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Subject: Gurupie 24 2007 Season Discussion
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 15:47
Waivers have been turned on and our season is officially underway. The order can be found on your team's add/drop page and it reflects the same base order as the draft.
Below are the threads from the Leagues Forum pertaining to our drafts:
Supplemental Draft Thread
Supp Draft Discussion
Supp Draft Recap
IDP Draft
IDP Draft Discussion
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| 65 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 13:08
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My team did much much much better than expected.
The Titans D was the 3rd to last D picked I believe late in the 4th round. Crosby was taken late in the final round. The Titans D lost 4 points overnight and put a dmaper on my 2nd upset but it's still possible. Need Clements to go nuts though and Rackers to be inaaccurate on the chances he does get.
Plax is my best player. Berrian should be studly as well. The rest of my team will be a crapshoot from week to week. Gonzo should be great esp. with the QBs in KC this year. Tenn D facing Indy next week so won't expect much from my Ds. Still shocked at well my team did this week--though still likely to be 1-1.
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| 66 | Doug
ID: 441251914
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 17:19
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If I can get 2.1 points out of Steven Jackson and still wind up with the high score of the week, I'll be a happy camper. :p
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| 67 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 20:29
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David Boston was found to be under the influence of GHB when he fell asleep behind the wheel of his SUV in the middle of the street last month.
Gamma hydroxybutyrate is used as a sedative and for body building, and is also known as "liquid ecstasy," "soap," and "Georgia home boy." Boston will now go to trial on charges of misdemeanor driving under the influence.
Source: St. Petersburg Times
Pete, you sure can pick'em.
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| 68 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 10:36
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I've sent yet another note into CBS. They don't have any of the distances on teh missed field goals for some reason and they are all coming up -3 despite the distance missed. First time in 6 years so that will change some scoring. We also have to go in and manually subtract any negative yards (they automatically include -1 yds but can't figure out how to code for multiple neg. yds). Lots of close games so the MFG could be huge.
I hate leaving wins on the bench. If I had started the right combination I'd have gotten another W. Rather get blown out!
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| 69 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:03
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Your daily Charlie Frye update:
POSTED 11:48 a.m. EDT, September 11, 2007
FRYE TRADED
WTAM radio in Cleveland reports that the Browns have traded quarterback Charlie Frye to an unnamed team.
Because WTAM is the Browns' flagship radio station, the news is being regarded in media circles are legit. Per WTAM, Frye is being traded to make room for Ken Dorsey.
Earlier on Tuesday, a league source told us that Frye was "definitely not out" in Cleveland. Apparently, "definitely" doesn't mean what our source thought it meant.
POSTED 12:20 p.m. EDT, September 10, 2007
NO FRYE TRADE YET
WTAM has altered its report regarding Browns quarterback Charlie Frye. Earlier in the day, WTAM reported that Frye has been traded to an unnamed team. Now, WTAM reports that the Browns are merely trying to trade Frye.
Per the new report, Frye will be cut if he's not traded.
The speed with which Frye has gone from starter to reject highlights, in our view, the pressure that coach Romeo Crennel and G.M. Phil Savage are facing. Frye didn't even get a full half to prove himself.
Our guess is that the Browns initially floated the "Charlie is already traded" story in the hopes of smoking an interested suitor out of the weeds. Apparently, it didn't work.
Frye, a third-round draft pick in 2005, generated plenty of hype as a rookie. But his performance never matched the perceived potential.
He is signed through 2008, at salaries of $435,000 in 2007 and $465,000 in 2008. Since he is not a vested veteran, he can be released without the Browns potentially owing him the rest of his 2007 base pay.
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| 70 | Perm Dude
ID: 58846119
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:10
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As usual, the Browns have no idea what they are doing.
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| 71 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:18
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Thats up there with the Vikings not having draft picks ready when they were on the clock.
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| 72 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:47
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I dont know...Oakland's front office was pretty bad this year in how they handled their personnell.
1st round pick JaMarcus Russell unsigned and 3rd round pick (1st overall) Quentin Moses cut due to an "administrative error". Thats pretty bad...
Sorry GO, but I'm gonna throw Tangini (Tannenbaum & Mangini) under the bus. The Jets front office arrogance has to be up there too. First the absolutely unecessary holdout of Darelle Revis due to Tannebaum's demand that he signs a 6th year and refuses to pay him as such. Also, their refusal to adjust LG Pete Kendalls contract to reflect his market value in light of the ridiculous money paid to Dockery, Steinbach & Co. Now they have to make chicken salad out of chicken shit at the left guard spot! Thats one big reason why TJ couldnt do anything vs the Pats...WITHOUT SEYMOUR & HARRISON!
As for the Browns, Romeo Crenell needs to go. He is just not that good of a head coach.
From Peter Kings MMQB:
Cleveland's first series Sunday: Jamal Lewis for 2, Frye incomplete pass, Frye sacked, new punter Paul Ernster fumbles the punt snap and gets off a wobbly 15-yarder. On fourth down, Cleveland had three penalties declined -- a hold, an illegal formation and ineligible receiver downfield.
I mean c'mon, that is just terrible. He has to go...there is no excuses for that level of incompetence. Regardless if the Browns (Cowboys) pick #1 overall next season, they made the right move in getting Brady Quinn. Thats about the only positive thing I can say.
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| 73 | Perm Dude
ID: 58846119
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:55
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Oakland is certainly having problems as well. What's with cutting a perfectly good (and cheap) WR in Gabriel?
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| 74 | beastiemiked
ID: 65112917
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:11
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I swear my team luckboxes so many wins these past 3 years that I've managed it.
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| 75 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 16:00
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The Kendall situation will lead to Pennington getting injured. I think we can all agree with that. It almost already happened. Maybe TanGini secretly hope thats the case and are looking for a backdoor way to put Clemens in there. Maybe they were piping in the cheers when Pennington went down on Sunday!
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| 76 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 18:02
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I adjusted my team and TB's team due to multiple negative yards as always.
Some of the scores still are not right. If your matchup had a Missed Feild Goal, CBS has still not responded. I can manually go through and adjust them but if they fix it later, it will be messed up again so am waiting...for now.
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| 77 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 18:30
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Looks like they have fixed it now.
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| 78 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 19:30
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Anyone who even remotely believed that Quentin Moses was cut due to an "administrative error" just doesn't have their head on straight. Honestly, what team has an assistant put the list together and just fax it over? That was a dumb rumor that surprisingly was eaten up by many gullible people. I'm guessing it's all done via email anyway, but c'mon. I saw the interview with Kiffin right after the cuts were announced and he talked about why they cut Moses. We've seen several third round picks from last year and the year before cut just before this season started. I'm glad they cut their losses now. Clemons had a pretty good game and I think he showed how he could be effective versus both the run and the pass. If anything, Oakland's mistake was in drafting Moses that high.
Gabriel sometimes had hands of stone and he had a crappy attitude. The two reasons Oakland picked him back up after NE waived him last year (after Oakland had already traded him) were 1) Porter drama and other wr injuries and 2) They were going top be out his pro-rated salary anyway. Again, if he couldn't stick with NE and their WR problems from last year that should say something. I think Buchanon, McFoy, and Morant had Gabs beat this year and they were each cut as well.
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| 79 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 21:16
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Re: 77 agreed
Scores appear to be final now.
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| 80 | Slizz
ID: 398161117
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 23:25
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RE: 78
*laughs* I think we got a little too defensive of the raiders buddy. I just was merely pointing out the fact that the way the front office handled the draft was a complete and utter mess!!! Consider that their first round pick was unsigned going into the regular season combined with the fact that they cut a guy they drafted so high in Moses. Rookies drafted at that position are expected to contribute and possibly start their first year!
I think thats safe to say that it was a piss poor job of handling the rookies no matter how you cut it. period.
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| 81 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 00:05
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Maybe if I get time this weekend I will do a "where are they now" for all the third round picks for the last three years. I'm sure, as you suggest, that most of them are starting for NFL teams, all except for the one Arizona cut this year and the one we signed to our practice squad that St. Louis drafted last year.
I'll agree that they did not handle Russell like they should have. I got poop from an "insider" the night before the draft that we had agreed to a contract with Russell. This is the same person who told us (Raider fans insider board) that Zach Miller would be our 2nd round pick and who has been on the money a lot over the years. Imagine my surprise when he was still holding out. I didn't expect Russell to start this year and certainly not in week one, but yes it could have been handled better and I would have preferred he got a full camp.
I'll admit I was happy when we drafted Moses. I thought we got a bargain in the third round and we need someone who can put pressure on the QB opposite Burgess. Turns out Moses doesn't have the heart to play the game at the pro level and the signs were there his senior season. Like I said, better to cut him now and keep a player who can contribute on the team rather than let him steal a spot for a year or two before cutting him. If it wasn't the Raiders, it wouldn't be news. How many draft picks did NE keep this year? I just looked at their roster and see that only 2 out of their 9 picks made the cut.
I don't find it odd that a topic on general football boards parrots what ESPN reports.
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| 82 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 00:24
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Every single draft pick by the Colts made the team. After winning the Super Bowl and starting off as impressive as they were opening night, Polian must have done it again.
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| 83 | Slizz
ID: 398161117
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 08:19
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Perception TB, Perception.
It just looks like a mess no matter how you cut it. The fact that people even took the "Administrative Error" seriously just shows how bad of a reputation the Raiders' brass has.
I dont even use ESPN just FYI. www.profootballtalk.com, NFLN (Schefter), & sportsline is all I need. ESPN is constantly off the mark and they care more about breaking the story then accuracy. I.E. Vick Verdict, Brandon Jackson's status (NFL Live said he was out week 1 @ 12am EST (per Ref), however the associated press, Green Bay Post-Gazette and JS Online confirmed he was in the lineup on week 1. Also they said Eli Manning was out 1-2 months...I mean c'mon the "worldwide leader" is a joke. How can you honestly take them seriously when they have a 10 year old contributing as an analyst.
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| 84 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 10:48
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ESPN also had Daunte as the starter a couple days before the Jackson misinformation. And their probables on their web page have been inaccurate quite a few times this summer.
Still, they do get a lot of scoops that are accurate. As a whole I think they do a nice job.
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| 85 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 11:51
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Thanks for also pointing that out too Ref! Another thing, you cant believe a word you read from that hack Len "Don Vito" Pasquarelli.
www.profootballtalk.com/lencut.mp3
all except for the one Arizona cut this year
*laughs* Arizona has won only ONE playoff game since the Truman administration...thats a great team to compare them too!
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| 86 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:13
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Your Daily David Boston Update:
BOSTON DONE IN TAMPA by Michael David Smith
Wide receiver David Boston is now a former Tampa Bay Buccaneer.
The team announced today that it has reached an injury settlement and released Boston, and that wide receiver Mark Jones, who played in Tampa Bay the last two years, has been re-signed to take Boston's spot on the 53-man roster.
The move comes two days after it was reported that Boston tested positive for GHB after he was arrested for DUI on August 23.
Although the Bucs initially said they stood by Boston, that was before the results of Boston's urinalysis came back. Given Boston's previous off-field problems, and given how long it's been since he did anything of note on the field, it's very hard to imagine any other team picking him up. That means it's probably the end of the NFL career for a guy who in 2001 led the league in receiving yards at age 23 and looked like he had the potential to become the best receiver in the league.
Thats two first round picks in the G24 Supplemental in consecutive days done for the year for fantasy purposes!
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| 87 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 21:17
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When you say *laughs*, I don't know if that means you are getting a chuckle out of the discussion or laughing at me. If you are trying to mock me not only don't I get it, but there isn't a reason to have a serious discussion with you from this point forward. I will post my reply in case I am just reading it wrong, but would appreciate if you could clear that up for me.
Let me back up to say that I agree that you are looking for a starter in the third and at least hoping for a contributor. I envisioned adding another Kirk Morrison type impact player in the third this year when we got Moses. It didn't happen. Nobody was dissing the pick when they made it, quite the opposite, but he wasn't good enough to make the team. Some teams are lucky and get an immediate starter, others get a role player, and others gamble and lose. As long as we have an example like Brady getting drafted in the 6th round (or the many impact undrafted players and late round picks) we will always know that even with the best research, drafting can be a bit of a crapshoot.
- Of course, if the Patriots have been stealing defensive signals and been able to get them into Brady, no wonder he's so clutch in the 2nd half, but that's another discussion.
With that said, I did take a look at the last two drafts. There are a handful of solid starters, but most are either back-up or role players. There are a few people where the teams gambled and lost. I'm guessing that if I went back to 2004 and 2003, there would be a lot more names added to the "not on an NFL team" list. This list is third round picks from 2005 and 2006 who are no longer with the club who drafted them. Most were cut, with two traded.
Anthony Schlegel LB, Jets
Jon Alston LB, Rams
Rashad Butler T, Panthers
Courtney Roby WR, Titans
Dustin Fox DB, Vikings
David Greene QB, Seattle Seahawks
Atiyyah Ellison DT, Panthers
Jordan Beck LB, Falcons
Chris Colmer T, Buccaneers
Vincent Burns DE, Colts
Maurice Clarett RB, Broncos
Two traded players:
Charlie Frye QB, Browns (traded for a 6th)
Vernand Morency RB, Texans (swapped to Gado)
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| 88 | Slizz
ID: 28801218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 00:04
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TB, I respect your opinion and obviously see you bleed silver and black like I bleed orange & blue...however, I just felt it necessary to make it a point that you were citing the Cardinals as the only other team in defense of your beloved Raiders. I apologize if you took offense to it b/c I did not intend for the post to be contentious whatsoever.
As for the players you listed, besides Mo Clo, how many of those players were cut before the season even began??? Shanahan looked like a dipshit for drafting him so early and then cutting him shortly thereafter.
As for my opinion, you can take it or leave it. I definitely respect the fact that you put in what looks to be about an hour of research to point that out to me. I would take my time to look at each and every one of those players and see for myself who made the opening day roster and got cut...but I am headed to bed :)
However, my original point and opinion remains unchanged: The Raiders become the butt of everyones NFL jokes for the way they handled the 2007 draft. Goodnight! (sooooo not proofreading!)
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| 89 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 01:25
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Thanks for clearing that up. I absolutely dig that we have another active poster in the league (even if you are a bit brainwashed by PFT...j/k) and will enjoy talking football with you.
Yes, I bleed Silver and Black, but with the product we've put on the field the last four years the skin is pretty thick. I would say that almost all of those players made the team their first year minus Clarett. Maybe Denver was dogged a little, but eventually everyone saw that Denver took a gamble, realized Mo was junk, and cut bait. There are nine other teams listed who either didn't have a better player to keep on their roster, were unable to judge that their player wasn't going to cut it, or maybe who were afraid to admit they made a mistake. I can look through a lot of teams rosters and find undrafted players and 5th-7th round players starting where earlier round picks are no longer in the NFL. Just the list of first round QB's alone who were junk over the last 15 or so years is impressive. I know we had a discussion about the 1999 first round draft a while back and that was either nice hit or big miss for most teams.
Russell is signed. He missed 48 total days. He was there for all the mini-camps, but did miss training camp and preseason. Even if he was there the entire time I still think his main function this season would be clip-board carrier. Very few rookie QB's have ever been baptised in fire with success. Manning and Bledsoe are the only two that come to mind right away and I think we would agree that Russell isn't near as NFL ready as either of those guys were.
I don't have the inclination to review every teams draft and see who they kept, but the Raiders have:
Russell (1) on clipboard duty
Miller (2) starting TE
Henderson (3B) OL depth
Higgins (3C) WR depth and starting KR
Bush (4A) future star RB on PUP
Bowie (4B) CB depth
Richardson (5A) DL depth and one of the reasons we could let Moses go
O'Neal (6) FB depth (will be a solid player)
Holland (7) on IR.
Cut - Moses (3A) and Frampton (5B)
Even if Bowie and Holland never amount to much and with the disappointment that Moses turned out to be, I still think the Raiders helped themselves a lot in this draft.
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| 90 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 10:17
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rotoworld
It can often be a sign of a bad organization when a plan fails, but a sign of an even worse organization is when a plan is abandoned so quickly that it didn't even have a chance to fail. Judging from their quarterback situation, the Browns qualify as the latter. Charlie Frye entered training camp atop the depth chart and was named the starter on August 31. Ten passes later and Frye's not only no longer the starter in Cleveland, he's in Seattle following Tuesday's trade.
A third-round pick in 2005, the Browns dealt Frye to the Seahawks for sixth rounder and will apparently turn the starting job over to Derek Anderson. Given all the decisions and preparation that go into getting an NFL team ready for the upcoming season, it's astonishing that someone could be named a starter and then completely fall out of the team's favor within the span of two weeks, all while throwing six incomplete passes.
If the Browns wanted to truly give Frye another legitimate chance with the job, then he obviously needed more than a 10-pass opportunity to do so. And if they didn't really have much interest in giving him that chance, then why bother naming him the starter (or keep him on the roster) to begin with? The move to Seattle is a great opportunity for Frye, who now becomes the potential long-term successor to Matt Hasselbeck in a quarterback-friendly situation.
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| 91 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 10:26
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Same thing can be said for Leftwich. First off I didn't understand why he was even named the starter to begin with, other than money, and then why he was unceremoniously dumped before the season even started.
In the case of Frye I think it was obvious they didn't think Frye would be a good mentor for Quinn and they also didn't want any obstacles to naming Quinn the starter in a few weeks or whenever. I've even read now that if Anderson struggles Quinn might go in this week in relief.
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| 92 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 10:49
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Surprised a team like Atlanta or even the Dolphins haven't given Leftwich a shot yet.
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| 93 | Perm Dude
ID: 35848138
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 10:53
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Or the Browns, for that matter.
The fact that they yanked Frye so early reflects their indecisiveness about the whole thing, which is just a stupid way to treat your QBs. In the end, it hurts Quinn as well. Is he going to be looking over his shoulder when he finally gets the nod, knowing that the Browns have no idea of how to treat their QBs professionally?
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| 94 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 11:30
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I think the Browns view Quinn as their QB, but he's just not ready. If he hadn't held out then perhaps he gets the Manning treatment and thrown in there to learn under fire. Now it's jsut a matter of who will start until the think Quinn is ready.
I think Russell would have been in the same boat. If he signed on time, he would have been the QB from the start--even though I agree with TB that he was less ready than Manning or Bledsoe coming out of college. Holding out can be a career-ender. The difference of a little bit of money can easily be made up through on-field incentives or off-fielf marketing--esp. if you do well. Maybe the Raiders weren't being fair--none of us outside of those discussions really know.
The Leftwich situation was an absolute fiasco as well. The Ravens even signed Boller to an extension rather than sign him. That speaks volumes as Boller had been given a chance to start and failed miserably. Maybe he can show someothing while McNair is out. It's obvious that it would have taken some time for Leftwich to learn any system he would go into so he better get signed quickly if he wants to have any chance of even getting on the field this year.
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| 95 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 13:19
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Remember, Hasselbeck (a favorite of mine...so their might be some bias in this) was a backup in Green Bay and a late round pick under Holmgren while he was with the Packers. Under Holmgren's tutledge Hasselbeck became one of the NFL's premier game managers. He might never wow you with insane stats like Manning or Palmer, but he is almost always going to give you a +1 TD/INT game with 200 yards in the air. To me, I wish Rex Grossman would even come close to doing that...if so, we'd be super bowl champs!
Frye, was an early 3rd round pick and Senior Bowl MVP. Just b/c Frye earned that honor doesnt guarantee him success in the NFL...but at least he got a chance to showcase his talent to NFL brass and thus was rewarded by being selected high in the 3rd round. I am not ready to write off Charlie Frye as a NFL QB just yet. He turned around a putrid Akron team in college, and was dealt a crappy hand in Cleveland. I dont even think Peyton Manning would've succeeded at a pro bowl level on the Browns.
However, the Browns did what they could in light of the situation. They have Brady Quinn and no need to carry him anymore and at least got some return on their investment in Frye.
I am not completely sold on JaMarcus. They broke down his game film and all in all, I worry about his ability to read NFL coverages. EX: vs. Auburn last year, he took forever to finally read that they were playing a soft cover 2 in the wee minutes of the 4th, and after buying enough time with his superior talent, he tried to fit the ball into the coverage and was helped out by his WR's. He wont have that luxury in the NFL. He benefitted tremendously from the talent surrounding him on LSU which literally consisted of jump balls to dwayne bowe, bombs to craig davis, attacking alley broussard, & the top WR in the 2008 draft - early doucett. I could be wrong, but things like that just stand out to me.
TB/Ref: I think the Raiders had no intention of playing him his rookie season anyways, so to resist fan pressure later on in the season to play him was to force him into a long & lengthy holdout. Either way you cut it, its a PR mess which leads plenty of people to say "only in Oakland".
As for Leftwich, you were the only person up on that too Ref...thats why I was very surprised when you passed on Garrard in the Supplemental. You sent me the link to the FLA Sun Sentinel saying how they're contemplating cutting Leftwich to avoid his salary for 07. I think just his general demeanor and fitness regimen really hurt him. He constantly overthrew passes, was totally immobile, and his delivery took forever. There werent alot of positives about Fat Albert Leftwich.
TB - PFT is like football crack. He almost always breaks stories before anyone else and doesnt have to censor what he says which makes it a daily must read I recommend to everyone else.
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| 96 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 13:51
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Ref probably went Croyle thinking, go with the younger guy as he had more long term potential and he knew was guaranteed to start at some point as they see him as "the future". Garrard seems ok to me, but I don't see him developing into (conservatively) a Top 15 QB.
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| 97 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 16:18
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Well, Ref will have the QB of the future in KC assuming they dont draft Brian Brohm. If you think I'm crazy to think they'd draft a QB in the 1st, see the Miami Dolphins: 2nd rounder for AJ Feely, 3rd or 4th for Daunte, Conditional 5th for Trent Green, Conditional 6th for Joey Heisman.
If anything, KC needs offensive line depth more then anything. However, I think they will finish dead last and possibly have a top 3 pick.
Also, love how I shot myself in the foot for Napoleon Harris! Gotta love screwing myself in waivers! lol.
So...who do you guys think will be the "sleeper" fantasy play. Obviously my Visanthe Shiancoe "pick 2 click" went over pretty well! My week 2 pick guaranteed to go wrong - JAMAL LEWIS.
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| 98 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 16:33
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Cleveland has always found a way to stop Jamal Lewis. Looks like they still have!!!
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| 99 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 16:33
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I drafted Croyle as he was the last starting QB left. Right after I drafted him, Huard was named starter. Then when I got to Garrard (I had planned to take him regardless) I thought how can I afford to have two backups on my team? I still have to trade for a starting QB. So then I'd hve three QBs. I was thinking that I needed to find a player who had huge upside and could be kept. I was hoping Garrard would make it another roung where I'd have to take him regardless of how many QBs I had. Right after I took Demetrius Williams, I read that article I sent to Slizz. If I had read that article first, I'd have grabbed Garrard. I just felt that a backup QB had a better chance to fall then a guy who was expected to "blow up huge" this year.
The next day, that same newspaper said that Leftwich would in fact be starting. So was shocked again when they cut him so late.
I also have to give Doug some credit. I was chatting with him and had like 13 guys on my list but only like 4 I was really considering. He asked me if I was looking at Williams. I said he's on my list but not really a finalist. So I go back and look at him again and found some articles on different sites. There were two articles that were posted on him that day or the day before that I hadn't read and it was glowing. He had the upside. The explosiveness. The height. The end zone targets. The speed--if only McNair can get the ball downfield. With him, Bowe, Plax and Berrian, I may have four very strong WRs for now and the future. Problems is that youc an only start three and you still ned a QB. Hopefully Croyle can be that guy. Not sold on him at this point though.
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| 100 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 16:45
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Pretty interesting first week, for my team anyway. Was losing to the Cowboys, a divisional rival, by about 10 pts heading into Monday's games with only my DB Madieu Williams to play. Also had about a 20pt lead over the Vikings but they still had Palmer and CJ left to play. Madieu Williams came up big with 12 points and I was able to snatch victory from defeat in both games!
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| 101 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 16:49
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Yeah, thanks a lot Doug. I was hoping Demetrius was going to fly under the radar and get back to me, but with my 2nd pick in the 4th round that was a longshot anyway. Jarrett should catch just as few passes as D. Williams anyway, so I should still be just as well off ;)
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| 102 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 17:17
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Heh ;)
I'm working on the overall franchise standings. Obviously with the 4 IDPs added to our teams, suddenly hitting 100 pts in a game isn't as tough. May up it to 120 or so on their. Same for the record books. That page is going to take a major overhaul. Considering an overall and 02-06 and 07 and on as far as separate records. Even with our added players no one hit the top 5 of our old records. I think I will post them in the football standings forum so those of you who want to see them can and it won't mess up our thread with the very wide table.
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| 103 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 17:42
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I'm trying to figure out if there can be a quick way to update the H2H records as shown on Sheet 3 here. Wondering if there is a simple program where it can take the overall standings from Sheet 1 as I manually enter them and sort them and then could I simply enter aa H2H win or loss and then it update that sheet? Everything on there was done manually and that was enough of a task at the end of the year let alone trying to keep up with it.
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| 104 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 18:29
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The orange background is'nt too flattering so will post it as a reply in the future but here is the franchise standings after the first week.
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| 105 | Perm Dude
ID: 40851312
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 18:29
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Interesting. Wonder how the PF will change with the IDPs added this year.
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| 106 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 19:02
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I have the averages at the bottom of each year. Looks like I messed up some of the prettiness, but I'll fix that. Anyhow, through the first week we are averaging 96.44. Last year our average was 68.735 and overall our average PF is 69.5821. So we're about 27+ points higher thus far.
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| 107 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 12:45
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The league record book has been posted in the same thread as the franchise standings as linked in 104. (Big File)
I kept all the records through last year. Then made an overall record book from them. From there I deleted every old record that wouldn't be affected by the IDP and DHs. Then I added a section for 2007 records (mainly least points scored, etc.) at the end of the 02-06 records.
There are many records at the bottom which involve like overall winning pct, etc which have not been updated this week nor will be updated every week for obvious reasons. The H2H records against every other opponent might not be updated until the end of the season if I can't figure out an easier way to do it.
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| 108 | THK
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Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 21:26
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180 points. Get off me. :-)
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| 109 | Perm Dude
ID: 59831168
Sun, Sep 16, 2007, 22:02
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How about dem Brownies! Toss the dice with Anderson ("Worst Haircut in the NFL") and he gets a career game.
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| 110 | Toral
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Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 10:31
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Hey, Braylon Edwards, Adalius Thomas -- practice optional this week. Sorry that everybody else sucked. In fact, you two get the week off to go to Las Vegas -- rest of team on two-a-days.
Toral
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| 111 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Mon, Sep 17, 2007, 13:06
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What a week for me to be playing against Browns' offensive players. PD had Anderson and BJ21 had Lewis. Yikes.
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| 112 | Perm Dude
ID: 10845189
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 10:47
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Stupid McNabb, not throwing that INT when I was yelling at him to.
One for the record books, anyway, assuming no defensive stats that change Fletcher's total.
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| 113 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 11:01
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PD, Do you mean Point Differential? YOu lost by .68 and the top 5 range from like .02-.08. Still tough loss! I checked Pete's team to see if I could find an extra -7 yds gained anywhere, but none to be found for you. I'll go through the rest of the teams to adjust for those soon.
If I could figure out which players to start, I'd be a whole lot better. Sadly to say, my low score of the week is closer to normal than my record highest score ever to still take a loss (and 3rd highest score for the week). Still, I would be 3-1 if I had managed to start the right combinations. Nothing I could have done about mbj this week!!!
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| 114 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 18, 2007, 18:32
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