealing of senate seats and here it is happening. I'm so disgusted I can't bring myself to look at it any further atm. One party needs an extra couple thousand votes beyond 50%. That is where this country is at. You'll be so happy you won't remember to apologize to me for not believing me when I predicted it. | ||||||
| 130 | Perm Dude SuperDude ID: 030792616 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 17:25 |
You can predict all you want. It doesn't mean that is what is happening here. This is an extremely tight race--so close that there is an automatic hand recount. Given the fact of machine errors even in optical scanners, until that recount is in we can't say anything. In fact, we don't know for sure how many real votes each candidate has. If Franken wins the election based upon a careful hand recount it isn't "stealing." It is "counting" and "adding up." Until then, your "predictions" and projections masking as open fretting will have to stand the test of reality. I doubt it'll stand up, but since there appears to be no penalty to you for being wildly wrong you'll continue to throw up whatever you want to at the wall, pointing and screaming at us to look before it all slides to the floor in a heap. | ||||||
| 131 | bibA ID: 010421015 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 18:03 |
How's this for a prediction: If Franken wins the recount, Baldwin will state that the fix was in, that the Dems conived to steal the senate seat. If Coleman wins, he will say that the count was accurate. | ||||||
| 132 | Baldwin ID: 361056125 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 18:33 | How many days till Franken calls in Mayor Daily's election rigging brother, oh farsighted one? | ||||||
| 133 | Baldwin ID: 361056125 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 18:58 |
PDHow would you know if people using fake names had cast votes in states without strict ID laws?" says GOP Indiana Secretary of State Todd Rokita, who this year won a major Supreme Court case upholding his state's photo identification law. "It's almost impossible to detect and once the fraudulent voter leaves the precinct or casts an absentee ballot, that vote is thrown in with other secret ballots there's no way to trace it."Research the fraudulent primary election of the East Chicago Mayor using absentee ballot fraud. Massive. Obama forces are WELL aware of how to pull this off. | ||||||
| 134 | sarge33rd ID: 99331714 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 19:42 |
They are? Did they take lessons in voter fraud from the 2000/2004 Presidential GOP practices in FL and OH? {note: I am most certainly not saying there is voter fraud here. There may be, there may not be. Be either way, Baldwin, as bibA said, will continue to insist that there is simply because it is 'possible'. He'll not even attempt to prove it. Just claim its possible and therefore present.} | ||||||
| 135 | Perm Dude SuperDude ID: 030792616 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 20:33 |
Franklin County prosecutor Ron O'Brien also cracked down in the case of 13 out-of-state registrants who came to Ohio to register voters in Columbus for the group Vote From Home. The group all lived out of the same rented 1,175-square-foot house in Ohio, registered to vote and then most of them either cast early voting ballots or submitted applications for absentee ballots before leaving the state. They have agreed to have all of their ballots canceled in exchange for the prosecutor's decision not to file charges. - John Fund at Politico This has, of course, come up before. Vote From Home is not ACORN. Are you under the impression they are? Even if you are, the same prosecutor (Ron O'Brien) said elsewhere in the Columbus Dispatch article John Fund selectively quotes that the Vote from Home people, in his opinion, had no intention of deceiving anyone. The rest of the article is long on allegations, short on specifics, and nicely mixes things up to the point where (even if you wanted to tell the different points going on, which you don't) you have to be very careful to discern. By way of example, you point out Vote from Home, which had nothing at all to do with ACORN. None. Yet you cite it as though it somehow refutes my point about ACORN registering people and then those people casting votes who should not have. The problem with ACORN, as has been pointed out to you time and time again, is that they have turned in fake registrations. As in: The names on the forms aren't real. But, like much of your point about voter fraud, these fake people seem to be voting in droves in some otherworldly election where everything is unjustly taken from you. And when confronted by the lack of evidence, you turn turtle and talk about the Kingdom of God, as though your intentional lies and smears will somehow get you a ticket in. | ||||||
| 136 | Baldwin ID: 361056125 Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 21:16 |
And you, in order to absolve Obama, keep ignoring that a fraudulent registered voter is one step and one dishonst Acorn worker away from a fraudulent absentee vote. One step and one dishonest Acorn worker are as common as...buckeyes in ohio. | ||||||
| 137 | Tree ID: 121035316 Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 11:48 |
If Coleman were behind Franken in the voting, and there was a recount, Baldwin would be wearing his cute little skirt and waving his pom poms around cheering for Coleman's comeback. and if Franken still won after a recount, Baldwin would claim the fix is in. there is no other poster on this board who is as partisan as Baldwin is. he can claim he belongs to no political party, but he is as partisan as it gets, and there is simply no room for compromise on his radical agenda. everything he posts is heresay, rumour, and lie. and when caught in one of his lies - as he often is - he'll back track with some sort of linkage where if A happens, OF COURSE B happsns, and thusly C follows. i appreciate you Baldwin. i will give thanks for you in a couple weeks, because lord knows, without you, this board would be sane. i, for one, can appreciate the ramblings of a stark raving loon, because, it's funny. you really should move to NYC, and wander the sidewalks preaching your beliefs. you'd fit right in with the other nut jobs. | ||||||
| 138 | Perm Dude ID: 1410231313 Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 14:24 |
And you, in order to absolve Obama... Is this about Obama? Or is that another example of your inability to stay on topic when the truth makes you politically uncomfortable? | ||||||
| 139 | Baldwin ID: 471049135 Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 16:09 |
Exactly which of us is uncomfortable with Obama's links to Acorn and Dem voter fraud? Dem voter fraud has been the topic on the table since the Franken race started to look like FLA'04' 20 posts ago. Just which of us is trying to dodge the topic? Your love covers a multitude of sins. Just don't expect every last person to stick his head in that sand. Nice chutzpah trying to claim the originator of the thread with topic drift. | ||||||
| 140 | Perm Dude ID: 201051315 Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 18:44 |
Dodge! Man, that's funny. Truly. In a series of posts about Minnesota's Senate race, you inject ACORN and Obama and call it a dodge when I don't go off on the path you are willing to trod all by yourself. And you bring it up at the point where you are losing the argument about the MN Senate race. Coincidence? | ||||||
| 141 | Baldwin ID: 471049135 Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 19:27 | I am never losing an argument. And if I ever do you won't be able to tell the difference from all the times you deluded yourself into thinking I was. | ||||||
| 142 | Tree ID: 3810481322 Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 00:15 |
I am never losing an argument. Baldwin, you haven't made a lick of sense on these forums in months. every thing you've typed has been a lost argument. | ||||||
| 143 | Baldwin ID: 471049135 Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 02:46 |
Posting on the same forum as Tree is like a scientist who crash-lands in Borneo and meets a tribe who has never interacted with the modern world. To the scientist communication is a chore, barely possible, and he risks getting mistaken for food for the kettle. To the tribe he's a simpleton who can't even talk. | ||||||
| 144 | Tree ID: 421047145 Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 06:53 |
ah, there's the Baldwin i was waiting for. the ranting psuedo Christian who will throw an unrelated personal insult at a rival faster than he'll ejaculate at group meeting for "Wingnuts for Coulter". SZ was right - it's kinda fun to see your weird posts devolve even further as they become insults. i keep trying to stop myself, but you're fish in a barrel. i definitely feel some guilt though. it's like picking on the crazy homeless guy up the block. i'd never do it, but for you, for some reason, it's much easier, and more fun. damned internet. | ||||||
| 145 | Boldwin ID: 2410291417 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 15:17 | The tolerant. | ||||||
| 146 | Tree ID: 4710111515 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 16:19 |
nice article Baldwin. after all, teenagers have always been known for their tolerance. they've NEVER picked on anyone for being fat, skinny, tall, short, rich, poor, black, white, having zits, being perfect, and so on. definitely an interesting social experiment, but not alltogether shocking they would pick on someone for being "different" by wearing a McCain shirt. | ||||||
| 147 | WiddleAvi ID: 710271316 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 17:13 | Baldwin - Is your point that people were harrased for supporting McCain ?? If thats the point I will find you plenty of stories of people getting harrased for Supporting Obama ? Whats your view on people getting treated unfairly for being gay ? | ||||||
| 148 | Boldwin ID: 2410291417 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 19:19 |
The self-assuming lovers of tolerance and diversity aren't. This fact is not limited to his youngest supporters. | ||||||
| 149 | tree on the treo ID: 361053417 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 20:23 |
are you seriously so stupid and so far removed from reality that you think a bunch of middle schoolers are the most accepting lot? aside from people like you, they are probably the least tolerant crowd. | ||||||
| 150 | Perm Dude ID: 21041510 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 20:26 |
Should I go ahead and link to the middle school students in Idaho who were chanting "Assassinate Obama!" | ||||||
| 151 | astade ID: 23100322 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 23:28 |
please... let's quell the notion that being 'anti-Obama' is difficult. | ||||||
| 152 | Boldwin ID: 2410291417 Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 23:37 | PD, sure...link to it. | ||||||
| 153 | Tree ID: 51011420 Sun, Nov 16, 2008, 00:45 |
here ya go, bigotwin - a slew of racial incidents relating to the Obama election... among the listed items is the one PD referenced. people like you, Coulter, Palin, and that whole crowd of idiots you like to associate with play a role in this sort of behaviour. i'm sure you're proud. | ||||||
| 154 | Boldwin ID: 2410291417 Sun, Nov 16, 2008, 01:20 | Hey, I saved his life. He listened to me and didn't nominate Hillary. | ||||||
| 155 | Tree ID: 51011420 Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 09:59 | more tolerance on Obama... | ||||||
| 156 | Boldwin ID: 4010491810 Tue, Nov 18, 2008, 11:54 | The Castro, home of the lovers of tolerance and diversity. | ||||||
| 157 | Boldwin ID: 541042014 Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 18:49 |
 Diversity Lane via Moonbattery | ||||||
| 158 | Tree ID: 5110362211 Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 12:50 |
The Castro, home of the lovers of tolerance and diversity. not sure what in that video is wrong. you apparently had one group staging their own form of protest against homosexuality, and another group staging a counter-protest against the people who had played a role in denying them equality. after reading some stuff on the internet, there may have been some attacks on the christians, but that came from one source, so it's hard to accept it as the gospel, so to speak. if there was violence, it's unacceptable. it should be noted, however, that at least one of the members of the justice house of prayer (the christian group who came to protest, and was met with a much larger counter-protest), apprently has connections with a christian, anti-gay group called Joel's Law, that has not only called for the stoning of homosexuals, but has been IDed by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a potentially violent group that believes the U.S. "should be governed by conservative Christians and a conservative Christian interpretation of biblical law." and well, Baldwin, considering how much weight you put on one person knowing another, even if it is through a passing glance, you should think twice about posting something from this group of "christians" who preach hate and intolerance. more info can be found at this link... so, very clearly, this video showed nothing that was really outlandish, and in fact, exposes the group you support as having connections to an organizations that advocates the murder of homosexuals. kudos to you. | ||||||
| 159 | Boldwin ID: 541042014 Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 17:38 | A pod-person such as yourself would of course consider that standard operating procedure. | ||||||
| 160 | tree on the treo ID: 361053417 Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 18:29 |
standing up to intolerance? absolutely... advocating the murder of those who you disagree with? that's your domain, be they muslims or homosexuals... | ||||||
| 161 | Boldwin ID: 541042014 Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 19:36 | Is there a moderator in the house? | ||||||
| 162 | tree on the treo ID: 361053417 Sat, Nov 22, 2008, 21:15 |
just using your standards. you post a link, and by doing so, show support for a religious group. this group, in turn has connections with another group who advocates the stoning of homosexuals, and a simple google search reveals that fact. you've spent the last several months advocatng guilt by association...should the same standard not apply to your associations? | ||||||
| 163 | Boldwin ID: 1810312617 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 10:17 | If this were only a movie and we could just willfully suspend disbelief, however it's not and wishes are not horses. | ||||||
| 164 | Perm Dude ID: 610502616 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 11:11 |
Heh. So you're reduced to mocking people who accept the election as genuine and who take the man at his word? | ||||||
| 165 | Pancho Villa ID: 51546319 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 11:53 |
Meanwhile, she who rules all she surveys opens her column with this typical distortion: I thought the rest of the world was going to love us if we elected B. Hussein Obama! Somebody better tell the Indian Muslims. Cute. Connect a tragic incident in India to the President-elect because....because....well, because that's who she is and that's what she does. This isn't political commentary, or satire, or any type of journalistic integrity. She just sinks lower and lower into the abyss of irrelevance. | ||||||
| 166 | Tree ID: 51011420 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 13:15 |
PV - Coulter knows her audience well. she knows they're not intelligent enough to think for themselves, they don't have the grasp of simple logic to figure out truths from lies, and they believe that fear controls all. it also appears there are enough of them that she'll thrive for the next eight years, minimum. god bless her for figuring a way to make million by entertaining fools, but, really, she's just a court jester for a minority of dimwits. | ||||||
| 167 | Pancho Villa ID: 51546319 Thu, Nov 27, 2008, 16:52 |
Here's what's completely pathetic about Coulter's column. The jist is about a Gitmo amputee who was released in 2004 and proceeded to mastermind the kidnapping of two Chinese engineers in Pakistan working on the Gomal Zam Dam project. Oh, and that American taxpayers had paid for his prosthetic leg. None of this has anything to do with Obama. It was the Bush administration that approved his prosthesis at taxpayer expense and the Bush administration that approved his release from Gitmo. It's baffling that anyone could take her seriously, much less elevate her to the status of spokesperson for any legitimate political movement. | ||||||
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